14 Facts About Obama's Presidency Most People Don’t Know

President Obama visiting Iowa
President Obama visiting Iowa

Obama's Presidency: The Facts

People have many perceptions of how the US economy or the country as a whole has done in recent years. Depending on your political views, you may think the country is doing exceptionally well or is teetering on the verge of collapse.

Listed below are fourteen objective facts, without interjected opinion, about the state of America under the leadership of President Obama. Every statement is followed up with a link to a reputable source where you can verify the fact for yourself.

1. We've now had 78 straight months of economic expansion.

That’s right: For seventy-eight consecutive months, the US economy has gotten progressively better. That includes a new record for consecutive months of private sector job growth. Forbes magazine (which is no fan of President Obama) crunched the numbers and demonstrated how the economic recovery under President Obama has been better in just about every measurable way than the recovery under President Reagan.

Source: Obama Out-Performs Reagan on Jobs, Growth, and Investing; Forbes magazine.

2. We are currently enjoying the longest period of private sector job creation in American history.

This statistic also comes from the Forbes magazine article listed above. In fact, we've enjoyed 68 straight months of private sector job creation. That is the longest period of job creation since the Department of Labor has been keeping statistics.

Source: Obama’s Claim That Businesses Are in the "Longest Uninterrupted Stretch of Job Creation": The Washington Post.

3. Unemployment has dropped from 10.1% in October of 2009 to 4.9% by early 2016.

Not only has the unemployment rate dropped significantly, but since the recession ended, the US economy has gained over twelve million new jobs. (You can refer to the Forbes article above or check the article below.)

Source: Democratic Presidents Bring It: Obama Shatters Clinton’s Record For Private Sector Job Growth: PoliticusUsa.

It is also worth noting that during the 2012 presidential election, Obama's opponent, Mitt Romney, promised to lower the unemployment rate to 6% by the end of 2016. President Obama succeeded at lowering unemployment to under 6% two full years earlier than Romney had promised.

Source : Romney vows to lower unemployment to 6% by the end of 2016: The Hill

4. The stock market continues to set new record highs since President Obama took office.

Since early 2009, there has been a steady upward trend in stock market growth. The Dow Jones Industrial averages reached an all-time high of 18,292 in May, 2015. Since most Americans have 401K retirement investments in the stock market, this growth benefits millions of middle class Americans.

Source: Dow Jones Industrial Average Last 10 Years: Macrotrends.

5. The Federal budget deficit is shrinking. It’s been reduced by two-thirds since 2009.

The $1.4 trillion federal budget deficit that Obama inherited in 2009 was in a large part due to the high rate of unemployment. When millions of people were put out of work in 2008 and 2009, it resulted in far less income taxes and less economic activity to generate federal revenue. As eleven million people have regained employment, there have been billions more tax dollars generated. As a result, the deficit has been shrinking each year. The 2015 deficit was $439 billion, the smallest deficit since 2007, and roughly 70% lower than it was in 2009.

Source: What is the Deficit?:

6. Under President Obama, government spending has increased only 3.3% annually, the lowest rate since Eisenhower was president.

You may have heard critics say that President Obama is spending money wildly and running up our debt. According to this article from Forbes, Obama has increased spending by 1.4% annually, far less than President Reagan (8.7%) or George W. Bush (8.1%). According to a more recent article from the Washington Post, Obama has increased spending 3.3% annually. In either case, Obama has increased spending less than any president since Eisenhower.

Sources: Who Is the Smallest Government Spender Since Eisenhower? Would You Believe It's Barack Obama? Forbes magazine.
The Facts About the Growth of Spending Under Obama: Washington Post.

7. For 95% of American taxpayers, income taxes are as low or lower than they were at almost any point in the last 50 years.

After President Obama took office, thousands of Tea Party members all over the country held rallies protesting Obama’s tax increases. At that time, President Obama had actually passed several tax cuts to stimulate the economy. Most of the Tea Partiers who were protesting had only seen their taxes decrease under Obama, yet polls indicated that most Tea Party members wrongly believed their taxes had gone up.

In fact, the only people whose income taxes have gone up during Obama’s presidency are those making $400,000 per year or more. That's less than 2% of the population. Today, for the vast majority of people, tax rates are lower than or exactly where they were when Obama first took office. The article below from the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities explains this in greater detail.

Source: Federal Income Taxes on Middle-Income Families Remain Near Historic Lows, Center on Budget and Policy Priorities.

8. Dependence on foreign oil has shrunk due to record domestic oil production and improved fuel efficiency standards.

While some claim that oil production has declined under President Obama, the truth is just the opposite. Oil production has reached record highs. The United States now produces so much oil that we export more oil and gasoline than we import.

Source: IndexMundi.

9. At least 18 million more Americans now have health insurance than before.

Depending on whose numbers you use, anywhere from 12 to 18 million Americans acquired health insurance due to the Affordable Care Act. Now that those millions of Americans have insurance, the rest of us are no longer on the hook to pay for their healthcare when they get sick. This saves the American people billions of dollars in the long run.

Source: Obamacare Helped Up to 10 Million Get Insurance, Gallup Finds: NBC News.

10. The Affordable Care Act has added years to the life of Medicare.

The Medicare trust fund had been on course to run out of money by the end of 2016. But due to cost savings from the Affordable Care Act and lower healthcare expenses, Medicare’s trust fund will now remain stable until the year 2030 without cutting benefits.

Source: Medicare, Social Security Disability Fund Headed in Different Directions; The Wall Street Journal.

11. Since passage of the Affordable Care Act, we are seeing the slowest rate of increase in healthcare costs since 1960.

Contrary to the Republican predictions, healthcare costs have increased at a much slower pace since the passage of the ACA.

Source: Trends in Health Care Cost Growth and the Role of the Affordable Care Act; White House Report.

12. We currently have fewer soldiers, sailors, and airmen in war zones than we did at any time in the last 12 years.

With the end of the Iraq war and the steady withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan, we have fewer people in war zones now than we did at any time since 2002.

13. There have been zero successful attacks by al Qaeda on US soil since Obama became president.

Despite Dick Cheney’s warning that if voters elected a Democrat as president, we’d be “hit again and hit hard” by al Qaeda, we have actually been far safer from terrorist attacks on US soil in recent years than we were under the previous president. There have been several unsuccessful attacks against the US under both Bush and Obama, but under Obama, al Qaeda has been largely unsuccessful in striking the US on our home soil.

Source: Timeline of Al Qaeda Attacks

14. We now successfully catch and deport more illegal immigrants than ever before.

Despite the mythology being spread by President Obama's political opponents about our "open border" with Mexico, the numbers prove that President Obama has turned back and deported more illegal immigrants than any other president.

Politifact checked the claim that President Obama turned away more illegal immigrants than any other president, and they confirmed that under President Obama, the US has turned back or deported an average of 32,886 people per month. That's a far greater rate than any other president in history by far.

Source: Has Barack Obama deported more people than any other president in U.S. history? Tampa Bay Times.

Additional Facts About Economic Gains with Obama's Presidency

Although all of the facts stated above can be confirmed through multiple sources, most Americans are not aware of these positive statistics. I invite you to do your own research and check these facts for yourself.

The truth is, most other presidents would envy President Obama’s record which has flourished despite the fact that he inherited the results of the worst economic crash since the Great Depression.

If you feel particularly ambitious, feel free to research these additional facts:

  1. Since Obama became president, our economy has gone from losing 750,000 jobs per month to adding 250,000 jobs per month. That’s a net improvement under Obama of about 1 million jobs per month!
  2. Before Obama became president, our financial system was in ruins and millions of people were at risk of losing their life savings. Now, the financial loopholes have been fixed and we are no longer at risk of another financial collapse.
  3. In just 7 years under Obama, there were more than three times as many jobs created as there were in the whole 8 years under George W. Bush.
  4. President Obama passed credit card reforms that protect consumers from excessive fees, rate hikes, deceptive marketing, and unreasonable due dates.
  5. Thanks to Obamacare, senior citizens have saved billions of dollars on prescription drugs.
  6. The Affordable Care Act requires insurance companies to spend at least 80% of collected premiums on healthcare. As a result, millions of Americans have received refunds from their health insurance companies.

Source: Health Insurers Set to Give Out More Obamacare Refunds; Huffington Post Business.

Despite the unprecedented obstructionism and record number of filibusters used by Republicans to kill even the most routine legislation, the fact remains that the American people are profoundly better off today than they were before President Obama took office, in almost every measurable way.

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Haeli 5 hours ago

Wow, he should have been a math professor instead of a law professor because he can really manipulate those numbers!

Vishwasji 42 hours ago

Wonder what was Obama's contribution in these growth? It is the free capitalist economy that resurged. His contribution is actually negative. His tacit support to Muslim Brotherhood created a lot of problems and demeaned the US President's prestige. During his Presidentship, China grew as a baiter of America, Russia became aggressive. Turkey issue created a lot of distrust. He then divided America on the basis of race by appealing black to vote for Hillary. He always considered himself as a Black President as a matter of pride. ..............Rather the most damaging President of America yet. A very intelligent man otherwise wasted for good of the World.

nicomp 8 days ago

@Sully, rates are low 'cause Obama's government is printing billions of dollars from thin air and pumping it into the economy at 1% interest. If you are a bank you can get money from The Fed for 1%, then loan it out at 3%. In other words, the rates are being held artificially low so folks like you think all is well. Watch what happens when rates are permitted to float again.

Sully 8 days ago

No mention that rates have been at lowest level for 8 years.

guy 8 days ago

why no source for number 12?

nicomp 9 days ago

@LCBrown Indeed Obama is a great leader. I love that I was able to keep my health insurance plan and keep my doctor and see my premiums decrease $2500 per year, just as he promised. It's simply wonderful.

LCBrown 10 days ago

This is a fantastic article. I wish people would read before they speak. They would be surprised about how wrong a lot of their views really are. Most don't have a clue of what their talking about. They should get the facts before speaking or posting. That's why I'm here. I wanted to get the facts before I posted my views. I think that President Obama has been one of our greatest leaders as of today. I think in years to come that this will before more apparent to everyone. When President Obama took office the economy & everything had already started on a downward spiral, & people have forgotten about that. I think the President of the USA should always want what's best for our country, the people of our country, & strive to do whatever it takes. That you again for sharing this article.

William Salas 13 days ago

Great article consisting of facts, unlike the negative comments left by the haters.

To the man who states the US paid millions for 4 hostages.

The funds were released from the Nation of Irans bank acts here in the US. It's their money.

Caleb 3 weeks ago

Nice article. Too bad you failed the objectivity test and failed to report on the following issues:

1. Decline in small businesses and start ups actually hiring employees other than themselves -- Obama contributes to the historical trend - most job growth with Obama is government sector and large corporations (cost of regulatory compliance);

2. Continuing rise in tuition costs which regularly outpace inflation (keep subsidizing -- the prices will increase;

3. Continuing rise in health care costs which outpace inflation (keep subsidizing -- the prices will increase); and yet another factor contributing to decline in small business growth;

4. Continued rise in student loan defaults;

5. Home ownership decline for millennials falling to historic lows (48-year low);

6. Mortgage default rates on the rise.

But hey -- you've got everything figured out. These issues are obviously not all that important. The rest of us have you and Obama to save us. We just need to listen to you. Or even better, we all need to go out and get a government job so we can see our GDP growth explode – or shucks – I forgot, government employment doesn’t really count for GDP growth as the government subsidizes the resulting consumer spending.

No argument from me on whether GWB or GHWB were good presidents. Since LBJ, Democrats and Republicans keep learning how to "buy" votes by creating more government programs -- whether for consumers or for large multi-national corporations. A day of reckoning will eventually come for the U.S. While it will not happen soon, one day some sort of economic shift in global currency will dethrone the dollar as the reserve currency. When that happens, the house of cards all comes down.

The only question is which politicians and political parties will get us to that economic cliff the quickest. Gore and Kerry would have arguably been better than GWB as we would not have the mess in the Middle East and the cost of two wars on our backs. McCain and Romney would have been better than Obama -- as he has now set the standard for buying votes -- free healthcare for the perpetually poor and citizenship for those flooding the southern border.

Maybe, just maybe, if we are lucky, the Democrats will decide to allow 1 million natives of the Pacific Rim into the U.S. Who am I kidding -- the Dems are too smart to let fiscal conservatives into the states.

Tanner 3 weeks ago

If all this is true how come more people than ever are on foods stamps?

Why has the debt increased over 80%

Why is home ownership down?

Why are more Americans below the poverty line??

Why is household income down??

Why are insurance companies bailing on Obamacare??

Why has the GDP growth rate not been over 3% in any single year of his presidency?? This is a first for any president

Mark 3 weeks ago

Please read an article from the National Review from May 2016. I know you will criticize the source but the information provided is true. You ask that we accept your information on its merit and without your bias, please do the same here and respond to their points. I would of listed much of the information hit though it would be more efficient for you just to look at the article like I took the time to do yours. Thank you

Mike 3 weeks ago

Can his explain why the national debt has increased so dramatically but you say the deficit is at records low and spending is down. Seems like that money would be going to pay down the debt. Also is spending is down how is the debt so high?? Again wouldn't those savings do to pay down the debt.

I also wouldn't site no attacks in America. That seems to be a play on words.

This is the only place I've seen that references Obamacare in a positive way. Many have been forced into paying penalties and dropping their insurance. I know I for one lost my doctor.

German 4 weeks ago

Some of the postings are incrompehensible for an European citizen. You have since years a president which tries everything to to for the population, must fight 8 years against a blockade from the republicans, and created more jobs than in the 8 years before. GWB created the biggest desaster after 1945 in the world, started a war based on lies and nobody want him and his supporters in jail? Whats going on in America? It is only a discussion about power between two parties, but NOT about humanity, not about better life, not about security, but about business, to be the most powerful country in the world (lost by GWB). Make America great again? Other leaders made that statement in the past and one of them created the biggest desaster in the world between 1933 and 1945. Sorry, I can say that, because it was my country, my forefathers which believe that guy. Don't follow such populist people and their statements. The opposite will happen.

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jackclee lm 4 weeks ago from Yorktown NY

In that instance, it is a matter of precedence that in an election year, both parties have deferred appointment of Supreme court justice until a new President is in place. I would have personally preferred to have the case go through the nomination process and allow the Senate to decide whether to approve or deny. BTW, I am a conservative and don't a

Ways agree with the Republicans. They have certainly not done their duty this past few years and hold the President in check with regard to spending. That was a huge disappointment to us who wants a balanced budget from out national government.

Andrew C. 4 weeks ago

Jackclee lm The last time I checked it was the Republican majority that was failing to uphold the Constitution. Can you say Judge Merrick Garland.

jackclee lm 7 weeks ago from Yorktown NY

Actually conservatives are winning because of Obama. It is his fail liberal progressive policies that have awaken the silent majority. I guess all dark clouds have a silver lining. I realize you are an Obama supporter no matter what. But know this, our country is only strong when we uphold the Constitution. This President has done so much damage to our structure it will takes years to recover.

Killtoy 4 weeks ago

Jeff, the problem you have trying to convince millions of people who are living worse today than they was 8 years ago that they really are doing better but you see they live their lives they know if they are doing better or not. I personally am not and many others seem to think they are not as well so what you call facts dont ring true to the real blue collar man. I am sure the 1% and all you wall street yahoos probably are doing better but unfortunately you guys make up a small part of the population.

Puglug1 5 weeks ago

These "facts" were obviously compiled by Loretta Lynch,in concert with Pelosi,Reid Clinton and Biden. Such crap!

Robert 8 weeks ago

In 2008 the US national debt was $10 trillion, today it is nearly $20 trillion. I don't think the president can take all the credit or blame for how good or bad the state of our Nation/Economy is, but personally, I am worse off financially than I was in 2008. Being forced to retire early from the military because of budget cuts, but I do have a smaller mortgage payment due to lower interest rates.

HRagus 2 months ago

The payment was part of a settlement over an arms deal from 1979, shortly before Iran went through a regime change.

U.S. officials have denied that the payment was a ransom for the release of the prisoners.

“As we’ve made clear, the negotiations over the settlement of an outstanding claim ... were completely separate from the discussions about returning our American citizens home,” said John Kirby, a State Department spokesman.

“Not only were the two negotiations separate, they were conducted by different teams on each side, including, in the case of The Hague claims, by technical experts involved in these negotiations for many years.”

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jackclee lm 2 months ago from Yorktown NY

Another fact just became public -

The Obama Adminstration has paid Iran $400 million for the release of 4 American hostages.

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jackclee lm 2 months ago from Yorktown NY

Here is another fact that was just announced-

President Obama has commuted the sentence of more people than the past 9 Presedents combined.

Hragus 2 months ago

"The funny thing about people is that if they believe something to be true they do not need any proof. If they do not believe something to be true then no amount of proof would ever change their mind".

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nicomp 2 months ago from Ohio, USA

"Obama is in the final months of his presidency and you still feel compelled to keep bashing him."

Are you suggesting special treatment for Obama? Can't he take the heat? Is he in a special class?

Anyway, I appreciate that you effectively obfuscated Jackie's point about the failure of the ACA. You led the conversation far afield rather than address those facts.

Your bias is inescapable. In the words of your patron saint, Daniel Patrick Moynihan, “You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.”

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jackclee lm 2 months ago from Yorktown NY

Actually conservatives are winning because of Obama. It is his fail liberal progressive policies that have awaken the silent majority. I guess all dark clouds have a silver lining. I realize you are an Obama supporter no matter what. But know this, our country is only strong when we uphold the Constitution. This President has done so much damage to our structure it will takes years to recover.

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jeff61b 2 months ago Author

Jacobus, Nicomp and others -

I don’t dispute that there are negative facts out there as well. This article was written because there has always been a great focus on the negative during Obama’s presidency and I wanted people to be reminded of some facts that often seem to get overlooked. That’s why the title is “14 Facts That Most People Don’t Know” and not “A Comprehensive Summary of The State of America”.

This article would have to become a 400 page book if we wanted to weigh all the good and bad information about the present state of our country.

Every fact listed in this article is backed up with source information and can be easily researched and verified. Some people try – and fail – to dispute these facts. Others post bogus information or links to right wing opinion pieces that have no basis in fact.

And when anyone posts factual information that casts a negative light on the Obama presidency, I may respond but I do not delete those comments or attack the person who posted them. But they do not take anything away from the facts that I stated in this article.

Obama is in the final months of his presidency and you still feel compelled to keep bashing him. And you apparently cannot stand to see anyone expressing an opinion that is different from yours.

I do get some enjoyment out of the people who keep coming back to this article for months and months to attack it again and again. It must really bother you that President Obama’s job approval rating keeps rising as the state of our country improves throughout his presidency.

Good news for our country is always bad news for conservatives.

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jackclee lm 2 months ago from Yorktown NY


I don't expect anything from jeff. I just want the readers to get the truth...

Jeff is a committed liberal and will support Obama to the end. The same that supported Bill Clinton in the impeachment procedings.

The same that will attack Reagan any chance he gets.

The same that will vote for Hillary even though she is as corrupt if not more than Bill.

Over the years, I have learned that the real power is the people pulling the strings behind the scenes. They are orchestrating this divide and laughing all the way to the bank.

I stopped following in line and just stick to the facts.

Jacobus 2 months ago

You have some interesting facts there, but not everything has improved since President Obama took office. Focusing only on side of the story shows a definite bias and a fear of showing the full picture. Here are some additional facts that may help balance out the good and bad:

Median household income was down 3 percent as of 2014, and the official poverty rate was 1.6 percentage points higher. The rate of home ownership has dropped to the lowest point in nearly half a century.

The federal debt owed to the public has gone up 107 percent. He did have lower spending and the deficit is down, but under Obama, the national debt has increased from 52 percent of the gross domestic product in 2009 to 74 percent. We have seen an 80 percent increase in the national debt from $10.6 trillion to $18.9 trillion. The largest increase in history. With congress, he has repeatedly raised the debt limit without making any spending reforms.

While there are fewer Soldiers in Iraq, look at what is going on there. For years he touted that he pulled Soldiers out of Iraq, and then when ISIL became a problem he said he didn't make that decision. Not only that, but the military has shrunk under his watch, leaving the military less capable of meeting the security needs of interest to the country.

The labor participation rate (people actually employed or looking for work) has gone down. This is not reflected in the improved unemployment rates but does help explain them. We now have the fewest Americans in the work force since 1977. Welfare spending now stands at $1 trillion and 45 million people are on food stamps.

On insurance, the way the census collects data also changed in 2013, so comparing some of the statistics, like insured citizens, to previous numbers is misleading. I read an article yesterday that actually talked about how in several states insurance rate hikes will be in the double digits in 2017. This includes Illinois, California, Michigan, and New Jersey, among others. The "affordable" care act is quickly becoming less affordable, mostly due to the fact that it has done nothing to actually address the cost of medical care. Obama failed to realize that insurance companies are businesses and in order to stay in business they have to make money. Of course, many of the people getting insurance through the Affordable Care Act won't see the increase. The increase will come in government subsidies and more tax-payer dollars. Tax increases for Obamacare alone are expected to total $800 billion through 2022.

On that note, Obama has failed to follow through on his campaign promise of entitlement reform.

He has issued 184 major executive regulations, bypassing the legislative process and costing the economy at least $80 billion annually.

So while you can list his accomplishments, keep in mind that focusing only on the good, doesn't eliminate the bad, it only gives you part of the picture. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain...


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nicomp 2 months ago from Ohio, USA

jackclee lm , don't expect Jeff61b to revise his screed. Facts don't get in the way of his opinions.

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jackclee lm 2 months ago from Yorktown NY

Latest news on ACA failing big time-

In fact 8 of 11 health exchanges are failing...

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jeff61b 2 months ago Author

Angelique -

There is very little in your comment that was true or accurate.

Things aren’t perfect for sure but we’re a whole lot better off than before Obama took office.

According to the National Law Enforcement Officers memorial Fund, killings of police officers are actually down under Obama.

The number of police officers killer annually during Obama’s presidency is 134.

During the previous 8 years the number was 171.

Successful terrorist attacks by foreign terrorists on our soil are still very rare and we've had far fewer Americans killed be foreign terrorist than we did during the 8 years before Obama.

Unemployment keeps going down. Millions of new jobs are created ever year. The economy is still setting records for the longest continuous expansion in history.

angelique 2 months ago

In 2008, when Obama was running for President, we wanted a change, boy did we get one. Our system is more screwed up than ever. Nothing's right! Terrorist every week. Policemen killed every week. Unemployment. Economy. Trade. Immigrants. College. Fear. Conflicts. Hate, Division. And it will only get worse if Hilliary is elected. We know what she is all about. More Obama & Hilliary. Dishonesty, steals, kills, lies, the Devil himself!!!

Alicia 2 months ago

I have not studied politics extensively but have begun to look for answers as our family is divided by politics. Reading your site info & reading comments there is one thing I've learned & that is to take you all with a grain of salt. Your references are sometimes are known liberals. Unfortunately people don't take the time to study & compare census data but if you truly want to form intelligent opinions, one really needs to base opinions on your own research. Another thing that helps is to understand what is happening in your state, your county, your community. I live is the Southwest & am Mexican so I have a unique position to understand the drain to resources & problems that result from our current neglect of not enforcing our immigration laws. So, my opinions will be different from someone who lives other states. Bottom line, I need to do the research myself.

Ernie Sherretta 2 months ago

Thank you for a great summary of the FACTS which most people who are prejudice, or bigoted can see no matter how you show the FACTS to them.

They live in their own little "I am right, you are wrong" world which is why we have wars and persecutions and violence of all sorts.

James 2 months ago

This response is for Tim who clearly didn't complete high school or fAILED econ 101. Fiscal debts are from the previous calendar year. Hence the money that we didn't have that Bush spent the years prior showed up in deficit later. Although the Obama admisitration was spending less the debt continued to grow

Your ignorance and or racism is unfathomable.

You are truly a citizen of united ignorant bigots who are too ignorant to realize how stupid they are!!!!!

jazzworker 2 months ago

If Obama was born in Kenya, is a Muslim, supporter of terrorism, gay, traitor ,communist, fanciest, (fill in the blank), etc. determined to destroy the U.S. one of only two things must be true.

All eleven U.S. intelligence agencies, those of our allies including the Mossad plus Interpol and media, individualy and

collectively failed to vet Obama.


All of the above conspired to have Obama elected...twice.

Ain't no other choice for revisionist GOP assertions.

Everyone Forgets One Fact 3 months ago

This is also the only president who has had 8 years of virtually zero interest rates in which to build economic growth. What will happen to the cost of debt service if the Fed ever has the guts to increase interest rates? Of course he doesn't have to worry about that. He leaves that problem in the laps of future presidents.

SMP0102 3 months ago

I like the style of your article and hoped to see a similar one regarding Rep policies. Two things were disappointing: Blind facts are misleading : i.e. no al quaeda attacks, but no mention of Isis attacks. Misleading on the topic of homeland security. Then I reviewed your other topics and realized that you are pro Dems. There went balance.

Marge 3 months ago

The first paragraph here negates your comment and research on the deficit

Tim 3 months ago

Well, this is laughable. How do you double the debt and reduce spending? What did we do with the debt? Save it for a rainy day?

Rob 3 months ago

I really appreciate thia article and the resources included within. And the time to research the article as well! Thank you! I am really going to miss Obama! He is the only president that I have respected in my lifetime! Thanks again!!

Raiser123 3 months ago

It sucks to hear that you are struggling to find work. I know what thats about, I'm looking right now. But do you really believe that how your specific life is going is a direct reflection of how good the President is doing at his job? What is it they say? Bad luck floats around, its got to fall on somebody. Maybe its not just you. Maybe its everybody. But if that were true, and it was everybody, then none of the numbers they guy put up in this post would be true. Unemployment wouldn't be less than half of what it was 8 years ago. You are 49 now, you were 41 when Obama was inaugurated as President of the US, you were 33 when Bush was inagurated President. When you were 33 years old you are young, in your prime, and attractive to employers, when you are 41, less, and when you are 49, way more less. I'm just saying, you are not 33 anymore. More than that, what industry are you in? Oil and Gas were booming through the 2000's now they are bust. You gonna blame OPEC on Obama? Other shits booming now, and those people who have those skills are getting jobs like gangbusters, thats just the free market. Thats how the free market works. Thats how its always worked. Just saying "I don't care what the figures say, this dude has fucked the whole world up!" is just denying the facts of the case. Its closing your eyes and puting your fingers in your ears and going la-la-la I can't hear you! This article shows the up and not the down because it is an answer to the people who walk around saying President Obama has done nothing good and only bad. He's got other things that he didn't do super hot at, and if you think "eh, he got some stuff right, some stuff wrong, but thats how all Presidents have been since George Washington" then you are learning nothing new by reading this article, if you think Obama has never done anything good, then this article includes information that you didn't know and you learned something.

Ronnie B. 3 months ago

All I know is that out of the'TWO -EVILS' that We've had in our last two Presidents,President Bush Was Definitely 'The Lesser' of them.I am 49 years old and have lived (God Willing) through both administrations and All I know is JOBS were a 'DIME -A-DOZEN' Under President Bush.I was always employed from 2000-2008 and Never Homeless! I've been homeless on two separate occasions while Obama has been in office.And Jobs have been 'Few and FAR In Between' for myself and practically Everyone that I know or even that I meet on the streets and make small talk with.And also with President Bush,at least We all received an economic recovery check of 300 dollars back in '08.I cannot name ONE Thing that Mr.Obama has done in the last Eight years where EVERY AMERICAN benefited from it.I know him being The Very First Black President is Very Historical,But in these Hard Times that America has been in It Is Simply Not Enough From What WE Need as our Commander In Chief.

Karen Kesby 3 months ago

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ddlamarr 3 months ago

It just amazes me that conservatives are so hellbent on Obama. These people venomously responding are your typical racist Trump supporter. When facts don't matter to people, the only explanation is that they are prejudice. You can show fact after fact that his presidency is better by all measures than Bush lite, or St. Reagan, but when you can't accept that reality, you are a racist, plain and simple.

Mexican 3 months ago

Now if you catch a Mexican crossing the border and turn him around the government say they deported that person. As for oil, its form the privet sector pumping on privet lands the government can not stop them from pumping the oil. My insurance has tripled what I was paying 3 years ago. Yes he is doing a good job for the working people.

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nicomp 4 months ago from Ohio, USA

"Gains in the stock market go primarily to the already rich. Just like the whole rest of the economy" -- Userfriendlyyy

Absolutely and completely false. Totally wrong.

All you have to do is think and I will help you do that.

The #1 mutual fund for saving for retirement, as rated by Kiplinger, is "Vanguard Institutional Index." That fund owns Apple, Microsoft, Exxon, Johnson & Johnson, and numerous other equities.

The #3 fund, also rated by Kiplinger, is "Fidelity Contrafund Index." That fund owns Facebook, Berkshire-Hathaway, and Amazon, just to name a few.

The stock market is there for all of us who have a brain to invest. You don't have to be 'rich' to benefit.

Userfriendlyyy 4 months ago

It's not that all your stats are wrong; they are just selected to give the best possible image for Obama.

Gains in the stock market go primarily to the already rich. Just like the whole rest of the economy. Do you know many people that have debt and investments in the stock market?

There were roughly 6 main economists that predicted the 2008 recession, most if not all are predicting we are on the verge of another.

Carol Rixford 4 months ago

I don't feel the unemployment rate is accurate. I feel the numbers you use are simply the number of people is generated by the number of people currently on unemployment. It does not count the number of people that were on unemployment and have dropped off simply because their benefits have reached their limit but still have not received any employment.

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nicomp 4 months ago from Ohio, USA

jackclee lm , the ACA creates more jobs because companies hire part-time to avoid the 30 hour penalty. It's also a boon for the insurance and compliance industries. No productive work is accomplished, it's like WPA, but BHO can say people are employed.


Joan 4 months ago

He loves himself and brags on himself..... but he does not love America. None of this can be proved. He has trashed our country and that trumps all this. Worst president ever. Why do you think everyone is SO angry? He says he did not contribute to the anger. Oh yes, he most certainly DID!

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jackclee lm 4 months ago from Yorktown NY

jeff61b, I don't need to. The numbers speak for itself. The latest job creation number is only 38K jobs in May. It's not anyone's fault but the Obama ACA.

Bill Kreml 4 months ago

Job creation? Yes, but at which end of the SES spectrum. Unemployment down? Yes, mostly because of drop-outs from the pool. No mention of deficits going back up in 2016. CBO says $544B for calendar 2016, with another uptick in 2018. Three years since 2010 w/ no S.S. raises. Dependence on foreign oil down? Yes, because of fracking. Go to Oklahoma and feel the earth move under your feet, as Carol King would put it. 18 million new folks with health care? Yes, but look at co-pays, deductibles, no bargaining with pharmaceuticals, and no public option. Never forget decades of letting health costs go unchecked, making single payer, which America favors, twice as expensive as Europe. War? Well, we're back in Iraq with boots on the ground and casualties including death. 23,000 bombs dropped on the Muslim world in 2015. Obama has bombed 7 Muslim countries. Look at what Obama did in Libya, then Syria, etc., etc. Most importantly, no restraint on Israel at all. Our president is in the hands of the divided loyalty Semi-Americans. Vote Green. Full disclosure: I am Green presidential candidate, currently running second to Jill Stein. Obama's need for full disclosure? When will he admit that he taught the Supreme Court case of Shelley v. Kraemer incorrectly at The University of Chicago Law School.

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jeff61b 4 months ago Author

jacklee lm -

If you want to criticize Obamacare or any other program that President Obama has worked on, you will need to come up with a better source than Breitbart com.

Robert PFaff 4 months ago

I have two more questions please.

3) Growth in the stock market does not equal domestic economic growth. Its a disingenuous comparison.

The U.S. federal budget is about $2 trillion. The United States GDP - the last time I checked is around $12 trillion. The combined investments in the stock markets is impossible to estimate but the last time I checked the best guess was $55 trillion. Investments in the stock market are not therefore investments in the U.S. companies - but more likely in emerging economies where the yields are higher. In addition, investing in American businesses - given the nature of international multi-conglomerates, free-trade agreements and corporate tax loopholes and shelters - it is far too vast and complex to make a blanket statement that stock market growth equates to domestic growth and "floats all boats," so to speak.

It would require an elaborate analysis to correlate current stock market growth with domestic well-being. But Apple is a great example - $100 billion in stashed Irish off-shore tax shelters, scandals over back-dating options, these are just two examples of how buying stock in an American company is not a contribution necessarily to the domestic national tax base and overall economic stability.

4) Finally I have to add that's seven-year economic report for Obama's performance showed a 173% increase incorporate profits, but the average worker's purchasing power has increased by a pathetic 3.1%. If that is a real increasing - meaning above and beyond inflation - it's still pretty feeble when compared to worker productivity reflected in corporate profit. If it is a real increase, then the average American worker has barely kept pace with inflation. I appreciate much of what this President has accomplished, but I do not think addressed the systemic economic problems. Someone living off investments and capital gains still pays 15% in taxes while the average worker still pays somewhere around 28% in taxes in wages and revenues.

Robert PFaff 4 months ago

I appreciate much of what he has accomplished. I do not understand the President's boasts about private job sector growth.

1) What kinds of jobs, average wages in what sectors?

Creating 10,000,000 low-paying jobs in fast-food and retail industries is not an achievement and perpetuates the trend in income inequality that will lead to another economic collapse. If these jobs were created in thriving, living-wage sectors, then he has something to boast ab0ut. Please elaborate on the specifics regarding trends in job creation.

2) What seeds he has planted that will lead to long-term economic prosperity?

The previous two Presidents deregulated the housing and financial industries to generate short-term growth that led to the 2008 collapse. Our boom and bust culture has collapsed 16 times in the last 150 years and four times during my five decades on this planet. What has the President done DIFFERENTLY from other Presidents to address indicators in long-term economic prosperity? I have mixed opinions about international free-trade agreements.

Thank you for answering these questions.

Kenny 5 months ago

Ok Jeff I will give You Specifics # 9 ObamaCare yea its a new Law that we all have health Insurance .... but he lied about the Coverage and said Everyone will save money and Could Keep their insurance ..... Not Me sir. I now pay almost double what I did before and have about half the coverage I also paid a fee for NOT renewing my insurance this year on my income taxes ..... Well as I see it the Fee was ok to pay because I was paying More for insurance that was NOT worth it and the fee was a fraction of what I would have paid for the insurance that was No Good to me ..... By the Way I am a Cancewr survivor and I fell between the planks or whatever I made to much to get medical help and not enough to cover my Medical Bills ...... I lost my right leg to the Hip and I Personally Do Not Like it. the Whole Obama Care Thing. ;(

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teamrn 5 months ago from Chicago

Jeff, let me speak to everyone who insists on blaming Dubya or Regan or Clinton or the scarecrow. There's only so much one can INHERIT and after 7 years, don't you think it's about time you stand on your own two feet and say IT IS WHAT IT IS?

I don't care, nor do most, if Congress was less than helpful (those summations make for good theater for Doris Kearns Goodwin or Michael Beschloss or Peggy Noonan); but Barack Obama had Harry Reid in the Senate and there are articles upon articles of Dirty Harry's obstructionism. Thats an undeniable fact.

But let's dispense with the blame game. That he is 7 + years into his presidency and still blaming else is quite telling on his character and that he doesn't really have the full faith and support of what supposedly was HIS Senate and HIS Congress for two years and the people who put him where he is.

Such a mealy mouth agent of change who hides behind everyones skirts but his wife's....He had every opportunity to be the most powerful man in the free world. Just think of it, what a legacy he could have had; rather, he chose to spend his time blaming, blaming, blaming and now the US is seen throughout the world as a nation of whiners. That will be his legacy.

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nicomp 5 months ago from Ohio, USA

jackclee lm, ObamaCare might be a job-creator because layers of federal bureaucrats have been added to taxpayer-supported payrolls. These folks add nothing to the economy because they do not create value, but BHO can count them as new jobs.

Also, private companies have split full-time jobs into part-time jobs in order to avoid Obamacare rules (a loophole!), so numerically we observe a 2-for-1 split.

Like we always say "Figures lie and liars figure."

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jackclee lm 5 months ago from Yorktown NY

Jeff, nicomp, I stand by my statement that Obamacare is the biggest job killer. All the promises of lower cost and better healthcare has not come true. It is a mandate that affect most businesses in a big way. That is why many businesses large and small are reluctant to hire. They are opting for contract worker, part time workers and outsourcing or not hiring at all. Why can't you understand that these policies have real consequences?

Obamacare was a 2000 pages of regulations that are incomprehensible. Companies have to hire consultants to help them navigate all the complexities. It was designed to phase in over many years. The most devastating part will not kick in until Obama leave office. Why is that?

There is so much more to say I don't know where to begin. Some have estimated that it would have cost less and less disruptive if we had just expanded medicaid to cover the additional people that did not have healthcare before. 80% of the newly covered are being subsidized by the tax payers. Personally, My wife and I are also feeling the effects. Our company covered health insurance have seen increased premiums with less coverage and higher deductables. From many people that I speak with, that seems to be the norm. Many young people opted to pay the fine rather than buy insurance. If you know of one group of people who are happy with Obamacare, please advise.

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nicomp 5 months ago from Ohio, USA

"First you said Obamacare is the biggest job killer. Well Obamacare has only been fully in effect since 2013 and during that time our economy has been creating jobs at the fastest rate in 16 years."

Sure! Part-time jobs that take advantage of the ObamaCare 'loophole' (!) . Keep the employee under 30 hours weekly so health care bennnies are legally avoided.

"Small businesses are thriving in the past 3 years and our budget deficit has been reduced by 70%."

Obviously this is a use of the word 'thriving' that I am not familiar with. Anyway, the deficit is going down because Barack Hussein Obama, and Congress, bloated it to skyscraper levels in the first 5 years of his reign. Remember QE? The deficit has no where to go but down.

"Despite stopping the Keystone pipeline the price of gasoline is half what it was in 2008 and the job losses you mention don’t seem to be happening."

I love that uninformed Liberals think the US President is somehow responsible for oil prices. Did BHO tell China to slow their economy? Did BHO instruct OPEC to over-produce?

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jeff61b 5 months ago Author

Jackclee –

There is so much wrong with what you said.

First you said Obamacare is the biggest job killer. Well Obamacare has only been fully in effect since 2013 and during that time our economy has been creating jobs at the fastest rate in 16 years.

Small businesses are thriving in the past 3 years and our budget deficit has been reduced by 70%.

Despite stopping the Keystone pipeline the price of gasoline is half what it was in 2008 and the job losses you mention don’t seem to be happening.

Virtually none of your “facts” are true. You can’t just get all your information from right wing web sites.

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jackclee lm 5 months ago from Yorktown NY

Byny2000, it seems like a tale of two cities. He ended two wars but we are still fighting in Iraq. In addition, it lead to the rise of ISIS, which is causing havoc in the reagion, leading to over 1 million refugees fleeing to Western Europe. He gave us Obamacare, the biggest job killer. Just ask any small business owner why he is not hiring. He stopped the keystone pipeline and bankrupt the coal industry killing thousands more jobs. His recovery is the weakest in history with less than 2% GDP growth while incurring the masive debt, doubling from 9 trillion to 18 trillion. We have record people on food stamps and record number of people collecting disability. The interest rate is sruck at near zero percent for 8 years, unprecedented in modern economic history. Race relations has gotton worse over the last 8 years and police across the nation are holding back leading to increased crime rate. On the positive side, he played record number of golf compared to all past presidents. You seems like a young millennial. You have a long life ahead of you. You don't need to take my word for it. Go check it out and google them. Ask yourself, why many of your fellow millenials are living with their parents? And racking up record school loan debt.

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byny2000 5 months ago from Long Island NY

Great in sight. I think that when history tells the story of President Obama, he will be considered one of the greatest Presidents of all time. ending 2 wars, killing Bin Laden and giving us Obamacare. Not to mention he was the President who oversaw the greatest expansion of Civil Rights in 50 years. Plus he pulled the economy back from the brink all with a Congress who refused to work with him for 6 of the 8 years that he was President.

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jackclee lm 5 months ago from Yorktown NY

Wow, sounds like a party. Why aren't people dancing in the streets? Why is Hillary having such a tough time seeking the 3rd term of Obama?

Why are our friends overseas not trusting us? Why are our adversaries stubbing their nose at us? Why are race relations at all time low since the 1980's? Why are ACA exchanges going broke? Why is Donald Trump in the running for the Presidency? So many questions... The truth shall set you free.

teamrns 5 months ago

Jeff, 71 months of economic expansion. Thing is, people are looking for economic GROWTH and expansion and growth are NOT the same. I'm not well-enough versed in the subtle nuances that make the differences and will leave the 'splaining to someone who IS, but I'm aware that there IS a difference. Nice try. I would refer to this article which does a nice job of explaining the difference, but still I'm a bit unsure. Still, I don't claim to know the difference or misuse facts: This is from Economic Policy Institute's blog:

Camela Klein 5 months ago

I agree with this article- for the most part. However, the Affordable Care Act isn't exactly affordable if your income is too low. My husband and I have such a low income that we did NOT qualify for any subsidies and therefore could not afford Obamacare insurance for my husband. He is still uninsured.

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nicomp 5 months ago from Ohio, USA

Hey Jeff,

You're either mistaken or duplicitous. First off, please stop blaming deficits (plural) on Bush. No president gets to 'inherit' more than one deficit. After he takes office he and Congress are responsible for their own budgets and the deficits created therein.

Second off, Obama deficits may indeed be trending downward, and that's better than the alternative, but it's easy to trend downward when you start from skyscraper heights. See , which cites a graph from the CBO.

Crediting BHO for reducing the year-over-year deficit is like patting your kid on the head because he scribbles on the living room wall instead of the the entire house.

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jeff61b 5 months ago Author

nicomp -

You are mistaken. Forbes magazine (no fan of Obama) did the math and concluded that Obama only increased spending by1.4% annually during his first term. That's the lowest rate since Eisenhower was president.

Reagan increased spending by 8% per year.

The large deficits Obama inherited were due to the Bush recession, the wars and tax cuts.

Today the deficit is small because 12 million people have been put back to work, business is thriving, the wars are ending and we raised taxes on the very rich by 3%.

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nicomp 5 months ago from Ohio, USA

#5 is especially hilarious. Obama gets to blame Bush for 'inheriting' a deficit and then gets credit for reducing it after four years of profligate spending through his budgets in his first term.

The bottom line is that BHO administrations borrowed more money than all previous presidents combined. But you won't see that in this article.

dyburman 5 months ago

Retired Marine: I would suggest that information from 2015 or 2016 would be more relevant that an article from 2012.

dyburman 5 months ago

I too love a good laugh! When the GOP is faced with hard facts, they resort to name calling, whining and generally emotional responses that have no basis in reality.

Obama has done a tremendous amount of good for this country over the last 7+ years but the GOP refuses to acknowledge any of them. They are the ones that want to divide this country. When anything good happens, the President has nothing to do with it, and when anything bad happens, it is Obama's fault. Obama is not perfect and has made mistakes, just like every other President. But he has done way more good for this country then harmed it.

George W Bush left this country in a horrible state, and things have turned around so much under the leadership of our current President.

It is kind of pathetic that very few if any of the comments here,have responding with FACTS that indicate that the author was wrong or mistaken.

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nicomp 5 months ago from Ohio, USA

When I need a laugh I read this hub again. It truly should be published under comedy. Hubpages needs a category called "figures lie and liars figure."

Retired Marine 6 months ago

You may want to look here to see contrasting agruements...

Igmarg 7 months ago

I am constantly astounded at the willful ignorance and childish belligerence of (most) conservatives when shown the facts about Obama's presidency. The last time the economy performed as well was under President Clinton (most conservatives hate that fact as well). Although ... when you consider their nominee for 2016 is likely to be Drumpf, it's not that surprising. It'd be nice if they'd pull their heads out of the sand, or their butt, wherever they put their think-gland when liberals prove themselves not only competent, but excellent at running the country.

Michael 7 months ago

Good article. I have vetted the stats and they are true but some statements could be misleading. The funny thing about people is that if they believe something to be true they do not need any proof. If they do not believe something to be true then no amount of proof would ever change their mind.

Robert Stewart 7 months ago

I would have liked if you had listed some of the negatives of his presidency too such as his push for the TPP which is a Hillary esque nod to corporations over people. His drone strike program and his blocking of single payer health care when he could have passed it.

Karl Zaremba 7 months ago

I agree with most of it but I dislike the way #5 is framed. The rate of deficit growth is lower but the deficit itself is still rising just at a much lower rate. Explaining it this way gives those with Obama Derangement Syndrome a truthful argument at which point they call it all bunk. Otherwise truthful and good article

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jeff61b 7 months ago Author


What you don't understand is that the deficit of 2009 was almost entirely due to George W. Bush. Almost all the spending for a given year is appropriated in the previous year.

What's more, the deficit grew to $1.4 trillion not from increased spending, but due to the Great Recession where millions of Americans lost their jobs and the economy was in such turmoil that hundreds of billions of dollars in tax revenue was lost. That was the single biggest cause of the $1.4 trillion deficit. It did not occur on Obama's watch, but on Bush's.

BB 7 months ago

I completely don't understand #5. The federal budget deficit for FY 2008 was 458.55B. It rose to 1412.69B during FY 2009 (Obama's first year in office). At 484.62B for FY 2014, it was still slightly higher than the year ending a few days before Obama was elected. I don't understand how decreasing something by 2/3 after having tripling it in the first place can be a good thing.

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nicomp 7 months ago from Ohio, USA

"As for the Debt---Jimmy does not understand, that Debt adding up, is because That Part D Bush shoved in did not have a DIME behind it and now must be paid for. "

@Pam Bergs: There are many excellent economics courses at community colleges. Some schools are "Open Access", meaning you need only a GED or HS Diploma to enroll.

Pam Bergs 7 months ago

One of the typical commenters who show how true your article is on the TYPE of ignorance and hate out there: Jim says"There are more people underemployed and millions of others that are no longer counted because the method has changed. There is 19 trillion worth of debt which is not counted as a part of the current economy that will eventually have to be paid. People think things are better because they are getting free handouts instead of working" WTF were guys like Jimmy, when Bush was Hemorrhaging OUT those 800,000 jobs a Month? Never opened his big mouth...As for the Debt---Jimmy does not understand, that Debt adding up, is because That Part D Bush shoved in did not have a DIME behind it and now must be paid for. Plus 2 failed wars that Bush put on Chinese Credit cards had to be swung over to Debt instead of those cards.....and as for free stuff? Where the hell is it? I was hoping for a pony or a smart phone, and got NOTHING.........You Know, Haters, we do not mind when you are not a fan of this President----BUT-------we DO MIND when your reasons why are lies......You fool nobody, boyz......we KNow where you are coming from.

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Projectlazy 7 months ago

Canadian Here. I can tell you America in general has gained approval among people my age during his Presidency. At least among those I know. I look at what's around the corner and it's all a little scary.

Hragus 7 months ago

Conservative Quote

"Facts are the new lie"!

Michele Lafayette Hill PA 7 months ago

If Obama was found to be walking on water, his opponents would find fault and claim he can't swim. What about saving the auto industry? How about mandating that our college kids can be insured until 25? Where's the fault in that? I'm sure someone will have a problem with it. Sheesh

jim 7 months ago

You have got to be kidding me. There are more people underemployed and millions of others that are no longer counted because the method has changed. There is 19 trillion worth of debt which is not counted as a part of the current economy that will eventually have to be paid. People think things are better because they are getting free handouts instead of working. Every one of these supposed facts could be turned around and those same facts be used to prove the exact opposite. Wake Up People!

mary v 7 months ago

Wow, all the negetivity.pres.Obama has brought this country back. I can't imagine what we would be like if congress had of worked with him.This country is so divided.why democrats or republicans?Why not just people working together to help people and our country. We can do so much more, together.

bigtimelies 7 months ago

This whole article is a lie and has been paged by Obama. There is nothing else to say about it.

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nicomp 7 months ago from Ohio, USA

Not many folks know that in 2009 BHO delivered a 3 billion-dollar federal program called "Cash for Clunkers" that subsidized the purchase of some new cars in exchange for the destruction of the trade-in. The used-car market was upended as thousands of affordable vehicles were sent to the junk yard after their engines were drained of oil, filled with sand, and run until they seized. This was all part of the war on poor people, who could have purchased those used cars for basic transportation.

Shelley 7 months ago

this is all fine if really true but does not out weigh all the terrorist he has brought into the country or the fact he lets muslim prayers in office after he kicked out religion all seems terrifying to me esp since he is also funding terrorists

teamrns 7 months ago

My response is to KilaWatts and to Ann,

KilaWatts," During this period, Obama got his healthcare bill passed. I will never understand how our government and misguided citizens ever let that happen."Citizens weren't asked, they were just told that we'd "have to pass it to see what's in it"

Citizens had no say. It was said that the nurses union, the largest nursese union in the country, the American Nurses Union was for it--so the conclusion drawn was 'it must be a good thing!!' Hardley. The American Nurses Union represents less than 5 % of AMERICA'S PRACTICING NURSES!

That was just one deceit of several. Bottom line, the Constitution provided no pathway for the government to control the healthcare of this nation, so a bill should have gone through committee, all parties listened to, passed after on-line for 72 hours and cspan televised hearings as foretold.

If that promise wasn't 'able to be kept' that's not my problem, it is the bill presenters problem, the bill sponsors wrong to right. But, it was too damn easy for our chameleon president and HIS Congress (yes, he had the majority in 2009) to do nothing.

So please do not cast that one on a dumb citizenry, an ill-informed citizenry. One day life was good-the next day it was terrible.

Ann, you are the person, this POTUS was to have saved and served the most. Has he? I doubt it. This time, vote for the person whom you think can heal the nation, can start to mend the terrible wounds created by the POTUS and his disciples. I can't tell you who I think that is for obvious reasons, but I can tell you whom I know it ISNT.

IMHO, this country needs to begin the process of healing while we solve the ISIS, border problems 'the issues' problems. The only rhetoric from the left I could even remotely see as healing comes from Bernie Sanders and even that is divisive if your are wealthy or a business.

HRC is still denigrating Republicans, fire and brimstone style. so she is not a viable option for the healing we all know this country needs more than anything else. That candidate has his/her work cut out for it.

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RJ Schwartz 7 months ago from Idaho Falls, Idaho

By the time obama leaves office, he will have added $10 trillion to the national debt - this alone makes him a failure

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Dave Collis 5 hours ago

Others have pointed out other things we can't stand about O'Bama, so I wont repeat that, including the BLM- Black Lives Matter Crap, Michael Brown sympathy, and other thugs, and paying attention to them instead of other issues and crime. DOESN'T matter, we're all voting for Donald Trump around here, we've had almost 8 years of this, and Hillary, would be a clone of this guy. Go Donald Trump !

And , "Lets make America Great Again" !!!!

Dave Collis 8 months ago

Others have pointed out other things we can't stand about O'Bama, so I wont repeat that, including the BLM- Black Lives Matter Crap, Michael Brown sympathy, and other thugs, and paying attention to them instead of other issues and crime. DOESN'T matter, we're all voting for Donald Trump around here, we've had almost 8 years of this, and Hillary, would be a clone of this guy. Go Donald Trump !

And , "Lets make America Great Again" !!!!

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jeff61b 8 months ago Author

Blake Hall –

I’ve heard all these false claims you make and responded to them before but I’ll take a couple minutes to debunk them again. And I wont even make fun of your grammar and spelling.

“NO POTUS has ever BOWED to another leader other than him.”

Seriously? You can easily see pictures of Reagan, Bush, Nixon and other presidents bowing to foreign leaders. Do you know how to use Google?

“You have not included the number of people who are not employed that do not recieve Unemployment benifits.”

Wrong again. The unemployment numbers have nothing to do with unemployment benefits. Again, go to the Bureau of Labor Statistics and do some research.

Your other claims are a matter of public record and can be easily debunked with a little research.

Obama has taken far fewer days of vacation than either Reagan or GW Bush. His personal expenses are no bigger than any other recent president.

We don’t have “Open borders”. Obama has turned away more illegal immigrants than any other president in history. Again, do some research.



Blake Hall 8 months ago

Lewis England you are absolutely correct... The trade for 5 Taliban leaders for one U.S. Marine deserter who took an oath to die for his country rather than negotiate with terorist (which by law in itself is treason for the POTUS to allow) Is only ONE of MAAANNNNY traitorous acts he has done.. NO POTUS has ever BOWED to another leader other than him.. NO POTUS before has ever turned his back to the American Flag during the anthem. The numbers here are calculated without taking into account the wash that been accumulated from these acts. As unemployment has decreased the number of unemplyed HAS risen.. You have not included the number of people who are not employed that do not recieve Unemployment benifits. The number of troops has decreased overseas because the number of troops available to deploy has decreased, Enlistment is down. As for your market results, if one person can be the influence of the price of commodities we would not be in debt at all. Cost of living is up, trades jobs are down, which means construction is down, so wheres this big influx of jobs?.. private sector business jobs?.. B.S. And I haven't heard ANYONE TELL IT LIKE IT IS ABOUT THE EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM OR THE VACATIONS THAT HAVE COST US MILLIONS, THE IMPORTANCE OF HIS GOLF CLUBS RATHER THAN POLITICAL RESPECT. DENIAL TO MEET WITH ISRAELS PRIME MINISTER, OPENING THE BORDERS AND ALLOWING ANYTHING AND ANYONE REFUGE TO THE EXTENT IT IS BEYOND WHAT OUR OWN VETERANS RECIEVE. WHAT PLANET DO YOU RESIDE ON TO BELIEVE THE NUMBERS YOU HAVE PRESENTED? AND HAD THESE NUMBERS EVEN BEEN REALISTIC OR PROVEN THE TREASONIS ACTS HE HAS COMMITTED FAAAAR OUTWEIGH THE NUMBER OF "GOOD" THINGS "HE" GETS CREDIT FOR... THE ADMINISTRATION (AT TIMES) CAN BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THESE ACTIONS SOME OR ALL... NOT HIM

Alton 8 months ago

Did Obama write all of that , no because that is not what he was trying to do but as hard as he tried he couldn't stop any of it !

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jo miller 8 months ago from Tennessee

Nice job. I don't think you swayed anyone though.

Mark J Podolner 8 months ago

Sometimes "facts" are held up as the highest form of truth. This article is a good example of why they are not the ultimate truth. Facts in context are an example of high-level truth but not facts out of context. I basically support Obama and am appalled at the way the Republicans have denied him credit for anything. That said here's a couple of contextual problems that result from implying something broad with a narrow fact. (1) Yes, there has been continuous job growth under Obama after the crash. But what kind of jobs? Basically high paying jobs in manufacturing were replaced by low paying, part-time, non-unionized jobs in the service industry, particularly the fast food industry. (2) Then there's the "facts" about Obama lowering the deficit. Yes, but much of that is because the Republicans refused to support his spending plans to stimulate the economy. Finally, there's the significance here of the omission of facts - like the incredible income and wealth inequality that has increased under Obama - no mention of that here. I'd prefer to see a list of "facts" in context that demonstrate the accomplishments and the failures of the administration. Otherwise, those facts become propaganda.

Don Plagman 8 months ago

The government does not create employment...only private industry.

Wait until the end of his presidency. He will commute a large amount of drug dealers deemed non violent.

teamrns 8 months ago

I was going to write a very civil response to'still surfin,' and I'm probably going to unfollow this post that jeff (for some reason), because I can't believe that all the people here --INCLUDING MYSELF- are wasting their time on such a one-sided Hub with a moderator so one-sided and steeped in his kool-aid that this is such a prime example of a hub with an immature author who won't consider that there may be another way of looking at things and coming to A DIFFERENT CONCLUSION than he has. That is the reason for 'discussion' and I'll chastize myself, but he ought to do a little soul-searching too, as well as a number of partiticpants.

WHY was I unable to walk away without so much as a comment? There was a reference and there have been MANY in the hub author's response or in response to a definitely conservative comment and that reference is almost always regarding 'FOX news' and how conservatives need to pull their noses out of FOX news and try more well-rounded approaches, or some such nonsense. The accusations that conservatives get their news solely from FOX could not be further from the truth. Do libs grab their headlines from the NYT or WaPo? I hope not.

I think Iepresent a fair cross-section of the conservative vote. Get all my news from FOX? Typical news day, here we are and I'll gt to FOX.

'Washington Journal' on cSPAN, Morning Joe on MSNBC, continue MSNBC, then CNN throughout the day, yes, 2 hours of FOX: one news show, one OPINION show. Yes, FOX has OPINION shows that are marketed as, OPINION, where I need to say that MSNBC markets their opinion shows as NEWS. I can comment only that FOX shows are stated as WHAT THEY ARE in the name or in the introduction. I don't know what MSNBC's gig is.

So, before being half-cocked when it is said that all conservatives get ALL their news from FOX; I know I only speak for this conservative when I say, "HOGWASH!" What a superb (?) example of author bias which should be flagged; but I imagine my response will be.


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nicomp 8 months ago from Ohio, USA

"Yes, I'm asking you to leave ANY pre-conceived ideas at the door. Consider that the POTUS, when/if confronted with a House/Senate which is less than 'cooperative' took the high road and LEADS."

Oh my word. I'm choking on my Ovaltine. "Leads" ?? Seriously? Please move this discussion to Humor. Or Fiction.

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teamrn 8 months ago from Chicago

effb, "Every president is powerless to do much of anything without the help of Congress. " I disagree and I'll tell you why.

FIRST OF ALL, I'm asking you, for the sake of promoting a good, productive and honest discussion amongst Americans (yes, isn't it wonderful to live in a country where disagreement is tolerated, is encouraged?

Yes, I'm asking you to leave ANY pre-conceived ideas at the door. Consider that the POTUS, when/if confronted with a House/Senate which is less than 'cooperative' took the high road and LEADS.

A person who leads, commands respect and when you respect someone, you are more likely to consider that what the leaders says/does bears merit (no matter what it is!). Commanding respect-is NOT the same thing as 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em!

That a leader 'Commands respect' is not a phrase where the leader ORDERS you to respect him/her. Rather what he says, and the way he acts, makes you to WANT to follow him. The leader brings out the best in you and you dig deep in yourself and find qualities that you have, that the leader can work with.

This is kind of like the way the military wants and needs to believe that the POTUS IS their commander in chief and there is NO room to doubt the leader.

However, the true, the REAL leader can disagree with you and you with him, but the REAL leader has a way of causing you to RESPECT him,resulting in your wanting to work with him, no matter what. The REAL leader does not blame someone else for failures, he works with, and commands respect of those who disagree with him and they, hence, WANT to work WITH him.

That takes a rare person. However, that person can/does exist. That person IS ALREADY a leader and that person becomes a better leader because of it. That person knows human nature (if he/she is a good enough leader) is not to blanketly agree/disagree.

I hope I've conveyed my thoughts of what true leader is. I guess another example is that you and I appear to be polar opposites in many of our views. A true leader would not try to CHANGE MY MIND and make me think like you. Rather, a true leader would make me WANT to work with you, would point out a way that you and I can work together IN SPITE OF our differences.

"in 2013 there was a net gain of about 194,000 construction jobs." Sounds great, eh? Divide that by 52 states (or it is 57?!) and 3730 construction jobs doesn't sound so great after all.

Granted, it's better than the addition of NO jobs, but those figures when not put in context of jobs/state can give you a false sense of security that things are better than they really are.

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nicomp 8 months ago from Ohio, USA

I'd love to comment but I'm laughing too hard. This should be listed under creative fiction. Well done.

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Gordan Zunar 8 months ago from New York

Nice work, I agree with everything said in this article except for the number 14. I don't think deporting illegal immigrants is a good thing (unless they've been convicted of a serious crime). If this is true, however, it would shut the Republicans' mouths ranting about Obama's immigration policy. Another thing, these people going on about Benghazi. They should really go back to researching 9/11 instead.

teamrns 9 months ago

"The hostile Political environment is needed to keep those poor brainwashed Minions believing they are at WAR with fellow Americans (who they dehumanize and believe are not "real" Americans)."

The hostile political environment is NOT necessary because most of us AREN'T brainwashed. I don't feel I am at war with other Americans, though I'm told that becaause I'm white and our POTUS is black, I'm at war with him. Nope. Anyone who thinks that is wrong.

A war that is thought that I wage is on blacks, beause I have not, nor don't intend to join the BLM movement. Martin Luther King, who many feel the need to quote to justify their disobedience did say it was our duty (I think it was MLK), to protest. CIVIL AND PEACEFUL.

THe BLM movement is no sooner about peaceful protests..."Pigs in a blanket..." Civil" Peaceful? Blocking off traffic in SF on the bay bridge : doesn't win friends. The narrative becomes skewed. Downtown Chicago? I don't think so.

I'm also told that I wage war on women because I don't believe in abortion and I don't agree with paying for someone else's abortion (unless they've been raped, incested or as a matter of medical necessity) or all potential forms of birth control. For some reason that I have yet to figure out, I am waging war on women who believe in abortion or want birth control. I am a woman, yet I wage war on my own gender?

Elaine 9 months ago

Thank you for a great article.

fred 9 months ago

the stock market is as high as it is due to overvaluation of stocks since 2009. The Dow is in a a bubble. The soar in market is not due to Wash policuy in my opinin.

stan 9 months ago

I bet if you went to a Conservative website you could get facts to show these facts are not so correct. Why not find a site that is neither left or right wing and let them do the checking. This guy just too the SOTUS from last night and used it. Like one person said earlier you can always manipulate numbers to make you look good. It has been done for years by many businesses to make them look good when they are doing bad.

Ed A 9 months ago

Common sense- If more people are employed now, why then do we have more people on welfare?

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Kathleen Cochran 9 months ago from Atlanta, Georgia

Jeff: Do you realize you are living in the Post-Fact Era? People not only choose the opinions they like today, they also choose the facts they like. Congratulations on the effort you have made here, but the responses prove you can't win an argument with facts any more. You win an argument by telling people what they already believe to be true - in spite of the facts.

Patriot 9 months ago

Wow...where does one begin commenting about the inaccuracies in this article...nice way of saying BS;-) I'll list merely one off the top of my head: Unemployment rate ...5%...really? Has this author heard of the different types of Unemployment measurements? U-1 may be at 5% but the more accurate U-3 indicates higher than 10%; I suspect the author knows this but because it doesn't fit his narrative of covering for "our dear leader" he ignores it. There are other things which could be written, but I have better things to do at the moment than try to correct a fool;-)

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jeff61b 9 months ago Author

Sandidad –

Aside from protected wildlife areas, Obama has not refused to allow drilling on federal lands. That is a myth. The Keystone pipeline would not lower gas prices since its only purpose is to pump oil to New Orleans to be shipped out of country (the oil companies admit this).

But leave it up to conservatives to decide that lower oil prices are a bad thing.

Shauna Dickerson –

Do you understand the difference between the debt and the deficit? The deficit that Obama inherited in 2009 was $1.4 trillion per year. It is now down to about $300 billion per year.

Oh, and the debt has not doubled during his presidency. It has gone from about $11 trillion to $18 trillion.

Joanne Murray –

The economy just added 292,000 jobs last month, mostly full-time jobs and largely professional or office jobs.

Health care and prescription drug costs were rising rapidly long before Obama came to office.

Wondercat –

I have links throughout the article so you can check the sources yourself.

Shauna Dickerson 9 months ago

How can the debt double in the years of his presidency, but at the same time you say he has cut the deficit. Does not compute.

Joanne Murray 9 months ago

I don't believe much of it all. You can prove anything by manipulating the statistics. He artificially propped up the stock market which improved the numbers there. People have had foreclosures on their homes, can't afford the ACA; full-time jobs have gone to part-time, etc. Obama is a master manipulator of statistics. I, personally, have not had a raise in my SSA in two years now, my healthcare cost and prescription drug costs are both double, my investments are producing less, just to state a few things. I've also noticed a decrease in the quality of products as a result of industry having to cut costs to maintain their product lines. Many relevant factors were omitted from the analyses in calculating the data. As i said above, you can manipulate statistics to prove almost anything.

Ben 9 months ago

A crock! Somebody has twisted fact with fiction. Any positives that came out of this administration you may be assured, Obama had nothing to do with it.

Wondercat 9 months ago

My comment is simple. Where did you get your statistics? Seems a bit one sided.

Thomas T Panto 9 months ago

The foreign corporate owners of our time, labor, money, lives , country, weapons, media, republican religion and using our children to carry weapons to their operations overseas, MUST LIE or we would hang them all for treason.

Carl 9 months ago

Seems a little ironic that Democrats like your article, and Republicans dislike it. That is our everyday politics, and I believe the reason we have such a mess in our Government. It's easy to identify each party as you read their responses. The Author of this article is clearly a Democrat. I would wager to say that a Republican can identify as many, if not more, failures of our Democrat President. He is our President and should be respected by all. Wake up America

Lesley 9 months ago

Every American should read the book Bull's Bears and the Ballot Box written by Bob Deitrick and Lew GoldFarb.

A book that takes 80 years of our Nations Presidents and tells you which political party has been best for our wallets and economy. A great, short read.

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jeff61b 9 months ago Author


The deficit for the year 2009 is entirely attributable to George W. Bush. The government appropriates money for a given year in the previous year. So $1.4 trillion of the 8 trillion you attribute to Obama was actually spent by Bush.

Also, that debt did grow a lot during Obama’s presidency because millions of people were put out of work by the Bush Economic Depression. This means the loss of trillions of dollars in tax revenue caused that deficit, not increased spending. During his presidency, Obama has increased spending far less than Reagan, Bush or Bush did.

Obama has reduced the annual budget deficit he inherited by 80% and it is still dropping. The national debt will not double on Obama's watch.

Insurance companies look for any reason to increase premiums. Premiums were increased at a faster rate before The Affordable Care Act was passed. There is nothing in the ACA that causes premiums to rise faster.

JAA 9 months ago

Look at the National Debt Clock . . . from the inception of tracking the National Debt decades ago to the debt amassed on Obama's Inauguration Day of Jan. 20th, 2009, our Country had racked up a total debt of $10,626,877,048,913.08. Five minutes ago when I checked it, it stood at 18,846,077,245,055.05. Over eight trillion dollars in new debt amassed by only one President; not quite, but almost doubling the national debt from all other Presidents combined. By the time he leaves office it will have more than doubled from when he took office. And how is this for a pesky fact in response to your #11 . . . our private health insurance premiums have increased 100% in the past four years. The premium went from $745 a month four years ago to $1,450 a month back in October. And this was with no claims in the past three plus years. When we called to confront a BC/BS representative about these ridiculous increases, the representative stated that these increases were above-and-beyond planned incremental increases and were due to unplanned increases brought about by the Affordable Care Act.

Carol 9 months ago

Is it true that (only) 2% of the people in this country make over $400,000 per year? That would be 2 out of every 100 people. That is a lot of pretty wealthy people!

JZ 9 months ago

The inability to work with Congress, Sequestration and the worst recession in our lifetime are responsible for the majority of your points. ACA hasn't been around long enough to measure impact. I'm curious how people will feel when they get penalized on their taxes for not having health insurance. Troop numbers should be credited to Bush and not Obama, those policies were in place prior to 2008. Smoke and mirrors, smoke and mirrors.

ralph moore 9 months ago

I have conversations with Republican's and they have no quality honest answer's to these figures. They just get upset and start quoting Fox news lies!

Clarence Jackson Jr 9 months ago

All I have to say is: "I knew I voted for the right person!" Way to go President Obama!

Terry.M. 9 months ago

A Muslim terrorist sympathizer is your house done a great job and not allowing Indian tax on American soil so I don't understand how he's a sympathizer. I do believe however the facts are straight in a lot of great things for the American people. After some research I think you will find the numbers are legit. And I bet it for that was not an Obama fan. But he has done more for this country than most presidents have previously. From cutting government spending to not allow insurance companies to rip us off . Agitated and many many impressive things in my eyes. Being friends is not an easy job. Presidents change and make history. He sure has not hurt us any. Take out the rumors and look at the facts. I'll have to say well done Obama.

Leompwei Roiie 10 months ago

Excellent article, but I couldn't locate the author. Who is the author?

dirtyjuice 10 months ago

Good article Jeff, people just don't want to look into all the sources you put out there yourself and only choose to believe what they hear and read from sources that support their bias. I think that's the major thing wrong with politics nowadays where people just want to believe the first articles they read without following up or fact checking themselves.

People if you want to disprove this article then go out and find the contrary facts yourself and post them here. There are 8000~ characters to articulate yourselves as to why he's "wrong". Until you do that, you're just a mindless parrot, repeating other people's words with no idea what they mean.

"Obama is the worst president ever" is a shitty meme.

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jeff61b 10 months ago Author

Janet Clayton –

So what you are saying is that facts don’t matter, truth doesn’t matter, statistics don’t matter. The only thing that matters is your falsely contrived claim that Obama is a Muslim terrorist sympathizer despite all evidence to the contrary.

Janet Clayton 10 months ago

Numbers do not impress me...whatever he did right has been negated tenfold due to him being a muslim terrorist sympathizer one feels safe anymore and i hold him totally responsible...

Alasondro Linney 10 months ago

This was such a great article and all the facts come from very true reliable sources it is amazing to me that these people on the right just refuse to want to give this president the credit he deserves from day one ever sense this president got in the office the right has done nothing but miss construe lie refuse to look at True facts I wonder if the shoe was on the other foot what would their reaction be hmmm? That's OK the same sources that have told the truth about this president the same people who are filled with hate Will you still sane sources for their own points Regardless of what these people have to say history will approve this as being one of the best presidents in American history and there is nothing that the right can do to dispute that or keep the truth from being told I'm sure I will get attacked and it will be something like this " you haven't stated not one fact just bs" lol! Love this president the right just hate true facts

Tony 10 months ago

Any one smell smoke? I think they are using smoke and mirrors for these numbers cooking the books.

Jennifer 10 months ago

When you have to point out the so-called good things that a president or anyone for that matter have done there obviously is something wrong with that. The "gentleman" doth protest too much.... Shouldn't we be able to see the good things? The things mentioned here are just not true. I don't see the nation being better off than they were eight years ago.

He works hard at one thing, dividing and weakening the country. His legacy will be total crap.

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jeff61b 11 months ago Author

Geliassen -

You ask "what was Benghazi?" The fact is attacks on embassies and consulates occur under EVERY president. There were 13 Benghazi's during G. W. Bush's presidency with about 60 fatalities but nobody chose to politicize those tragedies.

We have had no attacks on US soil comparable to what we suffered under President Bush. We remain far safer under this president than we were under Bush.

Geliassen 11 months ago

No attacks under BO's watch???what was Benghazi?? Childs play??? Just because he was in hiding and had is bozo's lying for him does not mean it did not happen. He loves the power, traveling and golf, obviously and couldn't care less about our country,

carole mckinzie 11 months ago

great article. agree with all of it......

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jeff61b 11 months ago Author

Lewis -

Sorry you didn't like the article. I guess facts have a liberal bias, just like math.

I loved your comment but why stop there? In addition to being the leader of ISIS, why not accuse Obama of being a Nazi, a communist, a Zionist, a Mafia leader, the Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan and the Antichrist?

Lewis England 11 months ago

This is all lies OBAMA Intends to destroy America he was and is and always will be a Traitor to our country In fact I believe that Obama is the head of ISIS and intends to be the ruler of the world .

Elizabeth 11 months ago

Most of these economic improvements have been accomplished by Republican Governors. Most of them have had to fight Obama tooth and nail to accomplish these things.

Mike 11 months ago

Send this article to Sean Hannity.

AndrewG 11 months ago

Well, the problems I see here are common among center-left pro-Obama perspectives on the president's record. I'm glad the author highlighted Obamacare (a real winner, you can ignore the conservative fear-mongering) but the other elements of Obama's record are way more problematic.

1. and 2. "We've now had 65 straight months of economic expansion" and "We are currently enjoying the longest period of private sector job creation in American history."

Yes, but that's because the recovery has been historically slow. Growth during this time is well below what we got used to during the postwar era. And prime-age employment is in terrible shape - well below where it should be:

3. "Unemployment has dropped from 10.1% in October of 2009 to 5.4% by Spring of 2015."

That took six years and we're still not at full employment. When was the last time that happened?

5. and 6. "The Federal budget deficit is shrinking. It’s been reduced by two-thirds since 2009." and "Under President Obama, government spending has increased only 3.3% annually, the lowest rate since Eisenhower was president."

This is a bad thing, not a good thing. Public sector growth has been slower than previous presidential administrations, subtracting a source of growth and jobs when comparing across business cycles:

This is American austerity, and while it's not as bad as what we have in Europe, it's still hurting growth.

At the federal level, this is mostly the fault of congressional Republicans, who often won't pass even the most routine and necessary spending bills.

12. "We currently have fewer soldiers, sailors, and airmen in war zones than we did at any time in the last 11 years"

The part that gets me is "the last 11 years" (pointing to 2004, the year after the start of the Iraq War). When you're implicitly comparing Obama's foreign policy with that of Bush 43, you're setting your standards pretty low. And did you notice that we're back in Iraq? Notice that we're still bombing hospitals in Afghanistan?

13. "There have been zero successful attacks by al Qaeda on US soil since Obama became president."

Al Qaeda attacks on US soil:

Clinton: 1 (well, they weren't called Al Qaeda back then)

Bush 43: 1

Obama: 0

What a record.

14. "We now successfully catch and deport more illegal immigrants than ever before."

Do you really think this is a good thing? A cruel policy of hunting down economic migrants and sending them back home to poverty?

There is a lot to appreciate when it comes to Obama's presidency, but let's not sugarcoat things. It's not that Obama's presidency was an unmitigated success, it's that it's amazing things aren't worse.

Sirrastus Bear 11 months ago

Some of these posts are clueless.Yes there are more people in poverty and on welfare and food stampsthat work-simply because the GOP has refused to raise the min wage and if the min wage stayed the same then more people who work will end up under the poverty level in upcoming years regardless of who the POTUS is.That's just math..We have gained almost 14,000 new jobs since Jan 2010,the longest growth since the 90's and last year was the best since the 90's.Apparently just spouting numbers without context is a trademark of some on the Right.

Sirrastus Bear 11 months ago

Vette from Vermont-You're missing two things.The ACA is now affordable to many people simply because of the subsidies.Plus there have been major improvements in the law.Second-Obama was sued by Lobbyists who won their case.

sage 11 months ago

he also is a very caring president and attended nearly all events where there was destruction by the elements or by guns killing people. He is a real family man with sound morals

Damien 11 months ago

All things aside, this is an insightful article and it shows that the man is trying to do a good job with whatever little support and resources he has at his disposable. He has earned my respect and gratitude.

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Sgt Prepper 12 months ago from Elkhorn, WI

It is just a crying shame our first "black president" wasn't birther Alan Keyes or Seventh-Day-Adventist Dr. Carson. Even Colin Powell would have been better than this monster.

Vette from Fremont 13 months ago

While I agree Obama has been successful in doing things his way and the majority of his successes have been in the best interest of the "People" he failed on two notes 1. Health care - yes everyone is eligible for healthcare, but at what cost, the level and quality of our healthcare has declined since ACA. Also when Obama was pushing his plan, he stood on his platform and told us that "All you folks will have the same health care that we, me and the congress have. NOT TRUE!!! We may have healthcare but not the same as congress or the president.

2 Obama when he was running for office said he would abolish lobbyists again that has not happened.

Not saying he has been a bad president just saying he missed the mark on these two points which he promised he would deliver if he were elected president. No one is perfect and running for public office is expensive not to mention dirty so any of you previous postsers want to run for president? I keep saying KNOW WHO YOU ARE VOTING FOR and if you vote for them, when they change their platform let them know you are not in favor and they can be VOTED, Impeached, or otherwise removed from office. The entire congress should be impeached for shutting down the government and for thinking of doing it again. Is it the water in Washington DC or the stale air in the houses of Congress that makes these people loose their minds?

Ltpar 13 months ago

Only one question. Are we living on the same planet?

Tony 13 months ago

First of all, I totally agree with you that Obama is a great president, if not the greatest in my lifetime of nearly 6 decades. When he took office, I thought him crazy to knowingly pick up the huge mess Bush left behind, some of which Bush created. And I know, some of the problems will not be resolved within 8 years, and Obama will get blamed for it.

There are a few details that I am not sure Obama can completely take credit for, such as the stock market run, which is more a phenomenon driven in large part by the Fed's monetary policies.

But what I want to raise with you, and all fellow supporters of Obama, is that the current political environment in the US is toxic, thanks to the fact twisting but well presented sound bites from the Conservatives. They appeal to the majority's laziness to do any fact checks, like you did so diligently. Instead, they create fear and emotions in people.

Look, it totally disappointed me that the US public would give bozos like Sarah Palin and Donald Trump any attention at all. They kept putting their foot in theIR mouths, and people still support them.

Here is the biggest failing of Obama, and all of us who support him: he didn't tout his own horn with simple sound bites that connects with the emotions of the conservative public. He had done well in his campaign. He has done well on some occasions, like equal marriage. But generally he seems to have been way too gentlemanly. Two simple examples, the claim that he's not an American, or he's a Muslim should never have stuck and drove fears in the conservatives had Obama struck them down aggressively. These are points that we supporters might think too stupid. But for the irrational people, these lies make them distrustful of Obama. Same thing with the ACA. I for one cam testify that thanks to ACA, I can buy insurance again. Before, my past and chronic medical conditions will have been excluded from coverage for the rest of my life.

So like my long winded response to you, we all need to work on quick, emotionally charged sound bites.

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Jean Bakula 13 months ago from New Jersey

Hi Jeff,

It's amazing what lengths some people will go to in order to discredit President Obama. He's a cautious person who plugs away at problems, no matter how little Congress does, and most of the time gets his way for the people anyway. It's not his fault the do nothing Congress shies away from making any decisions. Now as we face another Presidential election, it's obvious the R's don't have any ideas to fix our problems, other than to oppose whatever Obama did. That's not a solution. I doubt the R's will ever win an election again, unless they start living in the 21st century.

I believe that when R's starting calling programs like Medicare and Social Security Entitlements, the D's should have fought them more. These are all programs I had money taken out of my paycheck all my working life to support. And when people work hard, that's not an "entitlement." It's the system America set up to help pay medical bills and help save for retirement.

Daav 14 months ago

You and I agree on the so-called Patriot Act — but we disagree on the ACA and the concept of personal freedom. Dunno how you define personal freedom, but gov't forcing all Americans to sign up and pay a fee/tax for the ACA doesn't fit my definition — at all. And do you really believe it "is no longer true" that taxpayers don't "pick up the tab" for the hc of others? Nothing as expensive as "free".

You must be aware that there are a lot of folks that can't afford the rise in premiums, nor can they afford to seek hc treatment now — the ACA is misnamed — NOT affordable — fewer, not more, people receive hc than before the ACA.

If I may, I should like to take your 14 points one at a time:

(1) BO was responsible for #4 and 8?

(One of the half-lies, in that they are misleading.)

#4. The stock market continues to set new record highs since President Obama took office.

#8. Dependence on foreign oil has shrunk due to record domestic oil production and improved fuel efficiency standards.

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jeff61b 14 months ago Author

daav -

Yes I support the Bill of Rights.

I believe most all of President Obama's policies protect personal freedom.

The Affordable Care Act, for example, greatly increases personal freedom. People now have more choices about where they get their health insurance. Millions more people have greater access to health care. Fewer people have to worry about going bankrupt due to catastrophic illness. Insurance companies can no longer drop you when you get seriously ill.

Before the Affordable Care Act, you and I had to pick up the tab for uninsured people who got emergency medical treatment. Now that is no longer true. Those people are much more likely to have health insurance now.

I still don't like all the provisions of the Patriot Act and the domestic intelligence gathering but I think some of the more extreme measures from the Bush administration have been lifted somewhat.

Verdant 14 months ago

I LOVE OUR PRESIDENT. And I reckon that's about the most patriotic thing a person can say.

Daav 14 months ago

Objective facts and logic are what I have offered, but first, please answer the two questions I had most recently posted:

Jeff61b — You imply that you are in favor of personal freedom:

1) Do you support the Bill of Rights?

2) Which of BO's policies protect personal freedom?

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jeff61b 14 months ago Author

Daav -

There is no substance to any of your comments. You simply say these facts are not true but you offer no sources or objective facts to dispute them.

You claim the sources for this article are in the tank for Obama? I’m quite sure Forbes, the Washington Post, Dow Jones, Gallup Poll and the Wall Street Journal are not pro-Obama publications.

None of these facts in this article are disputed. This is all common knowledge which you can easily verify for yourself from multiple sources.

Daav 14 months ago

Jeff61b — You imply that you are in favor of personal freedom, so I'm curious:

1) Do you support the Bill of Rights?

2) Which of BO's policies protect personal freedom?

daav 14 months ago

BO said, "If you like your doctor [or insurance], you can keep him, period." -- the 14 above are statements that BO has also made, with the same amount of validity.

These (5,6,7,10,11) are the biggest, most obvious lies of the 14 -- a moment's reflection is all that is necessary.

Then we have the half-lies, in that they are misleading.

BO was responsible for #4 and 8? Laughable.

#1,2,3 are easy: from the lows of the 2008 crash (caused by the CRA) -- to the extent we still have a free market economy, that was inevitable, but BO did what he could to interfere with it.

#12 -- BO tried to start another war, but couldn't get any support for it.

#13 -- BO has simply renamed the successful ones workplace violence, etc. Private citizens have stopped attempts, does BO get credit for that?

#14 -- Even if that WERE true, who would that impress? Trump supporters?

Most (if not all) were sources in the tank for BO (NBC, etc), so how could anybody believe them?

Scott 14 months ago

I'm Canadian and I'm happy to see the resurgence of the American economy, mostly due to the fact that you affect everyone else's when it goes bad. As an American if you cannot see the good that has come from his presidency you need to go back to school or not be apart of the electoral process at all. Republicans are complete and total morons and care nothing about the citizens and only about their wallet. The Bushes were the dirtiest and worst presidents ever and lined their pockets and all their buddies pockets during their awful terms. Bush put the country into a depression that affected the global economy, with some countries still not even close to recovery. They angered so many other countries they attacked your own backyard, he rigged an election to get back in and you all allowed this. The fact that after 6 months of seeing either of these idiots in power and you did not impeach is unbelievable. You have to understand as a person sitting back and watching your country, it is absolutely embarrassing to see the things that go on and the mass stupidity that comes from your electoral process every year. Billions spent in advertising, the Koch brothers fiasco, 15 people running for the electoral vote on the republican side, the fact that actors win governor rolls, trump is actually doing well, I could go forever. Imagine the good he could have done, if the idiots on the other side did not have the ability to stop him. Voting in a republican ever again is the stupidest thing you could ever do as a country and it is on you if it happens. I actually think Bernie Saunders would be an excellent choice as well. Before you start with all the hate mail, remember this. Even with all the crap Bush did to screw up the global economy to make all his and his dads buddies richer, Canada was one of the strongest economies through the depression and is still chugging along just fine. Politics is never perfect, but we at least do not treat it like a circus show and we hold our guys accountable. Oh yeah and we don't have people attacking us, because we don't go over to other countries to steal their resources.

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jeff61b 14 months ago Author

teamrn –

It’s not just that I disagree with conservatives politically; over the past 15 years I see them doing far more harm than good in every aspect of governing. You name it, (the economy, crime, defense spending, terrorism, the budget deficit, healthcare, personal freedom, etc.), conservatives have only made things worse.

Liberals have their flaws as well but they have not worked to intentionally harm the American people just to win the next election as conservatives have done.

There was a time when liberals and conservatives could disagree but still work together for the good of the American people. That came to a screeching halt on January 20, 2009. Conservatives completely rejected the word “compromise” and vowed to oppose everything President Obama supports – even when he takes Republican ideas and supports them just to get something done. Republicans suddenly label those as “socialist” ideas and oppose their own ideas because Obama supports them.

Garry 14 months ago

What an incredible President! How does he do it? And against such odds? I never expected to see a performance like this out of anyone.

It's kind of funny, the silly things people post here. One poster said "this country's in the worst shape it's ever been, just look out your window." Well, I just did and I see about about 20 or 30 huge new construction projects here, I see lots of new cars, including American cars, I see four of five brand new restaurants making tons of money, I've got one friend making over 100k, another making 250, I see white people, black people, Asian people, all getting along just fine...looks pretty darn good to me! I guess a lot of people just say anything that pops into their pointy little heads.

Stephen 14 months ago

This is the one that i have the biggest problem with. America may not have been attacked by al queda. But there are other groups that rose to power in its absense. Most noteably, ISIS. ISIS has already claimed responsibilty for multiple terrorist attacks in the united states. They have issued statements about having 71 trained personel within our borders. They have already attacked military instalations, during one of which, they killed 5 servicemen. So don't you dare say that we are safer from terrorism than we have ever been because it's still happening. And the people that are in the crosshairs are those people that I call friends.

teamrn 14 months ago

"You've already done far more to discredit conservatives than I could ever hope to do. Thanks again."

Jeff, you are so bound and determined to 'discredit' conservatives EVERY, I mean EVERY opportunity that you get. Is that your way of saying that there is not ONE THING that conservatives have accomplished that is worth a hill of beans? Not a thing.

I guess we've been told.

Jon 14 months ago

What about the National Debt of 18 Trillion Dollars ?

Linda m Johnson 14 months ago

he will go down in history go down in history as one of the most famous and best president ever I think he's done a spectacular job and I love President Obama and I wish that he could run one more term we need to change the laws so that the president can run more than 2 terms when we have one that's done such a good job he's still got work that needs to be done wish we had more time

Dave 14 months ago

You make some good points here, but please police your graphics more carefully. It undermines your credibility to state that government spending has increased by the smallest percentage per year since Eisenhower but then have a graphic stating "What has Decreased? Government Spending."

BS.Sniffer 14 months ago

It seems appropriate that filibuster is the Dutch word for pirate. Because one of the most entrenched assumptions about the filibuster—that it thwarts majority rule. When you tally the numbers, it turns out that the filibuster has often served to enforce majority rule in recent years, not to undermine it. Instead of abolishing the filibuster, we should try to curb its undemocratic excesses while preserving its role as a democratic check.

Now, as to why the Republicans used it so often as of recent is clearly because the democrats have been slipping things in the bills at the last minute. Not that Republicans don't do that, because they are both dishonest, but the Democrats have been doing this at an alarming rate. Pushing some other agenda. Why is this even a practice. It seems to me it ought to be criminal. I think it's the biggest reason Congress can't agree anymore.

Tkash 14 months ago

I will start by saying I was predominantly a Republican voter. I am not pro Dem, but I am no longer pro GOP. I have witnessed personally irresponsible politics from the GOP. Deliberate attacks on workers rights through legislation. This legislation would have affected me personally if it weren't rejected in a future repeal. This is a disgraceful irresponsible abuse of power. Our politicians should strive to better We The People not the personnel agenda of the GOP, nor that of campaign contributors. Every negative thing that has happened to me personally has been from GOP policy.

No policy the president has implemented has affected me negatively nor positively.

I would like to know how consumer costs is related to the president? Common sense leads me to believe that those that make the product set the price.

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Danny Mittleman 14 months ago

BCulotti, all your response does is make you look ignorant and degrade arguments from what I presume to be your point of view.

The essay offers citations for every "fact" stated. If you want to assert they aren't facts, then go through them one by one and explain why each isn't and why the source provided is incorrect.

Otherwise, you not only don't add to the conversation, you detract from it.

joe 14 months ago

as a canadian...i watch all this from the outside..and most of you sound ridiculous. Everytime you have a Democrat president, your dollar goes up. and everytime you have a republican president, your dollar goes down. no need for links or charts, or backup..its just a straight fact. The economy in America and thus the dollar is as strong as it was for clinton. Bush came in, screwed everything up...its taken Obama 8 years, but he's slowly bringing it back. Sadly, you'll likely vote another republican into office which will screw everything up again...i really do wonder what 16 years of a Democratic presidency would do for your country. Probably put you back on top, to be honest.

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jeff61b 14 months ago Author

Teamrn -

Republicans who run Congress simply aren't passing many bills for the presdent to sign. It's a matter of record that since the GOP took over the House in 2011 they set records for fewest bills passed.

Obama has seldom ever vetoed anything in his presidency because little ever makes it to his desk.

From day one Republicans decided to filibuster everything. As few as 41 senators can prevent anything from coming up for a vote even if the other 59 senators want to vote yes.

Democrats proposed a bill to take tax incentives away from companies for outsourcing jobs to other countries. Republicans killed it with the filibuster.

Dems proposed the American Jobs Act to put 2 - 3 million people back to work. Reps killed it with the filibuster.

Obama has tried to use executve authority to help the economy but the president has limited power in these areas. And Republicans excoriate him as a "dictator" on those occasions when he does.

Congress has the real power in Washington and if 41 Senators dont want to see anything get better then nothing will get better. They used the filibuster a record 505 times in 6 years. That is why progress has been so slow.

Republicans ran in 2010 on the promise of "jobs jobs jobs" but they've done nothing to create jobs in 5 years other tham propose tax cuts for the rich.

Obama hasnt been vetoing these bills, Republicans just aren't passing anything.

Obama has even taken Republican ideas and proposed them for legislation and Republicans filibustered those too. Suddenly, the moment Obama embraces a Republican idea, Republicans call it "socialism".

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teamrn 14 months ago from Chicago

Jeff, You seem to think I'm pointing the finger of blame for everything at Barack Obama and liberals and that I feel that nothing bad ever happened before to bring us to this point. Au contraire. I'm simply saying he has done little to solve the problems we face.

We both agree that outsourcing of jobs is a decades-old phenomenon. What has been done about this problem in the last 6 years?

We're both in agreement that the labor participation rate has decreased, something not Barack Obama's fault. But, I know you'll tell me who's 'FAULT' it is. But, what has Barack Obama done to increase that rate? Creating "millions of 'shovel-ready' jobs that weren't as "shovel-ready as we thought" and then laughing about it isn't leadership, it's management or court jester crap.

About the Labor Participation Rate; it has been going down. There are peaks and valleys but more valleys, BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHO CAN FIND A JOB have to spend their golden years schlepping groceries at Walmart until they're 75 and look every bit the part of an 87 year-old. There are actually many reasons for the peaks and valleys.

But they also work to provide some income for their children or to give the grandchildren Christmas presents (Mommy and Daddy can't afford them, on no income). This shows the good in their hearts, but will the children have the economic means and fortitude to be able to care for them when their parents become ill due to overwork? Surely, Mr. Obama knows of this kind of thing happening in his own back yard. My question is, what has he done to try to stop this cycle?

I hear that he's created millions of jobs. That is wonderful. Millions. 1, 2, 5, 7 ? Let's assume that he's created 5 million jobs in the past 6 years. Pretty impressive stuff-until you do the math. That's only 1388 jobs/month/state; depending on the statehood count you employ. Never mind, I always thought my DOG was a year older than she was.

Also, it doesn't help that the jobs created are largely part-time, lower paying jobs. Nobody can be perfect and there is no perfect solution to solving the problem, but the presidency is not a part-time job, a job for the JV squad or on-the-job-training and a manual doesn't come when you swear the oath;

He, not you or me asked for the privilege of leading this country to solve this country's problems. To try to solve them would satisfy me, but I submit, he's been a dismal failure by most metrics and to hold a Republican Congress accountable for his failure when it is their job to do their best to advance their agenda when they can is such a cop-out of major proportions.

It takes 2 to tango and the POTUS can lead by example. That said, things probably would resolve much more harmoniously if the two branches of government worked together to solve the problems of the country. But this is where leadership is involved. The legislature; that's management; upper management on steroids and w/ Lear jots! but mind you, it's management. The executive branch; why those players are the high rollers and are in it for the long haul. THEY'RE LEADERS.

But the leader of THESE LEADERS sets the tone of the day. He is the person we call THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

He can take out his pen and veto the legislation they've taken months to prepare and get to his desk. They're supposed to submit legislation through channels and they diligently do. But the leader has the ability to write executive orders which are law until rescinded. So he can do LOTS OF THINGS WITHOUT THE HELP OF CONGRESS. He can even, and has, gone off on a tear when someone doesn't agree that his road is the right road-like a petulant child.

You talk about my not providing policies that President Obama initiated which resulted in the decreased Labor Participation Rate. I didn't and don't intend to. But this is another trend that he has not identified as problematic and then proceeded to do something about.

I am curious about something that you said about the economy possibly recovering faster had the opposing party not tried to outsource jobs-what was the bill and how did they not try to create jobs?

NancyCh 14 months ago

11. Since passage of the Affordable Care Act, we are seeing the slowest rate of increase in healthcare costs since 1960.

Our monthly premiums have increased from $1500 per month 5 years ago to $2100 per month today. Our premiums have NEVER increased so rapidly!!


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jeff61b 14 months ago Author

Teamrn –

The labor participation rate has been going down due to a lot of trends that started long before Obama became president. Outsourcing of jobs to other countries, automation, keeping wages low to maximize profits, etc. It’s also true that retired Americans are living longer while millions of baby boomers are leaving the workforce because they are reaching retirement age now. The people who started contributing to their 401Ks 30 years ago are starting to retire now. And thanks to Obamacare, millions more have found that they don’t need to stay in a job they hate just to keep their health insurance.

You haven’t seemed to offer much evidence that the lower labor participation rate is somehow attributable to any policies of President Obama.

The president can do nothing without the help of Congress. I have seen this president ask, request, cajole, beg and plead that Congress work with him to create more jobs. I have seen him craft bills with member of Congress to create jobs that Republicans refused to even allow to come up for a vote.

The economy would no doubt recover faster if the opposing party had not worked to thwart every attempt to create more jobs and keep jobs from being outsourced.

Despite their best efforts, however, we still have added millions more jobs and the unemployment rate – no matter which one you choose to use – is going down, with no help whatsoever from Republicans.

teamrn 14 months ago

Jeff, I'm not discussing the merits of President Obama's tenure or of his 'performance' as the POTUS. It could be anyone who is presiding-I DON'T CARE. If any comments I may make are aimed at DISCUSSION that you don't deem necessary or germaine to your readers, leave incendiary remarks out and don't publish them, but I'd appreciate that the general content of my response covered."

"10.45% is dismal. Again, compared to other presidents, Obama is doing extraordinarily well." I am not comparing Obama to other presidents, though it seems that you want me to, to pick a fight or something. It just is a undeniable FACT that the Labor Participation Rate is down from 10 years ago, and THAT, my friend does NOT translate into MORE jobs.

First, wrap your head around this concept: FEWER PEOPLE WORKING. Spend a moment or two grasping that concept.

Now introduce another concept. If fewer people work, the unemployment rate has to be GREATER. Yes, there are variables (like people who may not be looking, or people who work part time), but generally speaking, when FEWER PEOPLE WORK, (labor participation rate) , the UNEMPLOYMENT RATE GOES UP.

We have lived with an unemployment rate that does not go down for to long. Sure, some people are getting jobs (but the economy is SLOW to recover.). Recovering, hm...That 2,00,000,000 jobs per year only translates into 3333 jobs per state. We need more than that! As jobs are lost, they are replaced with Part Time ones which don't have to pay benefits.

How does 5 years without a job sound? What would you want your president to focus on if that were you? IF YOU HAD NO INCOME FOR 5 YEARS? Time for some serious thinking, right?

I should think given those circumstances that you'd want your president to concentrate on the economy which will move the engine of job creation and growth, instead of making a legacy for himself accompanying the flawed attempt at healthcare reform.


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jeff61b 14 months ago Author

Teamrn -

According to the Bureau of labor statistics, the U6 unemployment rate has dropped from 12.6% to 10.4% in the past year alone. That's a lot bigger drop than I even imagined.

Again, compared to other presidents, Obama is doing extraordinarily well.

JanetK 14 months ago

The reason we have fewer soldiers in danger zones is because he is demilitarizing us. No military = no soldiers in dangerous zones.

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teamrn 14 months ago from Chicago

Jeff, I'LL BE BACK!! I believe it was in your first response to me, "Now, because unemployment has improved a grest deal, you want to apply a different standard for this president." I believe that anyone who points out that there is more than one metric to measure unemployment figures is being given the old party line:

That they want to apply a different standard/metric to UE reporting so that Barack Obama's recovery(?) can be discredited. Unfortunately, that statement that you make does an incredible disservice to the person who reads HP.

That person likes to do so to gain some edification as to what the real difference is, how could people say that the Labor Participation Rate is down, when the UE rate is down? I would feel an obligation to the reader who wants to learn of the U6 figures, and what differentiates them from U1, 2, 3,-6 to teach them. Apparently the ball in your court seems to want to defend Mr. Obama at all costs, from an insult that was never hurled in the first place.

What was left out was that there are DIFFERENT WAYS OF RECORDING unemployment rates and the different indexes mean different things. There is no more callous disregard for any potential employment gains this president has made, but I do need to pose a question: If the Labor Participation Rate (THE PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING) is down , HOW IS the Unemployment Rate (THE PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE JOBS) down, too? Shoot me an answer to that simple question without invoking the 5th or that voodoo you do and let me know that, would you?

14 months ago

The numbers from are wrong. Go to the source,

and plug in dates.

Anybody that believes we have a deficit of $500 billion but the govt borrowed more than a trillion dollars could only be a progressive. We actually have no idea what the real debt/deficit is, because the govt has not been reporting it since March.

As for the rest of this nonsense: false in one, false in all. This is the worst president ever. Remember when dissent was the highest form of patriotism? Good times...

Grant 14 months ago

Janetk -

People are always only counted as unemployed, utilizing the official unemployment method, if they are currently receiving unemployment. At the end of Bush's presidency the unemployment number was 10.1% which also did NOT include people who were no longer receiving unemployment as well. Do you think the practice of not including people who are no longer on the roles just started? Do you think the first time anyone experienced long-term unemployment was under Obama?

In addition, since Bush's recession, two extensions to the standard unemployment benefits were put into place, Emergency Unemployment Compensation and Extended Benefits. And despite these extensions to unemployment benefits for the unemployed, which kept people ON THE ROLES, the unemployment number continued to steadily drop. The unemployment rate was dropping even though the long-term unemployed could still obtain unemployment benefits. This, again, illustrates that the Obama recovery was working, despite Republican interference. Had these extended benefits not been put into place, by your own theory, the unemployment rate would have dropped even faster. But the important thing is, they dropped, even though people continued to receive unemployment benefits beyond the standard 26 weeks.

The fact that the "official" unemployment number doesn't count people who have "fallen off the roles" is irrelevant when you are comparing unemployment numbers between two different time periods. What's important when comparing two different time periods is the utilization of a consistent standard of measurement. The calculation of Bush's 10.1% unemployment number used the same standard as the calculation of Obama's 5.4% unemployment. In both cases, yes, there were some who weren't counted as they had "fallen off the roles", but those discrepancies largely cancel each other out in the end.

Janetk 14 months ago

People are only counted as unemployed if they are getting unemployment. One way the government has reduced unemployment is to reduce the length of time people can get benefits. The people are still unemployed. They are just not counted.

Hragus 14 months ago

Nancy Hubert:The Journal of the American Medical Association has just released a report declaring the Affordable Care Act a rousing success, especially for minorities without healthcare. If there’s any proof that the Republican Party lives in a reality entirely of their own creation, where the truth is made up and facts don’t matter, it’s their reaction to the Obamacare program.

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teamrn 14 months ago from Chicago

HShneider. He hasn't improved my life at all. There are others who feel the same applies for the themselves and they don't see evidence in others.

Nancy Welliver Hulbert 14 months ago

Some of these people pretty much said what I wanted to say, take your numbers at face value, it doesn't work. Your article is more biased that factual. Only the ignorant will believe it because they won't do their research to see why numbers add up to this, is it because we cut this program to support the other? Lots of that you didn't say. OH and affordable healthcare act, you can NOT call it a success yet, the true mark of a successful business is 10 yrs down the road, there still are many people here in my state who can't get healthcare because they don't have the money and don't qualify for medicaid. One of your problems is you are going by a very small margin, not the whole picture.

Chip 15 months ago

Just imagine how things would have even been better had Republicans in Congress not tried to block nearly everything Obama tried to do.

higgink5 15 months ago

I would just like to point out that the unemployment statistic is not calculated based on the number of people filing for unemployment benefits as you are all saying that it is. Please read this, it is from the U.S. department of Labor.

David Driesen 15 months ago

President Obama is probably the best President of my lifetime and the facts you recite explain why. And remember that he inherited the worst economy since the depression, two wars, and an opposition determined to make him fail. One quibble thought. It's too much to say that we are not at risk of another financial collapse and that claim is not exactly factual, it's a prediction about the future. But Obama can share the blame for thought with just about every politician to the right of Bernie Sanders.

MDay 15 months ago

Access to health insurance doesn't guarantee access to health care. As a health care provider, current reimbursement with Obamacare plans doesn't cover my overhead, i.e. I lose money when I see these patients. I run a lean practice so don't tell me to trim my overhead. The 3 rd year of unemployment benefits granted by the current administration to those without a job is being paid for by cuts to healthcare providers in the year 2020 which means I get reimbursed less. Today only 5 out of 10 doctors will take new Medicare patients down from 7 out of 10, ten years ago. Only 3 out of 10 doctors will take new Medicaid patients down from 5 out of 10, ten years ago. Since Obamacare plans pay less, this will only get worse. Put yourself in the medical trenches before saying how much better we are with Obamacare.

kfm102 15 months ago

This is actually very comical lol. twisting numbers with few facts and not total factual evidence does make a failure look like he has done good for the economy, but like i said leaving out full facts and numbers only shows the true fools who are blinded by or just trying to lead the blind into false facts.

Grant 15 months ago

This recurring discussion U3 versus U6 unemployment figures is irrelevant in the context of what this article was communicating. Both unemployment figures spiked during the Bush recession and both have fallen dramatically during the Obama administration. Illustrating that unemployment has substantially dropped under Obama's watch was the point of #3 to begin with. Either measure demonstrates this fact.

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teamrn 15 months ago from Chicago

For Molly Middle:

"Where are all the people factored in who either have lost their benefits or were not able to draw in the first place?" Lost in the middle, also, in Chicago, Illinois.

Never had benefits in the first place, but married to a man who worked, lost his job, had benefits and now is no longer counted as unemployed (though he is still is) because he no longer draws unemployment benefits.; NOW BANKRUPT, but still looking for an honest dollar. We're represented by the U6 unemployment figures, not the politically exedient U3. If Jeff is half honest he'll relay that message

Jeff, that comment was not directed at you, but it was directed at Molly Middle from Chicago (from which I hail, also)

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jeff61b 15 months ago Author

teamrn -

Here is a news article you might find interesting.

It discusses the plans by Senate Republicans to unite 100% against everything President Obama wants to do.

“If he was for it,” former Ohio Senator George Voinovich explained, “we had to be against it."

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teamrn 15 months ago from Chicago

Speaking in generalities like that, you paint with such a broad brush that all GOP members sat down after coffee, the morning after; rather the NIGHT OF the election and said to each other, "Now, no matter what comes up and how many times they pentothal you, we're going to stick together as a little old boys club-even the women-and vote against EVERYTHING this scoundrel, no matter HOW good it is for our country it is." "That is the only way we can register our displeasure"

"So what if we look like horse's hind quarters and some of us have our eye on the prize of a GOP win in 2016, we're immature and want to show the voters that". This looking immature will also help my chances of winning a general election in 2016."

Now, did some of them do that, did some of them say what you acuse them of? Yes, they did and I think, I think Mitch Connell did and How ever it wasn't until after the healthcare summit in 2009 when Barack Obama (THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES) chastized previous rival about the outcome of the debates. If that is not a perfect examploe of "If we can't have it on my terms, I'm the big guy and I'll take my toys and go play in my own sandbox."Do, I have it on tape? No. Do you have anything more than the words splashed all over the headlines of papers and partisan media with a thrill up their leg for Barack Obama? That only amounts to what you call a substantial amout of hearsy.

Yes, Congress does have low ratings, but Congress is the HOUSE and the SENATE-combined. I'm sure that what many refer to as the DO NOTHING CONGRESS, are references to the GOP-controlled house, but there are just as many references to the same DO NOTHING Senate led by Harry NOT to vote or who to vote for.

I will find that article and post it here as a resource.

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jeff61b 15 months ago Author

Teamrn -

Unlike many of the people who comment here, I tend to avoid inflamatory language no matter what words you try to put in my mouth.

Senate Republicans didn't just oppose everything Obama supported, they didn't just vote against every bill, they used the Senate filibuster to prevent just about everything from even coming up for a vote.

They used the filibuster a record 505 times in 6 years. They killed bills that they previously supported - bills that weren't the least bit controvercial, some were bills that Republicans even co-sponsored.

This had nothing to do with ideological differences. Some GOP senators admit that from day one of Obama's presidency they had agreed to kill everything, just to prevent anything from getting done during his presidency.

This had never been done before in history.

The bills that Republicans tried to pass when they took control of the House, were mostly just to cut taxes for the rich, which they called "jobs bills" but they had nothing to do with creating jobs.

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teamrn 15 months ago from Chicago


Your statement that Republicans KILLED every jobs bill is unnecessarily inflammatory. It does not take into consideration the fact that they disagreed with the jobs bill and that is why they didn’t support it. Instead, they out and out KILLED it.

The outcome of that choice of words; is this: "those Republican heartless bas******s KILLED THE BILL that could have created a job for my father, the faterh or 7 of us who's wife is on disability and 2 children are special needs. Thoso heartlesss ******

.It doesn’t mention that that they did put forward bills (actually a series iof bills for VenwrEuna which would have created jobs; bills that Harry Reid did not allow to be debated in the Senate.An example is “The Hire More Heroes Act’ or HR 3474 which would create jobs for Vets and was passed with bipartisan support in the House. It could be said that the Dems KILLED that bill when Harry Reiddi didn't let it come up for a vote in the Senate. Yes, the majority leader is that powerful. He might have had a reason, but from what I see, he wanted to prevent that from coming up for a vote, or a probably some legit reason, the Dems didn’t support it.

#9 health insurance premium increase. It shouldn’t be that my premiums go up so much (300%) in one year that I have to ask my family for help., because pre-existing conditions aren’t covered; Well, yes, they are, by a stretch just like they used to be, but also at an astronomically higher cost for the coverage.Again, we were not told about that; we were just told about the pre-existing condition clause. That EVERYONE WOULD BE COVERED. WELL, EVERYONE can be covered; IF you afford it.

I didn’t claim to refute your facts, but I want people to know that; the whole story is not always told in one Hub.

FGroh 15 months ago

The people I know who bewail Mr. Obama’s presidency are not concerned about things as superficial as these 14 points. Even if we believe the numbers; even if we put aside how the numbers may be misleading (high market prices can signal bad times ahead; unemployment rates only measure people who have applied for unemployment benefits; balanced budgets don’t include off-budget items); even if we don’t think the numbers show us living in a fool’s paradise; even if we put aside the national debt, executive amnesty, Obama’s run around the Senate in appointing Berwick at Medicare, and the like—even aside from all this, there is a serious mistake with the article.

True, Americans vote for U.S. president they way they would vote for a dictator (“the right man to run the country”), but the president does not in fact spend his days issuing edicts that explain everything that’s going on. The president does not cause everything that happens in the country, good or bad. Far, very far from it.

Grant 15 months ago

Jeff -

I'm impressed you've kept it up as long as you have.

Grant 15 months ago

kmsdove -

While it may be true that the unemployment figures don't count every single unemployed person, it's also not feasible or rational to think that it's even possible to accurately count every single unemployed, working age adult, while excluding those who choose not to be employed (i.e. students, stay at home parents, etc...)

But the more salient point is that this was the same 10, 20, 30 years ago. In 2009, when unemployment was 10.1%, there were also unemployed people that no longer received unemployment compensation. But when you compare the rates between 2009 to 2015, a lot of those unreported unemployed cancel themselves out.

Despite not being 100% accurate, unemployment figures are still a valuable indicator of the nations economic health.

Grant 15 months ago

teamrn -

Jeff's point in noting the unemployment rate was to illustrate the improvement in the economy since Obama took office. It would be illogical to say the U3 unemployment rate in 2009 was 10.1% but the U6 unemployment rate now is 11.5%, illustrating things had gotten worse. You can't measure rates of change using two different standards.

If you want to use U6, then fine. The U6 unemployment in 2009 peaked at about 17.6% and by your own link is now at 10.5%. This still reinforces the assertion that unemployment under Obama has drastically improved following the Bush recession, despite any support from the Republicans in Congress on a jobs bill.

kmsdove 15 months ago

Unemployment figures come from individuals signed up for unemployment. This program is temporary. Just because individuals are no longer receiving unemployment compensation does not mean they are employed now. The measurement of unemployment does not represent the true unemployed.

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teamrn 15 months ago from Chicago

Jeff, the news media reports these figures every month and you're doing no more than echoing the news media; that makes it right? Why come to HP then.? But to discuss other truths and delve into areas where we think the news media may not print/report 'all the news that's fit to print!' Most of the people who come want a new twist, are looking for facts and ideas they've not been spoon-fed. and those same ideas which are home grown

I should hope your intent is to print after research 'the whole truth and nothing but the truth.' After research, one can't help but draw the conclusion that thee news media (left leaning) is cherry picking it's figures. A 5.3% unemployment rate; in and of itself, but only telling of part of the story which tells more like and 11.5 % U6 (depending on demographic).

This same 5.3 unemployment rate is put forward by the NYT, MSNBC and other MSM and every liberal pundit. This is cherry picking to support the argument that the economy has been improving as the POTUS says. THe answer is for you to use your God-given head to do your OWN creative thinking and not regurgitate what is reported in the news media. It is NOT a personal affront to you. EVERYTHING on the HP is not intended to be taken PERSONALLY.

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jeff61b 15 months ago Author

Teamrn -

Your last comment makes no sense.

I simply state facts about the actual unemployment rate, the same rate that is discussed in the news every month.

If the U6 had been the way people measured unemployment during the Reagan, Clinton or Bush years then people would have a frame of reference. But it wasn't.

Now, because unemployment has improved a grest deal, you want to apply a different standard for this president.

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teamrn 15 months ago from Chicago

"I am fully aware of the difference between the deficit and the debt. I’ve had to explain it to many people who’ve commented on this article. By reducing the deficit, we reduce the rate at which the debt grows." Doesn't seem to be working that way, does it? Deficit continues to decrease but DEBT increases. We're over $18 TRILLION in debt now. I'm sure you don't need a link to the National Debt Clock

Is there some reason you don't want to tell the COMPLETE story and not a version of it (difference between U3 and U6)? Neither are wrong, but U6 is more right.

I submit that your version of it doesn't support the whole truth and why. I sort of thought this was a place for mature, open discussion of facts and whole truths.

This is so typical of the 'If I can't have it my way, I'll take my toys and go play in my own sandbox' approach. Can't we all be friends and discuss?

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jeff61b 15 months ago Author

Teamrn –

#1 The trend toward lower paying jobs began long before Obama took office. Republicans in Congress have killed every attempt to improve wages, including raising the minimum wage.

#3 The article uses the same measurement for unemployment as has been used during other presidencies for many decades. Now curiously people want to use a different measurement.

#5 I am fully aware of the difference between the deficit and the debt. I’ve had to explain it to many people who’ve commented on this article. By reducing the deficit, we reduce the rate at which the debt grows.

#9 As I’ve explained repeatedly, health insurance premiums have been going up at an increasing pace for many years, long before Obamacare was passed. In many states, the rate of increase is slower now than it was before Obamacare.

I make no pretense that everything is spectacular or that this article is a comprehensive list of all facts surrounding the Obama years. The title makes it clear that this is simply a list of facts about the Obama presidency that most people either didn’t know or had forgotten.

You have presented some additional opinions and facts, but they do not refute any of the facts stated in this article.

Talavar 15 months ago

I find it amazing that we are still trying to defend Obama. You've all lost your minds. Our country is in the worst condition it's ever been. Just look out your window.

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teamrn 15 months ago from Chicago

Good Hub: a far as it goes: The numbers on my post will correspond to the paragraph # in your hub. By the way well written Hub, but, (and you knew there was a but coming, since I tend to look independently at things) and we’ve disagreed before

1 65 months of job growth. This is true according to Politifact ‘truth-o-meter.’ But, NOT reported is that the jobs created are lLOWER PAYING jobs; and so people need to ‘string together’ a job at Home Depot or bank teller with a part-time gig as a janitor. Nothing to be ashamed of, but pretty hard on a 55 year old body. The person is motivated to work and job retraining can be done; but all too often he is considered not qualified because he doesn’t have the EXPERIENCE as a bank teller or plumbing experience at Home Depot. Or, it is hard to prove, but all to often it is seen on his resume that he has executive experience; “why hire him, he’ll just leave the first chance he gets, and we invested many $$$ training him.”

#3. “Unemployment has dropped from 10.1% to 5.4%. “ Wonderful numbers, but not real. The 5.4% (now 5.3 %) counts only unemployed. PERIOD. However,more accurate is a count of people who are unemployed, underemployed (needing full-time employment, but having to ‘get by’ on a part-time income), no longer counted (because they no longer receive unemployment benefits-off the radar screen totally!): the U6 unemployment rate.

The U6 isn’t reported much by the media (because it is not politically expedient?). Both rates are reported by the Bureau of Labor Statistics and are a matter of public record. However, the U6 unemployment rate is more comprehensive and is (depending on where you’re located in the country and your demographic) averages around 10.1 5. In metropolitan areas or in some ethnicities, unemployment can be much higher, in fact, in California (one area) it was 23% and can be higher. So, the 5.3% represents the BEST CASE SCENARIO, on a good day. So, the 5.3 % isn’t accurate.

A good chart is at (chart A-15) is a good reference. The rate may be twice as high with inner city and ethnic minorities, occupation, age, location, union/non-union veteran, gender. An interesting article and pretty good charts were put together by the BLS, starting on but the more you read, the more interesting; it’s a REALLY good article please read

#5. Federal budget deficit is shrinking. Few dispute that fact. BUT THE DEBT has increased 70% according to as of January and it has not GONE DOWN You do know that there is a difference between the deficit and the debt, don’t you?

#9. Yes more Americans have h health insurance. However, the Americans who have health insurance are paying 30-100% more for their health insurance premiums. Personally I’ve not had care denied, but I know that that i n4ed to pay more (about 695 more) for my supermen because of pre-existing conditions. I know, we were sold on sold coverage for pre-existing condiions.

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jeff61b 15 months ago Author

Grant -

Thanks for responding so well to Cari's comment and posting links to your source information.

I get tired of the endless claims conservatives make and having to research them all before shooting them down.

Grant 15 months ago

jeff61b -

Well researched and well written. Thanks

Grant 15 months ago


It's not really clear in the article you linked to where Zuckerman got those numbers from, but that article was written in 2013. More recent numbers, and a look at the trends, show a very different picture. In 2014, the International Business Times illustrated that the number of people who said they were working part-time for lack of full-time employment continued to decline, from 7.27 to 7.1 million with full-time job creation outpacing part-time job creation.

And the Business Insider has a chart that illustrates the trend in part-time versus full-time jobs from before the recession until now, and it's pretty clear that the trend has been reversing ever since the end of the Great Recession. While it is true that we haven't reached pre-recession levels of part-time versus full-time jobs, the trend clearly indicates that we are steadily moving in that direction.

Both articles do state the reality that the pace of full-time/part-time job replacement has been slower than past recessions, which I would agree with, but as Jeff has pointed out numerous times, had the Republicans not scuttled every single jobs bill put forward, the recovery would likely have occurred much quicker. In fact, Mitt Romney said he would have allowed GM to fail, which would have cost this country another 1.5 million jobs.

Your insinuation that the ACA is the cause of this also doesn't make sense. The employer mandate didn't even kick in until this year, years after the spike in part-time employment creation. As the chart in the BI article illustrates, the spike in part-time employment happened long before passage of the ACA and many years before the implementation of the actual employer mandate. In addition, the employer mandate is based on Full-Time Equivalent employees, which includes part-time hours. So reducing a number of your staff to part-time doesn't free you from the mandate, as all of those part-time hours are lumped together to calculate the equivalent number of full-time employees. Reducing staff to part-time only buffers the your obligation, it doesn't eliminate it. And doing so would be foolish anyway, as it results in lower quality, less committed, less invested workers.

I live in Utah as well and I see all kinds of full-time jobs available here. Call centers are booming, and they can't get enough people in the door. And they're offering full-time, above minimum wage jobs with benefits. Not to mention, for a lot of them, you don't even need that much experience. On the professional side, the booming IT industry also can't get enough people. There are innumerable software and engineering full-time jobs available.

Just a brief real-life anecdote. My niece was looking for a job last year and applied at a number of places. When she got to a fast-food place downtown, they hired her on the spot. That's how desperate they were. Part-time, minimum wage. The next day, a call center called her up about her application, did a phone interview with her and the day after they offered her a job as well. Full-time, 10.25 and hour with a guaranteed raise after 6 months and benefits. She immediately quit the fast food place.

Organizations that are reducing their workforce to part-time to ward off the evils of Obamacare are shooting themselves in the foot. More and more full-time jobs are available every month and these companies are going to have an increasingly difficult time finding/keeping quality employees if all they offer is part-time work.

Cari 15 months ago

Mort Zuckerman, publisher of The Daily News, took a look at the jobs added most recently and discovered most of them are part time. Zuckerman notes that the US has added 753,000 jobs since the start of the year, according to the BLS’ Household survey, but that 557,000 of those have been part time. In the last month alone, the US economy lost 240,000 full-time jobs while adding 360,000 part-time jobs. The number of part-time jobs is now 28,059,000, three million more than at the start of the Great Recession.

“At this stage of an expansion you would expect the number of part-time jobs to be declining, as companies would be doing more full-time hiring,” Zuckerman wrote in The Wall Street Journal. “Not this time.” What makes this expansion different? The Journal answered that question in a separate report on the shift to part-time jobs, especially in the hospitality industry.

This is the biggest issue I have seen in utah, No one hires for more then 30 hours now... no matter what the job is.... So while it makes the numebrs look good the facts are... the jobs do NOT look good.

“The Affordable Care Act requires employers with 50 or more full-time equivalent workers to offer affordable insurance to employees working 30 or more hours a week or face fines.” The incentives set up by the ACA are pressing businesses to avoid opening full-time positions while encouraging them to offer fewer hours to workers as a way to avoid costs.

Wade 15 months ago

I don't need anything but my eyes and ears to notice More violent crime, more racial unrest, more homeless people, more people on welfare programs, more people in the USA that hate the USA. Loss of wages and pensions. Increase in food, energy cost. Health Care Premiums and Deductibles have increased and some coverage has decreased. There are more restrictions on American Business. There are more restrictions on American citizens. Oil fields in North Dakota are shutting down. ( More lost jobs). Obama portrays himself as looking out for the working man. From day one he has worked to make the wealthy wealthier. How can anyone in Washington DC have a clue on what we are dealing with at the middle and the bottom. When was the last time they put a hose in there fuel tank or walked through the grocery store. When was the last time they went without so someone else could have something. We have less in our pockets! That means we have less to help OUR COMMUNITIES!

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jeff61b 15 months ago Author

Tercra123 -

I don’t think the policy of having military recruiters be unarmed has much to do with President Obama. I believe the Pentagon makes those decisions. I understand they are considering changes to that policy.

So far we know that one person has targeted a military recruiter. That does not indicate that recruiters are at higher risk than anywhere else. We do know that there are several mass shootings in this country every year. They occur in churches, movie theaters, schools, office buildings, restaurants and many other places. Most have nothing to do with Islamic terrorism.

We act as if there is not much we can do about these frequent mass shootings, but if one of those shooters happens to be a Muslim, then suddenly this becomes the President’s fault and we blame him for not stopping a Muslim from shooting people.

The fact that this one shooter was a Muslim has little to do with any policy of President Obama. That shooting has much more to do with the fact that we have a gun culture in this country that enables anyone to walk into any location and shoot up a number of people before anyone can stop him.

Tercra123 15 months ago

jeff61b I'm impressed of your defense of your article but #13 is starting to take a hit and will sadly continue to do so. Even though I myself do not approve of Obama I applaud what he has done economically for this country. But it was Bush who re-enforced or heightened the hatred of this country by terrorists by his actions against them. Now it's up to Obama to get tougher. And he is anything but. Going as far as not allowing recruiters to be armed even though he knows that they are now clearly targets for terrorists. Kids gloves on ONCE again for an issue that needs to send a strong message that this'll NEVER happen again. Instead it's now common knowledge that THEY ARE banned from being armed so come get 'em!

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jeff61b 15 months ago Author


You say the world is a more dangerous place now?

Since Obama became president we have far fewer American troops fighting and dying in wars.

We have fewer Americans dying from terrorist attacks.

Iran is being stopped in their quest for nuclear weapons.

We are more respected by the rest of the world.

I grew up during a time when thousands of Americans were dying in Vietnam. The United States and the Soviet Union were always poised with their finger on the nuclear button.

What’s more, during the 70s and 80s the rates of murder and violent crime in America were constantly rising. For the past 20 years those rates have been dropping.

There is no logical way you can suggest that the world is more dangerous now than any other time in history.

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jeff61b 15 months ago Author


Even if you don't believe the unemployment numbers, the fact remains that since the Bush recession ended, about 13 million new jobs have been created during Obama's presidency.

When you talk about labor participation rates, you leave out the fact that the Baby Boomers are retiring, so the rate of people 63 and older leaving the workforce is greater than any time in history. These are people who do not seek a job any more.

Prior to Obama, there were many people who wanted to retire before they reached 65 but couldn't because they had to stay in a job they hated just so they could get health insurance. Now those people can retire because there are increased options for obtaining health insurance.

You're also mistaken about spending growth. The costs of Tarp and the stimulus package were spread out over a span of 3 or 4 years, not just 2009.

EXIT 36-B 15 months ago

Reminds me of the age old quote currently attributed to Mark Twain. "There are three kinds of lies, lies, damned lies, and statistics." The primary role of government is to protect the citizenry. Obama has failed and the world is more dangerous than anytime in my life.

Colin 15 months ago

Definitely using number in a misleading way. If you look at the jobs numbers and include workforce participation rate, you see the real truth.

unemployment--workforce participation rate--jobs per 100 Americans

Jan 1981 7.5%----63.9%----59.1

Jan 1989 5.4%----66.5%----62.9

Jan 2009 7.8%----65.7%----60.6

Jun 2015 5.3%----62.6%----59.3

As you can see, under Reagan there were 3.8 more jobs per 100 Americans, under Obama there are 1.3 less jobs per 100 Americans.

A look at the true data shows that Reagan way outperformed Obama in jobs.

As far as spending growth goes, the article is also dishonest there. It counts 2009 as the base year. In 2009 congress passed $700 billion in TARP funding and $831 billion in the stimulus package. This money is counted in the base spending number, when they should be taken out, as they were meant to be "one time" emergency spending. This also includes the saving for winding down the wars in Iraq & Afghanistan. With this in mind, Obama should see a drop in spending, or the writer should take a more reasonable fiscal year as the base, like 2008

Adam G in Boston 15 months ago

This was an excellent and well researched article. Sad to see so many poorly thought out angry protesting rebuttals in the comments section , people refusing to look at facts and appreciate the big picture. But America has always had a sizable percentage of these types of citizens who simply argue for themselves, rather than for the common good.

shaydaniels 15 months ago

@Ed Golver; "I don't know where you get your information." Try using the source links attached to each item. They provide data and cogent arguments, the likes of which you do not provide. Secondly, learn the difference between deficit and debt. While you're at it, look into what happened to our deficit and debt under Bush. Lastly, your mastery of the English language and spelling are woefully lacking. This has been a common trait among the majority of anti-Obama comments I have seen over the years. Im just certain that this correlates to something.

Observation 15 months ago


Perhaps it is not a question of support. I am republican. I believe the government should have very limited involvement in our lives. I do not agree with Obama in many of his choices. I do not care that he is democratic. Can I simply not agree with him? Why must it be a matter of support? Support is faith and the promise to help in any way possible and therefore rather innocent. American cannot afford to simply "support" our president. We must have the integrity and strength to keep him accountable to all of his decisions made for this country. Yes. Bush made a lot of errors. Yes. Obama has as well. Let it be a matter of informed reliance instead of supporting our president and having faith he will do our country right.

And for those of you that continue to say this country is a democracy. It is not. As spoken from Benjamin Franklin, the United States is a republic.

Observation 15 months ago

There are so many conflicting statistics and resource locations that no one really seems to agree with another. Information varies and emotions are running high. Interesting article. I do not agree. It is incredibly biased and narrow minded. It also is insightful to the democratic point of view; one that republicans like myself do not pay much attention to. I've read a large portion of the comments below and I have noticed that the author writes and responds in an extreme democratic review. As there are also many republicans commenting, there is more "I'm right you're wrong" going on than consideration that perhaps the other is correct or has a point. Each must do his or her own research to create an opinion. But to the author of this article; perhaps allow your readers that courtesy. Accusing those that disagree with you of lying and of spouting nonsense does not help your credibility or your persuasiveness. I am more inclined to ignore and even rebuke your every statement due to your obvious disdain for republicans and your clear diction. I understand. Everyone is frustrated and unhappy regarding the current politics; you Mr. Author, are trying to inform others of your opinions and why. If you want to achieve your goal, refrain from using such an accusational tone in writing.

JT Logical 15 months ago

Oh geez, I may have to stop being diplomatic here. @Haz, and @Elizabeth Boleyn, Jesus H Christ.

First, Haz my man-you realize that the illegals and unwed mothers you speak of are not increasing or in any data accurate correlated sense. You also must realize that among developed nations US social programs are among the more conservative, ie hardly handing out free pay to any old person. Much of your complaint is anecdotal, and this bring me back to the idea of internal vs. external locus of control. Essentially this means the good stuff that happens you earned, and the bad things are someone else's fault. Respectfully, grow up.

@Elizabeth whatever your last name is--did you ever attend school, or learn anything about history and/or government administration? The idea of communism coming to fruition in America is ridiculous, point 1. Do you recall the lengths at which we went during the McCarthy era to eradicate even the mildest threat of communism? And as to socialism, I get frustrated with "conservatives" with no understanding of that word. Social programs of nearly any nature (when disliked) can be labeled socialist. In reality socialism can exist as "democratic socialism"--essentially working to make people's lives better through rigorous application of the democratic processes of this nation. To you as well, grow up. Read a book. Learn what words mean before you throw them around like a toddler hurling blocks. There is nothing inherently sinister in socialism, and many programs that are lauded in our capitalistic political climate are socialist in nature. For instance, police, roads and infrastructure, social programs of any sort, including those for Veterans--in a purely capitalistic society resources would be available only to those who could afford them, in accordance with supply in demand. Revisit the history of the Great Depression-read up on Keynesian economics, and in entirely general terms become a fully formed adult and know what you are talking about before making laughable comments on a subject about which you are ill informed.

Embarrassed 15 months ago

I can't believe some of the things seeming adults will put their names to. One of you clowns referred to the money you pay out of pocket before your insurance kicks in as a "delectible." Another of you said that we have inflation because Obama is printing money.

Jaylynn444 15 months ago

Thank you for a well written article, with, not JUST your opinion, but links to back up the information. I read some of the comments, and, sadly, MOST of the comments included words like "ME" "MY" "I". We live in a very one sided society, which is so very sad. When the most embarrassing President in U.S. History (Bush - wow, talk about a moron!!!) was in office, gas hit $5.00 a gallon! I remember this SO clearly, because I commuted from San Diego to Los Angeles 2-3 times a week, and I stopped to get gas in LA. I looked at the price, and just started crying, right there as I was pumping my gas. It wasn't just for ME I was crying for - but the many, many others who had to commute for a better paying job. I'm sure that a lot of people at the time had to weigh: calling in sick or driving to work - which was more cost effective? Most Republicans will bash a Democratic President NO MATTER HOW GOOD OF A JOB THEY'RE DOING - the entire length of their Presidency. I know this, because I read comments on FB, and other social media, as well as reputable news sources. In fact, I have NEVER read a comment from a Republican that said anything close to this "Well, even though I'm not happy about a Democrat in office, lets give him/her our support, and hopefully that person will step up and do a great job". We are all made up of energy (FACT), and when most Republicans are hating and acting like spoiled brats the entire time, that negative energy is swarming throughout the Universe. Wouldn't it be better next term, (and healthier) to just realize that this MAN or WOMAN is trying their best (hopefully) to do right by our country? Isn't SUPPORT something that will help that person do better? How would you feel, going to work every day, getting bombarded with negative remarks, haters, etc. How well do you think you would perform? PLEASE, no matter who wins next election, just give that American your support. How do you think it looks to other countries, seeing such a divided country?

Ed Glover 15 months ago

I'm not sure where your getting your information at, but there isn't one spread of truth to any of the 14 facts you listed, our economy welfare national debt military income welfare it's all in worse shape then it's ever been, our health tax haven't even kicked in wait till next year when each individual has to pay the entire cost, everything this administration has done has been one giant smoke screen, our national debt is higher then it's ever been Obama has spent more money to make less progress then all the other presidents combined, he hasn't helped this country one bit, he has done exactly what he set out to do and that is anilate our country and our ways, he should be court marshaled for what he's done, and shame on you for posting this rediculos claim.

haz 15 months ago

Is anyone really believing all these lies? Where have you people been living? I was getting by and even saving a few bucks before Obama, on a fixed income when the prices on food more than double and gas goes up, and now I have to pay more in medicial, my income does not get any higher. My living expenses have doubled.The unemployment is not what they make it look like. Ask any homeless person who lost their job because their workplace shut down. They used all their unemployment up and are not on the rolls now but they are still unemployed. Ask all the working poor people who can't eat because after they pay, electric, rent , they do not have enough money to buy proper food, they make just enough that they do not get help. The only people Obama has helped is the unwed mothers (and the men living with them) the people who unlawfully entered our country, the lazy healthy people who discovered they could make more money by letting the taxpayers keep them. Other countries where our factories moved to so they could make more profit and pay their workers pocket change. China is where the jobs have gone along with a few other poor countries. Before Obama leaves office the US will be destroyed. What do you think will happen when the working people do not make enough money to support all the people who will not work?

cs 15 months ago

jeff61b, facts are facts, I’m paying higher premiums, can't keep my doctor, getting less for the dollar, and I do make less than $400k a year and my taxes have gone up. I'm sorry if that isn't a fact for you. I don't make up facts just to hopefully prove a point, this is happening to many people not just me.

If you're happy with what you get out of this then it makes me wonder who'd paying your bills. I'm well aware of inflation, however it has jumped in several areas, doubling in many cases. Please explain to me what the word Affordable means? From what I see in the Affordable Care Act they are not following the definition of the word. Health insurance didn't jump like this before, it did now because I am now covered in case I get pregnant, which really isn't likely because I am a male. However, everyone is required to be covered, why? My mother in law has had a hysterectomy and she cannot have another child at 67, however because of the way the ACA was written she is insured and you don't get that for free. My wife is covered too, again she cannot have children but she's covered and of course I'm paying for it. This is a fact that affects everyone, not made up, not pulled from the air, it's in the bill, read it. Speaking of the ACA, you do realize that the website cost $70 million to build, contract awarded to a foreign company, it didn't work in the beginning, and from what I hear from many, they still have issue. GM, Microsoft, many large companies didn't spend that much on their websites over years and we the taxpayers are paying this, we didn't get it free. Why wasn't this awarded to an American company? It should never have been allowed to be presented or a foreign company, I don’t care if they offered to build it for $1 let alone given a $93 million dollar contract. Here is a prime example of government overspending. Over spending is a problem, you say it isn’t. You’re right, we are spending less money in the government, however I think that giving it away to countries that we’re not the best of friends with is still considered spending, now we’re talking more than $70 million. This was awarded by a mostly Democratic government when the contract was signed so don’t say it was the republicans that pushed for overseas companies to do the job. There is more to a filibuster than just trying to stop one thing, it’s usually because there are other issues involved and you don’t think democrats have done it too on many important items? You need to hit the books again if you say no. As for the Bush recession, let’s look at what started this, Clinton in one of his greater moments decided that everyone should own a home, so he made that (not the laugh here) Affordable to all, the banks we all for the government to back loans that people couldn’t afford. So what happens when people can’t pay their bills? The system fails, and yes, Bush gets the blunt of it all (remember I said I’m no big fan of Bush however…), so all democrats blamed Bush. Now when Obama has problems, you still blame Bush, I think that Obama has been in office long enough that his mistakes are what is causing issues now. The banking system started to fail, people lost their homes, why? Because Clinton pushed his agenda, now Obama is pushing his.

Again I will ask you like I asked my son, don’t use the web unless you can prove that it came from different sites not just copied or someone just writing an article stating it is facts. Really read what the articles have to say not pick out the cream of the crop and use that. I had a friend that wrote a book, they paid to have it reviewed, they were very disappointed in what they had returned to them, their book was slammed and suggested that readers should find something better to read than the rubbish that was in the book. They took and removed pieces from the review and it became a great sales tool. The problem is that when people really got the book and read it, it was still rubbish and they can’t edit peoples comments. You have, you even state that you have. You have given half-truths and twisted it to look good, which a lot of the media is doing for fear of the back lash of being called racist which happens if you criticize Obama. I don’t care who is in office, if it’s wrong it’s wrong, don’t give it fluff and call it something great.

Now, as I started to say, like I asked my son, try to prove yourself wrong. It’s easy to find what you want anywhere on the web because you look for the facts or what is put out as facts to prove your point. Try looking for just the opposite, see if you can prove yourself wrong, really try not just say you did. Only then should you believe what is out there, because if what you said is really true, you will find nothing factual the says otherwise.

You will disappoint me though, your statements to comments is not a “Hummm I need to look into that, or here is something that shows what you said is wrong, or what you said is true” you just give the usual rhetoric that I read even when the facts come out that what has been said was not only wrong but a lie (several Politian’s have lied in this administration).

Now, remember, I only went over a couple of your so called facts, we can go over other points and I will back up the facts that I present with more than a single source. One is my premiums, remember, the Affordable Care Act is to bring Affordable (something that doesn’t make us spend all of our money on healthcare), Quality (better than just ok or good, my wife was taking Lantis Insulin and it was the best insulin for her, it kept her out of the hospitals, now, the cheaper brand, getting worse, insurance won’t pay and that is using that $50 a bottle compared to $24.88 a bottle without insurance at a major retailer). Please tell me this isn’t a fact, oh yes you already did, you said I couldn’t use my facts, they aren’t they are facts from the pharmacy and insurance companies.

I look up facts, I try to prove myself wrong. I have been angry at people that do lie about what someone is doing, even when they lie about Obama. I don’t just pull facts out of the air and that is what you accused me of, what I am accusing you of is not really getting the true facts.

Elizabeth Bolen 15 months ago

Where did you get your information - Huffington? How about the New York Times, maybe CNN? You liberals will be blaming Bush for changes to school menu's the next thing you know. Mr. Obama has implemented Socialism and Mrs. Clinton is going to continue it into Communism if she is elected.

JT Logical 15 months ago

Well this post has been very interesting to me. In particular because the author took pains to use conservative source material, but more in the hilarity of the respondents. If there existed a drinking game for misspelled words from angry republicans I feel confident that I would be wasted by now.

I grew up in a republican town, and most of my friends are republican. However when people ask me my political affiliation I call myself a "business democrat." That is not an oxymoron, my right wing friends. My exact points are covered well by some things mentioned here.

I was not raised in a certain political party. I was 18 years old in 2008 and did not vote, partially due to caring for my father who had a stroke. I really didn't think about it.

But in the years after I felt horribly guilty about it, and decided to learn as much as possible about the political process so I could be an informed voter in 2012, and in particular the facts and figures behind the then, ever-prominent, recession.

What did I learn, as an impressionable young person who coincidentally worked in finance? Well, Greenspan essentially gave free reign to Wall Street traders that used card counting theory and untested algorithms to automate trading of tranched sub-par mortgage loans, that was pretty irresponsible. Some of the record low days in Wall Street were predicted by these models to only happen 1 in 10,000 years. I can add the titles to this comment later as I imagine I'll get a lot of crap over these remarks.

But more importantly, I am actually now a recruiter. And much of what I hear in these comments is disappointingly familiar. You lost your job, or your insurance, and somehow that traumatic personal experience gets extrapolated to someone else who just happens to be present during your struggles. In some senses reading these misspelled, ignorant comments I really just feel sorry for them. If these people had a concept of "Sharia Law" they would know that it is laughable to say Obama is somehow implementing that. He has been nearly silent on religious issues, and to imagine otherwise is a work of fiction.

And alright, let me just be frank here. There are presidents on the books who received somewhat excessive criticism, including "dub-ya" and Clinton, and it did preclude them from getting certain productive things done. But what we have here is a means vs. ends discussion: can it honestly said that republicans were more concerned with the end-their principles-or the means, namely obstructing Obama.

Okay, and off my soapbox about Obama. Let me give an objective perspective of how my life has been under his presidency.

My income doubled in 2012, after ending three painful months of unemployment. I've worked since I was 15, so I was especially ill suited to lacking employment.

It doubled again in 2014, and then got a 20% bump in 2015. I was able to begin saving up for a house. I also got way better health insurance, was able to begin furthering my education again (Left college while my father had a stroke, as mentioned earlier.)

I have many gay and lesbian friends that enjoy more freedom today than they historically have. I have been overjoyed to see individual American citizens enjoy the privileges they have as citizens fully.

I am proud of my President that he has done some things, and less proud of others. The hilarious thing to me is that in a different political climate Obama would honestly be moderate. He is far from lax on terrorism and foreign policy issues. He hasn't broken the bank like your classical feel good liberal. And he is above all, practical in developing policy.

Disagree with me, as I know you all will. But I compile facts for such occasions, and I don't honestly imagine many of the commenters on here do the same.

Mike Smith 15 months ago

Everett Fraker none of what you say is factual. You are just regurgitating what they say on Fox, they always play loose with the facts. Just in the last 4 days 5 different guests have claimed that the unarmed military men in chatanooga were unarmed thanks to Bill Clinton - the directive banning weapons originated with George HW Bush in 1992. Do your research Everett - think for yourself, it takes more effort but it will make you more believable...

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jeff61b 15 months ago Author

CS -

As I've told others, you are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts.

When it comes to health insurance, premiums were going up rapidly every year long before Obamacare came along. If you already had decent insurance then Obamacare had no effect on you or your premiums.

On unemployment, look at the numbers. Several million jobs were lost in the Bush Recession. Since the recession ended we’ve added almost 13 million new jobs. It would probably be even more if Republicans hadn’t killed every single jobs bill for the past 6 years. In the past 2 years more of the jobs have been professional and administrative jobs.

President Obama and the Democrats tried to end all the incentives that encourage companies to outsource labor to other countries, but again, Republicans used the Senate filibuster to protect the corporations’ right to ship jobs overseas.

And Obama has not pushed to make illegal aliens legal residents. He has supported allowing people who were brought here illegally as a child and who lived their entire lives in America, to have a path to citizenship. But he has also turned away more illegal aliens at the border than any other president in history.

If you make less than $400,000 a year, then your taxes are either lower or the same as they were before Obama became president.

cs 15 months ago

I have read almost all of the comments, I have read what you said in your article, I have read your rebutals including the mud thowing you seem to have no problem with. Both the conservative and the libral have their faults, however you really are not checking your facts and when shown or someone states a fact youseem to get iritated, you're sounding like a toddler throwing a fit because it has to be your way.

My insurance has cost more since the Affordable Care Act was passed, and the way it was passed was as a law, this is not freedom this is socialist. I am paying more for my insurance, I am paying more for a doctor visit, I am paying more for prescriptions. My wife is diabetic, we used to pay $10, $15 then it wen to $25 (rates went up even over 30 years) for a vial of insulin. Now using the insurance I can get that same vile for $50, so without insurance there is a major chain where I can purchase it for $24.88 with no insurance. So what happens if I don't have insurance? I am fined so I have to pay more to get less, affordable for whom?

Employment? WHen they say they drop off the labor force that is of course those that are retiring, how many? Baby boomers, a lot of people there, however what about the people that are no long able to receive unemployment compensation? You're only allowed 26 weeks (the averagge) and yes, some states pay for it longer, and some less. Now when those people run out of weeks you do realize that they are no longer counted as a statistic don't you? They still don't have a job but they don't count as the office count is who is on Unemployment, all parties (Dem & Rep) do this to show how well they are doing. On jobs, if I were home right now I'd pull up the article that states that most jobs are low paying, and part time, the full time jobs are not high in numbers. There are still a lot of companies that use resources in other countries, every call some of the cell phone carriers customer support lines (other companies do this too as well as programming) they are not in the US, they are exported jobs. So who is getting the blunt of taxes to pay for everything? Those that are still employed, don't say the government as they get their money from us.

Illegal aliens? Let's be serious, the Obama administration has been pushing to make those people legal residents not deport them. They have over 30 safe cities in the US. If I would do anything ilegal, is there a city I can go to where I won't be in trouble? Not go to jail? Pay a hefty fine? No, I'm a citizen so I will face the concequenses of doing something wrong.

I could go on about all of what you wrote, and your facts are media driven or even government driven and I have read in many places conflicting stories. You need to do what I used to tell my son, instead of trying to prove your point, you need to see if if you can prove your point wrong. It's easy to find things to support your view point and dismiss the others as lies. Fact, my taxes are higher not lower. Fact, my insurance and health care is higher not lower and I receive less for my dollar. I could go on, however I won't, not at this point as I will be dismissed like many others have been here. Do I think Bush had his faults? Yes he did and there were a lot of things that I'm not happy about, and the same thoughts with Obama.

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jeff61b 15 months ago Author


Perhaps you didn't read the title of the article.

It is not a comprehensive list of information about Obama's presidency. It is specifically a list of facts that most people don't know or have forgotten. President Obama is the first person to admit that he is far from perfect. But these are facts that too often get overlooked by those people who only want to relentlessly bash this president.

Obummersucks 15 months ago

Yeah AL quida has not successfully struck the USA but Isis has and they are way worse than any terrorist group there is. Um I am pretty sure the reason immigrants are dropping in deportation is because he is giving them legal status once they cross. Face it the man is a crock or you know what. he supports terrorism and cares more about Muslims than our own troops he race baits and allows police to be brutally murdered. explain to me how this is good for America?

Sue 15 months ago

I would have believed that this was an objective list had there been even *one* item on said list that caused our illustrious leader to appear anything but perfect and misunderstood thanks to "right wing media outlets".

No president is perfect. Even this one. If you can't find a single issue to question him on, your list is biased. We get it: you love Obama.

Vic 15 months ago

You all forget you are Americans, this segregation is not caused internally. Social media is now the new battle ground for our enemies to separate us. Clean up congress and elect a group of people that knows how to work together as Americans instead of dividing us and make us weaker.

Joel 15 months ago

Freddie Mac required to make loans to unqualified borrowers (Democrats). 2008 gas price per gal. $1.89 reached $4/ gal. under Democrats. Will of the people overruled in partial birth abortion by executive order Pres. B.O.. Unemployed is at least double the figures, Pres. B.O.. My medicare costs have doubled and tripled for doctor visits and prescriptions, Pres. B.O. . 10 million people under ACA because they were forced to drop their own insurance due to abortion clauses Pres. B.O. Wars authorized by Democratically Controlled Congress, HELLO . Jobs, need two or three to support a family, Pres. B.O. Middle class has shrunk and distance between wealthy and poor has increased, Pres. B.O. . Race relations worst since the '60's, Pres. B.O. . Number of persons accessing welfare increased exponentially, Pres. B.O. . Budget deficit decreased, thank the Republicans for not allowing huge spending bills to pass. Terrorist attacks on U.S. soil have increased, but haven't been called what they were terrorist attacks. I wish your post was true. I wish we had such a beautiful and wonderful President. I wish. Alan Keyes were are you?

UncleBomb 15 months ago

The facts are republicans and democrats that are suppose to be working for use in Washington are only there to fatten there own pocketts and keep the American people devided and working for them now.The only diverence are the Republicans earned there wealth the hard way and are tired of giving it away to those democrats who want to earn it by selling it all to every other nation at the cost of the working stiff.The dum ass republican congress,and senate goes along with it just to keep things devided in hopes to fatten there pockets a little more.Think about it. Why would anyone want that mess in washington with all the cultural,rasial,religious,sexual differences that this country as wound up with in the last 40 to 50 years.It sure hell isn't patriotism.Look at how there salaries have went up compaired to us.The people there working for.Not to mention there benifits.Why weren't they required to take out there own health ins. or go on Obama care? I personally believe that if the muslim religion believes in cutting off heads and suiside in the hopes of recieving 12 virgins in the hereafter.Then president obama and his muslim crew would lie,and change the facts to what ever means nessasary.He's accomplished just what the muslim nations have wanted and the the republicans helped and only out of greed.The rest of us will end up paying the price.It's just a matter of time now.If know one should hear from me again.Don't be surprised.The obama crew probably paid me a visit to let me know freedom of speech doesn't exsist in the muslim religion or should i say his world.

Rebecca 15 months ago

Your facts are lacking a bit.... Unemployment that number is only gone by those on unemployment it doesn't take into account those who don't qualify or no longer get it.... I've been unemployed since 2013... And health insurance i can't afford it even if I had a part time job I looked into it.. I would be working just to try and pay the premium but if I had to see the doc let alone get meds take out a loan just to pay for it.... It's not affordable... I also think you kinda for got about all the individual attackers that terrorist claimed responsibility for so yeah there have been just as many attacks... Oh and let's not forget he released 6 Taliban fighters from gitmo for a traitor... Yep he's doing a fine job as a president....

Nancy 15 months ago

As an independent political observer who also has several overly-conservative republicans in my family, I have learned that no republican will ever acknowledge the achievements and successes that President Obama has accomplished in his two terms in office. I have saved this article for the next family debate on Obama's presidency so I can watch them ignore and dispute the true facts. This president walked into the biggest mess that was created by George W. Bush. There is no doubt that Obama has done an amazing and exceptional job considering what he inherited from the Bush administration. Regardless of your political party status, all Americans should recognize and be proud of his accomplishments. We are definitely better off than we were during the Bush years!

Richard 15 months ago

For starters

1. The president (all presidents) have nothing to do with the deficit. This is mostly due to the strength of the US dollar.

2. Yes, the stock market is going thru the roof and it is very stable but Obama and the Fed are pumping $55-$ 80 Billion into the market EVERY MONTH thru the QE program. Even supporters of this program are saying it is making rich people filthy rich and leaving poor Americans in the dust. The wealth gap is thru the roof by all measures.

3. Lowest spending since Eisenhower, did you read the article(s) you linked to. this is simply not true. Just ask yourself how did we go from 10 trillion to 18 trillion in debt under Obama. The article is playing with works and using many assumptions that have long since proven to be false.

4. Al Queada vs ISIS again playing with words. Many lone wolf ISIS sympathizers not Al Queada.

I could go on about unemployment numbers eliminating those not looking for work or pay has not increased since Obama took office but I doubt you or your readers will be influenced.

We could talk about transparency or if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor. Some people love their party and believe what they want regardless of facts or the truth.

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J Garcia 15 months ago

For number 13, there has also been zero successful attacks by Japan on American soil during Obamas presidency. Just saying.

Rowan 15 months ago

I have no doubt that posterity will regard Obama as one of the great US Presidents.

In spite of fierce and recalcitrant opposition,he has brought an aura of" dignitas" to the Presidency that hasn't been seen for a while, he is a formidable orator, and he has proven his commitment to social justice and the greater good. History tends to be very kind to those leaders who show themselves to be men of principle, who improve the lot of the less fortunate or fight for social justice, rather than those who are guided by greed, self-interest or political expedience.

As a political science grad and a lifelong observer of US politics, the use of hyperbole, slander and misrepresentation by both major parties has always fascinated me and it seems that the stereotypes and myths have rendered some Americans impervious to facts.

Compared to the rest of the world, the domestic politics spectrum in the U.S. is way to the right of centre.

It is probably fair to say that nowadays the whole traditional left-right political spectrum is redundant, and the prevailing myths and stereotypes of "tax and spend", "big government" Democrats have been proven to be false.

In regard to economic policy and management, the presidencies of Bill Clinton and Barack Obama had all the hallmarks traditionally associated with successful Republican administrations, while the two terms of George W. Bush were characterised by a blowout in the federal budget deficit, rising unemployment and a steadily deteriorating economy.

What I really don't get though is why there are so many critics of sensible, compassionate measures like the Affordable Care Act.

The United States is the ONLY industrialised country on earth without some form of universal health care for its citizens.

Why do Americans not understand that nationality is an honour - something that brings with it both privilege and obligation, and in most countries the privileges of citizenship include equal access to healthcare and education, assistance in times of adversity and unemployment.

In a wealthy, civilised society to deny such privileges to all citizens is an abomination.

To me, it seems profoundly unpatriotic and psychopathic (psychopaths lack empathy and compassion) that anyone would oppose the extension of basic health care to those in need.

The lies and the absurd Randroid rhetoric fomented by the Right to camouflage the self-interest and greed that really motivate their opposition to the ACA and lead them to oppose any reasonable measure likely to improve social justice are delusional to the extreme.

The Neo-frontier mentality of Wall Street Cowboys and their apologists vaunts the sanctity of individual effort and condemns anything which they perceive as likely to increase taxes, regardless of the worthiness of such measures.

Perhaps we need to re-assess the Social Contract and make sure that voters are fully aware that taxation is a duty, one which funds the military that keeps invaders from American shores, the institutions that maintain law and order and social stability, all of which are essential for business to make a profit of any kind. Tax isn't a dirty word.

Apologies for the meandering comment - I had a point in mind when I began but seem to have gone off on a tangent, but what I'm trying to say is that there is a massive gap between the perception and the reality of what both parties stand for, and how they performed in office, and I believe it would benefit Anerican democracy for the electorate to be more aware of how things are in the rest of the world.

No man is an island, and in an age of globalisation, no nation is either.

Dawson 15 months ago

This administration has set up myriad policies that reap political rewards now for devestating social and economic disaster in the very near future. They're not stupid... They're politicians.

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jeff61b 15 months ago Author

Aphrodite -

I understand. It is often difficult to accept truth that you don't want to believe. You may refuse to believe it now, but if you research any of these facts you will find them all to be true.

Aphrodite 15 months ago

I refuse to believe any of this.

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jeff61b 15 months ago Author

Nightwisp -

You have the right to reject facts that you don't like. Like many conservatives you promote the myth of the "liberal media" and your comment suggests you only believe right wing political sources.

You need to stop relying exclusively on those right wing sources for your information. Expand your horizons and stop believing the people who are telling you what you want to hear.

NightWisp 15 months ago

Since most of the citations are from main stream media sources which take their propaganda and talking points from the White House daily bulletins like good little Kool -aid drinkers, I hardly think these are reliable and accurate sources. More so parroting the party line and the hopium spin that Obama wishes to feed the gullible and the sheeple.

I have eyes. And a brain. And I do not believe any of the above.

Corinne mangino 15 months ago

Great read! Now if only all the Obama haters would read the facts!

Mestophales 15 months ago

in November 2009

U.S. Unemployment Rate Hits 10.2%, Highest in 26 Years

In February 2015

Good news: Unemployment at lowest in 7 years (5/5%)

However - this is what the author of THAT article has left out

The Big Lie: 5.6% Unemployment

Why Unemployment Is 6.30% Higher Than We're Told!

Gene Fellner, age 71 15 months ago

I'm not very happy with the bragging about turning away illegal immigrants. Ronald-may-he-rot-in-hell-Reagan's Iran-Contra scheme destroyed Central America and it hasn't recovered yet. Those people are giving what little money they have to shady characters who promise to escort them (or, often, just their children) through Mexico and across the U.S. border in the hope that they'll be able to survive and get an education. This is the only hope they've got. It's OUR fault so WE should be held accountable. The Republicans keep lying and saying it's Mexicans who are crossing the border, but they don't want us to realize that Mexico turned itself around 15 years ago and is now a middle-class country. More Mexicans are going back home than are coming here. The people who are coming in now are from much further south. Sending the second generation of Reagan's hapless victims back to Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras and Nicaragua, a completely dysfunctional region run by gangsters and corrupt politicians, isn't much different from a death sentence. I wish we could send every Republican to Central America, without his cellphone and his American Express card, and see how long he can survive there. Frankly I'd just be happy to get them our of our country. Lincoln and Eisenhower must be weeping over what has become of their once-proud party. Selfish, racist, xenophobic gun nuts with no heart who claim to be followers of Jesus.

Larry Wall 15 months ago

Sir you are fortunate to have had insurance that could incease in cost.l Because of my unemployment states, age and prior health conditions, I COULD NOT PURCHASE insurance from any major carrier.l $60,000 out of pocket over 30 months. The hospital forgave $32,000 and I had to take a home equity loan on a house that had no mortgage to pay the rest. I do not have that problem with Obamacare. Insurance companies, long before Obamacare often raised rates and reduced benefits. You just did not pay any attention to it because it was part of life. Obamacare brought a lot of things to light.

Bobby Cox 15 months ago

11 is a lie I have watched my own and other family members go up 30 percent and have less coverage

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c-rob –

You say your rates had not changed in 12 years but had the biggest increase after Obamacare. I do not believe that.

Insurance rates nationwide were going up faster than the rate of inflation long before Obamacare. For most people, those rates are now rising at a much slower pace due to the Affordable Care Act.

How is anyone ignorant enough to call this “Socialist” health care? We don’t have a single payer plan. We don’t have government run health care. We still use private insurance companies, privately owned and operated hospitals, privately owned pharmaceutical companies and doctors who are in private practice.

There is nothing “socialist” about our healthcare system. We do subsidize some lower income people to help them buy insurance, but that actually saves us, the taxpayers, money.

Before Obamacare, we were paying the full cost of uninsured people when they got sick or injured. If people couldn’t pay we paid through higher premiums, higher taxes and higher health care costs.

It is much cheaper to pay for part of their insurance premiums than it is to pay for the entire cost of their health care.

If you understand basic economics you can see that Obamacare is a market-based (meaning capitalist) system that saves us billions of dollars a year.

Even the Congressional Budget Office says Obamacare saves us over $300 billion a year.

c-rob 15 months ago

Maybe they should take into affect that the Social Security and Disability applications and approvals have went up 300+%, which masks their stats for Unemployment and job growth, because they automatically aren't fit into any of those stats, so those are both lies. I know my insurance, which hasn't changed in 12 years, has had the biggest increases and cost me more every time I go to the doctor now, than it ever has, thanks to our Socialist Healthcare. GET OFF YOUR A-DOUBLES AND GET A JOB! I shouldn't pay a penny for the lazy pieces that haven't worked for anything they have, specifically their insurance!

MaxHeeb 15 months ago

Artfully submitted But why is the debt over 18 trillion,? Why re 60 million out of the work force" why are insurance premiums higher? Why are part time jobs counted in the rate?

How odd 15 months ago

How odd. the parts of this I know about are... there are 10,000,000 people with health insurance... 20 million more previously insured people who have lost theirs. Companies are only employing people on a nine months on ,three months off basis. The company thereby avoids health insurance and pension payments for its employees. The three months health insurance has to be paid by the part time employee. The deductables are so high that people cannot afford to go to the doctor or get medication because they will never reach the deductable level. 1/3 of all the REAL jobs have been created in Texas. The others have (as outlined by the previous example of part time employment above) been created when the previously under employed have returned to their jobs. It is all smoke and mirrors and people are suffering. The large number of house foreclosures shows how very many people are losing their homes.

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Ben -

It is easy for you to make up garbage like this. Not one fact listed in this article has been refuted nor have they come from sources with a liberal bias. I deliberately chose some conservative sources like Forbes.

You have never proved one fact wrong using a .gov site.

You cannot dispute the 12 million new jobs that have been created and you lied when you said 80 million have dropped off the labor force under Obama.

You've got nothing so you just repeat common right wing talking points without fact checking anything. I've already responded to all the BS talking points previously.

Ben 15 months ago

your "facts" offer few unbiased sources. I read this couple of month ago and researched every fact and proved every fact using mostly .gov sites, incorrect. They were all written out. I still have them but after reading all the comments I see you have already been thoroughly humiliated, especially with some of the biased libera references. Unemployment 5.4% now add the 80m that have gone off the labor force. What do you have? Deficit inherited from Bush $1.4t? How come the the govt only shows less than $500B carried over. The Debt to GDP has had the debt winning the race much of th last 5 years. Obamacare saving Medicare? The higher over priced premiums most all Americans are paying, plus the illegal taxes are funding Medicare and yachts and Swiss Chalets. So I guess there are enough uninformed and under intelligent bottom dwellers that buy your rhetoric so you can keep your job.

axisofweevils 15 months ago

Well Primitive, as one might suspect of one with a username such as yours, your notion of the debt is infallibly wrong.

The debt is owed to any number of purchasers of US treasury instruments. It is NOT what one nation owes to another.

The largest holders of US debt instruments are US investors by the way. While foreign investors do purchase US debt, it is still overwhelmingly owned by domestic interests.

Primitive 15 months ago

This article speaks glibly of the "deficit" but never mentions the "debt'!

How many who read this are likely to know that the 'deficit' is an import/export measure and has nothing to do with the National 'DEBT' which is money owed by one nation to another.

Larry Wall 15 months ago

Bill Whitfield:

Are you saying that a Democrat--the longest surviving political part in our history--should never be President and do you just disagree with Affordable Care Act, the increase in jobs and the lowering of the deficit, and pulling the country out of the 2008 depression, which was not his fault.

Or do you just dislike President Obama just because you want to blame someone for everything you think is wrong. You are entitled to your opinion. It is guaranteed by the First Amendment. When I was a reporter, I could not get by saying the things I read on this Hub without being sued for libel .

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liladybugz26 16 months ago from Cambridge

I meant Sanders at 25% hahaha, not you. What is up with the HP comment editor? It hasn't worked for two days!

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liladybugz26 16 months ago from Cambridge

@Larry Wall,

Democratic socialist Bernie Sanders is gaining some momentum. I am particularly fond of him; however, latest polls show Hillary in the lead as a 57% favorite, and Wall at 25%.

Larry Wall 16 months ago

My last comment was followed by one that described their view of it in a short sentence, using a term you hear in bars, uneducated people, people who just like to argue, those that do not want to be confused by the facts and other similar groups.

The point is that Obama did accomplish some things. He was elected to two terms. Some economic conditions are better, and some are about the same. He will be gone in a year. History will define his presidency.

However, I have a new question, for all of those believe President Obama did a horrible job, who do you expect can be elected and correct all the "mistakes, errors, and failures" of t Administration.

Hillary Clinton is the most mentioned Democrat, but is unlikely to win.

The Republicans have given us Jeb Bush, and the Bush family has not been well received. We have Donald Trump, who is already harming the economy and the Governor of my state Bobby Jindal, who I voted for in the race for governor, but reluctantly the second time. I will not vote for him for president.

So who is the Knight on the White Horse that is going to come and undo all that President Obama has accomplished.

I do not know who I will vote for in the next election. However, if he mentions eliminating the Affordable Care Act, he can forget my vote and not is not being selfish. I will be on Medicare by that time—you know about Medicare. It was part of the Great Society program of Lyndon Johnson that was going to destroy the nation back in the 1960s when we were having campus riots, a war in Vietnam and was just beginning to see the error in our ways regarding civil rights. That was when we saw Martin Luther King and Robert Kennedy assianiated. The result was the election of Richard Nixon, who opened the door to talks with China, but master-mined the Watergate break-in and conspiracy, when he was a sure winner over George McGovern. Politics are unpredictable and no matter how successful a President might me, there will be a group that will call him the worse

Finally, has anything been accomplished with this Hub. The Hub was well written. The comments, in some cases were meaningful and productive. In others, they were just rants. I am sure there are those from both sides that have their own very different opinions about the comments and those of others who have been less than professional.

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Dawn Roman 16 months ago

I'm always intrigued by left and right employment/unemployment statistics when in actuality, the true issue stressing the fabric of our country is UNDEREMPLOYMENT.

The Afordable Care Act has been the first truly helpful gesture our government has given to this ever growing sector.

Companies profits increase as their employees are cut to part time hours: having no eligibility for health insurance, retirement, sick days, etc. Job security is nill. A two adult household with one person working full time and one with two part time jobs totaling $45K will owe taxes. ACA saves their asses.

People with full time jobs go to food pantries, but many of these people ignored the economic depression until they realized 3 years ago they had put 2 1/2 mortgages on their homes and can't live off their credit cards anymore.

We simply live in a Nation where few are happy with what they do have, never realizing there are hundreds of thousands if not more that are surviving on a hell of a lot less than they are and are grateful for every stride this administration has made to lessen the income gap.

Larry Wall 16 months ago

Someone said the Hub is effective because the people have never been so divided. In the past, we did not have the Internet as a tool. So there was no central place to voice comments, facts and incorrect statements. In addition, there is no all-being single source that can accurately separate the truth from the junk.

The President is the leader of he country. However, his leadership is at the mercy of the Congress, the Supreme Court and existing court rulings and legislation. It is like moving into a house that has been a rental property. Every room is painted a different color, some of the appliances are outdated, and the patio that was added on without a proper permit, has to be removed. The President is the leader, but he does not accomplish anything or fail at anything in isolation. There is always somebody to help him be successful and some who will be working against him. Each has a constituency they want to believe, their personal beliefs and their level of effectiveness, depending on how long they have served. Thus, determining the effectiveness of a President is not totally dependent on what he does, but on the support he gets from the Congress and the people.

He was elected twice by the people (I know it is the electoral college and not a popular vote, but in this case, the outcome was not affected--already had that debate.)

Measuring deficits, cost of living, GNP and all that other good stuff that most people do not understand does not shape the president.

I became unemployed during the George W. administration, and I was pushing 60. I drew unemployment, as long as I could. Use my severance, dipped into my 401K, worked at a department store and did some freelance writing. I am probably counted as one of those not working. I draw Social Security and will be on Medicare next year. I am not an unusual person. A lot of people in my age group have been facing this situation for years.

Obama is not perfect. George W. Bush was not perfect not was any president before him and none of those to come will be. They will all enjoy moments of popularity and have times when the poll numbers are disappointing.

The President inherits what previous presidents and Congress, along with other events, such as 9-11 that have been left to them. The plans they had, may have to be put on hold, while they clean up what was not completed before taking office.

I do not believe most of the facts and figures that have been presented mainly because I do not think everyone, including me, fully understand what those numbers really mean.

Bin Laden is dead. We have a health plan that treated the ill and elderly, who previously were turned down by insurance companies. Those are two major accomplishments. What have you done today to make this country better? You can ask me the same question, and I will have a hard time coming up with a suitable answer. Let us not be so quick to judge. Let us look at the whole picture and concentrate on accomplishments, not numbers that are easily manipulated based on a person's political preference.

JS 16 months ago

Waste your time discussing if these 14 statements are fact or fiction but the reason they could be 14 facts most people don't know about the Obama presidency is because we are so outraged at what we DO know to be true that we don't care .

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misterhollywood 16 months ago from Hollywood, CA

This fact based article about President Obama is excellent and has likely caught the attention of media folks. It certainly has grabbed the attention of the ignorant Obama haters. That's how you know you did a great job with your writing.

I remember the dark days of the Bush "Presidency" well. To see republicans compare Bush to Obama is a joke. This president will likely be recorded at one of the greatest presidents of American history.

Voted up and shared.

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liladybugz26 16 months ago from Cambridge

@Cee EffJay,

Here is the naked truth to dispute your poverty fallacy -

According to the US Census Bureau, poverty began climbing in 2001 after 911, while George W. Bush was in office. The rate steadily climbed through 2009 until President Obama took the reigns. For the next three years the poverty level remained the same with no change. In 2012 it began a nose dive, and has continued to fall continuously to date. You can review this bipartisan data here:

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liladybugz26 16 months ago from Cambridge

*Some* Republicans keep their eyes stuffed with wool, and try to twist and maneuver any truth about the good things coming from Democratic policy @jeff61b. It's too scary for them to believe what is really true because it would challenge their way of thinking, and bring question to what they stand for.

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jeff61b 16 months ago Author

Cee EffJay -

Unemployment fell because the economy has created 12 million new jobs since the end of the recession. The Dept. of Labor tracks the jobs lost and created each month and the numbers have been improving for 5 years.

The deficit has been reduced by 70% under Obama for 2 primary reasons: 1) the millions of people who have gone back to work, generating more prosperity and more tax revenue, 2) a 3% increase in the tax rate for people making over $400,000 a year.

You acknowledge that Obama has turned away more illegals at the border than any other president yet you still call that "cooking the books". Your hypocrisy is amazing.

This article does not claim to be a comprehensive summary. Read the title. It is 14 undisputed facts about the Obama presidency. I do not claim that everything is wonderful, only that there are many important facts that go unnoticed.

There are many reasons our economy hasn't improved even more than it has.

We would be doing much better if Republicans had worked with President Obama instead of working to make the country fail. We would be far better off if Republicans had not killed every single jobs bill that was proposed in the past 6 years. The poverty numbers would be significantly better if we raised the minimum wage. There would be hundreds of thousands of new jobs created if we spent the needed money to fix our crumbling infrastructure.

Unfortunately, Republicans said they would make it their number one priority to make this president fail and they don't care what impact that has on the American people.

They used the filibuster 505 times in 6 years to kill anything and everything that had a chance to improve the economy or create jobs. They did not just filibuster bills they opposed, they filibustered everything, even bills that Republicans co-sponsored.

It is humorous how Republicans "blame" President Obama for the negative effects of the Sequester but they take "credit" for the Sequester when it comes to reducing the deficit. You really have no sense of irony do you?

I could easily delete the comments from conservatives like you who use lies and half truths to advance their cause but I find it necessary to set the facts straight in the face of all the lies and hypocrisy.

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liladybugz26 16 months ago from Cambridge

Congrats for your hub going viral! It's all over FaceBook. Very well written, and makes me even prouder. Thank you!

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Cee EffJay 16 months ago

I usually don't waste my time with such delusional articles but there just might be someone ELSE who believes this crap.

Unemployment fell because they no longer count people who ARE STILL UNEMPLOYED but gave up looking.

It is IMPOSSIBLE for Obama to have cut the defect since he will be the FIRST 2 term President to NEVER HAVE PASSED his own budget. Thank the Republicans' Sequester for cutting the defect.

And just to expose how these supposed "FACTS" are bogus, just look a the "number of illegals deported". Another blatant lie but telling as to how this Administration cooks the books for their gullible followers to post articles like this. The Administration changed the definition of deported. They add the people turned away at the border as "deported" to quadruple the REAL numbers.

It's more shameful smoke and mirrors for the kool-aid crowd.

Sad and pathetic that it works with so many.

As I read the comments above, most of the REAL stats have been posted.

And the comparison to Reagan is laughable. In Reagan's THIRD YEAR he had the GDP up to 8%!

Obama's 6th year and OVER 8 TRILLION Dollars later (NOT counting the $3 TRILLION Fed printing for Wall Street) and HIS GDP was MINUS 0.7%

And cherry picking PRIVATE sector data is also shamefully deceptive. In August of 2011 there were ZERO JOBS CREATED so any "straight months" record you THINK Obama has, is an outright lie.

The DOW records are not only the phoniest of Obama's "accomplishments" it also exposes the HYPOCRISY of the left. In 2008, Obama was going to jail all the bankers and Wall Street crooks and most of you Liberals joined Occupy Wall Street... NOW? Al, of you OWS are now DOW Jones cheerleaders... LAUGHABLE.

The FED has printed OVER THREE TRILLION Dollars to prop up the DOW and to pay back ALL of Obama's Fat Cat 1%er Donors on Wall Street... And you liberal SAPS cheer the DOW as the rich get richer on WS and YOU pay more at the Supermarket because Obama's FED Printing has devalued the Dollar WORLD WIDE.

At the close of 2014, Obama's SIXTH year as President, Annenbergs PolitiFact shows that there are FIVE AND A HALF MILLION MORE people in POVERTY than when he took office.

And if you would like to impugn Annenberg, don't bother. They're a LEFT wing org. that actually employed Obama once.

To spew lies and half truths is not only intellectually disingenuous but disrespectful to the people adversely effected by the WORST President since WWII (Left Wing WashPost Poll).

And why? Just because you were stupid enough to vote for him twice? Ideology and pride over people?

Take a look in the mirror before you defend this defenseless disaster of a President.

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jeff61b 16 months ago Author

Jimmy -

You don't appear to have read the title of this article. It is not intended to be a complete encyclopedia of Obama facts. It is a list of facts that most people don't seem to know (or have forgotten).

There are a lot of commonly repeated misconceptions and falsehoods about the Obama presidency. The purpose of this article is to state facts that correct those misconceptions.

When Obama took office in January 2009, our economy was losing 750,000 jobs per month. The unemployment rate was rising by nearly half a percentage point each month. Economists said we were heading toward 20% unemployment and another Great Depression.

It was quite an accomplishment that Obama brought the rising unemployment rate under control in just a few months. For the unemployment rate to peak at 10.1% and then begin dropping was a great improvement over what economists had predicted.

I invite you to read the entire article and keep in mind that this is simply trying to remind Americans about these facts and to counter the constant barrage of falsehoods and distortions by right wing media.

Jimmy 16 months ago

Christopher Arlotta,

First I would like to give you props for actually answering these posts. The problem with this article is the same with everyone involved in politics they pick and choose data to make their point. Now, I only read a small part of your article, I stopped when I realized what you were doing.

“10.1% in October of 2009 to 5.4% by Spring of 2015” You choose the end of his first year to measure the unemployment he started with. Obama’s inauguration took place on Jan 20th 2009 at that time unemployment was 7.8%. It rose to over 8% and remained there until Aug of 2012.

It seems to prove your point you pick and choose data from random dates within Obama’s time in office to make him look better. Be honest and judge the man the way you would any other, If you would be critical of Bush be the same with Obama that’s allows people to make a decision based on the truth rather than a fabricated notion which it what this is. I’m affiliated with a party, I voted Obama the first time but not the second.


Larry Wall 16 months ago

What this Hub proves is that because of the Internet any one can rattle off a list of charges, alleged data, limited sources and create the picture you want to create. I pay more for health insurance than I did with the limited policies that were available to me prior to the ACA. If you did not get sick or take numerous medications you are probably paying more. If you had real insurance or a real group policy, you are paying about the same. With all due respect to the author of the Hub, this horse has been beaten to death. I would recommend that comments be halted because some of the participants are not being truthful.

sogo 16 months ago

The responses regarding this article proves Americans have never been so divided. After WW2, even with disagreements, citizens remained united for the good of our country. I blame the media for creating this widening division broadcasting opinions rather than news.

ALM 16 months ago

I say I must disagree with this posting in several different ways. I'll start with Unemployment being linked to ObamaCare. President Obama has driven many businesses out of the US with the ObamaCare act. It forces businesses to utilize the higher priced health care system, driving cost up, which ultimately causes them to "let people go", thousands of people have been laid off because their company doesn't want to pay for ObamaCare. Though I do agree that unemployment has gone down, I don't believe it is because people are getting jobs, I think it's because they have dropped off of the radar (become homeless).

Our national debt is up from when WB was in office. In 2008 it was an already shocking 10 trillion dollars and is now an always rising (and can never be paid off) 18 trillion.

In the last six and half years the Obama's have taken more vacations than any other president, costing us tax payers approximately 44 billion dollars as of last year.

Acts of "terror" have come to an all time high. These people come in under our noses and start blowing people up. ISIS have threatened that within a year from now they will have wiped out one our major cities. But in Obama's view our biggest problem in global warming.

Jobs are being lost all the time to illegals who sneak across (or under) our border. Many are undercover, bringing in ISIS weaponry and mercenaries. I don't blame the ones who come here for a better life, but they need to come in the legal way. I was born and raised here, I pay taxes and have struggled to gain my first degree. Most of them don't pay taxes (though they're working), they get better health care, better scholarships, free and affordable housing, while I'm working my butt off to even have a degree.

The upper class were not the only ones to suffer from the raise in taxes last January. Everyone lost a little under a third of monthly earnings.

Unfortunately if our dependence foreign oil had gone down as much as you say, our war overseas would be about done. Obama has worked hard to kill the Keystone pipeline. Having oil coming from Canada instead of overseas.

In my opinion his major goal was to make our country into a socialized Utopia. Well we all know what happens when a "leader" starts on that path. It has happened several times in the history of the world and has never ended like a fairytale. It ends with some horrific tragedy, worse than the twin towers, and that was unthinkable. He was elected because he promised this and that as every president does. Some of which he has done, but nothing that has been for the good of our country in the long run. That is why our founding fathers limited the presidency to two terms, so no one president could change, control, or do too much damage. They used to do their jobs, acting from the field and not behind their desk. We've sunk pretty low and our elected officials care more for what's in their pockets than the people who gave them the job. The major issues have fallen to the sidelines and been replaced by Obama making an eloquent speech about why he "knows" they aren't the problems we are facing.

Look, I'm an independent, I believe in some of each and just in good old-fashioned moral values. The Constitution and Declaration of Independence must have been written for a good reason, to give our country guidelines. That we might grow and thrive, overcoming the hard times, and marching fearlessly forward. The way Obama acts he must think he is king of the castle. I just hope that when he is out of office, some of the damage can be undone, other countries will stop laughing at us, and we will rise from the ashes as a we have again and again.

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jeff61b 16 months ago Author

Christopher Arlotta –

Everything you stated has been said by others. You simply don’t believe what you don't want to believe and insist it is not true just because you said so.

The sixty five months of economic expansion and the longest period of private sector job growth are true and undisputed.

When the standard unemployment rate, which has been used for every president for two centuries shows that unemployment has been cut in half, you suddenly decide that we need to use a different measurement of unemployment - which also shows that "real" unemployment was much higher under Reagan, Bush and Bush.

The Federal Budget deficit for 2009 was George W. Bush’s deficit, not Obama’s.

You are also wrong when you say these numbers do not reflect the spending from the 2009 stimulus. It, in fact does include that, which you would know if you had checked the sources.

There was only a 1.4% annual increase in spending during Obama's first few years - that includes the spending from the stimulus. The links are right there in the article.

The 3.3% annual increase includes all spending and Obama STILL has smaller increases in spending than Reagan, Bush or Bush.

It’s actually 16 million more Americans who have health insurance thanks to Obamacare.

Premiums have gone up at a slower rate than they were rising before the Affordable Care Act. Your term “skyrocketing premiums” was a lie. Millions of Americans have received refunds from their insurance companies thanks to the Affordable Care Act.

13 years were added to the life of Medicare and it had nothing to do with raising taxes. The ACA saved hundreds of billions in wasteful spending which were used to extend the life of Medicare.

By the way, you forgot that the shoe bomber, the anthrax attacks and the terrorist attack on the Los Angeles International Airport (July 4, 2002 - Google it) all occurred under Bush, not Obama.

Nobody is suggesting that the economy is perfect, but the last time Republicans gave us a Great Depression, it took a decade to bring us out of it. The progress recovering from this depression has been considerably more robust but still has a way to go.

Larry Wall 16 months ago

To Will Star:

The oil boom was not primarily on private lands. Most of it was from the Gulf of Mexico territorial waters, public lands, 16th sections and so on. Three universities in my state, built on public lands, received tremendous bonuses for the right to use directional drilling and fracking. I was the PR director for the Louisiana Mid-Continent Oil and Gas Association for 23 years--I know what I am talking about. Fracking--the use of horizontal (which are really more diagonal) and water treated with certain chemicals was a concern. Changes were made and few are complaining any more.

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WillStarr 16 months ago from Phoenix, Arizona

The point, Larry, is that Obama took credit for something he had no part in, and that was the current oil boom, all on private land.

Larry Wall 16 months ago

"And as Christopher Arlotta also pointed out, Obama now takes credit for an oil boom he opposed all the way! That, my friends, take real gall." according to one comment.

Before the BP spill, Obama had set in motion efforts that would allow drilling off the east coast and other areas. He also prevent the EPA from stopping the use of fracking to capture oil and under any other recovery method would not be viable. I was working for an Oil and Gas trade group at the time and know first hand that he was supportive of the oil and gas industry. His cash for clunkers, got many vehicles that got few miles per gallon and polluted a lot off the road. It also indirectly slowed down the frezny about ethanol, solar power cars, etc.

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WillStarr 16 months ago from Phoenix, Arizona

Christopher Arlotta very artfully demonstrated exactly how Obama uses the ruse of lying with statistics. For instance, if you create a massive deficit of a trillion dollars in your first year in office, then yes, you can claim (dishonestly!) that you cut the deficit that you yourself created!

And as Christopher Arlotta also pointed out, Obama now takes credit for an oil boom he opposed all the way! That, my friends, take real gall!

Christopher Arlotta 16 months ago

Anyone that needs to quote Wikpedia for their sources in a hack!

1. We've now had 65 straight months of economic expansion.

I checked the source and it’s filled with bad data – the labor participation rate does matter – there are 95 Million Americans NOT working – the real unemployment rate is still over 10% - that would be the U6 Unemployment Rate. During the last quarter – GDP actually shrank. We’ve had anemic growth of under 3% - sometimes under 2% over the last 6 years.

2. We are currently enjoying the longest period of private sector job creation in American history.

In one month during the Reagan Administration – over 1 million jobs were created. Most jobs being created now are part-time.

3. Unemployment has dropped from 10.1% in October of 2009 to 5.4% by Spring of 2015.

See above – real unemployment is still over 10% - BTW – back in 1992 – democrats crucified George HW Bush for an unemployment rate of 5%.

4. The stock market continues to set new record highs since President Obama took office.

Obama is in bed with the 1% - all that money from the stimulus went to his super-rich friends on Wall Street.

5. The Federal budget deficit is shrinking. It’s been reduced by two-thirds since 2009.

Fact – the deficit was increased by the stimulus in 2009 not included in the numbers above – so your data is starting at an already over bloated number. So shrinking the deficit from an astronomical number is easy for a Marxist to take credit for.

6. Under President Obama, government spending has increased only 3.3% annually, the lowest rate since Eisenhower was president.

Spending increased over $1 Trillion in 2009 – again not included in your percentages.

7. For 95% of American taxpayers, income taxes are as low or lower than they were at almost any point in the last 50 years.

Maybe the rates are lower – but we are paying more in taxes as a matter of real dollars – thanks to taking away deductions from middle-class families and giving more to those that don’t pay taxes via the EITC.

8. Dependence on foreign oil has shrunk due to record domestic oil production and improved fuel efficiency standards.

Thanks to private oil exploration and drilling/fracking. Obama and his ilk have cut drilling and exploration on public lands.

9. At least 10 million more Americans now have health insurance than before.

What about the other 305 million of us that have seen our premiums and deductibles skyrocket! The notion that we were going to save $2,500 per family was another lie by Obama.

10. The Affordable Care Act has added years to the life of Medicare.

Thanks to increased taxes – not lower healthcare expenses.

11. Since passage of the Affordable Care Act, we are seeing the slowest rate of increase in healthcare costs since 1960.

Where? All reports have seen 46 out of 50 stares where premiums and deductibles are up 20-40% on average.

12. We currently have fewer soldiers, sailors, and airmen in war zones than we did at any time in the last 11 years.

We also have the smallest navy in 40 years, the fewest active duty soldiers and can’t fight two wars at the same time if needed.

13. There have been zero successful attacks by al Qaeda on US soil since Obama became president.

Maybe not by al Qaeda – but we have been hit by others – ie Boston Bombers, Shoe Bomber, Underwear Bomber, to name a few.

14. We now successfully catch and deport more illegal immigrants than ever before.

Another lie from the leftists hacks at the Tampa Bay Times -

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WillStarr 16 months ago from Phoenix, Arizona

"There are liars, damn liars, and statisticians"

If Obama is so great, why do we have such a low workforce participation rate? Why has the US median annual income decreased several thousand under this glorious leader? Why have my health insurance deductibles, co-pays, and premiums soared under Obama, especially after he promised they would go down? Why is ISIS beheading Americans and thumbing their noses at America under Obama?

Sorry, but almost all the claims in this Hub are sleight of hand manipulations of the facts.

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jeff61b 16 months ago Author

Micheal -

Sorry, I looked it up. Gross Domestic Product under Obama, while not great, is improving and considerably better than the 2nd term of George W. Bush.

Michael 16 months ago

What a load. He is the first and ONLY President to ever have a net overall negative GDP.

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jeff61b 16 months ago Author

Don Law –

The unemployment rate being referenced in this article is the same unemployment measurement being used for the past 80 years. If you think it is all smoke and mirrors, then it was the same smoke and mirrors used to measure unemployment for the past century. Using the other measurement from the link you listed, the unemployment rate for every president in recent years would be nearly double what they were previously thought to be.

In either case, unemployment is going down steadily during Obama’s presidency. 12 million new jobs have been created since the Bush recession ended. Things would be even better but Republicans have killed every single jobs bill introduced in the past 5 years. Every. Single. One.

Jobs keep going to other countries with cheaper labor. That trend started decades before Obama became president and no president can do anything about it without the help of Congress. It will continue getting worse until Republicans stop giving corporations tax breaks for shipping jobs overseas.

Don Law 16 months ago .....the unemployment numbers are smoke and mirrors.... When you take into account those that have lost their unemployment benefits, due to the fact that their now 99 weeks worth of unemployment has run out... they fall off the Unemployment rate... those that have just stopped looking for work... and those that are underemployed... the numbers are entirely different

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jeff61b 16 months ago Author

Richard –

What planet are you living on? Obama did not cause the recession. It started a full year before he took office.

Unemployment was skyrocketing in January, 2009 before Obama even took office. Check the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Our economy was losing 750,000 jobs per month. It took him just a few months to stop the job losses and turn our economy around. Unemployment has been going down steadily for five years.

And Obama did not raise taxes during that first four years. He actually cut taxes for 95% of Americans as part of the stimulus package. He did not raise anyone’s income taxes until January, 2013 when he raised taxes 3% only on the wealthiest people – those who make over $400,000 per year.

The record budget deficit ($1.4 trillion) has been reduced under Obama to less than a third of what he inherited from Bush.

Why has the budget deficit increased under the last 3 Republican presidents (Reagan, Bush and Bush) and gotten smaller under the last 2 Democratic presidents (Clinton and Obama)? Because Democrats are better at stimulating the economy than Republicans.

Richard, please pick up a book or a newspaper and stop listening to right wing radio.

Richard 16 months ago

What I find interesting is that Obama caused all those problems to start with. They were not inherited it was obama that did all this.. like unemployment was normal until he got in.. then bam..raised taxed people lost houses etc which caused recession and boom.. Economy adjusted and is picking up. There was no success at all it's a democrat illusion to make people want and hope he has. We already know the deficit is higher then ever. The federal budget if you peeps remember was stopped by Republicans until they cut the red tape. Obamas holidays are about the same cost as what he has given and put back the economy.

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jeff61b 16 months ago Author

JC -

Did you say Forbes is a "leftist" source? Seriously? They are notoriously conservative. So is the Wall Street Journal.

That's why I used reputable news organizations as sources. I avoided using any liberal blogs or biased sources.

And I invite everyone to fact check what is written here. While some people have posted additional facts about the Obama presidency, nobody has managed to refute anything written in this article.

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Mark McCoy 16 months ago

Instead of arguing over who was the better president. How about acknowledging that our system needs to be more efficient. Everyone wastes so much energy fighting over political bullshit. Politics has plagued our ability to truly progress. If you want things to be different change your way of thinking.

jc 16 months ago

jeff... nearly every "source" you cite is from Forbes, Washington Post, NBC, "a White House report", NBC, oh and my favorite Wikipedia... hardly unbiased there, all very leftist... you can't truly post an "unbiased" blog with "facts" sourced from very biased sources. Try researching the CBO for our countries financial states (both present and future). Those paint a very different outlook... so thanks for you very "unbiased" article with very biased sources.

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jeff61b 17 months ago Author

Hey Iman Americanman,

Loved your hilarious comments. You represent the most ignorant segment of the conservative base in this country. You cite fake quotes from Obama and state fake “facts” about him and you give no source for either. Yet you believe these things without question because it is what you want to believe.

Thank you for the entertaining post.

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jeff61b 17 months ago Author

Cynthia L. Dodge –

Is there a full moon tonight? As I was reading your hysterical ramblings, I thought to myself, surely she’s going to call Obama another Hitler and darned if I wasn’t right!

You talk about all these terrible, illegal things Obama allegedly wants to do but here we are in the 7th year of his presidency and he has made no effort whatsoever to do any of these things. He had better get busy!

Every word you wrote is very entertaining fantasy and I know I could not for a moment dissuade you from your delusional beliefs by using logic and reason, so I will not even try.

I hope you enjoy your psychosis.

Cynthia L. Dodge 17 months ago

When he fails to carry out the duties entrusted him, it's up to Congress to impeached him! As disagreements aren't grounds for impeachment, I think his opposition towards white Americans, condoning rioting, the first lady crying that our museums are 'racist', both crying out that our Constitution is unjust and needs changing, siding with Sharia Law over American laws and Constitution, and overstepping Congress allowing illegal immigrants into our country - THEN wanting to bring in millions of Muslim immigrants, knowing that's how many Jihad ISIS Radical Muslims will infiltrate? Yes, I'd say Congress is out of control for not impeaching him by now!!

As for our country's financial issues, maybe he did help (as in your above article), but the poor who are on food stamps, housing, and Obamacare? Many are service men, women and their families because of severe cutbacks to our Military. And therefore, I don't believe all of your 14 "facts" are the full truth.

The lower unemployment status is usually due to those who's unemployment ran out, may have achieved low-paying summer jobs, or went back to college!! Umm, may be due to some actually finding decent jobs, but the unemployment counts will go up, quite steeply if anymore immigrants are allowed in!!

The worse is his, the first lady, Al Sharpton, Mayor Blake of Baltimore, along with many other cabinet appointees race-baiting! With actual statements like "I'd like to see a white person shot by a black person'! The condoning and conspiring have been way to evident during his last term.... And I don't think this president is going down without kicking and screaming - He likes his Kingdome, therefore it's deeply felt he's planning to:

Thrust this great Nation into a chaos of race-rioting by through condoning the killing of white people. Where they want to "make white Americans" suffer for what their ancestors once did. At the same time use this strategy to change our Constitution, destroying our Freedom, and Liberties as they now stand. But he must first assert a first-time "National/Federal Police Force" (anywhere rioting is "out of control") through the use of race-baiting a war against policing, whites, and Christian Americans; Then he can initiate a declaration of "national emergency"; Then from there assert "martial law" so there's 'now' a 'reason' to take guns from legal gun owners (what has been one target ever since Sandy Hook School shooting); Then "WAR POWERS" can be asserted; And that's when elections can be halted, so Obama can stay in power - Becoming Americas first "dictator" (another Hitler)! He lacks 'conscientious morality'' of who or how many American's may be killed just so he gets his way! This is treason and blatant conspiracy of a psychopath!!

Our economy? What do you think will happen when he's done? Our Congress is totally irresponsible for not impeaching him... So do it, before it's too late - Or is it already? And you know what? I also voted for Obama, twice, but after seeing how Jihad Muslims are in America asserting American rights, yet do not wish to go by American laws, yet Obama wants to bring in more Muslim "refugees" and Americans aren't supposed to be concerned? Something's really wrong here!!

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jeff61b 17 months ago Author

For those of you who disagree with, or dislike this article, please give some specifics or make some meaningful comment. I have, until now, always kept all comments, positive or negative. But if all you are going to do is say this article is BS without elaborating or specifying what you disagree with, then I will no longer keep those kinds of comments.

Feel free to tell me this article is BS but put some thought into your comments and don't just waste time with pointless insults.

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jeff61b 17 months ago Author

Mark -

It must give you some sense of satisfaction to just say "its not true" without offering any facts of your own.

Every fact in the article is backed up with links to source information you can verify for yourself.

Mark 17 months ago

seems if something or someone says something true u wont post it here since it would mean ur not creditable ...cuz if ur gonna print all this stuff that inst true why would post some whos telling the truth cuz this sure isn't

Mark 17 months ago

funny none of these things are true except maybe employment ..nope that's false also ..i guess oliar wrote this too

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CatherineGiordano 17 months ago from Orlando Florida

You have done a wonderful job of bringing these facts to people's attention. People should be saying "Thanks Obama" with sincerity and not sarcastically. I'm going to share this on my social media. It is just amazing that Obama has been able to accomplish so much with Republicans blinding obstructing him at every opportunity.

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jeff61b 17 months ago Author

Dots Lines -

1. Try as you might, you did not dispute any of the facts presented in the Forbes article.

2. Once again, you did not dispute the fact that we enjoyed the longest consecutive period of private sector job growth in history.

3. The drop in unemployment is a result of the more than ten million new jobs created under Obama (another fact you did not dispute).

5. The fiscal 2009 budget was proposed by Bush in 2008 and most of the bail outs occurred before Bush left office. This was Bush's budget, not Obama's.

6. Government spending increases under every president along with the increasing population but the rate of increase under Obama is far less than the rate of increase under Reagan, Bush and Bush.

Even the Washington Post article confirms that the rate of spending increase under Obama is lower than under Reagan and Bush. Far from disproving the Forbes article, the Washington Post simply says some people choose to attribute *part* of the 2009 deficit to Obama but it is still almost entirely Bush's deficit.

In the end, you never really disputed any of the facts stated in the article, you just tried to cast doubt on the sources or offer your opinion about it but the facts remain undisputed.

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DotsLines 17 months ago

The usual Obamatron half-truths and outright lies:

1) "Forbes magazine (which is no fan of President Obama) crunched the numbers and demonstrated how the economic recovery under President Obama has been better in just about every measurable way than the recovery under President Reagan."

"Forbes magazine" did and said no such thing. It was a BLOG post, by a "contributor", not a Forbes staffer and certainly not something subject to their editorial board.

2) "We are currently enjoying the longest period of private sector job creation in American history."

In at least some of those months, the number of FULL-TIME jobs went DOWN, and was offset by part-time, low-paying jobs.

3) "Unemployment has dropped from 10.1% in October of 2009 to 5.4% so far."

This reflects the number of people who have dropped out of the workforce and are no longer counted. Labor participation has been hovering just below 63%, an almost 40-year low.

5) "The $1.4 trillion federal budget deficit that Obama inherited in 2009 ..."

This would be one of those outright lies I mentioned. Obama did not "inherit" a $1.4 trillion deficit. There was over a trillion dollars in spending that fiscal year which was not in Bush's budget. HE ran it up that high, and now that he's been reined in back to a third of the ridiculous level he ran it up to (STILL higher than the deficit would have been following Bush's last budget), you want to point to that as a SUCCESS?

6) "Under President Obama, government spending has increased only 3.3% annually, the lowest rate since Eisenhower was president."

This one is half-truths, deliberate misleadings, and outright lies. First, it's ludicrous to use percentage growth. Reagan's higher percentage growth, for example, resulted in an increase of only $321 billion over his whole presidency - Obama has doubled that.

Also, I'll point out AGAIN that your source is not "Forbes magazine" but a BLOG on Forbes' site. If we're going to go that route, your second link, although it says Forbes, actually leads to a Washington Post article that disputes the figures you're touting, and also points out that what Obama WANTED to spend was even more - it was Republicans who held the line (the much talked-about "obstructionism").

I'd go on, but why bother? It's a well-known axiom that you can't use facts or logic to argue against faith, and you Baracolytes, obviously bucking for a job opening in the White House public relations office, are full of nothing but faith.

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jeff61b 17 months ago Author

lie detector -

Clearly you cannot refute any of the facts listed in this article so you decided to go ALL CAPS and shout insults instead of offering anything substantive or meaningful.

Kevin Paul Condon 17 months ago

It takes a lot of self-control to leave this alone. The list will only work with low information voters who get their news from partisan Democratic media and John Stewart and Colbert. The reason the major media are collapsing is their bias is too ridiculous to buy unless you restrict your information sources to the ones they control and they are losing control due to the expansion of alternative media on the web and cable and radio. Just a little exposure to the alternative and you would see the problems in this list.

Larry Wall 17 months ago

Mr. Creech, the shovel jobs did not happen because Congess did not provide the funding. As far as those who have given up looking for work, that is a misleading term. When a person is not paying income taxes, Social Security taxes or drawing unemployment, he may have given up. He may have died. His age was such he could draw on his 401K or IRA. When you are looking for reasons the justify your dislike of a person, it is easy to find evidence--not always factual, but evidence--sort of.

Mr. Yarger, I was unemployed for almost six months when I was in my 20s. When I turned 59 I was released from my last job for unspecified reasons. The unemployment numbers have always been figured in the same manner. Many jobs are lost because private business expects government subsidies in one way or another. In Louisiana we have a 10-year tax exemption for new industrial projects. Actually, it is five years with a one time extension. Sometimes, the companies do not meet their promised goals of job creation. Hence, they do not get the second five years. Instead of working harder. they lay off the people and close the doors and add to the national unemmplyment number. Thus, it was a state action that increased unmeployment in that case and it is often state action. My state is facing a budget deficit. It is not filling many positions and has convinced many others to take early retirement. That is the action of the governor and legislator. Learn how the system works before you start facing blame. You do not like Obama. I suspect I know the real reason and I do not think it is unemployment numbers.

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jeff61b 17 months ago Author

It seems to be a common trait among Obama haters that they reject any facts or statistics that reflect well on the Obama administration.

Obama has created at least 3 times as many jobs in 6 years as GW Bush created in 8 years. That is an undisputed fact.

Jeff Yarger 17 months ago

These are numbers are from his administration's contrived and inflated/deflated figures. For example, unemployment is still way above 10%. Government figures only factor in those appling for unemployment compensation and give no consideration for the under-employed or those who have given up on looking for work.

Even if theses figures were actual, they would be in spite of obama, not because of him!

Larry Wall 17 months ago

It is always refreshing to hear an objective point a view. I hope it happens some day. Ms. Reeves, you are entitled to your opinion. I , nor did the author of this Hub, say that Mr. Obama was perfect and that everything he did was correct. The Hub pointed out what the author considered accomplishments. For the most part, I am in agreement with him, except for the oil incentives. The President did propose those incentives, but they were put on hold after the BP well explosion. I worked for the oil industry this in a Public Relations capacity and speak from first-hand knowledge. I do not know what you mean about a fake war against women, the servicemen burial issue has popped up before with every President since the Korean war and it is always resolved. It is an issue that is regularlly resolved, but some will not wait for the paperwork to be straightened out. I did not vote for Mr. Obama when he ran against Senator McCain. I think the Nobel Peace Prize Committee acted to hastedly in awarding him the Nobel Peace Price for what he might do.

I was born in 1951. I live in Louisiana. In 1960 I was 13 and a supporter of President Kennedy, as was my family, while all my friends and their families supported Nixon. I remember classmates running around, laughing that Kennedy had been shot. They did not understand what was happening. Was I a lot smarter--no I was not. My family for all their flaws, and there were many, was more open on political issues than most of the people I knew. President Obama surprised me in his first term, and I did not hesitate to vote for him in his second term, which was the apparent view of the people. The unfortunate part in all of this that instead of intelligent dialogue, we are getting insults, and half-truths.

I respect your right to voice your opinion. The Constitution guarantees your that right, and it guarantees me the right to express my opinion. Whether conservations were going to be held in a professional manner or result in name-calling and insults were probably not the intent of the founding fathers. The first amendment protects that right. If you had a stroke in the past, you need to tone down your rhetoric and give consideration that other people may have valid views. You do not have to accept them or agree with them, but you should respect the right for fellow Americans to express their views without having to deal with the attitude you put forth in your comment. This is only my opinion. I am 64 and have seen a lot of good things and not-so-good things in this country. Mr. Obama is my President. Until he fails to carry out the duties entrusted to him, or until he is impeached by the Congress, which is unlikely, because a disagreement is not grounds for impeachment, I will support him when I think he is right and voice opposition when I think he is wrong.. Your fury should be directed toward the Congress that has been fragmented by political party politics. The issues no longer matter. In the eyes of Congress, it would appear that the only good laws are those proposed by their particular party. Clean up the Congress and you will see a lot of things get better.

CAR 17 months ago

Wow! What a great job you do in only telling part of the story! And it is interesting watching the sheople follow you! If anyone does the math, you can see that everything quoted comes after the collapse of our economy in 2007/2008. Since the numbers were so horrible, any small improvement can look enormous. The Dem's continue to mislead by using NEW methods of figuring the numbers. Any body could make the numbers look good if they change the method to calculate them. We have more people on food stamps than ever before. We have more un-employed and under-employed people than ever before. An amazing number of companies have moved to foreign countries, which further decreases the number of jobs. College students are swimming in 7% student loan debt, or even higher with minimal possibility of being hired to a job/career that can even come close to helping them pay it off in a reasonable amount of time. This decreases young people's ability to buy a home which stunts economic growth. I could go on and on, but I am certain that the Democrats and liberals will not agree with one word I've said. JFK was a democrat, yet even he recognized that it was not about what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country. Divide and conquer was never his plan. I love the ideals of the Democrats, but we live in a fallen world, and to believe that we can achieve peace through being PC is a dream. Jesus states it very clearly in the bible that we will always have the poor among us. Not only poor financially, but poor in love and humility. The only thing that will change that is if you choose to accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour and then our real"home" will truly have peace, love, rest, and the ability to suffer no more. He will get us through this life if we believe in Him, but our eternal glory will not be here in this sin laden world.

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jeff61b 17 months ago Author

Larry Wall -

Thank you for your views on my article. I always appreciate it when someone disagrees or analyzes my articles in a careful and reasoned manner.

Larry Wall 17 months ago

Jeff61b: You may hold the record for having the longest hub on any subject. I know I am late in this "discussion."

First, I would only disagree with one of your points, and that is oil production. Oil production is increasing because of the "fracking: or water fracturing method of production. Obama had a good set of incentives aimed at developing the east coast, but the BP disaster put those on hold. I was Public Relations Director for an oil and gas trade association and keep tract of these things was one of my responsibilities. You can safely say that oil and gas production has not dropped as was the case a few years ago.

The rest of your points I agree with or can accept. Every source is subject to some bias, even the sources used by those lashing out at you.

Prior to the Affordable Care Act, I could not get insurance. I was laid off at age 59. I had COBRA for a year and when I tried to buy a real policy, I was too old and my prior heath conditions were too numerous to even get past the agent, much less the underwriter. I had several hospitals stays. One was for 10 days at a cost $36,000 my insurance (if you can call it that ) paid $8,000. The hospital forgave the remainder of the debt as did the doctors, radiologists, emergency-room staff and all other hospital services that are contracted out to other vendors.

Has Obama been our best president? That will be decided in the next 50 to 75 years. Has he been the worse? No he has not. That was decided in the early part of the 20th century with the way President Hoover handled the "Great Depression."

If Obama was ineffective in his first term, how did he get elected to a second term? Is there a consensus among some of the commenters that anyone who believes that President Obama has done at least a good job are all ignorant or illiterate? (Read that last sentence closely, no one is being accused of being illerate. The question is only being asked.)

I am amazed at the attitude taken by some people. I know all people, including myself, will run or have ran across a Hub that just defies imagination. We have to come back to reality that each Hubber is exercising their right to free speech.

Remove the word accomplishments and change it to events during the Obama presidency, and the size of the anti-Obama chorus will decrease in size.

I did not like Richard Nixon--but he opened relations with China.

I did not dislike Gerald Ford, but his WIN program (whip inflation now) was silly. I voted for Carter but was very disappointed. I do not hold Ronald Reagan in the high esteem that some do. He did give us the Iran Contra affair. George W. Bush was good but made a promise that no president should make--no new taxes. He had to raise the gasoline tax by one penny. At that point, the price of gasoline dropped and no one noticed the penny. If Ross Perot had not drained off the conservative vote in a pointless campaign, Bush would have probably beaten Clinton. (Remember he is the guy who never had sex with that woman.)

Obama has accomplished a lot. Some of his accomplishments may be the "luck of the draw" because of other conditions that have occurred. However, in my opinion, the capture of Bin Laden and the Affordable Care Act is more than a lot of past Presidents ever though about accomplishing,

This was a good hub. I found one item I disagreed with, but the body of work is extremely well done. The reaction by many was not deserving and certainly not presented in a professional or polite manner.

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jeff61b 18 months ago Author

Donna Lambert -

All you have to do is Google any of these facts stated here and find out for yourself. It should be pretty easy to disprove them.

Cathy work 18 months ago

Not seeing all this??? Whereis this? Buried under a rock? What do we do play hide and seek to find all of this???

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jeff61b 18 months ago Author

I think its more like 7 trillion, Bob. But what's a couple trillion between friends.

Bob 18 months ago

And 9 trillion in debt. Nothing is paid for yet.

Hragus 18 months ago


"The Art of Propaganda" is an excellent book for you to read , especially the chapter on "Brainwashing"!

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jeff61b 18 months ago Author

Funny. It's so easy to tell who decided to comment without even reading the article.

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jeff61b 18 months ago Author

Mark - all of these accomplishments happened before Republicans took control of Congress.

But nice try.

Mark 18 months ago

And everyone should start giving Thanks, were the Thanks, is due. Thank, the Republican Congress!

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jeff61b 18 months ago Author

Scott - please feel free to prove any of this false.

I doubt you can since every fact has been carefully researched and backed up with sources. Good luck.

Kurt Hectic 18 months ago

jeff61b, you are too generous. One of the commentators violated your respect by openly insulting you and the site for your opinion*. Right there, he expressed non-consent to providing others an open environment for free exchange of opinions* (instead of respectfully walking away from the thread if he did not agree with it, the American way). In doing so, he refuted that for himself and lost the privilege to be listened to further. I didn't read any additional comments by that reader afterwards, but do appreciate your article. Thanks...

p.s. Now whomever does not agree, don't confuse my diplomacy with weakness as many weak-minded people do just before I crush 'em! ;)

* Even if the write-up included facts, it comes from a subject, making it a subjective perception and expression of facts. That is still OK and does not deserve hurling insults even if wrong.

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jeff61b 18 months ago Author

I love reading people's comments saying this is all bullshit without making any effort to refute any of the facts presented in this article.

Walter whte 18 months ago

This. Is all bullshit. Obama is tearing on up our country

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jeff61b 18 months ago Author

Barry Levy –

Bush inherited a budget surplus and left us with a $1.4 trillion deficit. He more than doubled out national debt from $5 trillion to more than $10 trillion.

Since Obama became president, our debt has increased to $17 trillion. Most of that debt came from 3 sources: the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Recession which put millions of people out of work, and the Bush tax cuts for the rich.

Since Obama became president the annual deficit has been reduced by 70%.

Food stamps and Welfare increased only because millions of people lost their jobs from the Great Depression that Bush left us in.

The trend from the last 30 years shows that twice as many jobs get created under Democratic presidents than Republicans. Our annual deficit gets smaller under Democratic presidents and it triples or quadruples under Republicans.

Everything has greatly improved under President Obama as he has dug us out of the terrible hole that President Bush left us in.

Yes, it's terrible when a president violates laws and his oath of office. Thankfully, Bush is gone and we have President Obama now.

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Barry Levy 18 months ago from Beverly Hills, California

and the debt has gone from $9 Trillion to more than $18 Trillion.

And the video is there for all to see, when B.O. made it a point that Bush was unpatriotic and irresponsible for increasing the debt from $5 Trillion to $9 Trillion and borrowing from the bank of china and leaving the debt for our children and grandchildren.

And mustn't forget the huge increase in food stamps, and welfare and the poverty rates.

But that is what happens when this president can't propose a budget that ever gets votes let alone passed, and has been violating laws and oath of office.

and the proof is that liberals would be castigating a republican if this is what was happening with them in office.

gin 18 months ago

Not sure when you have written this but I am looking into all these facts. For me facts are found to be true on government. Sites not other sites.

I'll admit things are getting better but not all of this is from Obama, it takes two houses to pass these laws. Everything can not be said that Obama was the direct result of these all coming to pass. Because he's not it takes two. Granted Obama has had great ideas, so has others, but one part of the government adds their little pit to the pie and messes it all up. Jeff would you please look into how this administration ( not saying its directly Obama) is treating the Veterans and the Military personnel and their families... That is a blog I would be very interested in seeing. You have opened my eyes to a few things but there are a few things this administration has done that has caused the US people to hate Obama so much... Right now they ate talking about "reforming" Tricare, to make it more like Obamacare or the ACA. They have already taken away many benefits from military personal, ( I know first hand and could show proof of the cut in BAH and the "raise" in BAS, that's over 100$ taken and only about 20$ given back). By showing you the difference on a LES. The way this administration is treating Vets and soldiers is why a lot of people do not like Obama. I do not like him for his treatment of soldiers and vets being a vet myself. The lies he gives out ( ex: No boots on Ground) and such is why people are mad!

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jeff61b 19 months ago Author

reeblite -

Here are several links to articles I've written.

reeblite 19 months ago

thanks for a great article jeff. do you have a facebook page? it's exhausting trying to educate with facts, these confused republican followers. maybe if they realized today's democrats are really 1950s republicans, they'd get it. they need to do a little research about one of the greatest presidents of our times, the only republican, former president, general dwight d. eisenhower.

our philosophies and ideals shifted conservatively over the years. it's the right that just went from republicans, to the moral majority, to the tea partiers that have pushed their party over the cliff.

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jeff61b 19 months ago Author

Jack Duncan -

You throw a lot of opinions out there with no facts. So I'll offer you my opinions with some facts sprinkled in as well. First, Obama begged and pleaded with Republicans to work with him throughout his entire presidency. Republicans used the filibuster over 500 times to prevent any legislation at all from getting passed. Obama only resorted to using executive orders, as defined by law, when Congress refused to take any action.

By the way, Obama has not raised anyone's taxes except those who make more than $400,000 per year. The rest of us did benefit from some temporary tax cuts he enacted during his first term to help stimulate the economy.

And the president has never acted like he is above the law. Republicans love to say things like that but they cannot and will not impeach him because after spending years and billions of dollars investigating him, they know he has broken no laws.

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Fred Arnold 19 months ago from Clearwater, FL

Jack, you do know the Founders of the Constitution put in place a president with enough power to stop congressional gridlock? Your whole argument falters in the face that Obama is just doing his job in the best way he thinks he can. You also place so many assumptions into your statement that it really shows a bias that takes away from your credibility. I mean, who was it that shut down the government the last two times? Yet, apparently, the democrats don't want to compromise. Eh, ignorance is bliss.

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Jack Duncan 19 months ago

Obama is disliked by Republicans because of his underhanded tactics ! He thinks he is above the law and better than the average person ! He tries to find ways to go around our Congresses laws ! If you or I did this we would be in jail ! Democrates love to tax us ! Wait and see how your taxes slowly rise ! They think they are fooling the American people ! Not me ! They only want to compromise the Republican Party ! They are not willing to even share ideas and barter with us ! A very sad group of people !

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jeff61b 19 months ago Author

TommyGunn -

I am glad to see a conservative take this attitude regarding the incredible letter written by Republican Senators to the government of Iran. Regardless of political philosophy, some things are just incredibly wrong, disloyal and illegal.

I respect the fact that your philosophical disagreements with President Obama do not cloud your judgment about this reprehensible act.

I've written to both of my senators who signed that letter and told them I am ashamed to have them represent our state.

TommyGunn 19 months ago

As a devout and strict constitutional conservative, I find myself in the odd position of visiting this article once again. My basic principles are such that the Constitution is the ultimate law, and any bills or laws that encroach on the Constitution must include a constitutional convention. I am also a strict believer in the chain of command, as taught by my many family members who served in the military.

A real world example of this is my cousin, a decorated sergeant in the US Army, and a devout Republican, Who had a medal presented to him by Pres. Obama, and proudly displays a picture of him with the president. Like my father, he explained that, whether you agree with the president, or even your superiors in the Armed Forces, A good soldier always follows and respects the chain of command.

This weeks letter to the government of Iran, penned by Sen. Tom cotton, a junior senator which is 65 days of experience, Is quite possibly the most reprehensible act bu a politician that I have witnessed in my lifetime. After reading the letter and thoroughly researching the details of the Logan Act, I am dumbfounded. The action by Sen. cotton and the other 46 senators must be dealt with. A minor by-product is how foolish and weak it makes our country look, in the eyes of the international community. The major by-product is that it sets a precedent for worse behavior, in the future. For years, I read daily about how Obama is a tyrant. This act by this rogue band of senators must be dealt with, with a heavy hand, by the judicial branch.

We are all Americans. We cannot let this disgusting, two party system continue to change us from the United States of America, to the divided states of America. I have never felt so much contempt for two members of my party. One being John Boehner and the other being Sen. cotton.

At this moment, I am embarrassed to be an American.

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greeneyedblondie 20 months ago

You see, everyone keeps saying there are more jobs but I can't find one anywhere (outside of hubpages of course). If anything there are just more part-time minimum wage jobs out there.

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JYOTI KOTHARI 20 months ago from Jaipur

Hi Jeff,

Thanks for a nice and well informing article. Obama has visited India recently and met Narendra Modi. This will boost Indo-American relationship that will benefit both the countries.

Rated up and interesting.

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jeff61b 20 months ago Author

Conservative3 –

Thanks for commenting.

You did not specify how President Obama has failed to show respect for our convictions so perhaps that’s a discussion for another day.

The total government debt was about 5 trillion dollars when George W. Bush became president. Bush, who inherited a budget surplus managed to immediately wipe out that surplus and more than double our national debt in only 8 years to 11.9 trillion dollars. (I’m attributing the $1.4 trillion deficit in 2009 to Bush because that spending was almost entirely allocated while Bush was president.)

So Obama inherited an $11.9 trillion debt and a 1.4 trillion annual deficit. That deficit remained above $1 trillion for a couple of years because of the Great Depression that Bush left us in. When ten million people lose their jobs, the economy takes a huge hit and there are hundreds of billions of dollars in tax revenue that are lost.

As our economy has improved and millions of people have gone back to work the deficit has been cut by two-thirds. So the roughly 6 trillion dollars in debt did not come from a wild spending spree but largely from the loss of tax revenue due to the Bush recession.

President Obama has increased federal spending only 3% during his presidency. By comparison, both Reagan and G.W. Bush each increased federal spending by more than 8%.

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jeff61b 20 months ago Author

Anthony Cerminaro –

In January, 2009 when President Obama was sworn in, the unemployment rate was 7.8% and rising faster than any time in history. Our economy was losing 750,000 jobs per month. In February, his first full month as president, the unemployment rate was 8.2%. At that rate of job loss, economists were predicting that unemployment would reach 20% before the recession bottomed out.

Anything government does to boost the economy usually takes months to have any significant impact. So the most optimistic scenario we could have hoped for is that the rate of job loss would slow down each month until the job losses ended and we started into positive job growth within a year.

And that is exactly what happened.

After the economic stimulus was passed, the rate of job loss – which had been increasing every month – began decreasing significantly. Unemployment did peak at 10.1% in October and began inching its way back down again.

By comparison, when Reagan became president, unemployment was at 7.5% and dropping. He inherited an economy that was improving. But within months after Reagan was sworn in, unemployment began rising and continued to rise for two full years until it peaked at 10.8%. It remained above 10% for nearly a year and did not drop below 7.5% until nearly 3 years after Reagan was sworn in.

So President Obama inherited a higher unemployment rate and a much worse recession than Reagan did but Obama turned the economy around in less than half the time it took Reagan to recover from a much milder recession.

conservative3 20 months ago

Hi Jeff,

I read your post after a friend of mine posted it on facebook. I appreciate your efforts to defend the president and explain the positive effect he has had on the US economy. I apologize on behalf of other conservatives who have been insulting or demeaning. I think it is important to celebrate the accomplishments of every president whether they are democrat or republican. The U.S. is a great nation, composed of great people on both sides of the party line, and I think it is important to celebrate that and respect each other. I hope what you said is true and Pres. Obama has helped our economy to grow! I would like to point out though that the reason conservatives like myself disagree with Obama on many different levels is because we have deep-seated beliefs about the dignity of the human person, made in the image of God, and Obama has failed to show respect for our convictions on many different levels. I had a question about the federal debt though. From what I looked up on .gov websites the gross debt is about 18 trillion, and that is not mentioned in the reference article you used as support for your statement. God bless.

Anthony Cerminaro 20 months ago

The unemployment rate when President Obama took office in January 2009 was 7%. It rose under President Obama's watch to the the October 10% figure that was cited above. The rate has fallen into the 5% range, yes, but cherry picking the top point for comparison smells like spin not fact.

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nicolas-ray 20 months ago from Stamford, CT

Fantastic article and one that I find refreshing. Tweeted to 6000 followers. Thanks for making my morning. 14 Facts About The #Obama #Presidency That Most People Don’t Know Great Article

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Fred Arnold 21 months ago from Clearwater, FL

Pretty eccentric ideas you got there lone77star. Do you get all your information from opinion blogs?


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jeff61b 21 months ago Author

lone77star –

Obama didn't start any wars. He did continue the war on terrorism which was authorized by Congress. But he brought the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to an end.

Oh and the video you saw of the guy being Tasered at a John Kerry speech happened back in 2004. If you can do math, that’s 5 years before Obama became president.

I too agree that corrupt bankers should have been arrested, as should most of the outgoing members of the Bush administration.

But you cannot argue that the economy hasn't profoundly outperformed the last two Republican presidents combined.

Please cite a source for your alleged quote by Obama about Gitmo. This claim is most likely as inaccurate as your other provably untrue statements.

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lone77star 21 months ago from Cebu, Philippines

In 2008, I supported Obama.

Obama is a traitor to his country. He has betrayed his oath to protect and defend the Constitution. Instead he has persistently shredded it.

The first inkling that he was a scumbag just like Bush is his receipt of the Nobel Peace Prize before doing anything. PR trick? Obama went on to become the bloodiest president in history, starting one war after another, against the wishes of Congress (illegal) and against countries that had done nothing to us.

Obama has signed into law legislation that further restricts our rights and shreds the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Under Obama, we now have less freedom of speech. You can be arrested and thrown in jail for speaking out. One online video shows a student being arrested and tazered for asking John Kerry a controversial question.

Obama has his Kill List which has included American citizens on it. WAKE UP PEOPLE! This is now the new Nazi Germany!

Instead of arresting corrupt bankers who ruined the economy in 2008, the government (Bush and Obama) rewarded the bankers with a near Trillion dollar bailout. Too big to fail? Dumb! Iceland arrested its corrupt bankers and is now thriving.

Don't look to Obama for the little things like improvements in the economy and gas prices. It's not his doing! Don't be idiots.

The economy is controlled by the corrupt, and private, Federal Reserve Bank. Oil prices are controlled by the Oil Cartel.

Obama said several months ago that of the people held in Gitmo prison, they should stay there indefinitely (forever) even if found innocent! Read that again, if you dare. It means that this president has been in the dark side forever. You're innocent and still go to jail?

For anyone to continue to support Obama after these facts are revealed is either an idiot or complicit in his crimes. Don't take my word for it. Check out the crack reporting of Ben Swann, even interviewing President Obama himself on some of these controversial topics.

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Fred Arnold 21 months ago from Clearwater, FL

I just paid $1.99 a gallon for gas! It feels good.

Anyway, Obama hasn't done a terrible job. The Presidents approval rating also means nothing. Almost every President has had an approval rating under 50% when they left office. Just so you know, the job is hard. He's making decisions for millions of people, and you can't make everyone happy.

On another note: I knew majority of these facts and some I did not know, so kudos on that and thanks for the information!

-Fred 21 months ago

A waste of breath....NO ONE will relent.....ever.....sad.

joe 21 months ago

haha, lies!

redman65 22 months ago

Im doing better than I ever have under this administration and I still don't know if I like I bet if you ask most people why they don't like him..they would say....ummm just doing way better and you can't refute that

thars3n 22 months ago

Jeff, this is all excellent information, and you have done admirably refuting the right-wing trolls on this comments board. Keep up the good work!

I can't wait for middle America to realize they've been voting against their own economic interests, driven mainly by fear and prejudice and manipulated by their representatives (who tend not to represent anyone except the most moneyed interests once they get to Washington). It's truly mind-boggling to witness, but primal hatred of the Other seems to get out the vote more than support for politicians who would help all Americans (even the haters), so it seems we're stuck with this train wreck for a Congress, at least in the short term. An informed electorate would help immeasurably, but so many Americans seem to revel in their ignorance -- it's revolting -- but I do feel blogs like yours can play a key part in informing the masses just how they're being lied to by entities like the Heritage Foundation and NewsCorp, if they would just bother to listen.

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jeff61b 22 months ago Author

Cardman58 - I suggest you Google the words "most admired world leader" and you will see that the most admired world leader for six years in a row is Barack Obama. Even in polls conducted in multiple countries, President Obama is the most admired world leader.

It seems unlikely that the United States' standing in the world has declined when the world admires our president more than any other political leader on Earth.

By the way, the US economy added another 321,000 jobs in November. At this rate, by the end of 2014 we will have created over 3 million new jobs this year alone.

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CardMan58 22 months ago

Jeff - Ended Really, when was a budget passed? Sequestration is in effect until 2021 unless a budget is passed.

Your reply to America regaining it's stature in the world just negates your entire article, because you clearly do not have an unbiased view and is an absurd comment.

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jeff61b 22 months ago Author

Cardman58 - Sequestration ended and the deficit continued to shrink. Try again.

America has regained its stature in the world that was lost during the Bush years. Other countries respect us once again.

Obama has guided our country out of a 2nd Great Depression and history will judge him as an excellent president.

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CardMan58 22 months ago

It's funny but not surprising, but Obama had nothing to do with a few of those things.

Sequestration played quite a role in those numbers, but with the unprecedented gleeful mainstream media reporting and covering his tail, so that the average man on the street think he walks on water.

Our standing in the worlds eyes hasn't been this low in my lifetime and 20 years from now he probably will be looked on as the worst president we've ever had.

Nancy 23 months ago

Obama is a genius....he has done great things for this country....too bad SOME people don't notice the FACTS....or should I say don't want to notice......they are too busy being parrots for the other side to ever notice anything he's done...God bless OUR President!!!

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jeff61b 23 months ago Author

Jimbo -

Obama supporters would only mourn the deaths of FBI agents. It's the NRA and the gun industry who cheer these events. After every tragic shooting gun sales go up and the gun industry rakes in huge profits.

It's interesting that you are quick to play the race card since in neither this article nor the comments did the author ever mention racism.

And yes, you are a troll. By definition, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous or off-topic messages with the intent of disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

So you're zero for 3 and I kind of doubt the part about loving God and country as well.

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jeff61b 23 months ago Author

SmythRadio -

Every one of these facts can be independently researched and verified. You never need to take my word for anything. But you will find they are all facts and nothing refutes that.

SmythRadio 23 months ago

Looks like you are going to have to revise these facts based on "Facts" that obama lied and people died. oh did i just say that ? that was rhetorical for you libs please im not really looking for an answer. Everyone of these "statements" are not "FACT" they are talking points to try to get you low info voters to believe complete crap.

Yeaaaaaah 23 months ago

Some people need to pay attention to what Greenspan said. Clinton's prosperity in his time was the result of Bush Sr. If you think the policies enacted within even a dual term presidency have anything to do with the over all economic changes during that tenure you're either an idiot or naïve or both.

Brandon 23 months ago

While some of those are positive, some are "positive" and have twisted the truth. Even though I want Obama out of office as soon as possible, I can admit there are a few things he has done. However, he has luckily fallen into others, and some things are just plain wrong but twisted to sound good. Tell the truth, but don't reach for it.

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Tristan Bills 23 months ago from Salt Lake City, Utah

Facts have a liberal bias.

It's almost worth givin' him our guns! ... Almost!

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jeff61b 23 months ago Author

AnAmericanMom –

Not everything that happens - whether good or bad - to every family in a country of 300 million people is a direct result of actions from the president.

The only real downsizing of our military has been the reductions due to the draw down of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. If this resulted in the loss of your husband’s job, that is extremely unfortunate but overall, it greatly benefits our country.

This article pointed out facts that show improving trends in our country over the past 5 years. President Obama could probably take credit for some of those positive trends. That does not mean every family in America has seen their situation improve. Some people lose their jobs through no fault of their own even during the best of times.

I hope that you and your family will see some benefit from the improving economy that millions of other families have already seen.

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Katrina Hooper 23 months ago

Newbie here, How do I post your article to my Facebook page?

AnAmericanMom 23 months ago

I came across your post because a friend posted it on Facebook. I was shocked to hear your "facts" or "comments" I am not sure weather they are facts or not, I did not do the research. Even if I did, I have a very hard time believing anything that is posted on the Internet or on TV. I feel like we are lied to constantly. As an average American mom, I just don't know what to believe and who to trust. I have never posted on any kind of blog before, but I would like to hear what you would say about this:

(I apologize ahead of time if this gets wordy and lengthy)

First off, I voted for President Obama the first election. The second, I did not. I based my decision not from any media reports, numbers, or statistics. It was solely off my own situation.

Prior to Obama being in office, we were an average middleclass family. My husband worked on a government base, but was a privately contracted employee and made around$100,000 a year. I had a decent job making approximately $40,000- $50,000 a year. We have two children. We had lived in our home for 5 years. We lived in, I would say, the cheapest neighborhood in a very desirable area. We did not live above are means, and were doing all the things that you should to protect yourself and family. We carried good insurances, saved for retirement and to send our kids to college, ect. We did not have credit card debt. We vacationed 1-2 times a year, went out to eat regularly, we didn't worry about money. My husband was even pursuing his masters degree in business and I was taking college classes as well. For us, we were doing very well and happy.

After Obama came into office, everything changed. My husband lost his job, due to the extensive military downsizing by Obama. (I do know this to be a fact, my husband works on a military base as a civilian employee now). He had to take a $40,000 + pay cut. Due to the declining economy, my income decreased approximately 25% (my hours were reduced) as well. My husband tried to find a better job utilizing his business degree, but there was nothing. He took the only position he could find that would work with his availability, for $12 an hour. My husband is well educated. He has his batchelors in aviation science, his pilots licence, his MBA, and all he could find was a $12 an hour job. I also took on a second job, as a waitress. We did this to try and keep our home, we felt it was our responsibility pay our debt, not foreclose like everyone else around us. Meanwhile, our children never saw us. They were being raised by caregivers. After 2 years of my husband working almost everyday, and all of the additional hours myself, we called it quits. Our children were more important than a house. We had to foreclose, our home was now worth $80,000 less than what we purchased it for 5 years ago. And that's not including the $60,000 in home improvements we made out of our own pocket.

As of now, we live in a very small home that my husband lived in before we were married. Luckily, we kept the property and rented it out with plans to sell it as part of our retirement funds. My husband did a nine month program to become a paramedic for a better paying second job. He still usually works 6 days a week, unless he uses his vacation or sick days to have a day off. I was laid off 2 months ago and cannot find another job within my field. We couldn't even help our son purchase a car. We have no idea how we are going to send him to college in a year and a half. We were hoping for a music scholarship but we had to cancel his lessons because we couldn't afford them. We are no longer putting away for retirement, we do not carry as good of insurance policies as we once did, and are $2000 and counting, in credit card debt. My husband's feet hurt everyday, he is on them so much.

I don't understand how this happened. Where did we go wrong? I thought we were doing everything right. The funny thing is, the majority of the people we know are in the same situation or worse.

So, my question for you is...

how did President Obama help us? I am not seeing the improvements you are speaking of. What are the statistics of families like us? As I said before, the majority of the people we know are in the same situation. Honestly, I don't care about numbers and statistics, what's important to me is what's going on in my life right now and what is to become of my family's future. As of now, I don't see much improving in our near future. I would just love to stand before President Obama and ask him, when is the light at the end of our tunnel going to show up?

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Katrina Hooper 23 months ago

This article is such a great example of how lucky we are to have had him as our president. When the country isn't feeling euphoric, the majority of the country seems to always find things to incessantly complain about; especially during a second term. People have to criticize and complain because every single election promise did not magically materialize when other issues just as important were brought into legislation.

The past 7 years have been amazing to watch as an impressive amount of unexpected legislation for civil rights has made our country a better place to live in.

However, people seem to have such short memories when it comes to the good or even the amazing victories a President gifts the country with.

These improvements are often forgotten in the dark shadows of dissatisfaction from those who aren't satisfied with anything short of miraculously perfect.

Any person we elect to lead our country executes one of the most important, complicated, challenging, and stressful jobs in our nation...and not one Commander in Chief's presidency will ever be free of mistakes or reports of scandal, big and is what they do to to remedy the mistakes, how they handle the scandals, but most importantly what measures they took to radically improve our nation as a whole that will matter in the future.

Thanks for writing this article Jeff; reminding Americans how good we have it right now...and how bad it used to be...because apparently a majority of them have forgotten...per usual.

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jeff61b 23 months ago Author


Thanks for writing back. You have no idea how much I enjoy your comments. There are some smart conservatives who disagree with me and post reasonably intelligent comments on this article. And then there are people like you who simply parrot the most primitive, right-wing claptrap.

Of course you reject all the “lamestream media” which tells me where you must get all your information.

It’s interesting that you list state taxes that have been increased. What do state taxes have to do with the federal government? Do you think Obama has something to do with raising state taxes? That has nothing to do with what was written in the article.

Your attempts to rewrite the history of the Iraq war contradicts even what George Bush and Dick Cheney said about that war. Neither Bush nor Cheney claim that WMDs were found in Iraq. That's a desperate right wing claim.

It’s clear you get your “news” from the most extreme right wing web sites. Tell Alex Jones I said “Hi”.

VladSon 23 months ago

Your an idiot if you think and believe what the biased lamestream media feeds you. There have been things reported as FACT by the left that has proven to be absolutely false. Not even half true, but completely false.

Keep drinking to kool-aid. I don't make $400,000 a year and my taxes went UP. 10 part-time shit jobs being created, at or near minimum wage, doesn't equal 2 REAL jobs.

California in May added 0.25% to each income tax bracket, retroactive to January 1, 2009

Delaware in June added a new top rate of 6.95% on income over $60,000 retroactive to January 1, 2009.

Hawaii in May added three new brackets retroactive to January 1, 2009: 9% on income over $150,000; 10% on income over $175,000; and 11% on income over $200,000.

North Carolina in August imposed a tax surcharge of 2% on those with incomes over $60,000 and 3% on those with incomes over $150,000, retroactive to January 1, 2009

Wisconsin in June added a new top bracket: 7.75% on income over $225,000.

Shall I go on? So much for your 400k theory.

The REAL unemployment rate is closer to 12.6% Despite the significant decrease in the official U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) unemployment rate, the real unemployment rate is over double that at 12.6%. This number reflects the government’s “U-6” report, which accounts for the full unemployment picture including those “marginally attached to the labor force,” plus those “employed part time for economic reasons.”

The US withdraw from IRAQ created a vacuum for ISIS. You probably don't even know why we went to Iraq. It wasn't WMD's (Which by the way was proven that they did, in fact, exist. Another left media lie) Try researching Resolution 1441. It was the violation of the 17th resolution, of which the UN voted for and agreed to, that we went into Iraq.

Thanks for proving my unspoken point that lefties believe what their spoon fed instead of thinking for themselves.

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Thanks for sharing the most uneducated views thus far on this page. You make the other poorly informed commenters look intelligent by comparison.

The number of government jobs has gone down, not up, because of the sequestor and other budget cutting.

The Labor Department compiles raw data about companies hiring and firing people and the trend is that about 250,000 jobs are being created each month. That will be close to 3 million jobs this year alone. That's more than the net jobs created over 8 years under George W. Bush.

Most Americans did not see an income tax increase. 95% of Americans benefited from some temporary tax cuts from 2009 to 2012.

The ONLY people who's taxes went up when the Bush tax cuts expired were people who make over $400,000 per year.

And you think it was a good idea to stay in Iraq? You want dozens of dead American coming home each month in body bags and even more coming home missing an arm, a leg or worse?

ISIS exists because of the Iraq war. Keeping American troops in Iraq only inspires more Muslims in that part of the world to join these radical groups.

VladSon 23 months ago

OMG this is such B.S. Jobs created. He includes GOVERNMENT jobs and the private sector jobs are mostly part-time. Unemployment isn't down. Those numbers don't include the number of people that have actually stopped looking for work and they include the people that used to have great paying full-time jobs but now have to take on part-time jobs to keep the lights on. The deficit is a joke. He slammed bush for increasing the debt and then almost doubled what Bush did in less than half the time. I call BS on the income taxes too. Most Americans saw an income tax INCREASE because Obummer let the Busch tax breaks EXPIRE. Mine went up. Those seven million Americans that now have health insurance aren't necessarily people who never had insurance. They were forced onto the crap care act and many of them saw their premiums increase and their benefits go down. Also, there is no proof as to how many of them are either illegal immigrants or even if they've paid for it yet either. We may have less soldiers in a war zone, but our military is at it's weakest point since before WWII, also, because idiot boy pulled out of Iraq, he helped give birth to ISIS, who is much WORSE than al Qaeda. Thanks idiot!!!

Bryon 23 months ago

This is garbage.

Hawk43 23 months ago

Right on, Justin. Vote 3rd party. It will be a sacrifice, but one worth it in the end. This country is polarized by a two-party system. Only a viable and reasonable third party will break the stranglehold.

My post-election observation is this: If you (the generic "you," not you, Justin) voted for an incumbent Representative or Senator, you are part of the problem, not part of the solution.

And to Jeff... Thanks for beginning this discussion. I appreciate discourse based on facts. I realize my response here appears to be solely opinion. As to my belief that a third party is our national salvation, I admit it--opinion. But as to whether voting for an incumbent Congressperson was a mistake... The ONE thing this Congress has proved, beyond the shadow of a doubt, is that NONE of them can work with the others to accomplish ANYTHING for the American people.

It's time to throw the bums out.

Justin 23 months ago

It amuses me how much Republicans deny facts ... and it amuses me how much Democrats believe that the government is responsible for all the improvements that those facts represent.

Conservatives: The free market, the U.S. military, and blaming Obama won't fix all the problems in the world. Stop being the party of stupid.

Liberals: The government can't fix everything you deem "unfair". Stop being the party of unintended consequences.

Liberals and conservatives: The world is complicated, and you're not as smart as you think you are.

Vote 3rd party. Yeah, they won't win in the short term, but they'll make the other 2 parties listen.

LJST 23 months ago

Sorry, but there is too many fact "distorted". Such as Deficit and Spending, simply because it would require everyone to have a short term memory lapse... as in, there was a thing called the Sequester, mandatory budget cuts.. There has also been a time when the Government actually shutdown. Something about a Budget Spending issue.

Sorry, but any use of that, as a point, only goes to show why the Founding Fathers were correct, and opposition actually does create checks and balances. After all, President Clinton also faced strong Republican opposition, even had a Government shutdown... as a result, the budget was cut enough to create that "surplus" everyone seems to bring up.

Kind of like, they also forget it was Clinton's FHA expansion and pressuring Banks to find way to fund lower-middle class people with their own house, that eventually created the Housing Boom and then collapse, or the fact that Clinton's Health Care Initiative, less than a year after leaving office, proved to nearly bankrupt all 50 States.

As for The Affordable Care Act, it hasn't even been fully implemented yet, so I really wouldn't put that out there, considering the true benefit and/or damage it is likely to create, will not be actually felt until all the chips have fallen.

As for Medicare, you might be an intelligent person, but obviously your math skills are lacking, what it did, was place the burden on paying on Medicare in the hands of ALL taxpayers, even though we were already paying into the system. Check your paystubs.. medicare is there, but now it is being funded through the pyramid scheme of the Affordable Care Act.

And make no mistake... it is a Pyramid scheme, it requires healthy people to pay enough insurance coverage, to pay for the needs of the unhealthy. If there is not enough healthy people paying in, the whole things collapses.

Of course, Insurance Companies are already claiming record profits, wonder why? How many citizens are there is the US? Can you say guaranteed enrollment?

Ashok 23 months ago

tsadjatko is dropping the truth bombs, the rest of you can't handle it.

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jeff61b 23 months ago Author


As much as you try valiantly to blame Harry Reid for the failure of Congress to pass anything, the fact remains that it was the hundreds upon hundreds of filibusters used by the Republican minority in the Senate that has prevented any kind of progress. Never before in the history of the United States has this rule been abused to this extent in order to kill legislation that would easily pass with a simple majority vote.

The Constitution says it takes a mere majority to pass a bill in the Senate, but thanks to Republicans it takes a super-majority of 60 percent to pass even the most routine legislation.

I have no fondness for Harry Reid. He has no backbone and is a terrible leader. But he has very little to do with the deliberate attempts by the minority party prevent any and all legislation from getting passed.

maverick45 23 months ago

I find it interesting that you are policing this blog so aggressively and calling out posters you believe are issuing platitudes and generalities yet you are perfectly content with clinging to the vague Dem campaign slogan that "Republicans in the house went out of their way to prevent anything from getting done". Have you heard of Harry Reid, the most vicious gatekeeper in U.S. history who used the Senate to protect his party? Plenty of posters have exposed you on this thread so the main question has to be: Does someone tie your shoe laces for you man? Good hell you are delusional.

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jeff61b 23 months ago Author


Except that Republicans in the house went out of their way to prevent anything from getting done. They purposely hindered any recovery from the recession that they caused.

Brad 23 months ago

You could also say that those good things happened while Republicans controlled the House of Representatives. And that statement would be equally misleading.

Brad 23 months ago

This is a classic abuse of statistics, using correlation to imply causation.

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Thanks for commenting. Its always good to hear from a Fox News viewer.

Nines 23 months ago

I think he is an awful president I think he and his wife are money hungry and only care for themselves and what they can get out of this. I will be glad when he is gone, but then I think we should fire all politicians, just think of the money we would have for ourselves not having everyone deciding everything for us and taking from us

VICTOR BENNETT 23 months ago

the GOP has steadfastly tried to torpedo the Obama presidency. they have done nothing since his presidency and sabotaged every positive policy the president has introdu

ced. the republicans agenda has been from the very beginning was to make the Obama presidency a failed one.

sally 23 months ago

The gimmick of the Right is to repeat, repeat, repeat lies or comments (and they keep it short for simple people), like: " The people don't like Obamacare", not true, more people like it than not and so on and on. But my favorite is "The Obama lied when he said, if you like your Dr or healthcare provider you can keep them." Obama did not lie. You can/could keep them, but your healthcare provider must be one that abides by the requirements of the Affordable Care Act! This is a fact that no one would have ever thought people with more than one brain cell would not realize. Dealing with the impaired is very difficult. He probably had more faith in the American people's ability to reason than he should have. Very sad.

Aaron 23 months ago

For those that discredit or argue against the unemployment numbers, remember the other side of things. Employment also depends on location. In Fargo ND we have 3 job openings for every worker, this caused minimum wage to be ineffective, and without raising it still start people at higher wages, and employers that work harder to keep employees. Fargo is not in oil country by the way. My wife manages a fast food restaurant in town and starts new hires at $9 per hour. Now go back a few years to 2010, during the recession I lost my job. I went on unemployment while I feverishly tried to find work, I was on it over a month despite the fact, I have a business degree and ten years of experience in sales and account management. Obama may not be the only factor, but there is no denying my city is in a better state for unemployment than it was in the recession. I now work in sales for a local tech firm by the way. Since the recession, my wife and I have gotten married, purchased a house, we both upgraded our cars, and make more now than we have at any other point in our professional lives. I think Obama has done alright, at least in my book when it comes to economic recovery.

lasinger 23 months ago

If you look at the facts, this HUB article is a blatant piece of propaganda. No surprise

Hragus 23 months ago

Jeff61b, Too bad the Dems did not run on your factual talking points!

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jeff61b 23 months ago Author

Kent, did you not notice those little blue lines after each fact beginning with the letters http://?

Those are what we call links. If you click on them with your mouse, it will take you to source articles that support each fact being states above. If that is not good enough, you can Google each fact and find multiple sources to support each statement.

Kent 23 months ago

Very credible siting that these can all be verified through multiple sources but not even referencing one source.

Nolia Webster 23 months ago

I am disappointed that Democrats running for office did not stand by Obama.

SuzieQTruth 23 months ago

Excellent Hub particularly appreciated your continually reasoned and well substantiated rebuttals to the asinine aggression of the opposition. Wish you larger public forums and debates to represent progressives. Thank you.

Wuster7 23 months ago

I also just spent about an hour reading through a good amount of this discussion and then I couldn't take any more of the drivel and skipped to the bottom, so I apologize if I repeat what has already been said. I applaud anyone here who has formed and articulated an intelligent perspective on either side of the debate without devolving to petty jabs or name calling. There will always be dumb, ignorant republicans and dumb, ignorant democrats who will make all of us look bad. Truthfully, I think most Americans fall into one of those two categories and therefore probably deserve a few years of communism, but I digress.

All facts aside, can't we all agree that we are no longer in a recession anymore? I am apparently a liberal, but I favor Obama for selfish reasons. It is a widely held opinion that a few years ago it was close to impossible to find work as a recent college grad and now I have been able to get a job I love with health insurance and while not making tons of money, I make enough to have a normal happy life and pay my student loans on time.

I was a child of a middle class family that was snapped out of my childhood bubble and into the real world by a recession that made me realize for the first time in my life that basic needs might not always be a guarantee. That is scary in a different way for a child that has always had access to basic comforts suddenly to realize that it might not always be that way. Things were bad, really bad, so many stores were closing, businesses were shutting down left and righg, it seemed like everyone was losing their job, production was halted on so many things nationwide. My point is not that my story is tragic, because it's not, but my point is that for my family, and from what I have read and seen, most families, are no longer in this bad of a situation, because we are no longer in a recession. Some might say that somehow Obama had nothing to do with this, but if we can blame him for everything that goes wrong, why does it not hold true that he get credit for anything that has gone right on his watch? Things may not be perfect, but I think the majority of Americans would agree that they're better than they were. Although I agree with all of the facts in this article I chose to argue only this point, because fundamentally, to me at least, that is the most important thing.

Fred Rivera 23 months ago

Bullesye on that.

In the pre-internet, pre-cable TV saturation period, after the politicians argued and cursed each other out, they often came to some sort of agreement, to benefit the country. People like Pat Moynihan worked with Bob Dole. The late George McGovern was a great friend of former Senator Bob Dole, and when they had common ground, they got at least some things done.

Another good man was Howard Baker. Virtually all the Democrats admired him, as he put country before party, as was the case with Mike Mansfield.

Not the case anymore, to the great detriment of this wonderful country, which, while far from perfect, is the one so many foreigners would like to live in.

JennBlue 23 months ago

The truth is neither the Republicans nor the Democrats have done anything as of recently to better this country. Bush did not do anything to better this country and Obama hasn't either. This country is more at odds with each other than ever before. Republicans will always point the figure and blame Democrats for everything that goes wrong and vice versa for the Democrats. Unfortunately as sad as it is, we have not had any decent candidates to vote for for some time and it only appears to be more of the same in our future.

Ryan 23 months ago

In regards to #2 is there any difrence between Fulltime jobs and Parttime jobs or do they count them together to get the numbers up?. I ask cause the majority of jobs do lean more Part time. My job use to have mor Fulltime employees when I started and has maybe have as many part time workers now.

Amy Lafferty 23 months ago

Well, again Nancy, thanks for sharing FACTS rather than B.S. reports which saturate the television waves!

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Nat 23 months ago

Thank you, Jeff, for providing this article. I've read some of the earliest comments and I applaud your ability to stand your ground and continue to provide facts to the naysayers.

My biggest issue with many (not all) Republicans and Obama haters is not that they take umbrage with some of the things Obama has done through his presidency. It's with the fact that they do not respect the office of the President. You can hate the individual all you want but as soon as you start to publicly and mercilessly attack the presidency, you weaken us in the eyes of the world. We may see it has having our voices heard, they may see it as a nation divided, and therefore weaker. The lack of respect is so troubling to me. I may be more liberal (though I do identify on some issues as being republican) but I will always respect the Commander in Chief. I may not always like the person in charge but I will always respect them.

Under Obama, with the passing of his Affordable Care Act, my cousin was finally able to get health insurance for the first time in 10 years. 10 years. I count that as a major win because I no longer have to worry if she gets seriously ill or injured.

I read a wonderful, thought provoking article that detailed a Canadians views on America's disrespect of the President. It's embarrassing and eye opening. I can't remember the link but all you have to do is Google it and you'll find it. I recommend reading it.

I can only hope- maybe fruitlessly- that by the end of his presidency, people will realize that Obama has done so much good for us. Yes, there is always room for improvement- as is the case with every single president- but I think, under the circumstances, Obama has done a great job.

Patty 23 months ago

Dear Jeff,

Thank You for defending a great president and posting some of the true facts of this presidency.

I believe the decline of the middle class started with Reagan. He broke unions bargaining powers by ordering people back to work from strikes (the only resource available as power to the workers) , he removed the few tax deductions the middle class had but left the ones for big business. I have lived through these and saw the level of income tax I paid rise about $3000 per year under Reagan even though my income stayed the same.

People have forgotten that some our ancestors gave their lives and freedom to fight big business and unfair tyrannical employment practices so we could enjoy a better life.


Thank You

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jeff61b 23 months ago Author

Jj and dt1,

I have responded to most of your points previously when others have made them. You wrongly said the national debt went from 5 trillion to 18 trillion under Obama. This is untrue.

It went from 5 trillion to 10 trillion under GW Bush. This is significant when you consider he inherited a budget surplus from Clinton.

The debt has grown under Obama because he inherited A $1.4 trillion deficit which he has reduced by two-thirds.

There is no denying that almost ten million new jobs have been created since the end of the recession. That is based on numbers of hires and layoffs compiled by the Dept of Labor.

Out of hundreds of comments to this article, nobody has refuted the facts within the article.

DT1 23 months ago

Federal deficit numbers are pretty misleading.. If you look up every number before projected 2015 it is higher than you claim and has not gone down.. A better indication of our spending is under the total debt tab on that page.. It has gone from about 5 trillion to over 18 trillion in the past 6 years.. I don't think Obama is terrible or everything is his fault.. I also don't think he is responsible for the good economic things that are happening in the private sector such as the new fracking technology that has allowed us to use more of our energy at home and has a huge economic benefit.. I hope you honestly don't believe that all started when Obama took office. It might be also worthwhile for you to research quantitative easing under Obama and how it floods the stock market with money without fixing the real issues..

I'm not a huge fan of Obama or republicans, but I am realistic. It is easy to 'research' to find 'facts' in both directions.. Statistics are easy to manipulate. Especially unemployment rates that don't take people not actively pursuing a job into consideration.. Many liberal policies allow more people to take advantage of the system.

jj 23 months ago

Let's get some real facts straight here. The financial collapse occurred on Bush's watch but was due to legislation that was passed in the late 90's in the Clinton Era that eased lending standards at the bank's. There has been trillions of dollars that the fed has pumped in to the system to try and make this economy recover by keeping interest rates artificially low. Take a look at the increase in money supply due to the fed trying to mask over the fact that the economy is in the dumps. The lowest labor participation rate since the 70's is why you see a declining unemployment number. Every so called 'fact' that this article brings up can be blown out of the water with common sense...there's a reason these so called 'fact' articles come out, to cover up the fact that the Obama administration is an utter failure. All the gov't tries to do is cover up the truth so it appears that things are going well.

pele0223 23 months ago

Death Of The Working Class In 12 Charts

More reliable stats can be found here to show the country is doing worse off than the people realize.

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jeff61b 23 months ago Author

Kyle Levi Fox –

I would disagree with your claim that I never acknowledge that there are valid points made by others who disagree with me. If you noticed, there are hundreds of comments on this article and I do not feel compelled to give a point by point response to every comment.

If you read the original article carefully, I said these are facts about the state of America during the Obama presidency. I did not specifically give Obama credit. I am pointing out that the country is in much better shape than most people realize.

I do have my own criticisms of Obama. I think he is far too conservative in his policies. America elected a progressive and he has been far more conservative than he presented himself to be. I’d like to see an optional public health insurance program as part of the Affordable Care Act. I’m also not thrilled with his drone policy.

But getting to your point, there are some “facts” that commenters presented which were plainly untrue and I responded to those comments. When people comment with actual facts that are critical of Obama, I often let their statement stand on its own. But those statements do not take anything away from the facts I stated in my article.

Premitrom 23 months ago

I appreciate the facts you shared. I reposted it to share with as many people as I could and several of my friends reposted this article as well. Great work! Thank you

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Kyle Levi Fox 23 months ago

jeff61b, reading your retorts here, it's really clear that you feel that your own "facts" are more accurate than others', never acknowledging that there are valid concerns with selective presentation of them. For example, the real vs. official unemployment rate—you can't talk down to people who know that there is a difference and point to the wording of your facts. I think I also read above the a job is 24/7 for a president—what about campaigning? Putting all the other politicians aside, do you really count 2-3 days a week spent campaigning for party affiliates as his job as the POTUS?

Here's a rhetorical question for you: What IS Obama responsible for that is negative currently in this country. If your initial reaction is "nothing! Everything he has done has been twisted by those . . . " then you need to question your reliability as a source. Many of the numbers you present are of dubious interpretation and when someone points out that x is due to private sector endeavors, you still give credit in a round about way to Obama, while doing the opposite to people presenting negative numbers concerning the POTUS. I mean this is a kind way, but you are definitely being selective about what are facts that are valid and what aren't and whether Obama can have any effect of the US except an overwhelming positive one.

chrisdesalvo 23 months ago

Here are some FACTS for all of you to put your heads around, if you are able. This war between the parties and their supporters is nothing but pure unadulterated BS. The right and their sanctimonious BS about socialism is just that BS. The country is going to hell is just as much BS as it is socialist. The left and their 'the sky is falling' and they are going to take away our benefits, is no better. The reality is that both sides have achieved most of their ideological goals through the years and the country is still the most powerful entity in the world. We all have been played for utter fools bent on insulting each other to the fair-the-well and selectively listing pure nonsense to support our absurd talking points. Moving forward, rather than working together to fine tune the beautiful thing that is America, we allow outrageous talking heads, on both sides and their lemming followers and most of all the super rich Robber Barron's of today, as well as 'wet beak' special interest groups, to pull the puppet strings ever inflaming their constituency for their own selfish and self serving purposes. This ideological war is not only unnecessary but becoming ever more boring to the majority of middle of the road/do what's right for the country Americans. The sooner you all stop name calling, starting with the party that made it into the national dialogue (you know who you are) the better off we all will be. It is time to push aside the screamers and haters and dooms day'ers and bring back the moderate and cooperative leaders that got us to where we are before this food fight started. Grow up people and remember, it is us that will be handing off this country to our children, grandchildren and so forth. It is time we stop the nonsense and use compromise and cooperation to make us 'a more perfect union'.

Hutsman 23 months ago

I hope Hilary Clinton & and her folks are listening and learning from this discussion. Mitch in KY won easily with a message essentially: " this slow recovery from the train wreck we Red Republican folks left President Obama after Bush is just unacceptable-- and we are not gunna take it any more!!!" Totally irrational and absurd. But it worked with the public mind filled with proportionately irrational Ebola/Isis fear. Allison should have proudly backed Barack Obama's policy instead of eating the hog food from Mitch, and the RED 1984 spin machine. So throwing rational logic is like using science and law professor logic-- pearls to swine. Not sure what to do because I love science, professor logic and. Obama's presidency -- the best I will see in my lifetime I am sure.

killeenTX 23 months ago

I just want to mention..that gas has been decreasing nicely in Texas..from 3.25 about 2 months ago down to 2.55..whatever it is, its been nice...

Jean Faiella 23 months ago

Just think what could have been accomplished if the President had the support and respect he deserved from Congress and the Senate!

biospaz 23 months ago

I read the article, then the first 50 or so responses, and then the last 25 or so responses (I just didn't have the time to read them all though I wish I did because they are very interesting). At this time, I'd like to first thank the author for writing and verifying some interesting facts about the president. I was beginning to let the public spin to sway my thinking and entertain the idea that he has been an abject failure and I'm glad I stumbled upon this discussion to renew my faith. Sure, there have been a lot of set backs and things which I have politically disagreed with during this presidency, but at the end of the day we are better off across the board then we were when he first entered the office. I was extremely disheartened when the republicans were rewarded for their obstructionist policies and hugely financed campaigns. It continually amazes me how people use approval ratings as indicators of someone's success. These are extremely objective measurements which often have little to do with actual achievements. The Koch and Rove financed political agenda in the various campaigns and on FOX news is taken to heart instead of actual facts about what has been achieved or is being done. There are numerous quotes from high ranking republicans stating their plans to diminish the Obama image through obstructionist policies throughout his terms, and then there is the voting and filibuster record to back this up, but this isn't even questioned. They even closed the government for a law that was already on the books because they regretted not being able to successfully obstruct its induction. Every decision he has made has been refuted, even if it was something they had clamored for before he adjusted his views towards the contrary viewpoint. The last 6 years have been a hard fought campaign against the president and the country and all of us as its citizenry have paid the price. True, we should be further along the recovery train than we currently are, but I strongly believe we would be if it weren't for the obstructionist tactics that the republicans have undertaken. I was having difficulty seeing any accomplishments, and am glad this article could renew my faith. I just don't understand how easily people are able to ignore the behaviors of the republicans in congress over the last 6 years. To the point that we rewarded them by giving them complete control over the legislative branch. Heck, a few of the people who made it in just flabbergast me. One has multiple federal charges being filed against him for heavens sake. Suffice it to say I was very disappointed with our country a few days ago.

cindy 23 months ago

I do injoy a good debate. I don't put much into what is written in papers or aired on tv. I do watch the senate live on tv and the house live. These people need fired. If I failed to do my job. The way they fail to do there's I would not have one. Please sit down one morning and watch them in action. That's the facts

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jeff61b 23 months ago Author

Kenny -

You're right, at first glance it looks like the projected 2014 deficit, while the smallest in years, is slightly higher than 2008. But I think the way the deficit was calculated during the Bush years, they did not include the cost of the wars (nearly $100 billion per year - off budget) and they did not include the billions being "borrowed" from Social Security. The deficits under President Obama do include those amounts.

So I think the the 2014 deficit is about the same or lower than the 2008 deficit.

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jeff61b 23 months ago Author

Fred -

I hate to break this to you, but I am not a spokesperson for the Obama administration. You can use this thing called Google to look up their answers to your questions. None of what you wrote has anything to do with my article.

Congratulations. You figured out my diabolical scheme, that this article is somewhat one-sided and not a complete analysis of the Obama presidency. How long did it take you to figure that out? As I have explained repeatedly, the purpose of this article was to remind people of some important facts that they may have forgotten, not to give a complete history of the past six years.

There are massive amounts of criticism of President Obama, some of it accurate and much of it based on falsehoods. That was why I wrote this article. Obama, like any other president, is imperfect and deserves some criticism from time to time. But he has been attacked at a level that no other president has experienced. Republicans condemn Obama for doing the exact same things they praised GW Bush for doing.

Obama has worked hard to compromise with Republicans and they state openly that they will NEVER compromise with this president. In order to get Republican support, Obama has embraced Republican ideas like the health insurance mandate, Cap and Trade, and the Dream Act. The moment Obama embraces these Republican ideas, Republicans immediately call them "socialist" proposals.

All Republicans have done over the past six years is to try to make this president fail, even if it means making the country fail. They have successfully slowed down the economic recovery, prevented the creation of millions of jobs, lowered the country's credit rating just to name a few.

Republicans have tied themselves in knots to find ways to criticize Obama. They said we should get involved in the uprising to overthrow Gaddafi in Libya. When Obama order US air support to help the rebels, Republicans criticized him for getting involved. When we succeeded in helping to overthrow Gaddafi, Republicans criticized Obama for doing too little to help.

They said they supported sending troops to Syria to fight President Assad. But when Obama threatened to order air strikes against Syria, Republicans opposed him. When Obama decided not to bomb Syria, they criticized him for not doing the very thing they told him not to do.

It's this "damned if you do, damned if you don't" attitude that was one reason I wrote this article. There is a great deal of unfair criticism of President Obama and I simply wanted to remind people of some factual information that doesn't get mentioned enough.

Kenny 23 months ago

On point 5...

"The 2014 deficit is projected to be around $500 billion, the smallest deficit since 2007 and roughly 1/3 of what it was in 2009."

If you go to the source that you have provided, this is just not true. 2008 was $458B, which is less than $500B and the estimated $483B.

Fred Rivera 23 months ago

I meant to say C-SPAN, not S-SPAN.

Fred Rivera 23 months ago

Jeff61b- True lies, in some cases, as I explained, and you did not offer any response to what I said, beyond that not everything is rosy. You took data five years into a sputtering economic expansion and compared it, very conveniently, to the bottom of the recession. We are clearly better off than November 2008, and I stated it. The word "concede" is not appropriate, since I never took a view that we were worse off, and then offered any concession.

Tell me specifically, where I am wrong in my two comments about your article.

Why are so many businesses across the board reluctant to use their cash hoard to create jobs? Why didn't the Simpson Bowles majority recommendations get implemented? Where is the $2500 savings on healthcare premiums? When did ISIS/ISIL graduate from the junior varsity? Why didn't the healthcare hearings bet broadcast on S-SPAN? Why does Obamacare create an incentive for small companies to actually drop their health insurance benefits because the penalty, even though not tax deductible, is lower than the cost of the premiums?

There are many criticisms of Obama I consider unfair, such as Birther garbage, and now the secret contact with Iran. But, your one sided article cannot go without a response. So, please answer the questions in the preceding paragraph. If you do not specifically answer them, I will know you did a one sided job of analyzing the Obama performance since January 20, 2009.

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jeff61b 23 months ago Author

Fred Rivera -

When I wrote this article, I was careful to find multiple sources that confirmed that the facts were, indeed, true. As I have explained to multiple commenters, this article is not a complete history of the past six years. It is not intended to suggest that everything is rosy. But there is so much focus on negative issues, I felt is was necessary to remind people of some important facts they had forgotten.

The traditional question asked at election time is, are you better off now than you were 4 (or six) years ago. You seem to concede that the answer is yes we are clearly better off.

Imagine how much better off we would be if Republicans had been willing to work out some compromises with President Obama instead of working to make his presidency a failure.

I expect the opposition party to vote against things they disagree with. I do not believe they should engage in the level of obstruction where they kill every single bill - even the most routine legislation - with the filibuster.

Case in point, now that the Democrats will be in the minority in the Senate, I expect them to use the filibuster from time to time, but nowhere near the level that Republicans used it.

Fred Rivera 23 months ago

There are such things as true lies, and the article has some of them. Comparing where we are now, roughly 5 and a half years after the recession technically ended, to where we were at the bottom of the recession, is certainly going to make things look better, because they are. But, we are light years from a solid prosperity.

One of the criticisms of business is that there is over a trillion dollars sitting on corporate balance sheets, and that could be creating jobs. True, BUT, when companies across the board are unwilling to invest in the USA, there is a lack of confidence in the economic policies of the country. If other countries are more attractive at this point, policies by the government have to change that view.

Just saying it is greed is not a valid explanation. There has always been greed, and greed in the sense of being being motivated to invest because you can make money is not a bad thing.

I am not a Republican nor an Obama fan, but these convenient comparisons to things today versus things at the worst part of the recession are a cop out. Where should we be five years into a recovery? We are nowhere near there, especially when you realize we have an energy boom. This is the perfect time to put a small tax on a barrel of oil and, with the proceeds of that tax, either subsidize alternative energy sources or expand research into those alternative sources.

Damien 23 months ago

So a lot of times, the best parts of these articles are the comments, where posters with differing viewpoints attempt to refute facts and whatnot. I've learned that an article can say whatever it wants, but some can be so easily torn down by a single post.

And yet, just from the tone of some of the posters, I'm more inclined to believe the author strictly on his behavior. Some of the posters who have made various comments stating that this article is full of lies just seem petty and malicious, regardless of whatever facts they may or may not be bringing to the conversation.

Although I do feel like the majority of the article holds up well, considering.

christie 23 months ago

Right on, Jeff. And write on......You can fool some of the people some of the time, and you can fool some people all of the time, but you can't fool all the people all of the time. Obama is the best President I've seen since JFK. History will tell of a time when treasonous bebavior was tolerated because of people's bigotry.

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Rock Crazy 23 months ago

Thanks ~ I have and still do have a deep respect for Mr. Obama ~ He came into office and inherited quite a mess ~ his years in office weren't enough to fix it. I believe he did what he said and hopefully our next president will continue. And it isn't all him , there are so many others in office voting this way and that. Good luck to all our leaders. RESPECT and Common Sense

Fred Rivera 23 months ago

Lots of misleading data, although I would say we are clearly better off than in the depths of recession. None of my points below is in praise of the Republicans, but these points against Obama, are in my view, valid.

The jobs created in this period of expansion have not been, for the most part, high paying jobs. That is why median household income is down, versus the pre great recession Bush years.

We got out of Iraq, Obama stated we were leaving behind a stable Iraq, I do not think so.

The budget deficit is down a lot, but that is comparing it to its worst point at the bottom of the great recession. Obama appointed the Simpson Bowles commission to recommend a road to debt reduction, over the long haul, and Obama did not implement the recommendations of the majority of the commission. The recommendations required a 2/3 approval, so they were not formal commission proposals, but Obama should have followed them.

The decrease in oil imports is great, but it is mostly the result of wells that were permitted before Obama was President. Obama deserves credit for not trying to stop the drilling.

Where were the negotiations on C-SPAN over the healthcare reform? Did the Republicans stop them?

Where is the $2500 savings on healthcare premiums? When will we see that?

We had negative economic growth in one quarter of 2014, the first I believe, so the consecutive month string of economic growth ended.

This has been an uneven economic recovery, no real continuous traction, and if you are going to credit Obama for everything good, and blame the Republicans for the warts, it is a very partisan analysis.

Bush was a bad President, Obama is nothing to celebrate.

bob 23 months ago

all of these things are supposed to go up dumbasses. The economy and stock markets are supposed to grow so just because wev had some days of growth and new records doesnt mean anything.

Cynnmn 23 months ago

Convincing arguments are not made with attitude nor insults. It makes me shut off any perception of validity to the point. Most of us love our country and want the best so why debate so ineffectively unless you are merely an Internet troll of course and your goal is to demean anyone you can.

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jeff61b 23 months ago Author


Each fact is followed up by links to sources. You can look up the raw numbers from the dept of labor, the congressional budget office and other places to verify these facts.

But they are all true, every one.

Jds 23 months ago

There's a lot of jibberish back and forth on both sides - the thing with statistics is you can find stats to back anything want. So my only question is why if things are better does it not feel like it? A better America isn't something you can prove through stats - no number puts life to the greatness of a healthy American economy or culture. It's the hope of a future if better things to come of opportunity to do and become something great! I don't see a whole lot of that right now - whether you love or hate Obama America doesn't feel great right now. I don't blame Obama or the democrats the republicans aren't our saviors.

Kay Huston, Northern Michigan 23 months ago

Thank you all for you discussions. I don't watch news much any more and leave all this political reconnaissance to you younguns. Glad to see someone's paying attention. I usually vote a straight Democrat ticket, and LOVE President Obama for the man I believe him to be. As an ex-military member, coming from a family with a long history of military service, I have respect for all men (and someday women, I hope) who the people elect as Commander-in-Chief. I personally know 2 people who's lives were saved from debilitating disease after they were finally able to get some health being my own sister. I am disappointed that we Democrats were unable to come together to to elect a new governor. Again, thanks for your discussions.

pele0223 23 months ago


When government intrudes, the result is more bad behavior and corporate power than there would have otherwise been had there not been any government intervention at all.

The businesses that do partake in bad behavior due to government intervention are gaining profits at the expense of those who are less fortunate, much more so than it would otherwise be had the government not tried to do anything at all. Without so much government participation, the businesses that engage in bad behavior would be noticed and wiped out, either through consumer preference or faulty financials. Currently, this is not the case because the government wants votes and handouts to special interest groups and big business in return for campaign contributions. I wouldn't blame the ordeal mostly on Republicans, as Democrats are just as proportionate in this area.

Needless to say, it is how the US political system operates. There are always trade-offs to these laws and politicians do not look at the unintended consequences, only the ones they pass to garner support for their electorate. This causes people to support one side or the other, but most do not realize that one party is just as detrimental to our economy as the other. Both parties believe in big government. Both parties believe in passing laws to favor big corporations, as this is how they continue to draw monetary support for re-elections. No politician, including Democrats, want to sacrifice re-election to stand up to these corporations.

I do not associate myself with a party, but rather look at the bigger picture, as I see very small differences in the actions of both parties. Yet they talk big game about their differences. I don't care what someone says, I'd rather trust their actions instead.

Karl 23 months ago

This is a fruitful hub and discussion session and I am really getting a hands on view to solidify a premise about Republicans; they cannot handle the truth when it is contrary to their belief system. It reminds me of the Carl Rove moment on Fox during the 2012 election when they called Ohio to go to president Obama. What a moment that was and it is being replayed over and over again by conservatives responding here, wow!

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jeff61b 23 months ago Author

Pele0223 –

The power should lie with government, but big corporations are increasingly becoming more powerful than the government.

I think one of the philosophical differences between progressives and conservatives is that conservatives think the government exercises too much influence over big corporations. Progressives think corporations exercise too much influence over the government.

Another way I could put it if you will forgive the hyperbole:

Conservatives tend to believe that corporations will always do the right thing if the government would just stay out of the way.

Progressives tend to believe that corporations would disembowel you and sell your organs to the highest bidder if the government wasn't there to stop them.

I see corporations getting more powerful while the rest of us are becoming weaker. I believe some corporations, or the very rich people who run them, now “own” specific members of Congress. This is why Congress works to benefit the very wealthy at the expense of the rest of us.

In the struggle between corporate power and government power, I root for the government. That does not mean I support “big government”, the “nanny state” or any of those other euphemisms conservatives use. It just means I want to rein in corporate power.

Despite its flaws, government is designed to exist solely for the purpose of doing what is in our best interest. The preamble to the Constitution says our government exists to “establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity”.

Corporations, however, have no such lofty goals. Their objective is to maximize profits. Period. They have no loyalty to the American people. They will ship jobs to countries with cheaper labor and hide their profits in the Cayman Islands to avoid paying taxes.

If it wasn't for the government reining them in, forcing them to comply with health and safety standards, pollution standards, and consumer protection laws, corporations would make slightly higher profits but employees and customers of those companies would suffer physical or financial harm.

I certainly want corporations to be profitable and all their stakeholders to make money. I just want everyone to benefit, not just those at the very top.

I suspect that what you and I might disagree on is the degree to which government should be involved in regulating business.

pele0223 23 months ago


I absolutely agree. The only disagreement I have is that the government is more at fault than the private sector. After all, this is wherein the power lies. They should have the courage to stop this behavior and let them fail, yet they are promoting bailouts, more regulation, and prolonging these incentives, which are extremely problematic. All because they want to win another election.

It's only natural that the free market wants to make money, especially if one is providing incentives to help them. I'd really like you to watch that link with the Q & A's. It's contains much history and analyzes the recent financial crisis. It is about everything I had mentioned. Economic measurements, misallocation of capital, and regulation is emphasized in the interview. I seriously think it will give you an alternative view on how government and the private sector intertwine in order to do business with one another, as well as the political motives that are a force behind these bad decisions. It is not in politicians' interest to let the banks fail. The depositor's would lose savings. On the other hand, the situation would not be so severe if politicians would hadn't been involved with the

financial sector in the first place. The risks they would be able to take would be nowhere near to what it is with all of these government guarantees.

still surfin,

You have shown that you had run out of productive things to say and could not provide a coherent response. You are continuing to do so by thinking you are garnering support from the author. I could care less.

moderate in Midwest 23 months ago

Interesting citations. Not very good at mining the facts though.

stillsurfin 23 months ago


uhhh, most of the receent posts were spam.


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jeff61b 23 months ago Author

Pele0223 –

Financial institutions were making risky investments because they were gambling with our money, not theirs, and because they know the government will bail them out because they are too big to fail.

While the rest of us are told we must live with pure capitalism and that the market will find solutions to our problems, big corporations enjoy a form of socialism. The government keeps cutting taxes and creating tax loopholes for corporations while giving them subsidies. Yet we don’t make them responsible for their mistakes. In other words, their profits are privatized but their losses are socialized.

Republicans tell us that corporations are people. What most Republicans (and some Democrats) in Congress seem to want is for large corporations to have more rights and more power than real people do. So all our laws are being skewed to give more power to the powerful and more wealth to the wealthy.

Before the 1980s, when the economy expanded everyone benefited. The rich, the middle class, and the poor. But since the 80s, whenever the economy expands, all the new wealth goes to the top and almost none of it goes to the working class.

As a result, the top 1% gets fabulously richer while wages for the workers stay the same or lower when adjusted for inflation.

When anyone tries to stop this dangerous trend, they are accused of “Class warfare”. For some reason, when you work to benefit the top 1% at the expense of everyone else, that is OK. But if you try to stop this redistribution of wealth, you are accused of engaging in Class Warfare.

So apparently, it is only class warfare when it benefits the bottom 99% of Americans.

BTW, for some reason, Hub Pages flagged all your recent posts as spam. I had to approve them to make them visible.

pele0223 23 months ago

"Politics is the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich, by promising to protect each from the other"

pele0223 23 months ago


You have it backwards. If governments weren't guaranteeing all the mortgage-backed securities and involved in finance, banks would not have had the leverage nor the incentive to have been so risky. Their businesses are based on making good loans, not bad ones. That is the only way they make a profit. They are too smart to be so risky. The only reason they took these risks are because of the leverage the government gave them through guaranteeing mortgages. This is another example of government policy sticking their hands in places where they don't belong, resulting in unintended consequences for those they intend to help.

The bankers knew those loans were ridden with toxicity and were not AAA, as S&P and Moody's suggested. The government knew as well, but no one wanted to stop the party. Equities were skyrocketing and politicians were loving every moment during that boom. The only reason these banks could make these loans that had no down-payments and teaser rates was due to the fact of government intervention. Our politicians stuck their hands in a sector of the economy where they did not belong. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were among the largest mistakes ever created by our politicians.

Bush was famously quoted as saying "Wall St. got drunk" during the final days of his presidency, but he didn't look at where everyone got the alcohol. No one looked at why Wall St. was drunk. That's what everyone should be concerned about. Was it just spontaneous? No. Someone had to give them the alcohol, and they got it from the government. Alan Greenspan was the bartender that liquored everyone up and the government made sure the bar never closed. Eventually, the free market came to its senses and woke up. That boom was the problem, the bust was the solution and hangover. Unfortunately, we are still hungover due to similar policies such as QE and have yet to come to our senses.

Capital and labor was in areas where they did not belong, due to government policy of trying to pump up real estate by guaranteeing all these mortgages and attempting to pump up real estate. The free market always tends to fix itself with time when this sort of misallocation exists.

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jeff61b 23 months ago Author

Naveen –

We do not have a growing regulatory state as you claim. Quite the opposite. Our economy failed in 2008 due to the constant deregulation of the finance industry. Republicans slowly repealed the regulations passed during the Great Depression to prevent another Stock Market crash like the one in 1929.

Back in the 80s Reagan deregulated the Savings and Loan industry. Guess what? The S & L industry collapsed and many people lost their life savings.

We did restore some regulations in order to prevent another collapse of our financial system.

The trend toward constant deregulation benefits only the very wealthy and harms everyone else. We DO need strong regulations to protect the American people, the consumer, the voter, the taxpayer from the abuses of overwhelming corporate power.

Republicans work to protect the very wealthy and the powerful because that is where all the wealth and power are concentrated. They've proven over the past 6 years that they do not give a rat’s ass about the poor, the middle class, or anyone but the very very rich.

JSobieski 23 months ago

Some very misleading statistics.

Decreased unemployment? Yes, but only because the number of people participating in the labor force is at all time lows since the late 70s, when working moms were the exception not the rule.

Consecutive quarters of growth? Sure. But anemic growth. Rarely has growth exceeded 2%. When you factor population growth and technology-related job displacements, 2% growth is just standing still.

pele0223 23 months ago


True...... that's a fact, jack.

Actually, most economic indicators were better when "W" was President ...... until the bottom fell out."

What else is true is that although most economic indicators are worse than "W's" during Obama's reign....there will be an even larger bottom falling out. Bush had a real estate bubble where a couple of sectors within the economy were effected such as construction and real estate. Obama has a bond bubble. This time EVERYONE is effected. We are not only misallocating money like Bush did, but we are printing money because American politicians do not have the guts to tax the people. They also don't have the guts to cut spending towards wasteful programs. Republicans were based on a philosophy of making sure the government stayed within the confines of our constitution. That faded quick. Democrats believe that we're greater together than we are on our own—that this country succeeds when everyone gets a fair shot, when everyone does their fair share, when everyone plays by the same rules. Well, the "Limousine Liberals" in Washington certain threw that out of the window.

When the government officials tell us the only way we can succeed is by transferring billions of dollars to investment bankers for them to speculate on, I don't trust this nonsense one bit. Government officials are trying to convince average, middle-class voters that they represent your interests, yet they are stealing your money and giving it to Wall St. bankers. Continue to support their policies and remain gullible.

NAVEEN 23 months ago

Obama and his presidency's general tone has been that of a meddlesome big brother. It's one of subordinating the rights of the so called 'rich' to the so called 'majority'. Affordable Care fundamentally evil. No bureaucrat should ever be able to tell any individual how he can conduct business (corporations are nothing but a group of individuals). A government's only purpose is to protect individual rights (life, liberty and property) and uphold contracts. It has no business in any kind of economics. The fact that economy is expanding doesn't mean rights are not being violated. Economy is supposed to expand by the very nature of productive man. The growth in US economy is in-spite of government..not because of it. The growing regulatory state, wether under Democrats or Republicans, is very similar to the European 'Democratic Socialism'. It is the worst form of evil (anti-life) and will eventually lead to fascism when left unchecked. The moment when the rights of any one person are violated through government force, irrespective of how many vote on it, we cease to be a republic with unalienable individual rights!

pele0223 23 months ago


What happens to the labor force when government imposes a minimum wage?


True...... that's a fact, jack.

Actually, most economic indicators were better when "W" was President ...... until the bottom fell out."

There will be an even larger bottom that falls out due to this administration and Congress with the implementation of their QE programs.

pele0223 23 months ago

Just because we are "growing" in your sense through the accumulation of debt, it doesn't mean we are "growing" and prospering as a country and society overall. Your facts may be true, but they do not account for the overall trend of the economy. These facts are very micro and "cherry-picking" facts such as these can always paint a rosier picture of the bubble economy rather than the actual economy. I don't see why people are so adamant in fighting for the left or right. They all spend money in perpetuity and are extremely wasteful. The "crazies" on the right have promoted disastrous foreign policy blowbacks and the "stupids" on the left have caused higher prices for healthcare and unintentionally forced more people out of the labor force.

pele0223 23 months ago


Haha. Nice comeback. I remember similar types of behavior in primary school. But then I grew up. You should read. It would do you good and educate you a bit. Perhaps that is why you cannot understand. You don't bother. You continue to tell yourself, I'm right, others are wrong.

You've already proved you know nothing of the world by saying some of the most stupid things I've ever heard about other countries , such as "Then, who do you hold up as the shining example of a robust Economy? CHINA !! .... CHINA !! A Communist Country where the Government OWNS it’s Business and Industry…. A Government who manipulates it’s Economy and it’s Currency". That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard anyone say, even including those who are left in the dark and those who just get their news from hear-say, which is exactly how you attain your information about the world.

Again, Spam and Corn Flakes were not used in the experiment. And again, save the dorky language and stop watching Fox News. You seem to have lots of knowledge about Fox. It's driving you mad.

Your false accusations and avoidance of reading through my replies proves, most of which you hear on TV. You've also proved you have no economic sense. Your prescence does not belong on this thread.of what you consider to be true in your dream world (because you have never been due to living inside that little bubble of yours, but are only re completely false.

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jeff61b 23 months ago Author

PhilKuhlenbeck -

Look at what "W" inherited from the president before him. Clinton left him a country at peace, prosperity, a balanced budget, 4% unemployment, and a booming stock market.

Obama inherited the worst economy since the Great Depression (skyrocketing unemployment, 2 wars, a trillion dollar deficit, a crashing stock market).

The difference is, Bush took a spectacular economy and gave us 2 recessions while Obama has spent his presidency digging us out of the miserable hole Bush left us in.

stillsurfin 23 months ago


True...... that's a fact, jack.

Actually, most economic indicators were better when "W" was President ...... until the bottom fell out.

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PhilKuhlenbeck 23 months ago

Unemployment was still lower when "W" was president:

stillsurfin 23 months ago


I do have to slightly disagree with you on one point....however, it may or may not be just be wordsmithing.

You said "This country is being fundamentally changed into something unrecognizable and very different from the Constitutional Republic it was founded as."

The FACT is that this Country has been being fundamentally changed into something different from the Constitutional Republic it was founded as .... for Many Many Decades ... and the change has marched forward with both many Republican and Democrat Administrations, Congresses, and Supreme Courts.

Those individuals putting ALL the blame on Obama for it now are simply "ignorant puppets".

The transition actually started as far back as 1873 with the Supreme Court subverting the Fourteenth Amendment in the Slaughter-House Cases.

Today, the majority of those that talk about America moving away from a Constitutional Republic don't even know what that the words Constutitional Repbulic even mean.

All they know is that they have been Indoctrinated by Fox News to "blame" President Obama for it (even though they have no idea what it means)..... as though it is a "brand new" development.

stillsurfin 23 months ago


I absolutely agree with your cherry picking comment.

It is obvious that jeff's list are ALL POSITIVE facts and there certainly are plenty of NEGATIVE facts about the Obama Presidency that he didn't mention.

But, it's clear jeff hasn't created a comprehensive list of all pros/cons about the entire Obama Presidency, that wasn't his intent ........ he is just pointing out that there are some positives that have occured during the last 6 years.

What is interesting is the FACT that Fox News Minions always come crawling out of the wooodwork when anybody points out ANY Positive Facts ...... because they just simply can't mentally accept the existance of ANY positive facts due to their Indoctrination.

Case in point:


Here is a Fox New Minion that just mentally can't EVER consider that there are ANY positives or his/her fantasy world would crack and come tumbling down.

Hence the complete dismissal of each and every one of the FACTS .... Kat66 can only see BS because he/she has been trained to only see BS whenever anything positive is presented.

I think that is the point and reason jeff wrote the hub .... to see the hatred and blindness of the Fox News Minion responders.

And, he was "hoping" that positive facts would cause them to "think" just a little bit.

Here is where jeff and I disagree.

I do not beleive that a Fully Indocrtinated Fox News Minion is capable of thinking anymore.... they just repeat what they have been trained to repeat. No "thinking" anymore.

You can easily detect a Fox News Minion - they are the ones that can ONLY see the negative things associted with President Obama... because that is what they have been "trained" to do.

ANYTHING positve is just way too inconvenient and MUST be ignored and dismissed at all cost.

thelongversion 23 months ago

Some serious cherry picking here. We can take any action by any president through history and pull out ONLY the positives. But that doesn't tell us anything about the overall impact of a president's policies and actions during his term(s).

This is nothing but manufactured happy happy joy joy in a time where people really want it. Sadly it's a mirage. The country is being fundamentally changed into something unrecognizable and very different from the Constitutional Republic it was founded as.

Me 23 months ago

Looks to me like Jeff showed his true colors. Saying bad things about bush doesn't make Obama any better. It's just hate speech about Bush

stillsurfin 23 months ago


I actually don't feel it is fair to "lock in" on a US President's Historical Performance Rank until at least a few years after they leave office.

And, the longer time goes by the more a President's overall performance can be evaluated since there is better perspective.

The surest indicator of a Brain-Dead Fully Indocrinated Fox New Minion is when they say Obama is the WORST President ever right NOW.

You can bet that is a person who spends a lot of time watching Fox News and listening to Conservative Talk Radio.... and has been fully trained to regurtate that nonsense whenever their puppet string is pulled.

But, the opposite is also true... the surest indicator of a brain-dead Fully Indoctrinated Far Left Winger is when they say Obama is the BEST President ever right NOW.

Neither type of Political Fundamentalist have a clear objective mind - both are nothing but well trained dogs to bark on command.

However, what can be said is that right now is that Obama is neither the BEST nor WORST - since there are many others who make easily make the list in the top 5 or bottom 5.

But, as far as today.....ranking by individuals who are NOT Political Fundamentalists - and are unbiased - and have the brainpower and intelligence to do an honest evaluation .....Obama is ranked 15th best and Bush is in the bottom 5.

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jeff61b 23 months ago Author

Silvia –

Here are some links to fact-checking web sites to verify the numbers of vacation days for each president.

If the President of the United States wants to play a round of golf on the weekend, why do you care? It's probably the most stressful job in the world and I think the guy needs something like a round of golf to relax once in a while.

It's not like Obama continued playing golf for 3 days while thousands of people drown after a hurricane hit New Orleans.

It's not as if Obama was told that there was an imminent attack about to happen in New York and Washington DC and he then took a month-long vacation at his ranch in Texas - 1500 miles from where he was told the attack would happen.

Obama’s approval rating has dropped exactly 1 percentage point this year. It is in the low 40s. Bush’s approval rating was in the low 30s during his 2nd term.

By the way, neither Carter nor Obama is the worst president. Carter created 10 million new jobs in 4 years. Obama has created 6 million new jobs in 6 years.

George W. Bush created a net total of less than 3 million jobs in 8 years. In every measureable way possible, (economy, foreign policy, militarily, fiscal policy, etc.) Bush was far and away the worst president in US history.

stillsurfin 23 months ago


Since you’re fascinated with how many days US Presidents take…..

The Truth is that NO American President is really “on vacation” - their job is a 24 hour one.

But with that said, you might be interested to know the following facts:

Currently, Obama has taken 138 days of full or partial vacation.

For other recent 2 term Presidents:

GEORGE W. BUSH: 490 days

BILL CLINTON: 174 days

RONALD REAGAN: 349 days.

The difference is that Fox News didn’t make a big deal out of EVERY SINGLE vacation day that the preceding Presidents took, so only these days Fox News Minions bring up a Presidents’s "vacation days".

It is part of the The Fox News Minion Indoctrination and Training Program.

stillsurfin 23 months ago


I hate to tell you, but you're wasting your time typing.

Since you've completely lost your credibility as an "in-your-own-mind" Economist with your Corn Flakes and Spam Economic Indicator.

The only type words I even bothered to read was your nametag, since I knew the rest would be you claiming how rich and smart you supposedly are and other nonesense.

Silvia 23 months ago

....and from where did Obama accomplish all these "great" improvements; from the golf course or while on vacation? Why in spite of the "wonderful" things he's done, his popularity numbers have gone down & he surpassed Carter as the worst president in the history of the United States. Liberals have been brainwashed by Obama's "tell them what they want to hear".

pele0223 23 months ago

- I’d be happy to assist you with your inadequate knowledge of the Far East as well.

“Then, who do you hold up as the shining example of a robust Economy? CHINA !! .... CHINA !! A Communist Country where the Government OWNS it’s Business and Industry…. A Government who manipulates it’s Economy and it’s Currency to keep it’s export prices so low that it's Industrial Production keeps rolling - making products from dishpans to diapers that American Walmart shoppers scarf up as fast as they can put them in their shopping carts !!! Oh, keep believing America should emulate the Chinese Economy. What a joke.”(stillsurfin quote)

So much typing and wasted energy on something I never said. Let me educate you on some inadequate knowledge you have attained about China from who knows what source. Probably some news outlet that you claim others are “slaves to” or similar silly talk.

First off, China is one of the most entrepreneurial and diverse places on Earth. I maintain a residence here, used to be employed in Hong Kong, and currently own an office in Singapore, so I am more than qualified to talk about this subject than you. I used to make return trips to what was the largest and fastest growing city in the world a couple of years ago in a place called Chongqing, China. Probably a city you have never even heard of, due to the cave you are living in or due to the fact that your head is buried in the sand. The city has the population equivalent to that of Canada (30,000,000+), and let me tell you, the Chinese have more capitalism in their pinkie fingers than you do as an individual.

They don’t expect anything from the government. They work for it. By far, the hardest workers I have ever seen in all the world come from China. It’s just a shame that the GOVERNMENT has oppressed them in ways unimaginable throughout history. In recent times, the roles in government between the East and West have been in drastic transitions. Perhaps not on such a great scale as recent history suggests, but a large scale nonetheless. The west has continuously been moving more towards tightened security and regulations, as well as more authority through use of force and government takeovers, while the Chinese have consistently held plenums to open up their society more and more. Guaranteed, 99% of businesses run in that country are not big businesses, but SME’s that are privately owned. About 50% of the population that live in cities are self-employed, a number that dwarfs the United States, being in the 5-7% range. You know nothing about that country. You can look up all the information you’d like, just as you do your precious CPI numbers, but you are not qualified to have input unless you have lived it. Your inadequacy of ideas about what this country is all about is quite apparent. On the other hand, I have seen this country grow in precise, vivid detail. It is currently nothing how you are portraying it to be. THE USA AND CHINA ARE NOT COMPARABLE. YOU ARE THE ONE COMPARING CHINA AND THE USA. I SAID NOTHING OF THE SORT AND I CERTAINLY MADE NO MENTION THAT THE USA SHOULD EMULATE CHINA. What an ignorant assumption.

- China is a “country that manipulates its currency and economy”. (stillsurfin quote)

Again. Really? What is the USA currently doing via QE? Every country competes for a competitive advantage.

You also accuse others of being “minions” and obeying their “masters”, as well as proclaiming they are “sure to recognize” that some are “very obedient” “Far Right Wing Minions”. Really? Save the dorky language for a Dungean and Dragons competitions. You are just taking up space with that type of talk. Your lack of knowledge and unquestionable idiocy from your language and the subject at hand puts on clear display that you take no time to do your own research and you, my friend, are just as gullible about information coming your way than they are.

- “I’d suggest you post at Blogs where the readership are brain-dead” (stillsurfin quote)

I’d suggest I am posting in that particular direction now.

pele0223 23 months ago


If I were you, I'd stop while I was ahead. You are damaging the little credibility you supposedly have with every additional post you make. The first reply to my post was good-natured, but now you are throwing insults my way when I throw evidence your way. I do not need to waste my time exerting energy to tell you to stop acting like a child. Grow up.

Additionally, the continuity of confusion as to what I am talking about is obvious with each of your responses. The lack of comprehension and inconsistency in your replies shows that you are not paying attention and are putting words in my mouth, as you only see your points of view as fit. In this post, I’ll help you with some erroneous explanations and insults you threw my way. Of course, I'll do it in a polite manner. Once again, if you'd like, you can resort to your childish antics by saying that everyone who disagrees with you are telling "half-truths, lies" and spreading "propaganda", although there does exist a caveat for similar future behavior. Using this type of language is not useful, but only shows that you have run out of things to say that require intellect. Once again, it is not productive towards this conversation. It is just gibberish and does nothing to sway me or others towards supporting your opinions...

That being said, I'll continue to give you the benefit of the doubt, since I'm a realist, participant, and observer of the way things are, not the way they ought to be. I do not call myself an economist like you claim, as I believe common sense has left the realm of contemporary mainstream economics. Those who do understand the basic field of financial economics and global historical trends are the minority. I know many of these people whom are doing quite well. With certainty, I know much more information than you are putting on display about economics, finance, cultures, and historical trends, which have benefitted me with substantial advantages and methods to cut through all the nonsense I read. I know this because I have had a wonderful opportunity to produce a great track record in analyzing these events all around the world on 4 different continents for more year than you have probably been alive. My track record and expertise in fields such as these are undeniably superior to yours. I know this is the case due to previous statements you have made throughout this thread. Some of these statements and opinions you have made are beginner’s mistakes. Therefore, I'll help you out again:

- “Do you use the same Economic Indicators and Analytical Trends that ALL the Economists in EVERY Nation on Planet Earth use to gage the condition of an Economy?” (stillsurfin quote)

No. I actually don’t. You see, because this would be impossible. Different governments around the world have different methodologies for calculating their countries’ GDP, CPI, and other economic measures. Different research institutes also come up with different figures, although they try to be as close as measurably possible. A couple of the most respectable organizations that economists look to are international bodies and banks including the World Bank, the CIA World Factbook, and the United Nations, each having different rankings of countries and different numerical values. Do yourself a favor from now on and refrain from using capital letters to emphasize points that you obviously know nothing about. I’ll reply to your question with a similar, more appropriate response:

Q: “Do you use the same Economic Indicators and Analytical Trends that ALL the Economists in EVERY Nation on Planet Earth use to gage the condition of an Economy?” (stillsurfin quote)

A: No, I do not use the same economic indicators and analytical trends that ALL the economists in EVERY nation on the planet Earth use because EVERY NATION on PLANET EARTH DOES NOT USE THE SAME ECONOMIC INDICATORS and ANALYTICAL TRENDS TO GUAGE** THE CONDITION OF AN ECONOMY.

** Since you seem to like teaching definitions, I want to point out that:


*In this context, gage is used incorrectly. The definition for the term gage is “a valued object deposited as a guarantee of good faith.” In order to find the meaning for the term which should replace “gage”, which would be “gauge”, I will allow you to enjoy another definition for look-up.

- You seem a little disoriented about my stated opinion of the CPI as well. I said the CPI is not a reliable measure of inflation because the US governments’ results are hiding the true extent and nature of common everyday items the average person utilizes and consumes. Consequently, it is a faulty measurement.

- I gave you proof through a real-world experiment. If you really think I "cherry-picked" items to prove a point because I possess a bias towards one side, you are certainly mistaken. I neither have the time nor energy to exert on such a task. That is undeniably an ill-considered accusation and one that holds no merit. Every time I return to the United States, prices are obviously rising at a higher rate than recent latter years before the implementation of QE. This is a fact. I can see it with my own eyes.

- One such example is healthcare. If healthcare is 18% of the U.S. GDP, i.e. 18 cents of every dollar goes to healthcare, then how can a mere 7% wedge of the CPI devoted to healthcare be remotely accurate? It can't.

- So to help you understand where I was going on the CPI, I will explain in deeper detail. The CPI is intrinsically flawed. WHAT REALLY MATTERS is the purchasing power of earned income, i.e. wages and the exposure to real-world costs. To show this, I chose to do this experiment

- Again, your accusation of me cherry-picking goods is ludicrous. I would not waste so much time and energy to prove a point just to be biased or spread “propaganda” like you claim. That reasoning is absurd and would be a very lengthy process. I chose this basket of goods because the chosen goods are a more reliable example of common household everyday items the average man utilizes and consumes. I did not sit behind my computer, looking up statistics which could be fudged by the government to adhere to my opinion about the CPI or the rate of inflation, unlike the method you resorted to.

- “pele0223’s latest propaganda attempt is to mislead by claiming the American Economy is not better now than in 2009 because of his CFAS (Corn Flakes And Spam) data.” “You use the price of Corn Flakes and a can of Spam to dispute that the FACT that the US Economy has had 63 straight months of Economic Growth.” “What a joke.” (stillsurfin quotes)

*Nice try but Corn Flakes and Spam were not included in the samples. The goods and services included in the chosen basket of goods are those that are included for each category listed in the government’s CPI, excluding healthcare and education. Go ahead and throw a sample of healthcare and education in the mix. It won’t help your asserted correlation. The additions will invalidate your argument even further as we all know education and healthcare costs are skyrocketing in greater proportions than the preceding goods used to calculate the CPI.

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cherryholmes 23 months ago from Huntsville

"Reality has a well-known liberal bias." -- This election tomorrow is not based on issues. There are no facts being shared. There is only a mood. "It’s a mood of anxiety. It’s a mood of fear. It’s a mood of suspicion of elites. It’s a mood of a suspicion of the ruling establishment, the expert class. There are a lot of people who are really disenfranchised from the establishment." - David Brooks -- Basically the impetus for voting red is ignorance. Voters not realizing what the government does for them. They only believe that the poor, specifically people of color, are cause of their shrinking quality of life. And somehow they have been convinced that this President of color is the problem. Just look at these facts and you see that it just isn't true. Yet these conservative voters will vote against their own best interest and the only Americans that will prosper from their vote are the top one percent.

stillsurfin 23 months ago

david mulloy,

Since you appear to be an expert on Fracking and the Keystone Oil Pipeline maybe you can answer a question for me.

Once any oil is refined into gasoline and other oil products, Tanker Trucks are used for distributing it all over America.

Proponents of the Keystone Pipeline say that the Tar Sands Oil will completely bypass all the existing and future refineries in the midwest and be refined into gasoline and other oil products at the Refineries located on the Gulf of Mexico …… but, ONLY be sold for use in America.

They also say that NONE of the crude oil will be exported off US soil ….. but, instead all of it will be refined and all the oil products will be distributed inside the US by tanker trucks.

They also say that the Oil Companies will turn down any and all extra profit that could be obtained by exporting it as crude oil or refined oil products because they "care more" about America than money.

In other words the Big Oil Companies will restrict their normal Capitalistic tendencies to make as much profit as possible - and, instead sell it for below market prices inside America for the “greater socialistic good” of America.

So, since all the gasoline and other oil products is going to be transported by Truck inside of the US anyway …... my question is:

Why does the Keystone Pipeline have to extend all the way to the Gulf of Mexico where the only advantage is access to the open seas…...when there are many current and future oil refineries already located in the midwest states closer to the Tar Sands themselves that could refine most or all of it locally and reduce the Tanker Truck distribution costs?

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jeff61b 23 months ago Author

david mulloy -

Your Al Gore global warming story is a very entertaining fiction that right wingers love to tell.

Thank you for parroting what Alex Jones and Glenn Beck say without expressing a single coherent, original thought of your own.

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jeff61b 23 months ago Author

Gorak –

If you scroll through the 250+ comments above yours, you will see a lot of people have tried responding to each fact as you have done, but none have done a worse job than you.

You simply reply “No it isn’t” to every fact and you offer no sources of information or real facts of your own. But I’ll take the time to respond to a couple of your comments.

The statistics about jobs created is not the same thing as the unemployment rate. The job creation numbers come from the Department of Labor. They keep track of new hires as well as job losses. By subtracting the job losses from the new hires, they get the total number of jobs created for the month.

Of course it’s more complicated than that, but your stubborn refusal to accept the Labor Department’s job creation numbers does not change the fact that we have had 55 uninterrupted months of private sector job creation.

Like many people who've responded to this article, you struggle to understand the difference between the deficit and the debt. But you conceded that the deficit is shrinking.

Your comment about income taxes makes no mathematical sense. The fact remains Obama has raised income taxes on nobody – absolutely nobody – who makes under $400,000 a year.

The rest of your comments are equally pointless and refute none of the facts from the article.

david mulloy 23 months ago

A couple of these have a small amount of merit, and Obama is not responsible for either of them!

The rest are outright fabrications, due to deliberate scewing of the research Data!!

Democrats are well adept to scewe data to favor their "Fraudulent Assertions".

"Hydraulic Fracturing" is a minimumly invasive for of forcing shale oil out of oil laden rock, with Water, that brings residual oil from dryed up wells!!

It is quite possibly the key to American Prosperity, as is Keystone XL pipeline!!

Anyone who would sacrifice the welfare of this Great Nation, to prevent harm that has "Clearly" has been "Debunked" by actual Science, unlike "Man Made Global Warming" which was "Debunked" by the man who originally created the entire Theory of Global Warming, When he tried to explain to a convention of Al Gore Supporters and "Global Warming Alarmists" That his research was Faulty, Al Gore had him arrested as a trespasser, and later testified in "Competancy Hearings" that put the Originator in a "Mental Institution"!!

Al Gore once told the World that this same man, was his mentor, and the Original source of "Global Warming Theory"!! The Professor could not remember ever having Al Gore as a student, much less, a student of his interest!!

Just more Leftist Fraud! But that is just what Leftists Do!! They Tell Enormous lies, and when the truth starts coming out, the blame it's failure on the Right!!

stillsurfin 24 months ago


Actually I retract my previous statement and apologize.

I re-read you post and noticed that you are against Fracking !

NO fully-indoctrinated Fox News Minion would ever be against Fracking because the Koch brothers own too many acres of Shale and they pay Fox News big bucks to keep their Minions in favor of Fracking !!!

stillsurfin 24 months ago


Yes, statistics can be used in a number of ways. Fox News is expert at misleading Minions with partial truth and misleading statstics.

But, you should feel good about yourself...Your Masters are very proud of you... They are sure to recognize that you're a very obedient Far Right Wing Minion.

GORAK 24 months ago

Statistics can be used however you want. Share this with your liberal hippy friends . . .

#1 is wrong - the economy has contracted in several quarters since his presidency. That's a flat out lie. Most notably, the economy contracted 2.1% in the second quarter of this year.

#2 is also a lie. For example, we lost 100,000 jobs in the fourth quarter of 2013. Also, this statistic is bogus because it doesn't include people who stopped actually looking for jobs - which is up under Obama above any previously historically recorded level.

#3 - see my response to #2. The statistics are flawed because people just simply stopped looking. The real number of undermployed is at an all time high.

#4 is good, but not a direct result of Obama. We've basically just recovered what we lost of the last 10 years. We've had growth because we were coming up from nothing.

#5 - the ANNUAL deficit is shrinking. The overall deficit is $17,771,000,000,000. When Obama took office, it was only 10,000,000,000,000. So he's basically increased our national debt by 70% since taking office.

#6 - Obama's annual spending increase may be lower, but if you look at it as a function of debt to GDP (what our economy actually produces), it's one of the worst - his spending as a percentage of GDP is 7.3% - or more than double of Bush.

#7 - Income taxes are lower because Americans are making less money. In fact, the average worker, adjusted for inflation, is making less than he made 10 years ago.

#8 - we're producing more oil because we're fracking, which is destroying our environment. Go America.

#9 - yes, more people have insurance because they're required by law to have it, or else they face stiff penalties.

#10 - the cost to making Medicare stable has been to increase taxes on the most productive members of our society - the top tax rate is now 42.8% - pretty much the highest its been since you or I have been alive.

#11 - the rate of health care cost rate increases has slowed, but it's still more than triple the rate of annual inflation.

#12 - our military is smaller, which costs less, but has reduced our global infuence. On a foreign policy front, we have failed in Ukraine, failed in Syria, failed in Iraq, are failing in Afghanistan, have failed in North Korea and are China and Russia's bitch. He has bungled every foreign policy opportunity he has had.

#13 - Since Obama has taken office, zombie outbreaks have also been at an all time low.

#14 - He's deported more because the influx of illegals under his watch are up more than any other president ever. In fact, it's now been proven that the most recent influx is directly related to his immigration policy and leniency.

People who believe this link you're sending out are the same people who have been bamboozled and flimflammed by Obamma in the first place.

stillsurfin 24 months ago

oops.... I had a typo....

I meant the any preceding 6 consecutive years earlier than 2009 will have a HIGHER cumulative CPI change than the last 6 years.

Meaning that the last 6 years have had the lowest change in CPI of any 6 consecutive years since 1966.

stillsurfin 24 months ago

For those of you interested…..

pele0223’s latest propaganda attempt is to mislead by claiming the American Economy is not better now than in 2009 because of his CFAS (Corn Flakes And Spam) data.

He claims these 2 things (in his own words)

"I wanted to convey that the CPI has been recently rising at a faster rate, not that it is only rising. The CPI is a total fraud”

Notice the illogic:

First, he gives “credibility" to the CPI as an important indicator trying to prove that the American Economy hasn’t improved because SUPPOSEDLY because the CPI is rising at a faster rate recently.

Then, he flips the logic by saying the CPI is a "total fraud".

If he believes that the CPI is a total fraud….. how can it be an indicator of ANYTHING?

Well, that is a Propaganda Technique called “Obfuscation”

Obfuscation - The intent is to confuse the reader by first claiming something HAS importance followed by another claim the same thing has NO importance (in this case because the CPI is a total fraud).

I haven’t quite figured out if he is intentionally trying to mislead or if he is just plain ignorant.

Regardless, he is 100% wrong in both claims and further misrepresents and misleads what the Consumer Price Index (CPI) is ….(another Propaganda Technique).

The CPI is 1 of 3 measures of Inflation.

1. The Consumer Price Index (CPI) measures inflation as experienced by consumers in their day-to-day living expenses

2. The Producer Price Index (PPI) measures Inflation at earlier stages of production.

3. The Employment Cost Index (ECI) measures inflation in the Labor Market.

The CPI is made up of:

14% - Food and Beverages

41.4% - Housing

3.4% - Apparel

16.4% - Transportation

7.6% - Medical Care

5.8% - Recreation

7.1% -Education & Communication

3.4% - a number of other smaller categories

Here is where pele0223 is either a confused "Hack Economist" or intentionally a propagandist…..

He cherry picks (another Propaganda Technique) 20 things and says “see the CPI is a total fraud because the 20 items I HAVE CHERRY PICKED have risen faster than what the CPI numbers show !”

Obviously, pele0223 doesn’t really have a clue what CPI really is because he can’t explain why his 20 item personal “pele’s CFAS data” doesn’t match the CPI data…. and he thinks the fact that they don’t match has some relevance or importance … which of course, is complete BS.

It’s BS because, as Consumers we get the financial impact of ALL the categories that make up the CPI, not just the 20 items that pele0223 chooses.

Yes, food (14% of the CPI) has risen faster than other items that make up the CPI - but that means that there have been other items in the CPI that have risen slower than food.

So what is the Truth about CPI?

Here is the data from 1913 to September 2014.

Go to the far right column and you’ll see the annual average.

Check out the numbers for the last 6 years and you’ll see that the averages range from a low of -0.4 to a high of 3.2.

Now pick ANY 6 consecutive years from 1966 to 2009 and you’ll find that the total change in CPI for any of those 6 years is LOWER than the change has been for the last 6 years.

And, watch out because there are many shysters like pele0223 who are either ignorant hacks or intentional propagandists………either way they have become a bigger problem in America since Obama has taken office.

stillsurfin 24 months ago


Yeah, I do get a bit condescending when I encounter somebody who learned how to spell the word “Economy" and then fancies themselves as an “Economist".

You spew out nonsense like:

GDP data - "a joke"

Unemployment data - "a joke"

CPI data - “garbage"

Do you use the same Economic Indicators and Analytical Trends that ALL the Economists in EVERY Nation on Planet Earth use to gage the condition of an Economy?

No, Of course not ….. you use the price of Corn Flakes and a can of Spam to dispute that the FACT that the US Economy has had 63 straight months of Economic Growth.

What a joke.

Then, who do you hold up as the shining example of a robust Economy?

CHINA !! .... CHINA !!

A Communist Country where the Government OWNS it’s Business and Industry…. A Government who manipulates it’s Economy and it’s Currency to keep it’s export prices so low that it's Industrial Production keeps rolling - making products from dishpans to diapers that American Walmart shoppers scarf up as fast as they can put them in their shopping carts !!!

Oh, keep believing America should emulate the Chinese Economy.

What a joke.

Then you have the gall to use Half Truths, Lies, Misrepresentations and other Propaganda Techniques to try convince others that the American Economy is worse now than in 2009.

I’d suggest you post at Blogs where the readership are brain-dead, indoctrinated Tea Baggers who will eat up your Propaganda and rejoice that it supports the distorted world they mentally live in and their hatred of the first Black United States President.

So, go away or I shall continue to fart in your general direction.

Aaron 24 months ago

Congress is to blame for this.....

pele0223 24 months ago

I am by no means saying the man does not mean well or that he is not trying. America just needs someone better. Both parties misallocate resources, they just tend to favor those who are their voter base. Moreover, Obama and the Democrats snuggle with the Wall St. and 1% just as much as the Republicans.

Moreover, more people have left the job market than gained employment. I don't know why you only keep saying "our economy has gotten stronger and created lots of new jobs". If this was the case, we wouldn't need all the QE and low interest rates, as well as borrowing historical amounts of money to gain these minute so-called increases.

I'd like to ask the readers of this thread and yourself a question or two. Very simple questions about the allocation of resources and the consequences that come about upon government intervention.

1) What happens when government imposes minimum wage?

2) What is the correlation between the stock market and the monetary base, along with interest rates?

If you could answer these simple questions correctly, you will see that policies often have effects that their architects did not intend or anticipate, although they meant well. Usually, these policies end up hurting the ones they plan to help so much and benefiting the ones who already have succeeded in life. This is due to the fact that they are professional politicians who have no real-world experience in the handling of businesses or due to the fact they know that promising something for nothing always gets a vote. Many people don't understand that everything has a cost and nothing is free. Just because you help people out with a kind heart via foodstamps, healthcare, taxing the rich, etc. does not mean it provides benefits to those who are supposed to be on the receiving end, let alone the overall society. Sometimes using your head is stronger than blindly following your heart. Unfortunately, most people fall prey to the latter.

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jeff61b 24 months ago Author

pele0223 -

There are undoubtedly some disturbing trends in our economy - trends that long pre-date this president. Most of the critics of this article want to put all the blame for any negative trends on President Obama.

As I see it, there are several reasons for the harmful direction that our country is heading in. Almost everything that the government does anymore is geared to benefit the top 2% at the expense of everyone else. Republicans are especially inclined to work toward redistributing wealth from the middle class to the very wealthy.

I believe that President Obama was sincerely trying to stop the redistribution of wealth and Republicans decided on day one that they would prevent anything, no matter how routine, from getting accomplished. Even when Democrats had both houses of Congress, Senate Republicans tried to kill every bill with the filibuster in order to make this president fail, and consequently, to make our country fail.

It is difficult to claim that President Obama's policies have been a failure when, after nearly six years, those policies have still never been enacted.

Whenever anyone threatens to return some power back to the bottom 98%, Republicans do everything they can to stop it. President Obama has disappointed progressives because he has been very conservative and implements a lot of Republican ideas. So naturally, Republicans keep calling him a socialist.

Since President Obama ended the Bush recession, our economy has gotten stronger and created lots of new jobs. But the dangerous long term trends will not improve until we restore more power to the bottom 98% of Americans so that Congress will not constantly work to benefit only the very rich.

As the election of 2014 appears to be showing, people can be easily manipulated to vote against their own best interests if you spend enough money to convince them its in their best interest.

pele0223 24 months ago


It's come to be that you could not be any more confused about your opinions. The OVERALL trend is not moving in an upward direction.You throwing out accusations of certain things from left field does no good towards this debate nor your intellect.

Half-truths?Misrepresentations? Irrelevant facts? Dishing out a bunch of right-wing propaganda? I've stated things that both the left and right are responsible for and the actions they take in regards to my previous comments are simultaneous and eerily similar. What the hell are you talking about? Once again, I am not tied up in political talking points as you seem so adamant in thinking so. Just because I know that the economy is declining doesn't mean I hate Obama or that I hate democrats. It's a realization of the understanding in observations and economics and global trends. It's not the political pandering of one side versus the other in one country, which many people such as yourself seem to be caught up in.

You are not looking at the overall macro trends, so you cannot understand. Additionally, I wanted to convey that the CPI has been recenly rising at a faster rate, not that it is only rising. The CPI is a total fraud. If you own a business, run a company, or have any sense you would know this.

If you think the government printing and borrowing all this money at historical highs and accumulating record amounts of debt does not cause an increased rate of higher prices, YOUR CREDIBILITY IN BUSINESS AND ECONOMICS IS SEVERELY DAMAGED. MINE IS JUST FINE. You should have grasped this concept in Econ101. Don't be so naive just because you look at a BLS statistic. Read up on financial economics and monetary policy. Your history seems a little too narrow as well. I'd catch up a bit by looking at longer time frames and past economies once-vibrant societies.

To clear up your confusion, I ran a little experiment TO HELP YOU WITH YOU UNDERSTAND HOW THE ECONOMY WORKS.

I selected 20 consumer goods that people buy every week. I'll compare the increase in the price of this basket during two time periods. During the decade in the 1970's, when everyone agrees there was lots of inflation, and during the recent 10-year period, ending in 2012.The basket of goods include the following :


-new cars






-dental services




-airline tickets


-store-purchased beer


-public transportation




-prescription drugs

From 1970-1980, the CPI rose by 112%. That was the official number which the government gave to the people. My basket of goods that I chose rose 117%.

Now let's look at 2002-2012. During this 10-year period, the official CPI rose just 27.5%. My basket of goods rose 44.3%. I'll save you from doing some math. The prices of goods in my basket rose 61% faster than the official CPI. Contrast that to the goods that only rose 5% faster in the 1970's.

One of the categories not in our basket but included in the CPI are newspapers and magazines. According to the government, from 1999 to the end of 2012, the price of newspapers and magazines increased by 37.1%. I decided to take a look around my office and home to compare the prices between 1999 and the prices of 2012 just for kicks. After all, it's very easy to check the prices. They are printed right on the front covers. I looked at the prices of America's 10 most popular newspapers and magazines:


-Washington Post



-US News and World Report



-The New York Times

-USA Today

-The Los Angeles Times

The average increase in the cover prices are 131.5% versus the official price increase of 37%. Again, I'll save you from doing some math, as you clearly have displayed just looking at "facts" are justifiable for your misunderstanding of economics. This is 3.5x what the government claims it was. You are unknowingly just serving as a mouthpiece to nonfactual data. Perhaps you should not be so lazy and forgo so much trust to what the government tells you.

Apparently, you are careless in your purchases and pay no attention to price increases, but only look towards government information as a basis for your past and future decisions and observations, just like the author. That's a dangerous game you are playing. So I suggest you do the same type of experiment for future purchases and financial forecasts you make for your important life decisions. You'll find it will do you much more benefit than being lazy and searching BLS government statistics online.

-"But, the fact remains that virtually every economic indicator demonstrates the American Economy is better now than in 2009." (stillsurfin quote)

Quite the contrary. Our economy is currently being held on life support thanks to the largest bond bubble the world has ever seen and artificial zero percent interest rates. Once that life support is taken away, you'll see the reality of the situation. I suggest you study the economic history of countries who have followed the same route as our current.

Your lack of understanding in the financial realm of economics is astounding. YOY, we are still increasing our overall debt. Over time, people with money and wealth do not trust others who cannot pay their debts. Moreover, they certainly do not trust a person who borrows more money to pay off previous debt, exacerbating their liabilities in the process. The same concept goes for governments, private investors that fund governments, and companies. Governments and private individuals already do not trust us. Why do you think we are going to our central bank? It's the last resort.

So once again, I will say that this article is just pure talking points for President Obama. Most of these replies, including the author, seem to be more interested in gathering support for his politician of choice and making talking points rather than realizing and learning about what makes our overall society better off. Our economy is not only a sluggish one, but one that is in decline overall. These points you make about the current leader paint a false narrative of the overall situation we are in.

Your definition of a growing economy is not the actual definition. Do not resort to name-calling. I tell you this not because it hurts my feelings, but because it makes you look like an ass and it shows your frustration. Read up on some Econ101 and get back to me. You'll be a new man.

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jeff61b 24 months ago Author

Here is a great summary of numbers from relating to the improvements in America under the Obama presidency. Not all the numbers are good, but overall the improvements have been excellent and still improving.

pele0223 24 months ago

Once again, looking at indicators and not asking "why" these improvements have taken place is the flaw in your philosophy. I never once mentioned Fox news nor are "screaming Republicans with pitchforks" affecting my economic decision-making. Do not be so condescending. I'm not one of those you can talk down to. I do not get caught up in the politics. My response mainly came from an economic stance. Additionally, the CPI is garbage as well. Pick up something from the recent past (magazines, bread, milk.....) and tell me the CPI isn't rising. Then I'll believe you.

Actually, people who are going to make the most money out of these policies agree with my side, not yours. Only because, well, we actually understand what is going on and how this man's policies affect the flow of resources and the economy as well as how he is directing mass misallocations.

The man could have had a faster recovery but he has just reflated the old bubble. It's an artificial recovery. We are still in a bubble economy. He is making things worse.

FYI: calling me unintelligent or an Obama-hater serves you injustice, as I am neither of those and I am 99.9999% sure that I am much more successful than you in the economic realm. So please, leave the condescending remarks behind and direct them to someone who will enjoy the childish remarks.

stillsurfin 24 months ago


1st I’m not promoting or defending President Obama and and certainly NOT claiming that he and he alone is responsible for the improvement in the American Economy.

Frankly, as I’ve said before I would have preferred his Administration would have taken steps so the Economy was not quite so "heated up" as it is today …….

But, the fact remains that virtually every economic indicator demonstrates the American Economy is better now than in 2009.

Is it a booming economy, no.

Is it a perfect economy, no.

is it the best economy in the history of the US, no

But that is what you keep trying to compare this current Economy to …. in your head.

The Utopian Economy you envision could NEVER have been in place within 6 years regardless of WHO was President of the United States in 2009.

What you fail to understand is the actual state of the Economy at the end of the Bush era. It was the 2nd LARGEST ECONOMIC DISASTER America has faced.

To try give you some perspective …. the 1st largest “The Great Depression” lasted 11 YEARS (officially), although it was 13 YEARS American wasn’t back to 1928 employment levels until 1943.

,,,,,,,,, 13 YEARS…..spanning 3 Presidential Administrations, 1 with Hoover and 2 with Roosevelt.

You “appear" to be intelligent, but you are misguided in believing (probably caused by the CONSTANT AND LOUD political hype of the "screaming republicans with pitchforks) that the American Economy should have been fully recovered and booming by now.

That is utter nonsense !

Especially if a person has an “adult" understanding of Business & Economics.

I’m sorry you’ve fallen prey to that political BS.

Unfortunately, throughout your posts, you introduce a few “facts" then use those facts to try make a point using FLAWED logic, you also intersperse simple nonsense as though it has some direct meaning to to help prove your points.

For educated intelligent individuals who do understand business and economics…. your credibility and logic are severely damaged.

case in point:

you say "*The cost of living continues to rise at a steady pace”…. WTF…….The Cost of living ALWAYS continues at a steady pace !!!

You work it into your post in as some “indicator" to prove the economy is worse now than in 2009, and that is complete BS.

The CPI increases have actually been lower on average during the last 6 years than anytime since 1966 !!

But, the most egregious error in you logic is using some facts to draw incorrect and illogical conclusions.

case in point:

"Point 1):

Not true- This article cites GDP figures and the U6 employment rate, both of which are a joke by the way they are measured."

Yes it is TRUE that the GDP calculation was changed in 2013 but you attempt to use that “fact” as a stand alone bullet to pretend the entire argument is invalid.

The FACT that that the GDP calculation changed did result in the recession appearing to not be as bad and the recovery not as sharp….. but the FACT IS ……. THERE STILL HAS BEEN A RECOVERY !!!!

Look at the green lines in the chart on the weblink below…..does that green line look flat or going downward to you?????

No, the trend is upward…. the American Economy IS improving, but not as much as it would have with the previous GDP formula.

This is the consistent flaw in your arguments, which unintelligent individuals or Obama Haters could easily fall prey to - it is a Propaganda Technique called “half-truth”.

"A half-truth is a deceptive statement that includes some element of truth. It comes in several forms: the statement might be partly true, the statement may be totally true but only part of the whole truth, or it may utilize some deceptive element, such as improper punctuation, or double meaning, especially if the intent is to deceive, evade, blame, or misrepresent the truth.”

The bottom line is that you WANT to believe the Economy hasn’t improved over the last 6 years for your own personal reasons….. AND, you want to try convince others of that lie, too.

But, "trying to prove" the American Economy has not improved using half-truths, misrepresentations and irrelevant facts is intellectually dishonest !

…… and only childish, unenlightened, unintelligent individuals - or - Obama Haters actually believe you”.

The rest see it for what it is…. just another person dishing out of a bunch of propaganda to the flock of Right Wing Political Fundamentalist Minions.

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jeff61b 24 months ago Author


Many people have written long, point by point responses like yours. None of them have told me anything I didn't already know.

As much as I hate to keep repeating myself, I'll explain this again.

Fox News and others are constantly portraying everything in a negative light. When gas prices were going up, it was Obama’s fault. When gas prices went down, it was bad for our economy and Obama was to blame.

The purpose of this article was never to give a comprehensive evaluation of the current state of the country. The purpose was to make people aware of some facts they may have forgotten and to disprove some myths that many people wrongly believe about the Obama presidency.

Every president is powerless to do much of anything without the help of Congress. During most of Obama’s presidency, Republicans have stymied every attempt to pass anything, even the most routine legislation. And they have been killing anything that might improve the economy.

When complaining about the state of the country, people need to realize that Congress has been controlled by people deliberately trying to make things worse.

Most of your comments about specific points have been stated by others and I have already responded to them.

Interesting that you said #5 is untrue, then you immediately concede that it is completely true and proceed to switch to the national debt which was not the topic of that statement.

This whole experience of writing this article has opened my eyes to all the myths and falsehoods that many people believe. I am told that inflation is at an all time high. Untrue. It is extremely low.

Obama has set new records for time spent on vacation. Untrue. Obama is on track to spend less than one-third as much time on vacation a GW Bush and half as much as Reagan.

Obama has issued a record number of executive orders. False. Obama has issued far fewer executive orders than any other recent presidents.

The list goes on and on. This is why I am glad I wrote this article, to refute the multitude of falsehoods that are out there.

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StevenAK 24 months ago

No matter what happens under Obama: jobs, improved economy, health care, safety, level spending, on and on...there are those that simply will never accept it or respect him. I am not sure if its a race issue or just that Obama is a symbol of the changing landscape of America or just that older, white folks have such a loud platform via fox entertainment. But my best guess is that the conservative machine messages well. Try this: watch the Sunday shows and follow the conservative party for one week. They will all say the SAME thing. Its amazing. Then listen to the entertainers and read the RNC website...all the same, and if you hear the same things over and over its easier to accept and spit out when asked.

pele0223 24 months ago

stillsurfin and jeff61b,

Why is the economy doing better? Is it "better" because of the artificial growth? I have a hard time understanding why you don't see that things are getting worse overall during this man's presidency. First, I'll break it down so hopefully you can come to realize that you are painting the picture a little too rosy for everyone. I'll then proceed to dismantle your points in a way that after reading, you will have a better understanding that only observing these "facts" from articles and government statistics are not benefiting your comprehension of the current situation:

FYI: To observe economic trends, I haven't watched major news outlets such as CNN, Fox News, and MSNBC in years, as well as other news outlets including the alternative media stations that have become so widespread recently in America, as they are all garbage. I have a very unique set of feeds via of certain intranets from a select few consulting, industrial, and banking businesses from around the world due to my vested interests and occupation. I rarely, almost never, participate in these exchanges, as I see it a HUGE waste of time because people, as stillsurfin claims, are in denial. Regardless, here are some more "facts" that represent a larger trend than the small lens you are looking through:

*50% Of American Workers Make Less Than $28,031 A Year

*American paychecks shrank last year, just-released data show, further eroding the public’s purchasing power, which is so vital to economic growth

*Average pay for 2013 was $43,041 — down $79 from the previous year when measured in 2013 dollars

-please keep in mind that "average pay" is tremendously skewed by

the millionaires and billionaires at the top end of the spectrum

*It has been estimated that it takes approximately $50,000 a year to support a middle class lifestyle for a family of four, and so the fact that 72 percent of all workers make less than that amount shows how difficult it is for families that try to get by with just a single breadwinner

*The cost of living continues to rise at a steady pace

*Small business ownership in America today is at an ALL-TIME LOW SINCE BEING MEASURED, thanks to our wonderful bureaucracy and our government that some claim to "help" job growth (just some advice: government doesn't create jobs and are the least effective at maintaining them, due to having no profit-motive. Every time the government passes a law or "creates" a job, all it does is misallocate resources to get lobbying money or votes)

-the Federal Reserve revealed that small business ownership in

America "fell substantially" between 2010 and 2013. Even in the

midst of this so-called "economic recovery", small business ownership

in America has now fallen to an all-time low

*According to the U.S. Census Bureau, 49 percent of all Americans now live in a home that receives money from the government each month

Breakdown by points mentioned in article:

Point 1):

Not true- This article cites GDP figures and the U6 employment rate, both of which are a joke by the way they are measured. Once again, our methodology for the way we calculate GDP has been changed by the Obama administration to persuade everyone that the economy is moving towards a favorable direction, when in reality, it is declining sharply, while all of the wealth is making a historic shift from the West to the East. The U6 (official employment rate mentioned in your Forbes article) has counted a record number of jobs gained are "temporary, part-time, service-sector jobs"

Point 2)

Who cares?- If our labor participation rate is at an all-time low, these facts in this article do not matter. More people are leaving the work force than people gaining employment

Point 3)

Not true- Again, the U6 is a joke. In the future, I'd recommend not looking at this statistic for economic observation on employment

Point 4)

True (in a bad sense)- Unfortunately, stocks are rising due to the historic amount of money we are borrowing and printing that is flooding Wall St. with cheap money and low interest rates. This encourages speculation, spending (not saving), and behavior that is not typical of a normal economy. In the process, the middle-class and small businesses that make up 99.7% of our economy are not seeing the benefits of this cheap money. Just because stocks rise, you conclude this is a good thing. Again, look at the broader picture and ask yourself "Why are stocks rising? Is it because of our monetary policy? Fiscal policy? Private sector growth? Investment?" Once you comprehend this facet of the economy, I guarantee that you will better grasp the stock market and its behavior. Additionally, you will observe that rising stock prices do not always produce beneficial and desirable gains for the overall economy and this trend is one of severe negative proportion.

Point 5)

Not true-Although the federal deficit is the amount each year by which federal expenditures exceed federal receipts, the gross federal debt drastically increases each year by substantially more than the amount of the deficit each year. That is because a substantial amount of federal borrowing is not counted in the budget. Additionally, the 2015 FY has already been budgeted. And guess what? It's going up too.

Point 6)

This is outrageous and complete nonsense. Refer to Point 5 and the unadhered to debt

Point 7)

And?- So what? Our borrowing through bond issuance's to our central bank has increased exponentially. Just because our tax rates haven't changed doesn't give you the right to proclaim our financial and economic health is getting any better as a nation.

Point 8)

True- Great, we need energy. Way to go Obama. At least he understands this.

Points 9-11)

Nothing is free. We all know there is a cost for everything. The costs in this bill outweigh the benefits. Believe me when I say this is not beneficial for most people. I do not even want to start getting into that shitty bill that was passed to mainly support our already bloated healthcare companies that consistently lobby for support.

Point 12)

True- We also have an overwhelmingly larger proportion of mercenaries, many of whom had transferred from the US military, because they can earn more money doing this rather than being in the US military or taking up an occupation at home. They would rather risk their lives gaining money (as most of these guys fight for money, not for patriotism. Watch some interviews and read some transcripts) than attain insipid employment back in their homeland. Most all of the highly-skilled soldiers have left the US military in drones to join these mercenary forces. There are more private military contractors than actual US military personnel. That shift continues to occur during Obama's presidency as well as expand.

Point 13)

Really?- Who cares what Dick Cheney says? I cannot believe that was mentioned. This is political rhetoric. He is a professional politician. You are a moron if you listen to him.

Point 14)

True- The subsections could not be more incorrect though. Net job creation? No risk of financial collapse? I'm out of steam. See sections above as I would become repetitive if I addressed these "facts" again.

jeff61b: I really don't mean to narrow my focus on you, but you are the author supporting your piece of writing so it is justified to do so. Next time, I think you should look a little deeper and ask yourself "Why?", not just cite some articles and fudged government statistics. It hurts your credibility for future posts on any economic and political subjects. You only mention the positive outcomes and leave no room for the unintended consequences that result from our current situation, which mostly outweigh the positive effects that are aforementioned.

Your advice to KilaWatts is transferable. I would alter the sentence with one word. Instead of saying "hatred", replace that with "support". As it should read:

Your misdirected support for Obama does nothing to make your life any better.

B McNeal 24 months ago

Since it has much to do with Obama's actual accomplishments; the fact remains, in almost every measurable way, the American people are profoundly better off today than they were before Twilight hit the theaters.

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jeff61b 24 months ago Author

KilaWatts -

Thanks for sharing your life story. Much of the book you wrote had little to do with this article, or Obama or well, anything relating to the subjects being discussed here. Nevertheless, you poured your heart out so thank you for commenting.

I have to admit, I would have preferred to hear some good fighter pilot stories about landing planes on aircraft carriers. (A sincere thank you for your service, by the way).

When people are down on their luck they naturally tend to blame whoever is in the White House. Little of your story relates directly to anything President Obama has actually done.

And I might add some of your facts are actually urban myths. For example, government employees are not exempt from the Affordable Care Act.

Your misdirected hatred for Obama does nothing to make your life any better.

koolb 24 months ago

Kool-Aid drinkers, the left are.

stillsurfin 24 months ago


Man, you really are pitiful. Your story is such a sad one.

But, from your recent post you sound like someone who takes little to no personal responsibility for your poor life decisions ..... blaming others for your failures in marriage, finances and employment.

Every wonder why you keep fired from it always because of someone or something else and never a result of what you do?

Instead of blaming the President of the United States for your personal problems, you should man-up and take personal responsibility for your life.

The sooner you understand that what happens to you in life is a direct result of what YOU do... the decisions YOU make.... the actions YOU take.... the better off your life will be.

Yes, we ALL have problems, that is just the way life is.

But, blaming President Obama and others for your pathetic life will only result you continuing to be unhappy, unfulfilled, and unsuccessful.

I suggest you read Ann's posts above .... now there is an individual who takes responsibility for her life. She works hard, is optimistic, and while she may not have all the riches in the world ------ She IS a success.

You.... you're just pitiful.

stillsurfin 24 months ago

The FACT is the American Economy IS better now than in 2009.

Wether elements of the Economic Recovery are a direct result of Obama's actions are debatable.

Wether or not it should have been a stronger or weaker Economic Recovery is also debatable.

However ..... ANYONE who denies the fact it IS better is clearly one of those indoctrinated Political Fundamentalists who find it impossible to see Truth - because of their "mental conditioning".

Unfortunately, that mental conditioning creates Belief Structure that is not based on Reality and it makes it virtually impossible for them to see Truth.

No amount of facts, data, honest and impartial dialog, or fair and balanced information can penetrate a mind once it has been closed to reality and an alternate reality has been implanted ..... That is the power of Propaganda.

If you are one of those individuals that believes the American Economy is not better now than it was in 2009, you should really take some time to try understand:

What has happened to you?

When did it happen and how often was that belief implanted.

Who have you been listening to and what was their motive?

..... and......

Why is it now impossible for you to see Truth even when the evidence is right in front of you?

Wakeupwarrior 24 months ago

I think you all need to WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!

Do you all not find it funny that every "fact" either side quotes as being "true" is always easily refuted by the other side?

Your belief that Any of this is reality is laughable. Both sides are so obviously quoting their perspective media outlet and all the while not acknowledging that the common denominator amongst ALL of you is that ALL of your "facts" are coming from said media outlets.

Your collective knowledge of what's really going on in the world is worth fuck all.

The media outlets are all owned by the same people who have the same agenda and who all understand Marketing at a very intimate and high level.

You're constantly being campaigned by master marketers and your so caught up in spreading the lies these master story tellers have created you've completely forgotten how to think for yourselves.

I challenge you to not only turn off the political news outlets (TV, radio, print etc...) but stop watching TV all together and tell me if your perspective on the world and the way it is doesn't change dramatically.

If you refuse to WAKE UP... Please take some time off and shut up bc you none of you are any kind of high level official who has access to REAL facts or truths.

Just sayin...

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Thomas Ruwan 24 months ago from Cincinnati, Ohio

Here is Fun Fact#15

Fun Facts 1 thru 14 are only for the delusional.

He lied when he took the oath to protect and defend the Constitution. He trashed the Constitution with his record number of Executive Orders. Our elected officials don't even have to read a bill before passing it into law .. a law that the people said NO to. And he surrounds himself his liars, thieves, and cons like Hillary, Reed, and Pelosi.

Like the Bush boys, and the Clintons he has turned the Oval Office into a circus.

Fun Fact #16 .. Obama is a socialist.

kokorodudu 24 months ago

Most, if not all of the so called facts are refutable. Oil production is not up in America as a result of Obama's policy, his policy would actually have reduced Oil production. The reason for the Oil "boom" is a combination of innovations(Hydraulic Fracturing, Horizontal drilling and private/state land owners). To project the boom as Obama's accomplishment is nothing but a lie, that's why he couldn't present any factual data directly connecting the boom with Obama's policy.

pele0223 24 months ago

Ruth Gluhareff Pianalto , are you serious? No one is trying to get Obama out of the White House because he is black. If these people do exist within the electorate, they probably cannot read the ballot card due to living in the woods and being uneducated. Times have changed. Pulling that race card no longer justifies excuses for his performance.

Jeff61B, when you said,"Please, in every measurable way Obama is far and away a better president than GW Bush" I almost fell out of my chair. This just goes to show your persistence in supporting Obama is so far out of touch that you do not mind the least bit about being irrational. I really do commend you on the article and pointing out ways to show your side of the story backed with numerous articles. It was very creative.

However, you should note that not all government statistics are the "real statistics". They do not hesitate to fudge the numbers. Take the unemployment rate and GDP for example. Those measurements are one of the most reliable stats we look to for analyzing the productive capacities of a country. There does exist a caveat, and let me tell you, IT'S A BIG ONE. The methodologies for calculating these numbers have been changed by the Obama administration to present a more favorable view of the economy and to conceal the actual state of what is going on. Look at how these calculations are done. You'll be horrified at how favorable and unrealistic these recent additions in these calculations are towards government and the overall picture of our nation. Don't be so naive. Obama is the largest government spender in the history of the world, and he's borrowing most of it. We are now the largest DEBTOR NATION in the HISTORY OF THE WORLD. THIS IS A CLEAR, CONCISE OBSERVATION THAT ARE ECONOMY IS HORRIBLE AND IS NOT IMPROVING. The more debt we accumulate and more bonds we issue to our central bank (due to not having enough demand from other countries and private investors. After all, they are a LENDER OF LAST RESORT), the worse off our economy is.

Government gets money in one of two ways. They tax or they issue bonds. When there is not enough taxes being collected and bonds being issued, there is a problem. When we cannot issue anymore bonds or tax enough of our citizens to keep up with our current desires and consumption, there is A HUGE PROBLEM. Currently, we are in the largest bond bubble the world has ever seen. I'd rather have real economic growth rather than phony growth from debt to produce the "facts" mentioned in your article. The only reason these facts exist is because are making the citizens of the country poorer in the process via spending borrowed money. So don't paint the picture so rosy. It's not as good as you think.

Additionally, why do you still feel the need to bring up old politicians, whether they be Democrat or Republican? Who cares if the previous President was horrible? He is out of office. It is not his responsibility now. Leaders do not make excuses for their circumstances. They accept them and turn dire circumstances into better ones. If the former President was bad, people vote for the current to fix the problems, not complain about how difficult it is to fix them because of previous policies. So please, enough with the comparisons and excuses for his lackluster performance.

KilaWatts 24 months ago

I just read this article and every posted comment. I'm not a conservative or a liberal and I refuse to associate my name with any political party. I align myself with what is right and true. Not only in politics, but in all facets of life. Do the right thing, always, regardless of the consequences, and hold dear the only thing you have that's truly and utterly yours; you're integrity.

As I read through the mostly biased article and comments, I was formulating a response that I felt needed to be said, concerning the economy in particular. However, toward the end at this point, someone did it for me. [pele0223] Well done sir.

Spouting off numbers without truly understanding where they come from or how exactly they were achieved, and (in the case of economics) using them to prove a short term, biased point, without understanding the real, long term results is meaningless. And has already been mentioned by a few of you, and proven to us by both sides, it is relatively easy to manipulate them in your favor.

I don't have the time, nor feel the need to explain this further, but everything Obama has done has indeed set the course to, I believe, an irreversible and complete economic collapse of our country. Everything that has been pointed out as being "good" or "positive" has either been a quick, short term fix, or purposeful manipulation in one form or another, to make it look good NOW. You have to look at ALL of it, together and see what it is really doing to the economy as a whole. And all the good results are on paper only folks! Overall, our economy is nowhere near being better off and I don't care what numbers you throw at me because the right way to look at it is what [pele0223] explained in his comments. And it is all going to come back and haunt us in the very near future.

I could write all day on the various topics brought up here, explain why they are right or wrong, how it affects the economy and/or is detrimental to our country and way of life, etc., but let's not beat a dead horse. Instead, I will give you a few of my own personal examples of them and how they affected me, since Obama has been in office.

FYI, I am a retired Naval Officer, was a fighter pilot flying off of aircraft carriers, served our country for over 21 years and in two wars, paid my own way through college working 2 jobs, have never borrowed a dime from anyone (except a bank for a mortgage on my house, and a car loan many years ago), and have been a corporate chief pilot since I retired from the Navy in 2002, until very recently. I believe that the Constitution of the United States of America is the most important document ever written by man. I have read the Bible twice and the Koran once. I am an atheist.

1. In 2008 my salary was reduced by 20% because of the economy as the company tried not to lay people off. Less than a year later, in 2009, I was laid off anyway.

2. My house at the time lost 53% of its value as did our rental home that my ex-wife stupidly bought in the same area. Got divorced that same year, in CA no less, she got the house (which was worth just about what was owed on it at that point) and stuck me with the shitty, occupied with non-paying tenants, rental home which was now worth over $200,000 LESS that we (I now) still owed on it. I was unemployed, looking for a job, and wrote hundreds of letters, applied to every state and government program (2 were Obama's initiatives), asked for any kind of help from them and the bank, of which I got NONE. Summarily, the bank soon took it from me. (Side note: I started dating a girl and the exact same thing happened to her at the same time. Lost her job, going through a divorce, tried to do the right thing in every way to save her home where she still lived, and the bank took it too and literally kicked her out on the street.) Obama did nothing to help me and I believe the whole thing was a scam. And because of that, after 30 years of adulthood, never once missing a payment on anything and having a credit score of over 800, I was on penalty and could not apply to or get a mortgage for another 3 years minimum. Imagine what happened to my credit score.

3. I struggled greatly over the next year and the only thing that really saved me was my retirement money from the Navy. Then I got a great job offer in 2010 and moved out of CA to NV where I again was the chief pilot for a company out there. Rented a house, moved the girl I had been dating in with me, got married in Dec, 2011, bought a house in March, 2012, and got laid off again in June, 2012. 6 months newly married, and just bought a house 3 months prior and because of the failing economy, I lost yet another job, am again unemployed with a mortgage payment and a new family to take care of.

4. I earnestly start looking for another job, as a pilot, at the age of 49. But as a result of 9/11, pilot's unions, corrupt insurance companies, failing and bankrupt airlines, skyrocketing insurance premiums, ridiculous insurance demanded qualifications to hire a pilot they will insure (that are far more restrictive than the FAA's own requirements), me being over qualified and 49, and the economy, it was almost impossible to find a job in the USA at the time, nor could I sell the house I just bought because I was already upside down in it!

A. During this period, Obama got his healthcare bill passed. I will never understand how our government and misguided citizens ever let that happen. (And as mentioned above a few times, that bill is a big part of our real, long term economy as well and will be an integral part of our inevitable downfall) I read the entire thing and it's the worst, most disrespectful, unbelievable, ridiculous thing I have ever read in my life. Our own government is exempt from the damn thing along with unions, special interest groups, illegal citizens and as you all know, it's the people who work hard who end up paying for it. And Obama stood there on national TV and said if you had insurance, it wouldn't be taken away, nothing would change and your premiums wouldn't change as a result of this traitorous healthcare bill. 3 months later, I got a notice in the mail that my current health plan was being taken away from me and I was being forced into another one. And my yearly costs instantly QUADRUPLED, based on normal, average, seeing the doctor for various things throughout the year. Four times more and that didn't include if either of us had to stay in the hospital or have surgery either. Obama flat out lied to us and that's a fact.

B. A month after that, I finally got a job offer.......a 6 month contract to train Indonesian pilots in Jakarta, Indonesia. Which I really had no choice but to take.

5. I left in November, 2012. Long story short, 2 more contracts as they needed me, and then they asked me to stay on as a regular, permanent employee, I am still in Indonesia. Almost 2 years now, away from my new home, my family, dogs, friends, steaks, TV, etc. But the ONLY reason why is because I cannot find a job back in the USA! I have applied to 48 jobs now and am on many pilot job internet sites, some of which I pay for every month. I meet or exceed every requirement for the jobs and I haven't even heard from ONE job I have applied for. Nothing. And not one of them was anywhere near where I live in NV. I would have to move somewhere else and leave my wife at home or rent our house out if possible.

All those are a direct result of what Obama has done. My healthcare costs 4 times more, I lost two good jobs that I earned through very hard work and determination, make a lot less money now, and am forced to work outside of my country, half way around the world, in SE Asia, and be away from all my friends and family, until someone there will hire me. At 52 years of age.

I am grateful that I am employed and still doing a job that I love to do. I am an optimist and I make the most of any situation, as I am doing right now. But those were some hard, very stressful, embarrassing times brought upon me because of our president (some from past too). I am far worse off monetarily too

Scott Brundage 24 months ago

SO much here. Just read for over an hour and still didn't "grok" 9comprehend and assimilate) it all. BUT....

Please, PLEASE read,,, The view of these comments from a very WIDE lens sees a glaring danger... Even INTERESTED, SELF "INFORMED" PEOPLE WITH EDUCATIONS... are communicating with very sharp blades of personal anger and attack. And in nearly all cases, the "attackanger" once begun, brings responses of equal or greater force.

Liberal and conservative contribute, ONCE BEGUN.

"Anger expressed, destroys 75% of the value of all else that you say."

That quote is from my father,,, a Musician, Actor, Poet,,, who earned his money as a prize fighter, steel worker, logger and finally salesman of broadcast advertising.

A suggestion. Read or listen to the books, "John Adams" by McCullough and "The Summer of 1787" the authors name escapes me.

What you will find?

THE HUGE GAPS BETWEEN "Liberal" and "Conservative" HAVE


Even before in 1776, terms differed but ideologic stances were the SAME as now. What WAS different?

Each side gave up on "defeating" the other. Each side looked for ways to preserve the best of their own thinking while ALLOWING THE OTHER SIDE TO PRESERVE THE BEST OF Their THINKING ALSO.

So seekers of a presidency of three or more individuals gave in to one but that one person presidency got fewer powers. Those who wanted house and senate allocated by population got only the House #s allocated that way. The Senate was by state, so small states have more power in Senate. (If seven or eight states have most of our population the smaller state with sparce, more rural people have more Senate power. In the House, the fewer states but with more people have it.)

The art was called "COMPROMISE." For nearly two centuries it was given at least lip service as a great concept. Now? We want our kids to "be their best" and yet we fight like hell to educate them to "be better than anybody." Difference? Thats the problem. Too many of us don't know. OR don't think its really important.

ann 24 months ago

As you can tell I cant afford a computer or internet and am trying to use a small phone to voice my concerns. I am afraid I lie awake wondering how close am i from loosing my home. I worked 2 & 3 jobs to send my son to college. My income tax is garnished to pay owed medical bills, I desperately need some new glasses and dental work but I cant afford it. So my point is make you rants and point your fingers, but until WE START WORKING TOGETHER AS A UNITED COUNTRY you are litterly killing the people who are truly struggling to make it from 1 day to the next. USE THIS opportunity to pull all this energy to complain and point prove into something positive for all of us. I am an educated 53 yr old white female and even with my illinesses I am going to work daily hoping one day I will be debt freeand truly able to enjoys the magistic beauty of this country 1 state at a time. A gift of our thinking leaders of years ago, our nation parks and historic sites.

Ann 24 months ago

I am truly sick of the finger pointing name calling butt kissing and overall disrespect for American Citizens by my fellow Americans and I am truly more dissapointed in our govt leaders across the board from DC to local government. Our forefathers would be devisated overour Country today. NO PREDIDENT could ever accomplish any positive objectives with such a self centered

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jeff61b 24 months ago Author


I admire your perseverance in making it through the tough times. You should be proud.

Did you have a point about the artcle?

Ann 24 months ago

From a simple a simple hard working AMERICAN who just went thru 6 months of unemployment, receiving NO unemployment benefits because of direct lies and misleading comments without proof by former employer. An international award winning natural resources education professional who made $30k a year working 16 hour days, late nights, brought work home and worked most weekends as well as holidays, I no longer have any ty,pe of saving account, reserve funds, or cash of any nature. I live in an 80k home and drive a 2003 car. I was on OBAMA Health Care while unemployed. I finally havea job making $30k again, with an hour and a half commute to work daily. I have lived thru hell and back several times many times facing unbelievible circumstances

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jeff61b 24 months ago Author

Tye Page -

Please, in every measurable way Obama is far and away a better president than GW Bush. But your comments along with your "Muslim" remark, indicate that you don't care about facts and you're driven by your personal hatred of President Obama inspired by your prejudice.

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