The Mueller Investigation - What If There Was No Collusion No Obstruction?

Updated on May 4, 2018
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The Mueller Investigation Bears No Russian Fruit

The Mueller investigation on Russian interference in America's election at some point will be over. Hopefully, this lengthy and methodical investigation will produce good proof of what may have occurred or what did not occur in America's 2016 presidential election. So far after a year of digging, there is nothing to show that the Trump campaign broke any campaign laws. This is not to say that the something could be uncovered in the near future. However, the investigation has uncovered that there were several people who worked on President Trump's campaign that did break the law. These findings resulted in an indictment for crimes unrelated to the campaign. It's clear to some that Mueller went far adrift from what he was hired to do, and strayed from the mandate of the investigation. However, if one reads the one-page document, he was given permission to stray...

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The Mueller Russian Investigation Mandate Was Well Docuented

On May 17th, 2017 deputy attorney general, Rod J.Rosenstein, appointed former F.B.I. Director Robert S. Mueller III as the special counsel to head up, and oversee the investigation into Russian tampering in the 2016 presidential elections. The mandate for the Russian interference in our election was clearly worded in a one-page document.

So far Mueller has indited 19 people. it's apparent he strayed from the path a bit and has charged three American citizens that worked or were associated with the Trump campaign. He also indited 13 Russian nationals, and three known Russian groups with violating criminal laws with the intent of meddling "with U.S. elections and political processes".

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The First Indictments - Paul Manafort and Rick Gates

The special counsel’s office has brought forth their first indictment in the Russian probe investigation. After nine months of investigation, Robert Mueller has obtained two indictment from a federal grand jury. Paul Manafort Trump's former campaign manager along with his business associate Rick Gates was indicted on 12 counts in connection with Robert Mueller's probe into Russia's meddling in the 2016 U.S. election. The charges date back to 2006 which include conspiracy against the United States, conspiracy to launder money, an unregistered agent of a foreign principal, false and misleading Foreign Agent Registration (FARA) statements, false statements and seven counts of failure to file reports of foreign banks and financial accounts. The case was looked at in 2006 and dropped. "Manafort has since pleaded" not guilty to all charges.

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Soon To Follow The Flynn Indictment

The fact is there have been two indictments out of the Mueller investigation. Michael Flynn, President Trump's former national security adviser was indicted on one count of making false statements to the FBI.

According to court documents, Michael Flynn was charged with one count of "willfully and knowingly" making false statements to the FBI. Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his talks with a Russian ambassador. Flynn resigned as Trump’s national security adviser in February 2017 over revelations that he lied to Vice President Mike Pence on his communications with Russia’s ambassador to the U.S., Sergey Kislyak. The subject of the conversation is unknown except for unsecured leaks. I deal in fact, so find it distasteful to quote rumor. I would assume at some point the continence of the conversation that Flynn had with Kislyak will become public. Flynn accepted a plea deal and has agreed to cooperate with the FBI. Many are speculating that Flynn has information that will lead to proving that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to influence the 2016 election. This is speculation.

So Far There Is Nothing That Shows Any Collusion Or Obstruction .... Now What?

The evidence thus far shows no collision or obstruction of justice. The evidence bears no Russian fruit. Yes, there have been two indictments. However, neither is relevant to the Russian Meddling in our election. Yes, there are many theories as well as unsubstantiated faceless leaks trying to connect the dots. But, facts will ultimately be the deciding factor that will prove if Russia sought to work with the Trump campaign to skew our 2016 election. All the speculation will fly out the window with the truth. The truth could substantiate that there was collusion. It might also prove there was none.

Summing It All Up

At no time in history has the country been so divided politically. There is a clear line in the sand, a left, and a right. The Russian investigation has deepened the divide and elicited conspiracy hysteria like no other problem America has faced.

So, what will occur when it's all over? After Mueller gives his findings, and we have a clear picture of what occurred? When it's time to move on, and a clear winner has been assigned by Mueller's final findings. We can all be assured there will, in the end, be a winner. With all the Bragging rights that comes with being a winner. Will the divide be mended or will it become deeper? Will one side be it right or left come to the realization that it is time to stop the battle of words? At least on this subject.

13 Russian nationals indited for interference in 2016 Presidential election. No American's were involved.

13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities have been indicted for alleged interference in the 2016 presidential election. The defendants allegedly conducted information warfare against the United States election process allegedly to help Donald Trump win the presidential election.The defendants used fake American personas, social media platforms, and other Internet media to advance their scheme, according to an indictment.

Deputy AG Rosenstein stated at a news conference on February 16, 2018, that there is no allegation in the indictment that any American was a knowing involved or participated in the Russian scheme — nor was there any allegation that the scheme affected the outcome of the election. When will all of this end?

Update Friday May 4, 2018, Federal Judge Steps In With Scathing Rebuke...

May 4, 2018, - Manafort appeared in court Friday to seek the dismissal of the charges outlined in the Virginia indictment. A federal judge U.S. District Court Judge T.S. Ellis sharply challenged special counsel Robert Mueller's and his prosecution team. He questioned how its indictment of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort on financial charges relates to Mueller's mandate to investigate alleged 2016 Russian election interference.

Judge T.S. Ellis stating that the Mueller's team seemed to be pursuing the case which involves bank and tax fraud to "tighten the screws" on Manafort. Perhaps in the hope that he will flip and testify against others including President Donald Trump.

U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis III in the Eastern District of Virginia said. “I don’t see what relationship this indictment has with anything the special counsel is authorized to investigate,”

At a tense hearing at the federal courthouse in Alexandria, Virginia judge Ellis said "Mueller should not have “unfettered power” in his Russia probe and that the charges against Manafort did not arise from the investigation into Moscow’s alleged meddling in the 2016 U.S. election."

Judge Ellis proceeded to give the attorneys from the Mueller investigation a tongue lashing. "It’s unlikely you’re going to persuade me the special counsel has unfettered power to do whatever he wants”. I don't see what relation this indictment has with what the special counsel is authorized to investigate," Ellis said to prosecutors. "You don't really care about Mr. Manafort's bank fraud. ... What you really care about is what information Mr. Manafort could give you that would reflect on Mr. Trump or lead to his prosecution or impeachment." Judge Ellis did not immediately rule on Manafort's motion to dismiss the Virginia indictment. A trial date in the case is set for July 10., and Ellis has issued an order to see several documents in regards to the Mandate issued for the Mueller investigation.

It appears this ongoing investigation is being to be scrutinized by Ellis. Hopefully, it will be over soon... It'givesng the appearance of a "witch hunt".

When All The Dust Has Settled

What if "there is no there there"? Will you be willing to accept the Mueller findings?

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It's Not The Outcome You Wanted. Mueller report concluded there was collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

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    • Sharlee01 profile image
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      Sharon Stajda 6 weeks ago from Shelby Township Michigan

      Update Friday, May 4, 2018, Federal Judge Steps In With Scathing Rebuke...

      May 4, 2018, - A federal judge U.S. District Court Judge T.S. Ellis sharply challenged special counsel Robert Mueller's and his prosecution team. He questioned how its indictment of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort on financial charges relates to Mueller's mandate to investigate alleged 2016 Russian election interference.

      Judge T.S. Ellis stating that the Mueller's team seemed to be pursuing the case which involves bank and tax fraud to "tighten the screws" on Manafort. Perhaps in the hope that he will flip and testify against others including President Donald Trump.

      “I don’t see what relationship this indictment has with anything the special counsel is authorized to investigate,” U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis III in the Eastern District of Virginia said.

      At a tense hearing at the federal courthouse in Alexandria, Virginia judge Ellis said "Mueller should not have “unfettered power” in his Russia probe and that the charges against Manafort did not arise from the investigation into Moscow’s alleged meddling in the 2016 U.S. election."

      “It’s unlikely you’re going to persuade me the special counsel has unfettered power to do whatever he wants”.

      It appears this ongoing investigation is being to be scrutinized by the judicial branch. Hopefully, it will be over soon... It is giving the appearance of a "witch hun

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      bradmasterOCcal 4 months ago from Orange County California

      Sharon

      If there really was a Russian Trump Collusion to influence the election, then Hillary wouldn't have needed the other 34 excuses that she has used why she lost the race.

      She also blamed Jim Comey.

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      bradmasterOCcal 4 months ago from Orange County California

      Sharon

      That is my response.

      The whole Russian Trump collusion was the Hillary and DNC Big Bang Theory.

      They created it with their allegations that the DNC servers were hacked by the Russians, yet no one single government agency has ever been on the servers to verify it.

      Anything, past that unverified claim is bogus.

      If you want to play with an investigation that wouldn't have existed but for the DNC allegation then sorry I commented here.

      Tell me, I am wrong about the genesis of these investigations. I have a multiple part article on all of the excuses the Hillary Clinton used and the DNC hack is only one of them.

      If you live in this country, then you had better hope that Trump is not on the losing side.

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      Leland Johnson 4 months ago from Midland MI

      Thanks for this thought provoking hub. I remember that 6 days prior to the general election Trump publicly stated that the country needed to be on guard for election tampering. I remember President Obama scoffing at Trump's statement saying he was "whining and needed to get out and do more campaigning and less complaining." I think that if there were evidence of collusion it would've been found. I also think that if any investigation committee looks long enough they will eventually "find" evidence for something or anything.

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      Sharon Stajda 5 months ago from Shelby Township Michigan

      bradmasterOCcal - I wrote this article to elicit a response. Asking the question. "What if there was no collusion or obstruction? I had hoped that the question would get people thinking about the fact there will be an end to the Mueller investigation. A final report, did Russia interfere with the election, and did anyone on the Trump campaign break the law in regard to the election. It's clear there has been two indictments, both unrelated to the outcome of the election. I pointed out Mueller's mandate, the simple fact that it was well defined to investigating certain accepts of the campaign. The country is very divided. Some feeling that the Trump campaign worked with Russians,. The other half feeling the investigation is a "witch hunt." Let's face it there will be a losing side. I am very curious on how the losing side will react. Note that not many have taken my polls. I guess it clearly answers my question. It appears the divide will deepen, it appears some will continue to signor the truth.

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      bradmasterOCcal 5 months ago from Orange County California

      Sharon

      I will say that the investigations that have produced zero evidence after a year, and now lead by Mueller who has many conflicts of interest should have been closed a long time ago.

      In fact, I have stated that the Hillary Clinton and democrats created their BBT (big bang theory) on the basis of the bogus Russian Dossier. Hillary Clinton and the DNC paid $12 million for this Trump opposition paper.

      The senator McCain brings it to the FBI who then get FISA warrants to spy on Trump and his team.

      How can you not blame the FBI when they didn't even verify the document but used it to spy on Trump.

      To answer your article. Even if there was no problem and no investigation. The left would keep resisting Trump.

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      Sharon Stajda 5 months ago from Shelby Township Michigan

      My article asks the question. What will we do when it's all over?" First, you have a right to your opinion. However, it appears you did not read my article. I expressed facts only. I did not embellish or show bias. I don't in any fashion predict an outcome to the Mueller investigation. It's clear that no one as of yet has privileged to any facts other than the two indictments that have been handed down. Both the Manafort , and the Flynn indictments are not connected connected to President Trump. Manafort has been charged with money laundering and tax crimes. Flynn charged with lying to the FBI. No more no less. " Then you wonder why an investigation is going on." I in no respect questioned the need for the investigation. I have no way of knowing if the situation will get "uglier" , and in no respect insulted the FBI in my article. Not sure why you find it your place to insult me? I am not a "dreamer" I am a realist, and as I stated in my article - I will wait until Mueller gives his final report. I will not predict or argue the outcome. I find it a waste of time and energy. I ask you, what will be your reaction when it' all over? Please take my polls.

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      Sanxuary 5 months ago

      You our dreaming, why would you commit obstruction of Justice for nothing. Why are numerous people indicted. Why did these people lie countless times? Then you wonder why an investigation is going on. Why are they trying so hard to stop this from continuing? The truth is already ugly and it will get even worst. The FBI is loyal to one thing at the end of the day and that loyalty is to the FBI. Keep dreaming.

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