Infowars’ Alex Jones Meltdown Continues, as He Gets Slammed by Jesse Ventura for Trump Support
Note: This article references an interview that Alex Jones conducted with Jesse Ventura on his infowars' show on November 17th 2016. Should you wish, you can listen to the whole show here, however, I have listened to the show and pulled out the best pearls in order that you don't have to pollute your browser.
The on-screen meltdown of infowars’ Alex Jones continued this weekend, in some of the most revealing broadcasts the public has ever seen regarding his support for the Trump presidency bid and its aftermath.
In a broadcast full of insanity, Jones’ gave the game away about how deep his Christian beliefs really run (he’s deep enough to be shallow,) how ethical his support for Trump is, and far, far more. Jones started his interview with Jesse Ventura by asking him if he agreed with Dave Chappelle that people should now give Trump a chance. Ventura agreed straight off the bat and why would you not, after all, who doesn’t want Trump to be a successful president of the most powerful country in the world?
The problem is how Trump and his White House may define success.
After the initial agreement that he wished Trump well in his presidency, Ventura got to the meat and bones of the matter by telling Jones,
(JV) “The problem is he’s (Trump) all over the board. You know, he says one thing one day and then the opposite two weeks later and that’s what makes you not know where exactly is he, but certainly he deserves a step back, he’s our new president. What I’m more concerned about Alex, do you want the truth….?”
(JV) “And this has nothing to do with Democrat or Republican but this is two times now in sixteen years that the person who has gotten the most votes doesn’t win.”
(AJ) “Sure, electoral college.”
(JV) “I don’t like the electoral college, because this is twice now in sixteen years where the person who got the most votes loses, no other election in America can you get the most votes and lose except at president now. So it doesn’t matter that the Republicans have prevailed twice on that and the Democrats have failed twice on that, it’s a corrupt system that has to be changed. Who’s going to have the guts to do it?”
The reason that this is such an important exchange is that Jones spent the whole presidential campaign telling his viewers and listeners that the vote was rigged and the system was corrupt. Can you imagine what Jones may have been telling his audience if Trump had won the popular vote but lost the election?
Remember, Trump and Jones had both said they would not take a winning vote for Hilary at face value and in the case of Jones he had built his audience into a near frenzy and they were threatening a revolution should Trump not prevail. Jones may indeed refute that is the case but unfortunately for him, the evidence that has polluted most of our facebook and social media feeds over the last eighteen months tells a different story. We all saw it. Don’t take this as a pro-Clinton rant. The Democrats really only have themselves to blame after forcefully thwarting the Sanders campaign, thereby losing their chance to challenge Trump with a more popular candidate.
The authenticity of the deluge of Trump posts swamping social media has also been called into question, with much of it now believed to be part of a “sh*t-posting” campaign organised by Oculus founder, Palmer Luckey. You can read more about that campaign here—and conspiracy fans, take note of the eye on Luckey’s t-shirt. Sure looks like it could be subliminal signaling, being right in plain view and all that. Above the surface of consciousness subliminal virtue signaling, by the New World Order you thought you were vanquishing by voting Trump...
C’mon, do you think that an all pervading, far reaching conspiracy with unlimited power, whose leaders were communicating with aliens and were ready to blast off to alpha centurai to live in off world colonies, could really have lost the election?
Now, back to the clash between Jones and Ventura and it looks like Ventura is going to be the first to land a heavy blow….
(AJ) “Well, I mean to be fair, if he had of won the popular and Hilary would have won the electoral I would have been saying damn this electoral thing but I mean Hilary was so bad it was a true case……”
Ventura jumps in on Alex Jones weak defence and body slams him…..
(JV) “That’s not the point Alex, you don’t go by the law when it’s convenient and when the law’s wrong, as in the case of the electoral college it’s wrong, get rid of it!”
(AJ) “ Sure, to be clear though, just to add that, I was being devils’ advocate there, to be clear, I personally like the electoral college because it doesn’t let another state dominate it and it keeps the electioneering in control, in compartmentalized pieces and makes election fraud harder. Bev Harris, the top…..”
Yup, you read that right folks. The guy who spent the whole election campaign saying the system was rigged and voter fraud was going to be rife now says that he likes the Electoral College system because it makes election fraud more difficult. Jones pathetic defence is showing and Ventura is about to crush him again….
(JV) “That’s the biggest baloney. Ok, why don’t we do it that way for other elections?”
(AJ) “Ok, well we had Bev Harris…..”
(JV) “How come president is the only election where the people don’t pick’ ‘em? See, that’s the fix, the people don’t pick the president, delegates do.”
(AJ) “Well, we already tried with the super-delegates to block that.”
(AJ) “Let me just get this out though, you know Bev Harris, she’s very respected, they’ve even done a TV show about her but the point is (inaudible) she’s a liberal democrat, she said clearly, that Hilary probably stole five states that night and there was massive fixing against Trump and so she’s discovered the latest…..”
Ventura jumps in again, sensing he’s got Jones on the ropes…..
(JV) “You know Alex, I don’t buy into that because I was a governor and we did vast studies when I was a governor which showed if voter fraud happens, it will happen at the electronic voting machine.”
(AJ) “I agree election fraud.”
(JV) “Which need to be gotten rid of, some things don’t improve with time.”
(AJ) “I agree.”
(JV) “In Minnesota, we still fill in the dots so you can count every vote done and so if there is fraud it comes at the electronic voting machine, it’s like in Ohio in the Bush election, there’s a great deal of question marks about all of that, about why the ballots got sent to Tennessee first.”
(AJ)”Bev Harris proved that the 2000 election was clearly stolen, there was fraud in 2004 as well against the Democrats, I agree with that, I was not a fan of either the Democrats or Republicans then, I’ve supported Trump because the elite were so against him and I see that as a better shot of getting our” (interrupted)
(JV) “Great, here’s my problem, look at the people he is……now I hope the media is wrong again, because the people they are talking about putting in positions of power, that ain’t draining the swamp, that’s putting the pollution right back in there.”
Ventura had kid gloved Jones into a false sense of security for a few moments but now he’s gone for the kill and called him out on his sham support for Trump. Ventura has seen Jones for exactly what he is and Jones has nowhere to go.
(AJ) “No, I knew this is where we’d agree today, if he puts John Bolton in, er, that is a very dangerous warmongering.”
(JV) “Not only that, Newt Gingrich? Come on….I mean this guy was in office twelve years before I ran.”
(AJ) “Well, here’s the argument, and I’m not, all I care about is what Trump actually does and that’s where the river meets the road, I will go after him.”
With regard to Alex Jones claiming that he will go after Trump, it should be noted that as the appointments to the Trump White House have been being announced, there has been a paucity of comment by Jones about the fact that, as Ventura says, that it appears that Trump is not only re-populating the Washington swamp, but also making it far, far murkier.
And what about Roger Stone and Trump’s greatest wheeze, telling Alex Jones and his followers that he would ‘lock her up?’
Jones is still trying to sugar coat the Trump team picks but the strain is beginning to show and at one point earlier in the show, he started telling his audience that he was thinking, just thinking mind, of shutting the whole Infowars operation down maybe for good, or maybe for six months. Could it be that Alex Jones is already contemplating the vitriol that will come his way from his erstwhile supporters, who, if you read the infowars comments section below his articles, most of whom seem to claim are heavily armed and ready to use their weapons if anyone crosses them, when they realize they have been sold down the river by Jones in supporting Trump?
Perhaps Jones is getting ready to run for the hills and use one of the year’s supply of survivalist foods that he is normally so keen to foist on his audience and hunker down, hidden out of sight from the army of heavily armed freedom loving libertarians that he has so carefully cultivated in sham support for Trump, that will no doubt soon have Jones in their sights.
But no, of course, it’s not heavily armed libertarians that Jones thinks might now be after him, but gun-toting liberals instead as Jones suggests in this rather creepy and ridiculous video. I mean, I know it’s Texas and it is the sort of place where a game of free poker can end in an armed stand-off in a parking lot but gun toting liberals hunting you down? How far in denial can you possibly be about the forces you have set in motion?
You know it’s going to be your disillusioned audience that are going to hold you to account in the end, not the sky fairy you profess to believe in, or imaginary gun toting liberals….
Let’s fast forward now, further on through the Ventura interview and hear Alex Jones get slammed by Ventura so hard, that his ramblings become more or less completely incoherent…
Jones has been speaking with Ventura about immigration and ‘building a wall….’
(JV) “The other problem is when he builds the wall, I’m going to protest it and go over the other way and stay in my home in Mexico.”
(AJ) “No, I mean, I understand.”
(JV) “No, because Ronald Reagan was the icon of the Republican Party, they all hold him up and, you know, his famous quote ‘Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall,’ this is just me personally Alex, I don’t want to live in East Berlin.”
(AV) “Well, let’s be clear, East Berlin was communist on one side and Western Germany on the other.”
No Alex, East Berlin was East Berlin and West Germany was West Germany, you’re starting to sound a little punch drunk….
(AV) “And they were shooting people trying to leave and I agree with Ron Paul when he said, six years ago when he said, we don’t want a wall because it will be there to keep us from getting out of the country.”
Did you really just say that Alex? You’ve just spent the last eighteen months supporting someone who says they are going to build a wall, a big beautiful wall, which was the main focus of his campaign other than putting Hillary in prison. And now you are telling your audience that they should be worried about a wall in case you can’t get out?
(AV) “The one area I disagree with Trump is that I get the metaphoric wall, he means restore sovereignty, in the really bad areas build a wall, now it’s a fence, the point is that, obviously they build bigger ladders or dig under it, we all get that. So it’s more, he said he’s gonna build it as some ‘makework’ thing and I like how he gets passed political correctness, I like how he wants to cut poor people’s taxes to zero, I mean, I like stuff like that.”
(JV) “Well, like I said, I wanna see how he’s going to be able to do it and sustain these wars because these wars have cost us over a trillion dollars and we have nothing to show for it.”
(AJ) “Well General Flynn wants to reorganize everything and cut the size and have more effective everything (wasn’t that the calamitous Dick Cheney strategy, we saw how much money that saved?)”
(JV) “Why can’t we bring back General Smedley Butler from the dead?”
(AJ) “I hear that, I totally agree with you. War is a racket”
(JV) (Laughs menacingly)
This was the killer blow, if you have read my previous article The Strange Relationship of Infowars' Alex Jones, Donald Trump and Roger Stone, you’ll know what Ventura is talking about. Jones is now all over the place but Jesse is going to play with Jones a little more before the referee intervenes…..
(AJ) “Look at all the hell Trump went through for saying there was no reason for us to be at war with Russia.”
(JV) “Oh, I agree with him 100%, I love the fact that he’s willing to talk to Putin, I would rather be talking than aiming guns at each other, I’m tired of it, I’m sick of it and you know what the good thing about creating a relationship with Russia is Alex?”
(AJ) “Well, they’ve got a gigantic border around the world (what the hell does that mean Alex?) and they do….”
(V) “Not just that, they’re white.”
Jones looks down towards his desk in a very sheepish fashion, knowing Ventura is directly calling both him and Trump racist, and then Jones counters…
(AJ) “That’s racist.”
(JV) (laughing in a mocking fashion)
(AJ) “No, I know…”
(JV) “It was tongue in cheek Alex, L-A-U-G-H”
(AJ) “No, I understand.”
(JV) “I’m making a joke, why wouldn’t we be their friends they’re white people?”
Jones now has nowhere to go. Metaphoric blood is pouring from his nose. Match over.
Jesse the Ace Ventura, triumphs once again.
And Jesse, you’re right, we do need General Smedly Butler back from the dead. But if we can’t, we’ll take you, at least for starters!
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