Are Men Better Drivers or Are Women Better Drivers?

What Inspired This Research?

Often I get ideas for researching and writing about subjects from conversations I participate in or overhear. That was the case for this topic. Recently there was some discussion in comments on a hub whereby a man arrogantly stated that "everyone knows men are the best drivers, because of their superior spatial ability, which scientists have proven."

I decided to accept the challenge. Are men really better drivers than women? From my personal experience as a professional driver having observed drivers of both sexes and all ages for many hours every day, I said no they are not. I see terrible drivers of both sexes every day.

Then I was set straight by this man who informed me that men are unquestionably better drivers. I decided to see what, if anything, scientific studies and statistics gathered from traffic violation and accident reports around the United States (not the world) had to say about the subject of men versus women drivers.

Because this man who is adamant in his belief that male drivers in Great Britain (if not around the world) are superior, I included a small report on drivers in Great Britain as well. Here are my findings.

Did You Know?

Do you know that women were not yet allowed to vote when the first Model-T rolled off Henry Ford’s assembly line in 1908? Women received the right to vote 12 years later, in 1920. Women were driving before they could vote!

Driving was not considered ladylike at the time (1908), but there were a few women who valued practicality more than social rules, and so, drive they did!

Did a Man Do This?

This is one time you might prefer to be on top.
This is one time you might prefer to be on top. | Source

Did Men Do These?

Why did they put this car in the attic in the first place?
Why did they put this car in the attic in the first place? | Source
Is this one of the new electric cars?
Is this one of the new electric cars? | Source
Sure hope everyone got out of this OK.
Sure hope everyone got out of this OK. | Source
Tried to jump the fence . . .
Tried to jump the fence . . . | Source

First the Issue of Spatial Intelligence

Men are of course the better drivers! (Shush, do not tell, but later in this article I will prove this is a fallacy.) Driving requires spatial skills and men are better at spatial skills; or so I have been told. Yes, science has said men are generally better at spatial skills, but I think, like so many things, a lot depends on the person and how many opportunities they have had to develop and use certain skills.

It turns out that studies have already been done that prove my perspective is not only accurate, but that living in a discriminatory culture also plays a big part in how well women perform at spatial skills tests and tasks.

Live Science reports that women in “patriarchal societies” do worse on spatial skills tests than women who live in matriarchal societies where women are equal or considered socially superior. The study concluded that discrimination and stereotyping are the reason most women score lower on spatial ability tests than men. When women in matriarchal societies were tested they did equally well as men on spatial ability tests.

Some men (the ones who from my PSYC background no doubt feel insecure in themselves) would like to establish that the reason women do not score as well on special ability tests as men do is because women are women -- and that is simply circular thinking. Hey, I thought men were supposed to be the more logical sex? There is no logic whatever in circular thinking. That is like saying men are superior because men say they are.

It turns out that how women think of themselves and how much confidence they have in themselves is just as important in determining their abilities as education.

It would seem to come down to what Henry Ford once said, “If you think you can, or you think you can’t, either way you are probably right.”

Women are indoctrinated in many societies to believe that men are superior and women are often ridiculed even for trying to accomplish what are considered male skills in these backward thinking societies. Needless to say, people (especially men) who migrate from these societies to more enlightened places have a difficult time getting used to progressive ideas and attitudes.

I can say from personal experience that there has not yet been what is characterized as a post-feminist era. Minoring in women’s studies, I learned about what I call a fairytale post-feminism. Despite all the hoopla about post-feminism, that era has so far never existed.

In fact, women are still discriminated against in this country so badly it is unbelievable. Women are far from having achieved equality in these United States, and so there is no validity to the existence of a post-feminist era.

It is far worse in many other countries around the world, and men who come from some of the countries where women are looked upon as inferior tend to bring their intolerant sexist ideas with them when they come to a more enlightened culture. Sexism prevents women from excelling at their natural talents and from being all they can be. The recent studies reported on by Live Science prove that.

Did Men Do These?

That's one way to divide things up after a divorce!  Hope no one got hurt.
That's one way to divide things up after a divorce! Hope no one got hurt. | Source
Didn't they have a jack in the car?  Seems like that would work better.
Didn't they have a jack in the car? Seems like that would work better. | Source
This doesn't look good.  Hope everybody got out OK.
This doesn't look good. Hope everybody got out OK. | Source
Somebody must have been texting while flying.
Somebody must have been texting while flying. | Source

What Is the Advantage In Believing or Pretending to Believe That Women Are Lesser Beings?

When something is a general rule it means it applies to the majority of a particular group, but does not apply to every single individual. In other words, even though the majority of men (51% or more) score higher on spatial skills tests than the majority of women (again 51% or more), a lot of men (49%) may not be good at spatial skills and a lot of women (up to 49%) probably are. Especially if no one has told the women who are to be tested that they cannot be good at spatial tasks because women are not good at them (more circular reasoning).

Very often women are programmed to fail. Why? It would seem that some men cannot feel manly unless they believe themselves to be somehow superior to certain other people, particularly women. My psychology training tells me that these men are in reality insecure about who they are and what their true worth is. They tend to be overbearing, arrogant, and of course they are always right. Sometimes they are physically or verbally abusive. Thankfully most American men are more advanced.

Having been tested and scored high (surprising my testers because I am a woman) on spatial skills tests that were a part of my IQ tests, I do not find spatial tasks particularly challenging. It is my humble opinion that we are all gifted in certain areas regardless of whether we are male or female, and that overall we tend to balance each other out, or compliment each other with our various skills and talents.

In other words some men may be better (than women) at spatial skills and some men may be average or below average. Some women may not perform spatial skills as well as most men, but some may be average or well above average in their performance in this area, far exceeding the ability of many men. All people have a variety of skills and talents that may be similar or not, but all are useful and valuable. It is always a good thing to evaluate people as individuals rather than assuming they are all alike in any particular group.

What Are Some Examples of Spatial Skills?

Spatial skills in one example presented by a report from Johns Hopkins University, involved the ability to read a map and transfer what is seen there to the real world. I am, and have always been, extremely good at that. I taught my daughter to be good at it too. Obviously I am one woman who is above average in map reading skills. Any other women out there like me? I bet there are.

Another thing spatial skills are good for is packing suitcases, or packing moving cartons (Johns Hopkins University). I have had a lot, and I mean a lot of practice at both of those tasks. The challenge here is to determine if the suitcase or box is big enough for the objects(s) you want to put in them and if you can determine the best way to make everything fit.

Merging into heavy traffic, using mirror images, determining size or speed of objects are all spatial skills (Johns Hopkins University). Indeed, one could even say that walking requires spatial skills. After all, one must determine size, space available, speed, and distance even when walking in order to avoid running into things.

About 5600 pedestrians are killed every year, so at least some of them are not very good at spatial skills – just a minor note; studies show that most pedestrians killed are men.

My Personal Experience As a Professional Driver

Let me just say that I have had several hours of experience driving a city bus and I hold a commercial driver’s license. When I drove it was for 11 hours a day with no breaks, 5 days a week for two years. My route was especially challenging and I chose it for that very reason. It was never boring.

When I was still driving a bus it was common for people to park in the bus stop space (that has not changed). That leaves no room for the bus to pull over and pick up or drop off passengers. Why do people do that? I think determining the answer to that question (why people illegally park in bus stop zones) is more difficult than most spatial tasks.

My solution was to pull up beside the vehicle illegally parked in my space, my bus door just far enough in front of that vehicle so that the bus door would open without making contact with the illegally parked vehicle.

I would be so close to that vehicle, perhaps 6 inches or so away from it, that any person sitting in the vehicle’s driver’s seat could open their window and touch the side of my bus with little effort. You could say I got so close that another inch or two and I would have had their paint on my bus.

Can you imagine sitting in your car with a city bus just an inch or so further from your vehicle than your side view mirror sticks out? My open bus door blocked their vehicle from escape via the front.

The illegally parked vehicle was stuck where it was until I decided to move. The occupant(s) of the vehicle was usually visibly shaken, thinking what a close call s/he had survived, believing at first that it was an accident that I had gotten so close to his/her vehicle. The driver of the illegally parked vehicle was usually too horrified to even think about trying to back out of the situation, which would have been extremely challenging given how close together our two vehicles were. (Mine extended a good 20 feet back.) This situation was the case regardless of whether the driver of the illegally parked vehicle was male or female.

After the relief of not being hit by a bus settled into their minds and they saw that I was not at all upset, other thoughts seem to surface in their minds. Their initial belief – that it was an accident that I had gotten that close, started slipping away.

Once they realized it was not an accident and that I had purposely scared the living you know what out of them, the expressions on their faces usually changed. I loved watching the thought process cross their faces in my big bus-size side mirror. Once they seemed to have the correct inventory of the situation I would close my door and move on just before they could give me the one finger salute. Wicked yes? Do not mess with redheads.

Ah, but they were illegally parked, and when a person is illegally parked in every state I have ever lived in, that person is automatically at fault for any accident that involves their vehicle. Yes, I know, I have an evil gene in my body that sometimes takes precedence.

To purposely accomplish getting that close to anything with any vehicle without coming into contact with it, one must know where their vehicle is. By that I mean knowing exactly how much space one’s vehicle takes up and precisely where that space is. That is spatial intelligence.

I did that same maneuver successfully dozens of times. Yes, and many other difficult maneuvers too, but the others were not by choice, but by necessity. No, I never once got so close at a bus stop that my bus came in contact with any other vehicle, or any part of another vehicle. The trick to getting that close to another object, as previously stated, is knowing exactly where your vehicle is.

Anyone reading this who makes a habit of parking in bus stop zones should think about this before parking there again. ;)

You are probably wondering why I bored you with that story. Well, if one is going to make use of quotes one must make sure they have tons of written material that is original so as not to be unpublished for duplication.

In fact spatial skills are important to driving and my recollection about driving a bus directly relates to spatial intelligence and explains one way that spatial intelligence applies to driving.

Another advantage to telling on myself is that now I have more than a thousand words to offset the statistics and research information I am about to provide from many different sources that will prove that in fact . . .

Men Are NOT the Better Drivers

Insurance Companies will do anything to raise your premiums. They will use any excuse, but as it turns out, men provide the excuse (and the proof) for making their own car insurance premiums higher.

Car Insurance states: “Official statistics from the TrafficSTATS 2007 study show that men are more likely to get involved in fatal car accidents than women by 77%. The study included information from FARS (Fatality Analysis Reporting System) and the National Household Travel Survey, estimating deaths per 100 million trips. The numbers were 14.61 for men and 6.53 for women (less than half), while the total number of deaths due to traffic accidents during a 6 year period between 1999 and 2005 was 175,094 men and 82,371 women.”

Women have fewer than half as many fatal accidents as men!

If men are such great drivers, why are they killing themselves like crazy with cars? Statistics show that young men are the worst of all drivers, but even when they get older their stats are not good. Keep in mind that we are talking generalities here and that there may be the occasional good male driver out there.

Miranda Hitti, writing for WebMD, reports that Amarylis Fox, a British researcher, believes that the main female hormone, estrogen, may be the reason women are generally better drivers than men. Fox said her study showed that estrogens may positively influence mental flexibility and neuronal activity in the frontal lobes (decision making and judgment), and that may be the reason women are better at paying attention while driving and abiding by traffic laws.

James Shaffer, CEO for, writes that released a report (May 2012) showing that “traffic violations for men are higher in every category. Be it reckless driving, failure to yield, seat belt violations, or speeding, men are always cited at a much higher ratio. When it comes to the more serious violations of driving under the influence and driving while intoxicated, male drivers still out number females [for violations] at a 3.08 to 1 ratio, “ (UPI).

Further, Shaffer writes, “In the study, points out that some 80 percent of all fatal and serious car crashes are caused by male drivers,” (UPI). Wow! 80%!! That is a lot.

Shaffer states unequivocally, “. . . if you look at the statistics, females are better drivers . . . by a long shot! It's almost scary how bad the average man is at driving. Blame it on whatever you want – high testosterone, higher propensity to take risks, or higher levels of aggression, but the fact remains – men simply make too many mistakes behind the wheel,” (UPI – United Press International).

More Women Than Men Hold a Driver's License In the U.S.

As reported in USA Today, NBC News, and Huffington Post, A study by the University of Michigan's Transportation Research Institute looked at gender trends in driver's licenses between 1995 and 2010 and among other things in its report is the fact that more women than men hold a driver’s license in the U.S. They also say the gap between the number of men and women holding a license to operate a motor vehicle continues to widen. In other words, every year more women than men seek and receive a driver’s license.

The study further reports that currently women drive as many miles as men, and that gap also continues to widen as women do more of the driving.

USA Today, NBC News, and Huffington Post all Report the following:

"The changing gender demographics will have major implications on the extent and nature of vehicle demand, energy consumption, and road safety," predicted Michael Sivak, co-author of the study. Women are more likely than men to purchase smaller, safer and more fuel-efficient cars; to drive less, and to have a lower fatality rate per distance driven, he said.

More Bad Stats for Men

The Department of Transportation in New York City did a study and determined that 80% of all accidents that seriously injured or killed pedestrians were attributable to male drivers. Part of the trouble is that many men seem to think that they “own and control the road,” (New York Times).

Social scientists blame men’s horrible driving records on their predisposition for aggression and risk taking. It is a fact that men take more risks, and that taking risks plays a bigger part than driving skill, in most accidents. Indeed, the study showed that men are not only dangerous drivers overall, but that they even take more risks as pedestrians! More men were killed in pedestrian accidents, regardless of age, than women, according to the results of the New York City Transportation Department study.

For some reason men seem to believe that aggression while driving is a good thing. When interviewed by Juliet Linderman for the New York Times, 24-year old Mark Volinsky said, “On the road, I think the most important things are intuition and aggressiveness . . .” Like so many men, he suggested that women were not up to the “dog-eat-dog” driving environment despite the fact that women have fewer violations, fewer accidents, and fewer fatalities when driving – even in New York City!

Also interviewed by Ms. Linderman, Rose Pinto, a driving instructor, said, “Men are overconfident, and it is their downfall. Even if a guy doesn’t know what he’s doing, he’s more inclined to say he does, (New York Times/Region).

What do you think?

Have you changed your mind about who is the better driver, men or women?

  • No, what do statistics prove? Whatever you want them to.
  • Yes, and I was very surprised to learn just how badly men drive!
  • No, just because men have more traffic violations and fatal accidents doesn't mean men aren't the best drivers.
  • Yes, and now I have new respect for women, especially as drivers.
  • No, I haven't changed my mind. I've always known women were better drivers.
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Yes! There Is More! reports a British study determined that women are better at parallel parking than men are. The study involved secretly videotaping in 700 parking lots and observing/recording 2500 different drivers, half women, half men.

The videotapes showed that women were more likely to locate vacant parking spaces quicker, they followed driving instructors recommendations for maneuvering into the parking spaces far more often and more accurately, and positioned their vehicles in the parking spaces better – in other words the vehicles were centered in the parking spaces.

Since spatial awareness and ability are necessary in parallel parking a vehicle, Neil Beeson, a driving instructor who designed the study said, “The results also appear to dispel the myth that men have better spatial awareness than women.”

Can you believe a man said that? And out loud too! He knew when he said it that he was talking to a reporter. Bet the men in his neighborhood hate him. ;)

The BBC reports that “men rush when parking and end up wasting time and gas driving past available parking spaces and, once they do find one, are more apt to park sloppily.”

For My British Readers

With the exception of a study on parking that was done in the UK that I referenced near the end of this article that related mainly to spatial skills, all the statistics in this article and the conclusions made as a result of those statistics relate entirely to drivers in the United States.

However some of my readers want to relate the provided statistics to their own countries outside of the U.S. for some reason. I am not sure why. I would never attempt to relate statistics from Singapore, or South Africa, or anywhere outside the U.S. to people living here. It would make no sense at all. Other cultures and people are different and very few people live in anything close to the culture we have here in the U.S. I am not saying our culture is better or worse than any other country’s culture, only that it is different.

When you compare drivers in India or Japan or Indonesia, or any other country, to drivers in the U.S., you are comparing peaches and avocados. I love them both, but they are nothing alike.

United Kingdom Statistics

There are a couple of my readers who live in the United Kingdom, and they just cannot wrap their minds around the fact that the statistics herein are entirely relatable to the U.S. only, and not to the U.K.

So I thought I would do some quick research and see what sort of statistics I might find on the subject of driving in the United Kingdom, just so these readers of mine might perhaps be more at peace.

Some of the statistics I found were a bit older than I would prefer, but clearly the U.K. does not make a habit of collecting information as frequently and using it to determine their actions in regard to insurance premiums and the like, as much as companies in the U.S.

Keep in mind that England has an area about the size of the state of Wyoming with just under 63 million people somehow all fitting in there.

The statistics I found were from JMW Solicitors LLP who apparently handle many of the auto insurance claims in the U.K., and was citing what they described as a recent study done by Carrentals UK. It was posted on November 8, 2012.

Given that at least one of my readers of this article (from the U.K.) is very near stroking out, popping a blood vessel, and maybe even having a heart attack over the statistics relating to male drivers in the U.S., what I found is probably going to push him over the edge. The man is already beside himself after hearing that women are better drivers than men because in his mind women are not better than men at anything.

You see, the findings in studies done in the U.K. regarding who is the safer driver, men or women, is very similar to the statistics in the U.S., though some of them are a bit older. My references for this information can be found in the reference section.

Down To the Nitty Gritty

Scott Burgess (a man) writing for says after examining a recent study by Carrentals UK, “Now there's proof that women are the superior drivers.”

Burgess further quotes Gareth Robinson (also a man), Managing Director of Carrentals UK as saying, "While men would like to believe they are better than women behind the steering wheel, it is clear to see that male drivers performed worse in terms of speeding fines and penalty points.”

Robinson further stated, “It seems that while men performed poorly on the questionnaire and typically had a worse track record on the roads, they [still] believed that they were good drivers.”

Now that we know more men are cited for moving violations while driving a motor vehicle in the U.K. than women are, what about car crashes?

Well, one study says when women have accidents in the U.K. they are more likely to be fender benders where no one gets hurt. When men in the U.K. pile it up, it is usually because of high speed, and it is more often a serious crash, such as a multi-car accident or a head on collision. Male drivers have more expensive insurance claims than female drivers.

Now the most recent available statistics on car accidents in the U.K.

While women in the U.K. are often branded as bad drivers, statistically women are involved in fewer car accidents than men. In 1995 women drivers were involved in 1.8 million car accidents per million miles driven compared to men drivers who were involved in 2.9 million car accidents per million miles driven.

The reason given for men having more accidents than women is the same in the U.K. as it is in the U.S. It is thought that testosterone encourages male drivers to drive more aggressively and competitively, as well as to take more risks, thus, causing more accidents and most of those accidents are of a very serious nature.

This is backed up by statistics published by Phillips 2007 Atlases stating that men account for 80% of speeding fines in the UK. Research by road safety charity Brake lists the more reckless driving habits carried out by men:

  • 44% of men have used a mobile phone while driving compared to just 30% of women.
  • 20% of men have fallen asleep at the wheel compared to just 6% of women.
  • 22% of men revealed they would drive at 7am following a heavy night of drinking compared to just 11% of women.

In addition, 93% of convicted drunk drivers in 2003 were male. Men are also three times as likely as women to be involved in a fatal car accident and they are more likely to kill pedestrians while operating a motor vehicle.

So much for trying to ease my British reader’s pain at discovering men are the worse drivers. These are the most recent statistics I could find and I spent more than an hour trying to find newer ones, although the statistical findings of the Carrentals UK study were recent -- from 2012. Not only were statistics for drivers in the U.K. hard to find, there were not many of them either. Let us hope that male British drivers have improved over the last few years.

One thing that has changed is that more women in the U.K. are getting driver’s licenses and fewer men are getting them. That is also comparable to the U.S. with the exception that here there are already more women than men with driver’s licenses and women are driving about the same amount of miles here as men do. In the U.K. overall men still hold about 10% more driver’s licenses than women, and still drive about twice as many miles as women.

This Could Happen to YOU!

The caption makes clear a man was driving this little red car, however, we all know women are guilty of texting while driving, too.  I think this photo speaks for itself, no lecture necessary.  What a way to go!
The caption makes clear a man was driving this little red car, however, we all know women are guilty of texting while driving, too. I think this photo speaks for itself, no lecture necessary. What a way to go! | Source


So there you have it. Women may not do as well on spatial skills tests (although women in matriarchal cultures do just as well), but they certainly do better putting their spatial awareness skills into practice when it comes to driving.

Several studies and several different driving experts, not to mention insurance statistics, make it clear that women are safer drivers and that equals better drivers. Women cost insurance companies less money in settlements and claims – and more importantly, women drivers and their passengers live longer!

While there were a few studies that seemed to indicate other results, the evidence that women are in fact better drivers was overwhelming.

Women may want to think twice before allowing a man behind the wheel of any vehicle they are planning to travel in. Clearly the male predisposition for taking risks and driving aggressively makes irrelevant and useless any high score on a spatial skills test.

20% or so of men are supposed to be the exception, so women, if you are planning a trip, look for one of the limited edition male drivers to drive you if you cannot drive yourself.


Live Science: Culture, not gender is the reason men tend to do better on Spatial skills tests

Psychology Today – Women with Confidence Do Better On Spatial Skills

Huffington Post: Women Better At Parking

Time Magazine: Women Better At Parking

United Press International (UPI)

NY Times and Stereotypes About Women

PRNewswire: Women Better Drivers

The Examiner: Study Shows Women Better Drivers

The Wisegeek on Spatial Intelligence

John Hopkins University on Spacial Tasks

WebMD on Women Drivers

USA Today on which sex holds more driver’s licenses, which sex drivers more miles and which sex drives safer

NBC News on which sex holds more driver’s licenses

Huffington Post on which sex holds more driver’s licenses in the U.S.

Carrentals UK Study Report

Claims Solicitors Statistics

© 2013 C E Clark

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ValKaras 8 weeks ago from Canada

Excellent hub with a lot of convincing statistics. Being an individualist I am not prone to generalizing, and if asked that question I would probably answer by asking; "WHICH man? WHICH woman?" Personally, I have terrible spatial skills - as for a man. When I park, I may be up to a yard away from the front or back object at the moment when I stop. I simply have no feeling how much space I have available. My wife is a true wizard at packing all that mountain of stuff into our suitcases before our trips. She doesn't drive at all, but there are some obvious indications that she could be easily confused or even panicky in some complex and testing traffic situations - despite usually being a relatively calm person. Each in our own ways - we both suck as drivers, except that my driving record is clean of any offences, that including parking tickets. So we could say that I am after all a "good driver", if defensiveness counts. Cool, collected, patient, and yet I would never go as far as saying that "man are better at driving", first because I don't have all the statistic information (even if my individualism would care to prove it one way or another); and second, I am not inclined one bit to compete with women. I love them, I don't feel threatened by them, or would I have a need to prove myself to them by comparing our abilities. Except for those secondary gender differences - I see us as equal. But viva the difference!!!

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Au fait 10 months ago from North Texas Author

Reviewsbypat, thank you for reading and commenting on this article! If you read every word then you know that statistics and insurance companies agree that women are the best drivers because they are the safest drivers with the fewest citations and accidents as a group. ;)

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Reviewsbypat 10 months ago from Belfast, Ireland

Wow, these images of crashes are shocking. The who hub is so well put together. The article is amazing, I only intended to glance over it and ended reading it all. This is of course another opportunity for men and women to verbally spar over what is a red hot topic, whose skill on the road surpasses the other? But the answer of course is an obvious one. The best driver is neither male nor female, but rather the one who keeps their attention on the Take it easy folks, I hope you all have a relaxing weekend. Thanks to C. E. Clark for posting!

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Au fait 12 months ago from North Texas Author

Sharon, thank you for stopping by and sharing your experiences. I have found that both men and women mess up, and sometimes pretty badly, but the stats, which are not antidotal or biased in any way, show that men are more inclined to take risks and to drive competitively and those characteristics often cause serious if not fatal accidents.

I'm glad you were able to get the security tape because that no doubt saved you a lot of money on insurance premiums.

Blessings and hugs to you also . . .

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Au fait 12 months ago from North Texas Author

SweetiePie, I live in an urban area. The Dallas/Fort Worth/Arlington (DFW) area is the 4th largest metropolitan area in the U.S., (nearly 7 million people).

I'm not saying it never happens to anyone, but I have never been yelled at in an intentionally rude way while walking down the street or crossing the street. Neither was I when I lived in Milwaukee, which is just over a million and a half population for that metro area.

I also lived in the Boston metro area for 3 years. No problems there either. I really think it is a reflection of the particular area. People do vary from one place to another as I noted having lived in 5 different states.

Or perhaps there's something about you that grabs their attention. Maybe they just hate bicyclists. Some people do because they hold up traffic. Anytime you hold traffic up, whether walking, biking, texting, etc., you will get lots of single digit waves and people yelling at you. Not saying that's OK, but it is pretty universal.

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SweetiePie 12 months ago from Southern California, USA

On the street harassment thing, it is pretty universal, actually, but it pertains more to urban areas. It might be more pervasive in urban areas because you just run into more people, but I have read accounts of women in Paris, New York, London, etc who had men say untoward comments thrown their way. I will say I did not encounter as much of this behavior in the Midwest, but it certainly does happen in areas where there is more of an urban atmosphere and less community based. Also, I think my odds are heightened for experiencing it because I am walking and biking every day of my life, which is cumulative more time outside on the street than a person in a car. That seems to be the common thread among people who are harassed in the streets verbally, they just have more time to be exposed to it. As I have got older I receive less harassment, but when I was younger it was worse. I have seen younger women walking alone targeted more often.

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Shyron E Shenko 12 months ago

Au fait, when we were out Saturday we saw a stupid stunt by a man (which I pointed out to hubby) that put our lives in danger.

But, the girl/woman Jessica who works at Texas Road House, puts women in a bad light when she hit us in the rear while we were waiting to turn onto the highway. What a surprise when I got a copy of the surveillance tape and turned it over to her insurance.

Blessings and Hugs, stay dry.

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Au fait 12 months ago from North Texas Author

SweetiePie, I don't doubt women get verbal abuse while biking and/or walking. The world seems to be getting meaner as time goes on. I've never gotten any and don't know of anyone whose mentioned it besides you, so I really think it might be the region of the country you're living in. The atmosphere and attitude of people really does vary as much if not more than the landscape when you travel around the country.

I've lived in 5 different states and I can tell you that as much as people have in common they also have differences. Sometimes those differences are attitudes and behavior towards other people.

I don't know how men would know for sue that they're paying more for their car insurance. Did they call around for estimates and pretend to be a woman on some of those calls? Generally insurance companies only quote your price, not what they would charge other people.

On average men make more money than women and as a result probably buy more new cars which generally have higher insurance premiums because of the payoff and repair expenses if it comes to that. Also, as the statistics show, men are responsible for 80% of all accidents. So their rates should be higher. But so often where you live and how much money you earn plays a bigger part in your insurance premiums than your driving record. All I can tell you for suer is that live isn't fair . . . :)

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SweetiePie 12 months ago from Southern California, USA

It may have been the case in general that young men sometimes pay the same as women, but I have actually read several articles talking about how men pay more than women for insurance over the course of their lifetime. Also, I had young men tell me as such, and I do not think they would be making this up. They were told they were charged more, but maybe it was because they got into accidents.

Also, I am a life long pedestrian and bicyclist, and young women do encounter a lot of verbal abuse when walking and biking. I experienced it first hand. There is also a site where women share experiences about such things. I guess I just had to add that extra info.

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Au fait 12 months ago from North Texas Author

SweetiePie, thank you for commenting on this issue. Yes, some young women are trying very hard to assert their equality by driving as foolishly as some young men do.

In the places I have lived (CA was one of them), both young men and young women were charged the same premiums for car insurance in the name of equality. That has been true for decades. There was a time long ago when girls were generally considered safer drivers and so their premiums were lower, but that was indeed long ago.

From my experience, auto insurance companies will use any excuse to raise the cost of their insurance. In fact I have read that most insurance companies do not even base insurance rates on driving records anymore. They are more likely to base it on the neighborhood you live in and the kind of car you have. In other words, if they think you can afford it, they'll stick it to ya.

There are without a doubt bad women drivers out there. I'm not saying there aren't. But statistics regarding citations and accidents gathered by police all across this country do not lie. They are not opinion, they are facts about things that have happened and who was at fault for them happening.

I have never had anyone yell at me when crossing the street anywhere I have lived. I do know that people differ a lot sometimes depending on where they live. People are highly prone to rudeness on the road in Minnesota for example. They are just as rude on the phone. That has been my experience.

I lived in Northern CA back in the late 80s. There was one situation where a man walked up to my car while I was at a red traffic light and put his foot up on the door of my car just below the window. I don't know why. I was waiting to see what he would do next since I could not move my car. Fortunately he was satisfied with the extent to which he had been asinine and felt no need to escalate the situation.

Try walking in a different city and a different region and hopefully people will be more considerate and courteous.

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SweetiePie 12 months ago from Southern California, USA

The research and the data has shown up until recently men tended to get in more accidents when they were younger than women. I know here in California men under 25 sometimes pay three times higher insurance rate premiums than women of the same age. This is not exactly a proven statistic, but I did read an article a couple of years ago that differences between the genders in driving is changing with the up and coming generation. Some driving school noted how girls in the past seemed more apt to follow the rules, and less likely to speed, but recently both boys and girls are doing the same. There are definitely cases where women have done some crazy things on the road. There was one young woman who wanted to kill herself and was having a texting fight with her boyfriend, and then drove head on into another woman and her son going the opposite direction. The woman and her son were killed on impact, and the young woman never apologized for causing this death. However, in general the statistics do still show that men tend to have more aggression on the road. I have had men flip me off and scream at me for not getting out of the cross walk fast enough while crossing the street. I have had been scream whore at me for simply walking. I am not saying all men are like this, but I usually do not have women driving by and screaming at me. A lot female pedestrians have told me the same things. Now I am not trying to stereotype anyone, but what I do think is how do some people get and maintain their licenses.

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Au fait 13 months ago from North Texas Author

Thank you Peggy W., for commenting and sharing this article! For some reason some men read this and feel like their manhood is being somehow threatened, maybe because they identify with the bad statistics? Who knows why, but they will refute the facts over and over and try to replace them with their own so-called facts arrived at through anecdotal evidence or their own imaginations.

Agree that it is a good thing when a family gathers around a dinner table and has at least one meal together most if not every day.

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Peggy W 13 months ago from Houston, Texas

I had to laugh at some of the latest comments. Hard to argue with statistics! Ha! Sharing once again in case this topic comes up at someone's dinner table...assuming they eat together in one place. I am glad that when I was growing up we typically ate dinner together each night and discussed what had transpired that day...or other topics of interest. Nice to have that kind of time regularly spent together as a family unit. This is off topic I realize...unless someone uses your article as the genesis of a talk about auto safety when it comes to driving. Could be done around a dinner table! :)

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Au fait 16 months ago from North Texas Author

"Being Honest," thank you for stopping by to let us know you had a bad experience. I'm sorry that happened, but one really does have to expect the possibility if one drives on public streets, don't you think? When I drove professionally 11 hours a day, 5 days a week, I had to deal with terrible drivers all day long. Thankfully they didn't get under my skin or I would have spent all day every day being angry.

If one knows they will be around some bad drivers, which is pretty much a given if you drive on public streets, then one should be prepared to drive defensively at all times and take it in stride.

I could tell you didn't read the article. All I can say is if you think women are horrible drivers, and I admit, some of them are, and some women are just bad drivers sometimes, not all the time -- but despite all of that, government records collected by police departments all across this country show that men cause more than 80% of all accidents and practically all of the worst ones.

Not to say there are no good male drivers out there, because there are some excellent male drivers, but sadly, most of them are not excellent. The best male drivers are rare.

So if you think women are terrible drivers, you should see how men drive! They're even worse according to statistics gathered by very credible dependable sources.

Come back and read the whole article when you have a couple of minutes. Thank you again for dropping in. :)

BeingHonest 16 months ago

Much women are the absolute Worst since many of them are the biggest speeders and tailgaters these days.

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Au fait 18 months ago from North Texas Author

Updated, with a new photo you won't want to miss!

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Au fait 21 months ago from North Texas Author

Shyron, thank you for voting on and sharing this article again, and for the blessings and hugs. Men can't seem to control their urge to take risks and compete and I see that everyday now that I'm on the road more again. They simply must be ahead of me no matter what speed I'm going which usually means they have to speed to pass me. Though I'm going the speed limit, I'm left in their dust. We meet again at the next traffic light and I am so impressed with their fantastic driving skills that got them to that light ahead of me! ;)

Blessings and hugs for you too.

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Shyron E Shenko 21 months ago

All men think they are superior drivers to any woman no matter what the statistics Prove. Even my wonderful hubby thinks he is a better driver then me. But I am not the one who hit the curb.

Voted up, UABI and shared.

Blessings and Hugs

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Au fait 21 months ago from North Texas Author

Thanks for stopping by peachpurple.

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peachpurple 22 months ago from Home Sweet Home

both men and women are addicted to texting while driving, accidents always happens

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Au fait 22 months ago from North Texas Author

Peggy W, thank you for returning and reading the comments, and for the share. Comments can be informative and they can be as interesting (or more so sometimes) than the article they appear on! ;)

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Peggy W 22 months ago from Houston, Texas

I am laughing at some of the comments you have gotten on this hub. Accurate statistics don't lie. Will share this hub again. There are probably others who will want to debate or put their two cents in the pot so to speak. Ha!

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Au fait 24 months ago from North Texas Author

David Allen Law, thank you for commenting on this article! Everyone should indeed drive safely and keep their mind on what they are doing. No texting or other distractions. One must drive defensively at all times and if one takes their driving seriously, hopefully no accidents will occur, especially those life changing kind.

Looking forward to reading some of your work. Happy holidays!

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No matter your gender everyone needs to remember to drive safely! When it comes to other people’s negligence make sure you have the right defense to seek reimbursement for any injuries.

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Au fait 2 years ago from North Texas Author

JayeWisdom, thank you for reading and commenting on this article and for sharing your thoughts and experience on this subject.

Yes, I stated that the reason psychologists believe women have better driving records is because most men are very competitive and seem to like taking risks.

There are good male drivers out there and I know several of them, but the stats that are made up from accident reports and citation records tell us that in general, men are not the best drivers.

I am only passionate when people make ridiculous statements such as "Being a careful driver doesn't mean being a good driver." Excuse me? Is that suggesting that unsafe drivers are good drivers? Believe me, lots of crazy things have been put in this comments section.

The information in this article is based entirely on hard records, not on what somebody thinks or feels. Not on somebody's opinion. It is based on how many men and how many women received citations for breaking traffic laws and what law they broke. It is based on accident records filled out at the scene by cops who are still mostly men.

I have included several studies, who conducted them, and how they were conducted. This is a very lengthy article so I suspect most people don't bother reading it, they just state their opinions based on general belief of the people they know and the information they have been fed all of their lives, right or wrong. I can't tell you how many people tell me they do not want to have to think, and I suspect that makes reading an article that is basically educational seem pretty tedious.

My articles, not just this one, often get comments that have no relation to the subject of the article and so it becomes obvious that person commenting did not read the article. I often put things in the last part of my articles that a person will not know if they don't read the article in its entirety. I don't do it to stump people, it's just my writing style. Even so, that writing habit often tells on people who have not read the article.

Thanks for the votes!

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Au fait 2 years ago from North Texas Author

Aunt Jimi, thank you for stopping. Word55 is a nice guy so don't pick on him too much. See ya when you get in Friday night. Take care . .

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JayeWisdom 2 years ago from Deep South, USA

Au fait - This is a very well-researched and organized hub, and you are obviously passionate about the topic. I applaud you for the very thorough result.

As with most skills and abilities, I usually think that aptitude, training and attitude outweigh gender when considering the performance of individuals, either women or men.

Since the stats show that more men have accidents than women, I think the tendency of men to be more aggressive and impatient than women when driving contributes to accidents. (I've had two husbands, both of whom drove too fast, too aggressively and took unnecessary chances. I count myself lucky to have lived through my marriages! Haha.)

But yes, women collectively have the requisite skills, aptitude and attitude to out-drive men. Stereotypes should be avoided when insisting that women 'can't' do something well. For every woman who may not want to do something generally considered a 'masculine' pursuit, there are many women who not only want to do it, but do it in a superior manner.

I am probably not the best person to comment on this issue because I am a woman who has always HATED driving, yet I've driven a lot since I got my driver license as a teen. That was because it was necessary, not because I wanted to drive. I've driven cars of varying sizes, from a two-seater to a very large car. I drove a van for a while, as well as two pickup trucks.

I was prepared for driving by driver education in high school and in my mid-40s took a comprehensive defensive driving course. I also did well on my driver license tests (including those necessary when I moved from state to state and encountered differing laws). But nothing ever made me want to drive, and that affects the comfort zone and ability. I suppose it's a personal idiosyncracy or my own individual aptitude and attitude (since I had ample training).

Here's a funny anecdote about my aversion to driving. Before my retirement, I often had to make several road trips per month for work purposes. Most were one-day round trips from my work division's base city to a branch office in another city and state, three hours away. Often I was accompanied by two other managers, both of whom were women. Even though we used my company car, I always 'suggested' that one of them might want to drive. It got to be a joke, particularly when they started referring to me as 'Miss Daisy.' It tells you how much I disliked driving that I just laughed along with them about the nickname and continued to let myself be 'chauffered.' Anything to avoid driving!

Fortunately, I don't need to drive a car much these days, although less practice makes me even more uncomfortable as a driver. Age is now a factor, so when the day finally arrives for my son to hols out his hand for my car keys (shades of Miss Daisy!), I won't put up an argument. I will gladly give them up.

Again, my feelings toward driving and my ability to do it are based on all the things that make me an individual--not because I'm a woman.

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Aunt Jimi 2 years ago from The reddest of the Red states!

I always have to stop and check the comments on this hub of yours every now and then. They're often so incredible. Not disappointed either. I see Word55 thinks all those studies you referenced were merely your opinion and he says, they may be on point too. That's funny. I guess people who have never written a research paper think all writing is only somebody's opinion. I wonder if the reason they don't know who is the Vice President or the Speaker of the House of the U.S. is because they never listen to or read the news. Seems to them everything is opinion -- fiction in other words. Apparently some people don't know what a fact is either. They seem to think people can just manufacture them at will.

Love this hub of yours and it's fun to see how so many people, mostly men, but some women too, can't deal with having the misconceptions they've heard all their lives outed.

Should be back in town next weekend. See ya then. Voted up and the works, also sharing with my followers.

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Au fait 2 years ago from North Texas Author

Shyron, thank you for coming by, glad you enjoy the comments. Thanks for the votes and shares and the pin too. One can never have too many -- like hugs and love and prayers.

Haven't seen you here for a while. Hope all is well and that you haven't become discouraged. Take care . .

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Au fait 2 years ago from North Texas Author

Word55, thanks for stopping by. If something isn't on point it isn't a fact. You can't be a good driver if you're not a careful driver.

It's a 'fact' that a person who has lots of accidents is not a good driver. Driving slow on the freeway or on highways can cause lots of accidents and so a slow driver is not necessarily a careful or a good driver.

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word55 2 years ago from Chicago

Hi Au fait, This was good. I appreciate your point of view. I believe it also and from my observation women tend to be more careful drivers than men. Perhaps, your facts were on point as well :-)

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Shyron E Shenko 2 years ago

Thought I would give this another shout out, the comments are really interesting, I really do enjoy reading them. But it is hard to argue with facts.

Every driver should read this.

Voted up, UABI, pinned to AH and shared

I hope all is well with you.

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Au fait 2 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you Peggy W for Tweeting and Pinning this article!

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Peggy W 2 years ago from Houston, Texas

Will pin this again and tweet. Well documented article as to who make for the better drivers. ☺

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Au fait 2 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you for coming by Shyron, and for the votes and share. I believe repeating nonsense over and over again in an effort to force someone to agree just so the nonsense will stop is harassment. I don't mind if someone disagrees with me, but when they attack my intelligence, my logic, and my work, they need to have more than their delicate ego to support their arguments.

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Shyron E Shenko 2 years ago

I really like this Au fait, and came back to read the comments, that would make a good comic book.

Voted up, UABI, and Shared

Blessings my friend

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Au fait 2 years ago from North Texas Author

Shyron, thank you for your comments, votes, and share! Glad you enjoy!

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Shyron E Shenko 2 years ago

Au fait, I like to come back and read the intertaining comments on here. It is so much fun to read about what others say, especially on this subject.

Voted up, UAI pinned and shared

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Au fait 2 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you Peggy W for tweeting this article!

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Peggy W 2 years ago from Houston, Texas

I can see that you have gotten many more interesting comments since I first read this and pinned it. Will give it a tweet today!

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Au fait 2 years ago from North Texas Author

Sam (samowhamo), thank you for stopping by and commenting. 'They' have been talking about flying cars since I was in elementary school -- a very long time ago. Can you imagine everyone flying home at rush hour in their private flying vehicles in New York or Chicago, Los Angeles, or Dallas? I honestly think that would be more dangerous and congested than the present situation.

As for cars that drive themselves, according to an issue of Popular Mechanics from last year, the first cars that drive themselves will be on the market and available to anyone who can afford them in 2017. So save your money!

Research shows that computer controlled vehicles are safer by far. They don't get distracted with cell phones, texting, occupants they're gabbing with while they drive, or by misbehaving or sick/injured children, etc.

Hope all's well there.

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samowhamo 2 years ago

I read somewhere that within a few decades from now flying cars will be invented and that they might even be able to drive themselves using computers. I wonder if this would make driving safer.

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Au fait 2 years ago from North Texas Author

WriterJanis, thank you for stopping by. Hope you read the article too. Yes, people do seem to have trouble accepting that what they have believed forever, or want to believe, is not quite right.

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WriterJanis 2 years ago from California

I think I could spend hours here reading all the comments here. Quite a heated debate. With that I'll just say that you have some amazing photos on your hub.

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Au fait 2 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you for stopping by Deborah-Diane. I know there are some good male drivers out there and I know several personally, but then there are the ones who must take risks and cause accidents. Like you, I hope they will decide to be more responsible and save lives -- including their own.

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Au fait 2 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you for reading and commenting Aunt Jimi! Also for sharing. I hope the men who drive irresponsibly will pay attention and stop taking needless silly chances, and stop feeling the need to competitive on the road, so that they can really be the better drivers they believe themselves to be. There are a lot of good male drivers and I know some of them personally, but unfortunately they are not the majority.

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Deborah-Diane 2 years ago from Orange County, California

This time of year, when there is such a huge increase in traffic accidents, is a great time to share this article. Perhaps some people will decide to make better choices in their driving!

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Aunt Jimi 2 years ago from The reddest of the Red states!

I love this hub and I know a lot of other women who do too! Had to come back and reread some of my favorite sections. Going to share this with my followers.

Hope you and your daughter had a great Christmas!

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you Victoria Lynn for reading and commenting on this article! In those few places on this planet where women are truly considered equal, research showed that women are just as good at spacial skills as men. The difference was that where women are considered equal, they have more confidence and faith in their own abilities and perform better on tests of all kinds.

Where women are told from the day they're born that they are inferior to men and cannot do this or that -- well, as in most cases of every kind, people live up to society's expectations.

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Victoria Lynn 3 years ago from Arkansas, USA

Statistics don't lie! Good job on all the research! Men may know how car works, and may have more spatial skills--who knows--but women are generally more careful. It totally makes sense.

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you Denise Handlon for reading and commenting on this article! Also for the votes and share. I was really surprised at what I found when I got into researching this issue. I figured it would be a draw. It is that untamed urge for risk and competition that seems to be the downfall for men. Most of them know how to drive well, they just get sidetracked by their desire to take risks and then all their knowledge of driving goes out the window . . . ;) Glad you enjoyed!

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Shyron E Shenko, thank you for the votes, the shares, and the congrats, and most of all for being a good friend.

I have a bird's eye view most of the day, and do you know who I see talking and/or texting most often while they're driving? And do you know they even do it in a school zone where the fines here in my school district start at $200 a pop? If you guessed men, you're right!

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Denise Handlon 3 years ago from North Carolina

Not because I am female and the superior sex of driving, but this article is AWESOME. You have really spent some time doing research here! I am amazed with your tenacity and drive for information. Well done. UP and across for the information and examples, as well as the awesome photos. Sharing.

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you for stopping by Aunt Jimi, and for the Congrats. Yes, it is true that some men have problems performing if they feel threatened. Some men must feel superior in order to feel good about themselves. Some women suffer from this same complex, but of course it's less obvious when women can't perform. ;)

Given how researchers came to the conclusions that they did on this issue, I really don't understand why anyone thinks there's something to argue about. Of course there are some people who do not believe it's important to be a safe driver in order to also be a good driver. Sort of like it being possible to be a great lawyer even though s/he lost every case s/he ever handled. ;) Would you hire an excellent driver who had an average of one serious accident a year and a stack of traffic citations? Not talking parking tickets here.

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Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago

You really took a bite out of men's ego! You busted their bubble, shredded their last hope of being superior to women.

Love it. This is the one that should go viral!

Voting up across the board, posted on fb and sharing again!

Congrats on Editor's choice.

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

starbright, glad you could spare a few seconds!

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Hezekiah, thank you for stopping by and leaving a comment. In fact who is the better driver was determined by who has the most accidents, especially severe accidents and accidents under the influence. Also by who gets the most citations for breaking the traffic laws.

How researchers determined who is the better driver was stated in this hub and there is no difficulty whatever in determining who that is. One need only count the number of citations in every category and separate them according to whether the driver was male or female. Also, count the number of accidents caused by men and the number of accidents caused by women.

Safety is the most important factor when driving.

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Aunt Jimi 3 years ago from The reddest of the Red states!

Well, I've noticed a few women who don't feel the need to kiss up to men for fear men will ignore them, making comments on here. About time. Facts are what they are and it's time for people to face reality. I've heard that when men lose their superior positions they also find it hard to perform. Any truth to that? You're the PSYC major.

Going to share this again. Note you got Editor's Choice on it -- Congrats!

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you Nell Rose for reading and sharing your observations and thoughts on this issue! Also for voting on, pinning, and sharing this hub! Yes, it seems that some men are having a very difficult time accepting the debunking of the myth that men are better drivers. ;)

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starbright 3 years ago from Scandinavia

Thanks for sharing this one. Shared.

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Hezekiah 3 years ago from Japan

Great hub, although it's difficult to judge driving skill on the street or everyday roads. Some people say skill is the ability to drive high speed narrowing through objects. Other say that skill is to drive safe. In any case, I've seen women struggle with parking only due to being cautious. Men may be overconfident and scrape a car while parking too fast. All the same in the end - drive safe.

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Nell Rose 3 years ago from England

Hi, you put a lot of work into this one, nice one! I don't actually drive, but I also read and see what's happening, how men can say they are the better drivers is beyond me, the facts speak for themselves, and the statistics every day, voted up amazing! shared and pinned, nell

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you Deborah-Diane for reading and sharing your thoughts on this issue and for writing a Bubble about this article! Yes, men need to learn to drive more responsibly. Just knowing how to drive and how to drive well doesn't cut it. A person must follow through on what they know and actually do it if they want to be considered a good driver -- and stay alive.

Heard a few years ago that thinking about exercising had just as good a result as actually exercising. That never worked for me and I don't think merely thinking/knowing about/how to drive well makes much difference either if a person doesn't actually do it.

Thanks again!

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Deborah-Diane 3 years ago from Orange County, California

Thank you for writing this article! Even though I used to be a Realtor and often drove around in my car all day long, I have never had even a minor car accident. I have only had one ticket in the past 25 years ... for failing to come to a full stop before making a right turn on red. (Personally, I think the cop was being a jerk because I did stop long enough to see there was no oncoming traffic, but not long enough to please the officer.) On the other hand, my husband has had a number of car accidents and a few tickets. He is almost 70 and still drives recklessly at times. I have even taken my own car places a few times, which will get him to drive more responsibly for a few months. I loved your stories and your statistics in this article. I am pinning this and tweeting it. GREAT article! I am also going to write a short bubble (on Bubblews) about your article and include the URL of your article for people to come back and read the full report. I hate to sound so enthusiastic ... but I believe women need to receive this kind of encouragement ... and men need to learn they should drive more responsibility if they don't want to kill themselves or someone else.

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you thelyricwriter for reading and commenting on this article! Also for voting on and sharing on FB.

People 16-25 have more accidents than people over 60.

Being responsible for accidents, especially serious accidents, means a person needs to use better judgment and possibly improve their driving skills. Despite what some people want to believe, you can't be a good driver and also drive around having accidents and killing people.

A person might consider him or herself a good driver because whenever they crash their vehicle they kill somebody and their fatality rate may be 100%, but that doesn't mean they are a good driver. The wisdom here is that you should be operating a vehicle for practical or recreational purposes, not in order to kill people -- even if you are one of those people who considers killing people recreational and your favorite thing to do.

Often times it isn't that a person's driving skills are bad, but that their judgment is bad, taking unnecessary risks etc. There are indeed both male and female bad drivers, but according to accident reports and reports on who gets citations for breaking various traffic laws, men get the prize.

Men are bad drivers 8 times for every 2 times a woman is a bad driver. Serious and often fatal accidents are, according to officers who made reports at the scene of the accidents, the fault of men 80% of the time. Male drivers also tend to have the more serious accidents, some of which end up killing their passengers and themselves.

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thelyricwriter 3 years ago from West Virginia

Au Fait, voted up, useful, awesome, interesting, and shared on FB. Very informative article. I never have thought about who is the better driver, men or women. I've been driving for nearly 20 years and I have come to the same conclusion, old people can't drive, men and women:) I loved all the stats, very interesting. The numbers don't lie though, they are what they are. In all honesty, both sexes have bad drivers. Interesting topic, great article.

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you Shyron, for the votes, the share, and for your untiring support. Expect it is very difficult for men when they have been brought up to believe and told all of their lives that they are superior to suddenly be told they are not. ;)

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you sgbrown for reading and sharing your thoughts on this article! Also, thanks for the votes and support. No doubt there are individual good male drivers, but as a group . . . ;)

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Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago

I agree with sgbrown, you can't win especially with husbands. Even though my hubby says he agrees with you Au fait, but when we are out and he sees something stupid, he usually says "that has got to be a woman." My reply now is: No Way! "Only a man could do something like that."

I am glad stats are on my side.

Voted-up, UABI and shared. I pinned this before.

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sgbrown 3 years ago from Southern Oklahoma

I am so glad to see all the statistics and information here. I am NOT going to get into this discussion here or with hubby, as I will not win, but I know myself that I have always been correct in believing that women are the better drivers. Voting this up and interesting, great job! :)

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you HappyMikeWritter for stopping by and sharing your thoughts. Records of accidents and traffic citations show that in fact it does matter if one is male or female. 80% of all traffic accidents are caused by male drivers and the vast majority of traffic violations in every category are issued to male drivers. Safe drivers are good drivers. Unsafe drivers are not good drivers regardless of which sex they happen to be. Glad you enjoyed this article! :)

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HappyMikeWritter 3 years ago

Is hard to say. I believe is not about being man or a woman but human. If you are a human you drive the way that is safe for everyone. If you are a piggy driver, you drive like a piggy and won't matter if you are a man or woman. Many people believe all you need for driving is a skill to drive but I trully believe it involve a brain as well :-)

Love your article :-)

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you girishpuri for reading and commenting on this article and for sharing your thoughts on this subject!

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Hackslap . . . hope your day is going well . .

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girishpuri 3 years ago from NCR , INDIA

Very interesting debate here. as far as my experience is concerned, my wife drives better than me.. lol. very impressive choice of topic, congratulations.

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Hackslap 3 years ago from Sydney, Australia

well since this is your article .. i'll let you have the last say .. it's a deuce :) ... and I guess Im probably looking foolishly charming so we'll halt at that..... adios

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Hackslap, you need to actually read this article, which you obviously have not yet done. When you make comments about things you have not read it can make you look, well, the way you're looking right now. Want to gripe? Gripe at the researchers. I'm just reporting the findings. Safer drivers equals better drivers.

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Hackslap 3 years ago from Sydney, Australia

Not sure which study you're referring to Au Fait..but it has been scientifically proven that women take longer to master the art of parking than men due to the way their brains have been wired .. there's no disgrace Ms Fait do somethings better (for example looking at the road while driving and not staring at their engagement ring only to crash into the car ahead or taking 15 mins to parallel park an eco-hatchback only to be filmed by a group of teenagers and having the clip go viral on YouTube :P)

In all fairness I'll concede though that women are more finicky on the road and that makes them safer drivers (i had my driving test with a female inspector!..fortunately i passed :)

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you for stopping by Hackslap. Given that men, according to the studies cited here, are responsible for 80% of all auto accidents, I think it might be a good idea if they kept their vehicles parked. However, the study on parking a vehicle concluded that women do that better too. ;)

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Hackslap 3 years ago from Sydney, Australia

Nice article!..Us guys tend to think we're better drivers based on our ability to parallel park better ...:)

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you Sherry Hewins for sharing your experience with driving. There are some good male drivers out there so hopefully your husband's record will remain clean even if a bit scary. ;)

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

pstraubie48, thank you for reading, commenting, voting on, and sharing this hub. Appreciate your candor also.

Most of the time when statistics are manipulated it is when people make them up as they go, or at least as often, manipulate the answers to questions they may be polling.

For example, would you object to helping a person in need? Your answer would most likely be no, you would not object.

How about we phrase it this way? Would you object to giving an able bodied person a handout? In this case, your answer is most likely to be yes, you would mind.

Both mean essentially the same thing, but the words chosen for the question and the way it is asked manipulates the likely answer.

You are correct in that one study I referenced was done by a university and another, which I stated in my text, was the New York City Police Department. I think neither had a horse in this particular race. In other words, the stats had no effect on them personally or on their organizations. No one involved in these studies had a stake in the outcome or conclusion. There was no reason to manipulate the stats. As you say, there were records to back them up. Official citations handed out to drivers for breaking traffic laws, and accident reports made out by police officers at the scene taking note of who was driving and who was at fault.

Were there fender benders that never got reported or documented? I'm sure there were, but even without them, the stats regarding who causes the most serious and fatal accidents was clear.

Of the fender benders that are reported and documented, women are often at fault. Most of the time the damage is small and there are no fatalities in a fender bender.

Most of the accidents in question here that have been documented were not fender benders. I doubt there were any serious accidents or accidents that included human fatalities that were not reported. Can you imagine someone dying in an auto accident and no one calling the police or an ambulance? Just sneaking the body off and burying it? No one noticing that they don't see Old John around anymore, wonder where he went?

There was a hit and run in the Dallas area some years ago. A woman hit a pedestrian and he was thrown up on the hood of her car and stuck against the windshield. She drove her car home with the man still alive and parked it in her garage and left it there and the man of course died. No accident report -- not right away. I don't remember how it was discovered, but eventually the police caught up with the woman and the man was, I believe, still on her hood. The police did document it once discovered. It was a couple of weeks or maybe a month after it happened. I don't remember exactly, but I did hear some of the news reports on the evening news. The woman went to jail more for hit and run and letting the man die, than for hitting him in the first place. He had been walking along the side of the freeway late at night, not a good place for a stroll, but not getting him help immediately was unconscionable and the court agreed with that.

I think it's a matter of dividing the citations and accidents into different piles according to what kind they were and then dividing those piles each into 2 piles, one for women and one for men. Then just count and see who wins the prize.

Frankly I thought the stats would be more evenly distributed since I well know that there are both terrible female and male drivers. I've seen them both behind the wheel many times.

As surprised as I was to discover that men are the worse drivers, I think it truly shocked some men who apparently have all of their masculinity wrapped up in the idea of being superior to women generally, and especially when it comes to driving.

Yes many mechanics do take advantage of women who know very little about how cars are built and how they run, but more and more men are being taken advantage of for the same reason. Not nearly as many shade tree mechanics out there as there used to be with the advent of computers being added.

It's always good to drive defensively. Like I said, CDL holders, no matter if they're driving a commercial vehicle or their own personal motor vehicle, are expected to prevent accidents even when the accident wouldn't be there fault, and that means leaving your ego at home when you're driving. You may have the right of way and still have to just be patient and let someone else go ahead in order to prevent an accident.

Being alert to what is going on around you and avoiding distractions goes a long way towards preventing accidents. Make sure you have enough time to reach your destination so you won't be tempted to speed and so you will be more inclined to be patient with those people who will inevitably do crazy things around you.

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

rebeccamealey, thank you for stopping by!

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you thumbi7 for reading, commenting, voting on and sharing this article! I know a lot of good male drivers, but of course the stats in this hub are general and overall, and overall, women are indeed the safer drivers.

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you Sam (samowhamo) for your loyalty and support. You are a dear friend, no question about it, and very wise too. As you say, denying facts will not make them go away.

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Cat, thank you for your continued interest in this article (Cantuhearmescream).

That is exactly what I’m saying Cat. Just because a person can build a vehicle from the ground up successfully does not mean they can drive that vehicle skillfully or safely. Mechanic or not, anyone who has a driver’s license should realize that some road and weather conditions require more caution than others. Everyone needs to put safety first over ego.

I see people like your mother driving down the street I live on frequently. Here in Texas where it tends to rain a lot in a hurry when it rains, we have little gullies on some streets. Places where the water is being directed off the street and there is often one just before an intersection and another just before leaving an intersection. They tend to be several inches deep. If you drive through it at the speed limit, say 30 mph, you will do your vehicle no favors. You can mess up the front end, the wheel alignment, and anything that’s not firmly attached could well drop off right there in the road. I see people who do not slow down for these deep dips all the time. If you hit one of those dips with a large vehicle, such as a bus, your passengers will go flying several feet into the air.

I was riding with a driver a few months ago who (IMO) was daydreaming. A woman, in case there are male readers who want to gloat a bit here. The dip she hit was very shallow. A car would not likely have even noticed it. I was sitting about the 4th seat back and a student was sitting across from me on the other side of the bus. When she hit that shallow dip at 25-30 MPH I went flying a least 2 feet in the air. The student was wearing a seatbelt but still got his head slammed against the window. I don’t even want to think how high I would have flown if I had been sitting in the back of the bus. It jarred my whole body so bad and hurt my spine -- it was unbelievable.

I think we all know women who are scatterbrained and ditzy and when someone has those qualities/traits they tend to permeate their lives. Men can be ditzy too, but it is primarily a female trait. Men on the other hand are more aggressive and violent, so nobody is perfect. Anyway, ditzy women tend to do everything in a ditzy way whether it’s driving a vehicle, or loading the dishwasher, or answering the phone, or anything at all.

The fact is that zero tolerance for alcohol is not the rule or the law in any state that I’m aware of. That is why it is on the written driver’s test. Alcohol is a big part of a lot of people’s lives even though that is not the case for you or me.

People who include alcohol to a large extent into their lives need to know what the legal limit is and I can tell you it is very low in every state. Extremely low, and if people know that, some of them will be more careful. There are always some people who have no respect for traffic laws of any kind.

Let’s just say that including a question on the driver’s written test regarding the legal blood/alcohol limits in your state is another mark against you if you are ever caught driving drunk. If you have a valid driver’s license you can’t say you didn’t know what the law was in regard to driving and alcohol. Having that on the test is not only informative, but a warning to anyone who might abuse it. In fact, any driver, new or old, should know what the traffic laws are. Nothing should be left to assumption.

Here in Texas driving under the influence or while intoxicated, if a person has a CDL (commercial driver’s license), can cause a person to lose their license for a minimum of one year and if they get any driver’s license back after that time, not necessarily a 
CDL, their auto insurance will likely be higher than their mortgage, their electric bill, and their boat payment combined.

The most important part of air brakes, IMO, is knowing how to read and interpret the air gauge and being aware of the alarm system that should be working. Know how to test your brakes. I have had my brakes go out while driving a bus. I know lot of people who have had that same experience. Checking your vehicle over carefully (pre-trip inspection) and doing the brake test is essential to catching a brake problem, but even that may not be enough. Still, it’s better than nothing and prevents some vehicles from getting on the road that are not road worthy. Keeping your eye on the air gauge while you are driving -- glancing at it regularly, is also important so that you may see an air leak problem before it becomes an accident.

Driver’s Ed is required here in Texas for all persons who are under the age of 25 and who are applying for a Texas driver’s license. Since my daughter was home schooled, I trained my daughter to drive and ‘administered’ the driver’s education requirements. I was her driver’s ed teacher. There is much to learn before applying for and getting a driver’s permit which allows a practicing teen driver to practice driving in daylight hours with an adult (over 18) who has a valid driver’s license -- or with an adult over 35 who has a valid driver’s license, during day or nighttime.

It is the nature of most men to be aggressive, competitive, and to take risks. This is their problem when driving. If they can learn to manage these natural tendencies and overcome the urge to show off, they are generally excellent drivers, and I know a lot of men who are just that.

Women do well unless they are the sort I described above – on the ditzy side. You have an excellent film on one of your hubs that shows how ditzy drivers drive. They are a menace on the road, no question about it. They don’t think quickly enough and they don’t know how to manage their vehicles. It’s like they’re in a fog, and that’s true no matter what they are doing. When driving, it is especially dangerous. No doubt they are the sort Mr. Romeos is talking about, but in fact, they are the minority of women, and thank God for that. They are pretty much a danger in anything they do whether driving or something else, but they are the minority, and no doubt the cause of at least 18% of the 20% of accidents women as a group are responsible for.

I added a section in the right hand margin for Mr. Romeo’s benefit regarding which sex has more driver’s licenses in the U.S., and a comparison of which sex drives more miles (this goes to experience). Women have more driver’s licenses, and now are driving about the same number of miles here in the U.S.

Just my opinion, but while men seem to have trouble controlling their desire to take risks and be aggressive drivers, some women seem to have trouble paying attention to their driving. One must be alert at all times. Thing can change in the blink of an eye. Leave the list of to-dos for when you’re waiting in line at the check out or at the doctor’s office. Don’t go over it while you’re driving.

Another thing that seems clear to me from my hours of observation on the road is that a lot of people do not know the traffic laws. I have no idea how they passed their written tests. The do not understand who has the right of way, they do not understand what a double white line means, and they do not know that changing lanes in an intersection is illegal and dangerous. That’s just the tip of the iceberg and it applies to both men and women drivers.

Well, being accused of making up the statistics by Mr. Romeos was not a help. Even though he doesn’t have a clue about what he is talking about, he is still a man. A lot of people really believe men are superior and know everything, and if they don’t know everything, they still know more than women -- because they are men. So many people have been programmed to believe that by our society that a lot of them don’t even realize they have been programmed and do not question the validity of it. Just read the comments on this hub and you will see some extremely ludicrous reasoning, if you can call it that, by both men and women.

I was indeed surprised at my findings and they are all over the Internet printed by many credible news sources that we have all heard of and recognize. Anyone can look them up

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you for stopping by Tom Schumacher. If you read this article you know that it isn't based on opinion, but on research examining documentation of traffic citations and accident reports.

While some people may have an opinion about how much one's sex has to do with driving skill, I think opinion, like antidotal evidence is irrelevant. The record of who gets the most citations and for what, and who has the most serious accidents, speak for themselves.

I am aware of no stats collected or analyzed according to race or ethnicity. I will say, that where I work the drivers come in all colors, ages, sizes, sexes, genders, and length of service/experience. If anything, out of those drivers that I personally know (about 150 or so where I am now, plus another 90 or so drivers from my previous job), I would have to say the Hispanics and African Americans were the better drivers overall. Some of the people who happen to be minorities were poor drivers, but by far, more of the poor drivers were white, including both men and women.

There are excellent drivers in every race, ethnicity, sex, gender, and age group. For the most part my experience and observation would suggest it is an individual ability/skill like so many other things.

I am, however, speaking about professional drivers here, and they are a class by themselves. It is the Class C drivers who cause most of the traffic problems, and so many of them, both men and women, get hysterical around large vehicles and do really stupid things.

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Sherry Hewins 3 years ago from Sierra Foothills, CA

In my personal experience with my husband and me, he is the more skilled driver, but I am the more careful driver. Both of us have good driving records, but being a passenger in his car is sometimes a frightening experience.

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Sharkye11, thank you for sharing your thoughts and for the up vote!

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pstraubie48 3 years ago from sunny Florida

Great hub, Aufait

You chose a hot topic and were not afraid to espouse your findings and beliefs. You are to be applauded for that.

The line that stated men are 77% more likely to be in fatal accidents was an eyeopener. Yes, I know statistics can be manipulated to say whatever pretty much that we want them to. These would be rather difficult to seems they would clearly one way or the other (unless of course some are ignored?? which I doubt.).

From personal experience, the aggressive drivers that I have encountered have been men by and large.

The lesson to me from your writings is to be more aware and more wary as a driver when I am on the highway. I thought I was before but now I will be even more so.

I have experienced being thought of as an easy mark as a woman especially when it came to my car care. I found one mechanic who was honest and would not cheat me but had to move and ever since have really been wary when I have gone to have car repair. As a result, I took a class just so that I would know basic car parts and functions so I would be aware when I took my car in.

Thank you for sharing this...voted up++

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you moonlake, for commenting, voting, and sharing this hub. Very much appreciate hearing about your traffic experience. I have seen similar situations many times and was in fact just talking about that very thing not long ago -- motorcycles scooting between vehicles that are traveling in lanes that are side by side going in the same direction.

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rebeccamealey 3 years ago from Northeastern Georgia, USA

It's so interesting how guys and girls are so different. I think it is a survival thing. Team work between couples can help the little ones survive. Great read, teaches!

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thumbi7 3 years ago from India

It is an interesting read.

I do believe that women are better drivers. They are more careful and don't go into unnecessary competitions on the road.

Voted up and shared

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samowhamo 3 years ago

I agree with Au Fait this is all fact and its not male bashing if its fact. As I have said before I believe in facts whatever they may be even the ones I may not like because denying them is not going to make them go away people try to do that lots of times but it never happens and besides what's the big deal its just saying women are better drivers why do you feel the need to put her down just for stating a fact.

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you for stopping by and sharing your thoughts Ralph. As a professional driver I noticed all drivers, especially the erratic drivers. In fact, just since I wrote that I had seen my first responsible motorcycle driver, there was anther one just a couple of days ago that was darting in and out between cars and actually riding between cars that were in lanes side by side going in the same direction. Do some guys just hate their legs and want rid of them? A good way to get them removed is to ride a motorcycle between 2 vehicles that could squish him at any time. This guy appeared to be in his mid 30s.

Man bashing? If stating the statistics that were gathered mostly by men and analyzed mostly by men, and those statistics paint a horrible picture of male driving ability and or judgment, then I'm bashing. Are you trying to intimidate me?

Men have been bashing women for centuries. Emotionally, verbally, financially, and physically. Restricting our freedom and spreading ludicrous lies about us, such as women aren't able to handle emergencies as well as men because we're so emotional. Did you see how emotional men got in the comments on this hub? And men are supposed to be better at handling the red telephone?

Men used to believe, even into the late 19th Century (1899) that women were unable to handle serious situations because they were innately hysterical due to their "wandering uterus." Is that man logic by chance?

Vanessa Traniello in the history dept. of Marquette University in Milwaukee Wisconsin wrote, "The term hysteria comes from the Greek word hysterika, meaning Uterus. In ancient Greece it was believed that a wandering and discontented Uterus was blamed for that dreaded female ailment of excessive emotion, hysteria. The disease's symptoms were believed to be dictated by where in the body the offending organ roamed."

Apparently some men believed a woman's uterus could roam to her brain, her knee, her arm, or even her foot! Even today men are doing their best to control a woman's uterus and thereby control women individually, and in general. Note all the laws being passed recently to prevent women from controlling their own bodies.

Ancient Greece is one thing, but men of medicine and science continued to believe this garbage, as previously stated, into the late 19th Century.

Women have been used and abused (bashed) from the beginning of time and I see it is still rampant even today. I ask you, when is the woman bashing going to stop?

The stats and the analysis of the stats, and the reason professionals believe the stats are what they are, speak for themselves. If the stats had said just the opposite and women were found responsible for 80% of all accidents men would have jumped on that bandwagon faster than a NY second.

From what my friend tells me you are a supporter of the Personal Responsibility Party. So what's this garbage about man bashing just because, like dozens of other entities, I have reported research findings, not my own, that are unflattering to men?

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you for sharing your car repair experience Shyron. I don't know if it made you a better driver, but I do know that like other women I have known who did repairs, some major, on their own vehicles, that it does show that women can do these things and successfully.

People do strange and crazy things sometimes when they're arguing or having a fight with their significant other. I have known other women who chased their boyfriend or husband with their car seriously intent on running them down. We have all heard about these things on TV from time to time. Men do it sometimes too. Appreciate your sharing these stories.

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Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago

I just remembered an incident that happened when I lived in Chicago. A girl that I knew (I say girl because she was childish) she chased her boyfriend down a sidewalk with her VW Beatle. Very funny, but dangerous for anyone who might walk out of a doorway. Just wanted to share that with you. No I was not in her car. I was parked in a parking spot.

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Peyton Walker, thank you for stopping by.

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Shanti Perez, thank you for stopping by. Very true.

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you Kathleen Cochran for sharing your knowledge on this subject in regard to Saudi Arabia. I find that interesting information and I too would be interested to see what happens when more women over there drive. Keep in mind that research shows women who are marginalized in patriarchal societies don't always do well at what is considered in their culture as "men's work." because they have been programmed to believe they are inferior.

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Blissfulwriter, thank you for stopping by. They were easy to find. Truth is stranger than fiction.

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Martin, thank you for stopping by and leaving a very curious and entertaining comment. ;)

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

john000, thank you for reading and commenting on this hub, and for the votes! Appreciate your perspective. You would think I had slain every man's first born the way most of them reacted. Thanks for stopping.

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you for commenting, Levertis Steele. While I've heard that some women get hysterical easily, I have known only one or two in my life. I am not personally close (as in friend or relative) to any such women, nor am I personally prone to hysteria for any reason.

I have known many professional drivers which you might expect since I do myself hold a commercial driver's license. All but a handful of them were and are very good drivers, both men and women.

None of the women got hysterical even when adults purposely and stupidly drove in front them, even when children ran out in front of them, and not when dogs and cats ran out in front of them either, which happens frequently if you log very many hours driving. Perhaps a rabbit would have caused them to scream and drive into a tree, but none of these other things did.

Antidotal evidence is not scientific and carries no weight where it matters -- with your auto insurance company and a court of law -- just a couple of examples.

Some people think facts are irrelevant and get really hysterical when those facts are applied to situations in which they find themselves -- like a courtroom, for example.

I do know of a man who became hysterical when a young man with several serious birth defects went into a seizure on his bus. I was there. I handled the situation for the most part because this man could not control his emotions. He turned into a veritable basket case because he didn't know what to do. He made the situation worse. Instead of one person needing assistance, I had two! One of them should have been helpful instead of needing help.

Hysteria helps no one. The first thing anyone needs to learn when driving professionally, especially if one is responsible for the lives of other people, is to keep their wits about them. Anyone who cannot do that is a danger to themselves and everyone around them. People who cannot manage their emotions in an emergency are more likely to die than people who do manage their emotions in a critical situation. If you can't think straight, you can't help yourself or anyone else.

It's really a shame that so many women feel like they have to dumb themselves down to be attractive to the opposite sex. I never did. I figured, what do I want an idiot hanging around me for? I'm just not that desperate to have a man underfoot, and yet for some reason I'm always tripping over them.

You might be surprised at how much men respect and prefer women who have confidence in themselves and who do not feel the need to dumb themselves down. Men love the exotic and a woman who doesn't dumb herself down is sadly still exotic. For some people I should probably define exotic -- unusual. Sadly, even in these so-called enlightened times, it is still common (not unusual) for women to dumb themselves down to feel attractive. These women truly believe no man will be interested in them if they seem too smart or too capable.

How sad that in our most modern and enlightened society men do not feel manly unless a woman is pretending ignorance and incompetence, and a woman does not feel desirable unless pretending these things.

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Cantuhearmescream 3 years ago from New York

Au fait,

Your point about the 747 jet is true. I get it, as a matter of fact, I know guys that can build a car from the bottom up and still drive recklessly, or the ‘woman’ that knows nothing about what’s under a hood and drives responsibly with a keen alertness. Though, I believe you’re suggesting that it’s likely to contribute some kind of advantage to understand how a car runs when considering the quality of driving skills. For instance, driving in the snow; my mother will drive the same speed, regardless the conditions and she puts her car in a ditch, every winter. She will ‘reduce’ her speed a hair and then use that as her defense ‘I was only going … mph’. I always say, ‘Well, apparently that was too fast for the road conditions’ period! When you understand the difference between front or rear wheel drive, for example… it should be a little beneficial in how to ‘handle’ your car in the snow. Just an example, I’m sure there are better ones.

As far as Driver’s Ed goes, I think that should be a requirement; I don’t know if it is in some places, but I know it’s not in New York and I’ve never taken it myself. Why wouldn’t it be a prerequisite for a child who is about become a licensed driver and soon out on the road with a motorized vehicle? I also don’t know if driver’s tests are standardized, but the one I took, I found to be a joke. There was a plethora of questions that I was asked that have never had any relevance to my driving experiences once becoming a licensed driver and then there are things that I was never tested on that I would’ve thought to be important. For instance, why was I tested on the legal limit for blood alcohol content? As a new driver, I should be under the impression that there is zero tolerance and there is no legal limit. Needless to say, I failed that question.

Oh yes, air brakes; we have those in our fire trucks and they are obviously very different than the breaks on a normal vehicle, yet I needed to testing or even knowledge of how they work to drive a fire truck up the road at excessive speeds to respond to an emergency.

I think, going with what you’re saying, the cause of many men’s accident is not lack of experience, but lack of responsibility, whereas the cause of women’s accidents is probably less to do with responsibility and more to do with experience.

Also, as I’ve said before, the accidents I respond to; involving women, they tend to be less severe, with less damage and less injury then the accidents involving men.

It’s a shame that this conversation has turned into a debate for so many people. You researched a topic and reported the results. You did not make up statistics to fit your needs and as you stated you were surprised by the findings yourself. Don’t shoot the messenger!


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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you rajan jolly for commenting, voting on, and sharing this hub!

There are indeed good and bad drivers among all sexes.

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Thank you Brett.Tesol for reading/commenting/voting on/tweeting/pinning/and sharing this hub!

Stats show that 80% of accidents are caused by and the fault of male drivers. That doesn't mean that all men are terrible drivers. In fact, it could be that just 30% of male drivers are causing all those accidents. Do you know a driver with a Class C license gets to kill 4 people in a year's time (in TX) before they lose their license? Unless they're under the influence or drunk, and then they can lose their license immediately. A CDL holder only gets to kill 3 people over a 3 year period. Do you have any idea how hysterical people drive when they're around large vehicles? Men and women both, not just men.

So conceivably the same male drivers may be causing many of the accidents. There are lots of ways to look at it.

I do think it's interesting that so many of my readers have taken this article personally and feel all defensive about it. That tells me that an awful lot of men really do believe themselves to be superior to women and that for a woman to suggest that men are imperfect in any way compared to women is a major offense in men's minds.

Another interesting development IMHO, is that men have gotten so very emotional about this. I thought infallible men had decided that women were the ones who always get over emotional. Hmmm. For sure sexism in the U.S., previously thought the most enlightened country in the world in the area of equality of the sexes, still has a long way to come baby.

Since you read this article I have added two more sections. In the right column is a section about who holds more driver's licenses, men or women, and who drives more miles. Maybe that will help answer your questions regarding whether more men driving is considered in these stats.

Also, since one of my UK readers insisted on comparing U.S. Stats with UK drivers, (apples and oranges), I added a section on this article regarding the same stats that apply to UK drivers only.

All I know is that big strong men are wanting to club this poor little woman to death for daring to report stats that other big strong men gathered/collected and analyzed, and then reported themselves. There are a gazillion articles 'out there' if anyone cares to Google them, and they all say the same thing. Surprising given the saturation of this specific topic that I have gotten so much notice, but I like it. :)

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Tom Schumacher 3 years ago from Huntington Beach, CA

Au fait, it was very brave of you to tackle such a highly debated topic! Although I prefer not to commit either way, for fear of retribution ; ), I would like to know your thoughts about driving capabilities as it relates to race/ethnicity. Similar to some people's belief that gender plays a role in the ability to properly operate a motor vehicle, others feel this dichotomy extends to race/ethnicity as well. Voted up for fun and interesting!

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Sharkye11 3 years ago from Oklahoma

Pretty interesting hub. And very dramatic comments! I rarely trust statistics, I go on what I see for myself. And that is that I have seen an equal number of good and bad drivers of both sexes. I think there is a difference between GOOD drivers and SAFE drivers. A good driver being someone who knows a car inside and out and how to handle it in all situations. A safe driver being someone who takes the time to be responsible at all times. I will honestly say that in our household, my husband is the good driver, and I am the safe driver. However, I remind him to be safe, and he teaches me how to be "one with the car truck".

I think a whole lot of what makes a driver safe or good is environment (while they were learning to drive), practice, and willingness to improve. And it still boils down to opinion. My idea of good driving is following traffic laws, not getting tickets, and never being in an accident. My husband's idea of good driving is to get where he is going as fast as possible. It wouldn't do us any good to debate better drivers, because I didn't drive until we got together. He taught me, so essentially, my driving is just an extension of him, right?

Anyhow, fun hub. Voting up.

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moonlake 3 years ago from America

I don't know who's the better driver. I think anyone is a better driver than I am. On our way home from vacation a motorcycle went between us and a semi. All the truck had to do was move just a little to his left and that bike would have been in our car. Voted up and shared.

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Cat (Cantuhearmescream), thank you for voting on, tweeting, and pinning this hub, and for your kind words and wisdom.

The only thing I would disagree with, though not entirely even with that, is that knowing (memorizing) the blueprint of a 747 jet will not allow a person to get behind the wheel and fly it perfectly just because they know all the parts, where they are, and how they work together. Memorizing and driving/flying are all different skills.

If knowing one's vehicle could make a person a perfect driver, and make up for their predisposition to be aggressive, competitive, and to take unnecessary risks, people who have the knowledge of their vehicles would never be at fault for any accident.

Driving skills and mechanical skills are 2 different things. My driver's ed class in high school required girls and boys alike, to learn the parts of a vehicle and how they work to make the vehicle go. Everyone passed, so presumably everyone knows a little bit about the mechanics of a motor vehicle. Still, they have accidents. If knowing and understanding the mechanics of a vehicle is so important, why isn't it on the written driving test?

For large vehicles we have to understand air brakes and how they work (mechanically speaking). Not much was mentioned about the motor. I did have to pass a written test for Class A drivers, but it was vague.

Regardless, mostly men (usually cops) collected the data on traffic violations and accidents, and men analyzed the date provided by the individual states. Men have determined that men are terrible drivers overall. Men cause 80% of ALL accidents. That doesn't mean that every single man is a terrible driver, or that every man is a terrible driver all of the time. Some men are no doubt sensible, responsible, excellent drivers. Unfortunately they are the minority.

If they would learn to control their innate urge to be aggressive and competitive while driving and stop taking unnecessary risks, I believe the accident rate for male drivers would come down. This is not my personal opinion, but the opinion of experts who study these things and who know male and female traits. I happen to agree with them until someone can prove them wrong.

Indeed, as I have said several times already, some women are horrific drivers, but they are in the minority. The stats gathered by mostly men (Cops) show that women have fewer traffic violations of every kind and fewer accidents of every kind. If telling the truth is man bashing, well, the world is a funny place.

Do people really believe that once a traffic violation is handed out or an accident report is completed that it is filed in the trash can? It isn't. Records are kept by every state in this country and D.C. on traffic violations and accidents, who was driving and who was at fault. Insurance companies keep their own stats on that as well.

I honestly do not see what the issue is here. The facts are what they are. This article is not based on my opinion. No article I ever write is based on my opinion. I do think, however, that it is precious that after decades of men demeaning women for their driving skills, that in fact it is men who are generally the worst drivers.

Ralph 3 years ago

"For sure, the facts in this case do not please men. However, with more and more women driving and driving as many or more miles as men, in time the stats could reverse, or at least even out."

Alright, I admit that men are just stupid in some ways, but you're on the verge of man bashing. Don't let the big egos like Romeo get to you. Men and women are different and can do a good job bringing out the best of their abilities in a healthy relationship.

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Epigramman, thank you for commenting and sharing on FB.

People's opinions are not usually facts, and often not even fact based. I don't deal with antidotal evidence as a rule. I like to research and get the facts. For sure, the facts in this case do not please men. However, with more and more women driving and driving as many or more miles as men, in time the stats could reverse, or at least even out.

I really think that men's innate nature is what is causing their accident rate, and I think that same nature is what is preventing them from being able to acknowledge that the stats in this case are just as credible and accurate as when, in other instances, they apply negatively to women.

Very much appreciate your sharing your thoughts. You are so lucky to be in Canada where it is cool. I know you said it was hot, but here in North Texas we are upper 90s sometimes 100+. 110 Fahrenheit just few days ago. You must be cooler than that. :)

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you Glenda, for stopping by and offering your support.

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

dahoglund, thank you for sharing your experience on the subject of driving. I really appreciate your firsthand experience regarding what it was like back in the 50s when people were really just starting to drive a lot.

I know my own mother was unsure of herself when driving because back then it was considered a man's privilege. If a man and a woman were traveling in the same vehicle it was rare for the woman to do the driving. For a man to allow a woman to drive was emasculating. Few men had the confidence in themselves to allow it. What would the neighbors think?

A lot of women (and men) who grew up in the Leave It to Beaver era believed that there were such things as women's work and men's work. Things that men did but women didn't or couldn't. Things that women did, but men didn't because they were demeaning to men. A few unenlightened people still believe that way.

As one of the studies I referenced pointed out, and that study has been repeated over and over again, when women are programed (taught to believe) that they are not good at something and told they won't be good at something because they are women, they tend to perform according to what they have been conditioned to believe. This is also true of men, by the way. But in this case we are talking about women.

If you are a parent, you may have discovered that children meet whatever standard you expect them to meet. If you tell a child they are stupid and useless and will never amount to anything, don't be surprised if they meet your expectations. The correlation between what is expected of children and how they are programmed is not limited to children. Adults are no different. Program them to fail, and more often than not, they will not disappoint. They will do as they were predicted and programmed to do. They will do poorly and they will fail. This applies to the spatial ability tests I referenced in this article.

For some reason people seem to believe that this article is entirely about my own opinion. I all but never write an article about my own opinion and usually leave it out. I am not presenting antidotal evidence here. Anyone who was paying attention in their classes should know that antidotal evidence is meaningless.

The statistics I have presented were collected by men and analyzed by men. Cops collected the data when they issued citations for traffic violations and made out accident reports. Insurance companies collected data when they received notice that a policy holder had received a citation or when a claim was made due to an accident.

University professors and graduate students supervised by professors analyzed the data, which they obtained from state governments and/or insurance companies. The students were graded as to how credible and accurate their work was.

When findings are published it is scrutinized by peers at research universities and other organizations all over this country. It is not allowed to stand if discrepancies are found. Insurance companies use these statistics to determine auto insurance premiums. State governments use these statistics to design highways and to determine licensing requirements, among other things.

It seems that practically everyone who commented on this article did so never having read it. Even people who have regularly read my articles in the past and know I present what I find in my research rather than my own opinions, have accused me of making these statistics up. They have attacked my references as if I got them from my neighbors here in the hood.

I, the messenger, am being tarred and feathered for daring to bring these statistics to light. If that isn't a testimony to just how sexist this country is, I don't know what is.

Men and women are not the same, and the difference is not merely anatomy or ability to reproduce. Men are known to be more violent than women generally. Men commit more violent crimes and do time for them, than women do. As stated in this article, researchers and psychologists believe the reason men are responsible for 80% of all accidents (these same numbers were the result in more than one study), because the majority of men are more aggressive, more competitive, and take more risks than women while driving.

Even when both men and women get equal training and time behind the wheel, many men let their natural traits do the driving and then there is trouble. It isn't that women never have accidents or never drive stupidly. Lots of women are terrible drivers.

Even so, men are responsible for 80% of all accidents. Terrible as some women drivers are, 4 times as many men drive worse. They let their egos take over the driving and they take irresponsible risks and push the line. That is an accident looking for a place to happen.

Thank you again for stopping by.

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you Tillsontitan, for commenting on this hub. I agree that there are good and bad drivers of both sexes, however statistics gathered by law enforcement officials shows that there is a huge discrepancy in driving skills between the sexes.

Just as men tend to be more violent and commit more violent crimes as a result of inherent male traits (or so that is the reason researchers and psychiatrists/psychologists believe), men also tend to take more risks while driving and to drive more aggressively. It is not ignorance or lack of ability that gets men into trouble generally, but their inability to control their nature.

While 80% of all documented accidents are considered the fault of men, 20% are not. The stats reflect men as a large group, nearly half the population. Without a doubt there are individual men who are excellent drivers, they just don't happen to be the majority. By the same token, there are women who should never be allowed behind the wheel of any vehicle.

Sex shouldn't matter, but there are inherent traits in both men and women that make them good at some things and not so good at others. There are also exceptions, but they are just that, exceptions. The problem seems to come in where some men believe they are exceptional and superior to women in all things. It's rare for a woman to have that attitude about herself compared to men, especially if she was born and grew up in a patriarchal society. Women are programmed from birth to accept male dominance and superiority, and most do not even realize they are acting and thinking according to that training, which is a major reason women will never truly achieve equality with men.

Men as a group are not doomed to be accident-prone when driving a motor vehicle. They can choose to be more careful, less aggressive, and less irresponsible (risk taking). When more men make that choice their accident stats will go down. Over confidence due to men believing they are superior and infallible does nothing in the way of improving safety on our streets and highways.

Ralph 3 years ago

@Au fait

"Meaning no disrespect, until about a month ago now, I had never seen even one motorcyclist who drove in a responsible way. It was a middle aged man that got my notice a few weeks ago. Since motorcyclists tend to do reckless things I paid particular notice to this man since it's my job as a CDL holder to avoid an accident even if it wouldn't be my fault."

No insult taken here. I appreciate your honest response. It sounds like you either have a lot of young dangerous riders or maybe you're not noticing the good ones. It's always the bad apples that get noticed.

That bringa me to the part about age. Unfortunately young men in their late teens and early twenties do some stupid stuff. It's not an excuse. It's just an observation. When I was in the military they were always on motorcycle riders. The reason was that a young troop with a little money could buy a sportbike that did 0-60 in less than 3 seconds and go 0ver 150 mph. Unfortunately some of them behaved irresponsibly and lost their lives.

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Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago

I probably told you when we worked together, that my hubby got his finger cut off and my car need a new fan clutch and he could not do it, so I did it. I don't think that made me a better/worse driver. I love this hub. Keep up the good work. Shared again.

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you for stopping by Jared Miles, and for sharing your thoughts. If a person could become an excellent driver simply by learning the blueprint of a vehicle, then they could probably memorize the specs (blue prints) of a 747 jet and fly that perfectly the first time too.

When I took driver's education in school we students were all required to learn the parts of the vehicle and how they worked together to make the vehicle go. The classes were small with a good instructor to pupil ratio. Girls had to pass the tests just like the boys. I guess everyone who came out of those classes should be perfect drivers because they understood how the vehicle worked . . .

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Peyton Walker 3 years ago

Great idea for an article! Thoroughly enjoyed it.

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you Paul Kuehn for your high praise. Coming from you it is truly a compliment. Thank you for voting on, sharing, pinning, and tweeting this hub!

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Shanti Perez 3 years ago from Spokane, Washington, U.S.A.

Bad female drivers can be arrogance, too. Bad male driver can be ignorance.

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you for reading and commenting on this hub Shyron, and for pinning it too. While studies have shown that women can be just as good at spatial tasks as men when living in a society that appreciates their intelligence, I think there is at least one person who has commented on this article numerous times that puts into question that men are better at math. The math involved in these studies is simple math.

Yes the total number of women in the U.S. who hold valid driver's licenses compared to the total number of men who hold valid driver's licenses at this time, is greater. Men in certain age groups may hold more valid driver's licenses than women, but overall -- that means ALL people who hold a valid driver's license, more women in the U.S. have them than men.

Further, if holding a valid driver's license was magical, there would be far fewer accidents. Most of the people who have accidents and who receive citations for moving violations do in fact have a valid driver's license. They did in fact obtain those valid driver's licenses by passing a written and a road test in the county in which they live. So, the fact that all of them passed their driver's exams apparently doesn't prevent them from making mistakes or from taking unnecessary risks, or from breaking the traffic laws. In the case of driving, it isn't so much what you know, who you know, but WHAT YOU DO.

For example, you may have a valid driver's license that you obtained by passing the written and road tests in your state, and you may even give a million dollars a year to charity. What a wonderful person you are! But believe it or not, sometimes wonderful people do ignorant things. Sometimes no matter high they scored on their driver's test and no matter how much money they give to charity, they still take unnecessary risks and still make unwise driving decisions. Then they end up receiving a citation or in a car accident. Sometimes they even end up dead. So, this proves that neither passing a driver's test with flying colors, or contributing to charity, magically makes anyone immune to traffic violations or traffic accidents.

Police officers give out citations for traffic violations and they note on the citation what that citation is for. Police officers also make out the traffic accident reports. P0lice officers determine who was driving the vehicle (male of female), and who was at fault for the traffic violation and/or accident (male or female).

Are cops lying to make men look like terrible drivers? Are cops colluding with each other, conniving to make men look like bad drivers? Or are cops just out and out lying on these citations and accident reports because it makes the day less boring?

Yes, I saw the red herring regarding those accidents that never get reported. Do people realize that not reporting an accident is against the law. Failing to report an accident that causes someone's death is a felony. We have hit and run accidents here in the U.S., and jail time for people who commit those crimes is not unusual. Believe me, higher auto insurance premiums is the least of worries for a person who is convicted of a hit and run traffic violation. It may be years before auto insurance premiums are a worry for people convicted of hit and run.

Regardless of all that, the various states in the U.S. and District of Columbia cannot include data on accidents that have no documentation. Most of those accidents are minor, which is why they go unreported. If they are serious accidents where there is major damage, serious injury, or death, I guarantee every cop will be looking for the person responsible. Once found, and they will be found, there will be an accident report made out including who the driver was and what sex that driver happens to be.

By the way, the newspaper USA Today is not a tabloid, or a tabloideze. USA Today is one of our foremost newspapers in the U.S. My references are always credible. To suggest they are not credible simply because they do not agree with Lord Romeos' wishful thinking and do not aid in his denial, is ludicrous.

Thank you for your support, Shyron!

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Ralph, thank you for stopping by. Agree with some of what you have said. There are a lot of careless drivers out there of both sexes.

The stats collected by cops and then recorded for the purposes of insurance companies, designers of highways, and people who want to do studies like the ones I referenced make it clear who is responsible for the most traffic violations and accidents. Despite wishful thinking, those people who have the most violations and accidents on their driving records are the worst drivers. At this juncture in time, cops have recorded that those people are mostly men.

Meaning no disrespect, until about a month ago now, I had never seen even one motorcyclist who drove in a responsible way. It was a middle aged man that got my notice a few weeks ago. Since motorcyclists tend to do reckless things I paid particular notice to this man since it's my job as a CDL holder to avoid an accident even if it wouldn't be my fault. I was impressed that this motorcyclist didn't dart back and forth between lanes, didn't scoot between the vehicles traveling in both lanes where the distance between them can be anywhere from 4 feet to 2 inches, and didn't attempt to speed, etc. I hope you're sensible like this man I'm talking about so that you will live to write more comments on my hubs and not have any of your important parts cut off due to taking unnecessary risks. ;)

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Kathleen Cochran 3 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

The country with the highest rate of vehicle accidents is Saudi Arabia where women are not allowed to drive. Recently there has been a movement to change that fact. It will be interesting to see what the change might do to their accident rates.

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BlissfulWriter 3 years ago

Great find on all those crazy photos.

Martin 3 years ago

@rajan jolly

"I think there are no hard and fast rules. I've seen both very good and very bad drivers of both the sexes and I am of the belief that circumstances and situations, and of course, the leeway one has had while growing up has a lot in building up this confidence, has a lot to do with the person being good at spatial skills or not."

Indians drive worse than the Paki's. It's just ridiculous. I hope you don't think six cars side by side in two lanes is normal.

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john000 3 years ago from Superior, Arizona

Well-researched and written. I found your effort eye-opening. It is ashamed that such ideas are perpetuated. I think, as you have pointed out, that the reason men look at things this way is because they are impatient and aggressive.

Being careful (as apparently most women are when driving) is interpreted as being somehow less skilled. Backing up several times to line up in a parking space will start a cursing tirade in many men. We have lots of weaknesses. Anyway, That darned testosterone, again! It has been a curse since the beginning of my life! But, I must confess, I love it.

Your quote "It would seem to come down to what Henry Ford once said, “If you think you can, or you think you can’t, either way you are probably right.” I think he was right. But, this guy was one of the greatest bigots and anti-Semitic buffoons of all time. Hmmm.... Henry had the testosterone thing, too.

Your efforts are appreciated and I vote you up, etc.

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Levertis Steele 3 years ago from Southern Clime

I am not a big statistics fan. I do not agree that women are better drivers. I think men look like worse drivers because more of them drive and are apt to show off; therefore, more male wrecks are reported. I feel more comfortable with male drivers if they are not drunk. Men are more confident and cause me to relax more. If a woman barely misses a rabbit, she will scream and scare me senseless.

If women are better drivers, why do men always get hired for a driving job over almost any woman, even the ones with muscles and cowboy boots with a matching hat?!

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Levertis Steele 3 years ago from Southern Clime

I heard of a man who hit a deer on a highway. The impact broke the windshield and landed the deer inside of the car. I imagine that space was very limited.

These pictures are hilarious, but I find it hard to believe that they are not staged. A car partially buried in a roof? Really! Wow!

Am I allowed to enjoy this hub seeing that a wreck is serious and sometimes fatal? Well, I did not see any bodies, so, I did enjoy it.

I think men are better drivers, although they are too sure of themselves and laid back. They can solve problems without getting hysterical or needing help often. BUT, women are usually more careful and watchful.

Thanks for sharing!

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rajan jolly 3 years ago from From Mumbai, presently in Jalandhar,INDIA.

I think there are no hard and fast rules. I've seen both very good and very bad drivers of both the sexes and I am of the belief that circumstances and situations, and of course, the leeway one has had while growing up has a lot in building up this confidence, has a lot to do with the person being good at spatial skills or not.

Interesting read. Voted UUI and shared.

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you for stopping by Sam ( samowhamo). Motor vehicles do indeed pollute the air and create lots of dirt and congestion and short tempers. However, you don't have to drive a vehicle to get into a car crash, you only have to ride in one.

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Diogenes, Bobby, thanks for letting me know. If you hadn't, I wouldn't have known until much later. Appreciate the warning. Big xoxo!

Glenda 3 years ago

@ R.Q.

I am glad that you read this hub. I also read it before and after the U.K. statics were added I also read the links that provided the facts.

Your comment: The penultimate one listed at the bottom of Au Fait's Hub. On this link, it says ' More US Women Than Men have a driver's license '(article dated Nov.12th, 2012 7:30p.m. E.M.T.)

My reply: I read this link and did not see where it says, 'More US Women than Men have a driver's license' (article dated Nov.12th, 2012 7:30p.m. E.M.T.) This may be the case, and if it is the case. That would be indicative of women being even better drivers. Just saying.

Your comment: This ‘ tabloidese ‘, is a misleading header – I know, because I’ve studied Journalism, Media Studies, and Shorthand at college.

My reply: tabloidese? I do not believe this hub is a tabloid. I do believe that Au fait also studied Journalism, (don't know that for sure and don’t know about Media Studies, and shorthand.) I don’t know what that has to do with this hubs content, or its title.

Anyway, I found this hub interesting and the comments interesting also.

I hope you read some more of the comments. And I hope you have a good evening/morning also.


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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

MG Singh, thank you for sharing your views on this subject. Here in the states it is not difficult to "pinpoint" who is the better driver. It is the person who has the fewest or no traffic citations and/or accidents on their driving record. Every state and every auto insurance company keeps track of that.

As for men being better drivers than women simply because you believe there are more men who drive, well, I guess that is what I have started referring to as 'man-logic.'

Just for your benefit, I researched how many women have a valid driver's license in the U.S., and how many men in the U.S. have a valid driver's license. It turns out that for the last several years the answer is more women have valid driver's license and the number continues to grow while the number of men with a driver's license in the U.S. continues to shrink.

Not only that, but it turns out that men and women in the U.S. drive pretty much the same number of miles overall every year. I have published these findings in the right side margin of this hub if you would like to check them out.

Everything is always changing Mr. Singh. That is the one constant you can depend on -- change. There is no such thing as 'always.'

For my British readers, I have added a section in this article containing the statistics on driving in the U.K. Enjoy . . .

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Brett.Tesol 3 years ago from Somewhere in Asia

This was an interesting read, from a different angle. There are many things that are referred to generally, but are often wrong ... like the opinion of the British gentleman, certainly not always true! These things are often very individual, but insurance wise and speed wise, women are often safer drivers. However, the line "Women have fewer than half as many fatal accidents as men!" should maybe rephrased, as it may be that during that time there were double the amount of male drivers too (which would make it equally as bad) ... unless I missed something?

Shared, pinned, tweeted, up and interesting.

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Cantuhearmescream 3 years ago from New York


I absolutely agree... opposites might attract, but they don't stay together. There has to be some kind of common interests or there will be too much conflict, I'm sure. I'm guessing you just need someone who has a willingness to learn and like dinosaurs... and who doesn't already like dinosaurs?

As much as you know about dinosaurs, I'm sure you've got a whole plethora of other things that you do and have interest in or knowledge about as well. There are other things you can have in common and still bring dinosaurs into her life. But yes, if she says 'Dinosaurs?' with a look of 'you're kidding me' on her face... then toss her to the curb, 'cause it'll never work... lol.

Thanks for the heads up about the new hub... I will definitely check it out!

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samowhamo 3 years ago

@ Cantuhearmescream

I hope so Cat :). I have always thought if you get into a relationship with someone you should share some of the same interests otherwise you are just getting into a relationship with nothing in common.

I have just finished another interesting hub about Mammal-Like Reptiles its in my spotlight now.

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Cantuhearmescream 3 years ago from New York


That is about the most interesting thing I've ever heard! :D Imagine... on your list of musts for prospective life partners 'Must love dinosaurs'! I love it! I have to say, you probably know more about dinosaurs than most people, but there just might be that one special someone out there for you that knows an impressive amount. Think about it this way though, you could bring a new appreciation for dinosaurs to your girlfriend and how cool would it be for you to share all of your knowledge with her? Then, from there, you could both learn more together, as her interest and fondness would be peaked! See, you have plenty of options :D

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samowhamo 3 years ago

@ Cantuhearmescream

If there is a woman out there who knows more about dinosaurs than me I welcome the challenge because I am always hungry for more info about dinosaurs and in fact I actually would be quite thrilled to meet a woman who knows more about dinosaurs than me because I don't know any women who like dinosaurs and for me that is an absolute must for a potential girlfriend or partner a woman who loves dinosaurs.

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Cantuhearmescream 3 years ago from New York

You do realize there is a reason, Au fait, while so many men are intimidated by intelligent women! ... Quite frankly, I appreciate intelligence, in either sex and it does not make me insecure about my own.

Man writes hub: 'Blah, blah, blah'. Hubbers come and they sing his praises. He sits back in computer chair, with a satisfied, "I knew they'd feel this way' look on his face. Even has an extra pep in his step for the rest of the day.

Woman writes hub: Interesting Facts, etc., on Interesting Topic. Man feels week in knees, does not know what to do with himself. 'What if the world thinks she's smarter than me?' Man gets desperate and begins debate. Man now feels smart again. lol... I'm sorry, but I've done plenty of the debatable topics and I can't say all men are the same, nor can I say that about women, but the irrational and overemotional, often offensive remarks, tend to come from the men. Period. Ugh!

Don't worry yourself about my comments... I'll be back, but I've got catching up to do myself; I know how it is!

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

I love it, Cat! Yes, you said it right. Why is anyone so obsessed with this hub? All that fartin' and snortin' like as if they were rodeo broncos with something in a winch, ya know? You know, if a valid driver's license or knowledge of a vehicle could magically keep accidents from happening and traffic violations from happening, it would be great. Strangely, most of the people guilty of both violations and accidents actually passed their driver's tests and held valid DLs. So when does the magic kick in? I'll be adding another section about UK drivers since some people want to apply the U.S. stats to England for some reason. Superior intelligence I'm sure. Man-logic. ;)

Glad you got away and enjoyed yourself and I hope you didn't think about HP for a single second. Will respond to all your comments if I ever can get to them . . .

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Cantuhearmescream 3 years ago from New York

Au fait,

Oy! I'm glad I came back, though I'm a little scared as people seem to be so angry, I must be careful to dodge the spit flying from the screaming! Geesh, I hope this doesn't affect your future writing on debatable topics... they are debatable for a reason and I'm glad you write about them. I think I understand you enough by now to know that you'll never stop writing truth, facts and just otherwise intelligent and thought-provoking hubs. You happen to be one of my hub-heroes :D

What you said is so true, as far as your response to me and I'm more irritated now just thinking about it. That's what us women are supposed to be good for... looking good, keeping care of the home, the children... feeding their bellies and other appetites and all the while, keep quite, never offer opinions and certainly do not imply that we know anything about anything! The minute we debunk a man's theory, he gets overemotional and just repeats himself, as if repetition will change the facts!

I also have to say, someone made a remark about the idea that men and their knowledge of vehicles is potential a factor to driving abilities. I appreciate his point and maybe even agree. However, I assume you know you're way around under a hood and I can say that I definitely do. I will say, I know many women don't know the first thing about what's under a hood and a good majority of men do. But, there are women that can understand how vehicles run and why and even fix some things when they're broken. Being a sponge... I've soaked up everything I can and I've also been in situations where I've had to know how to fix my car. My mother on the other hand, doesn't know the difference between a fender and a bumper... lol, but that's okay... she knows a lot about a lot of other things. I guess I'm just suggesting that there are a lot of factors involved and there will always be the exception to the rule.

At the end of the day, facts are facts... it's too bad people just don't like them!

And yes, I went away to the French Festival up in almost Canada, for the weekend, which was kind of a last minute decision. It was great to get away, but now I'm overwhelmed with how much I've missed while I was gone. I can't wait to get over that and stop beating myself up for having a life, occasionally... lol. I'm glad you noticed and cared. Thank you!


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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you Peggy W for reading, commenting, voting on, pinning, and sharing this hub! I have indeed gotten a lot of comments. ;)

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Romeos Quill 3 years ago from Lincolnshire, England

@ Glenda Jackson

Of course I’ve read this article.Perhaps you wouldn't know that, as a comment of mine was removed previously.The generic title of the Hub is not explicit, one way or the other, as to whether or not the question applies to just your country, or internationally.

But seeing as you've mentioned that, if I'm interested, I should read the driving statistics in your country, I shall do so, since Au Fait has added some extra links recently. Just read one at random again, and this is what I found:-

The link given is: The penultimate one listed at the bottom of Au Fait's Hub.

On this link, it says ' More US Women Than Men have a driver's license '(article dated Nov.12th, 2012 7:30p.m. E.M.T.).

This ‘ tabloidese ‘, is a misleading header – I know, because I’ve studied Journalism, Media Studies, and Shorthand at college. I’ll tell you why.

Re: The ‘ University Of Michigan’s Transportation Research Institute ( UMTRI )’ – gender trends in driver licences between 1995 – 2010.

It states that between 1995 and 2010, there has been an increase of the number of women drivers, stating that in 2010, the figures were 105.7 million for women, and 104.3 million for men.

All it proves, is that more women in the 25 - 29 year old age range bracket, are taking up driving. BUT, it also states between the 29 – 70 year old age range, men still ‘ dominate ‘ in this area ( the word of the article, not mine ), of attaining driver licences. So again, this article is just a manipulation of statistics for the sake of selling copy, in this case. Even though this survey actually falls in favour of the male licence holder, I personally wouldn’t accept it as truth, regardless of the result, as there are no given stats listed for drivers in the 18 – 25 year old bracket to compare either, so again, another manipulation of aforesaid statistics, for the purposes of telling/selling story. Whether the article itself is incomplete, or the University study in question has only been partially quoted in an attempt to justify the headline, is unclear.

I don’t know about you, but I think I just bored myself half to death lol!

Good evening to you;


Glenda 3 years ago

Quill! I read Au fait's hub and the only place where she mentioned U.K. was in ref to parking.

And in ref. to the site where you received the driving information (if I am interested ) Au fait gave the statistics of the states in this country, my country the only country I have ever been in. So no, I am not interested in reports from the U.K. or any other country.

If you do not live in this country, but you're interested in reading about the driving statistics in my country, read this hub.

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Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago

I see that you put the stats in here that there are more women drivers than men and the fact that more women have a license. More men have accidents and moving violations. I read in your hub that the percentage is 80 men to 20 percent women.

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Romeos Quill 3 years ago from Lincolnshire, England

@ Glenda Jackson

Dear Ms./Mz./Mrs. Jackson,

The ' Driving Standards Agency ', here in the U.K. have published pass rates for each individual county.By an overwhelming majority, the pass rates for men are HIGHER than those for women.If passing a driving test is not a fair test of a driver's ability to drive a vehicle, then I don't know what is - perhaps you could tell me.I cannot change the facts, whichever way they fall.

And regarding your remark to me; the personal comment fired from behind the parapet, and commenting upon this good lady's Hub are strangers to each attempt at humour in relation to the meds? Oh....O.K.( even though I don't take medications ) it alright with you if I laugh later? Thank you so much.

Here is the site where I received the driving information( if you're interested ) :- rates.htm

( Apologies Au Fait, for another awkward situation ).

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epigramman 3 years ago

Now that is a very interesting question for the ages to be probably never answerd in a satisfied manner.

When I write at work I often take surveys in order to stimulate the creative writing process and I remembered asking who was smarter: men or women? Well 'all' of the women said women,lol, and all of the 'men' said men, lol. I would imagine the same would apply here if you asked of either gender who was the better driver? When I'm behind the wheel I just see other 'drivers' - I never think of who it is and I've seen equal transgressions and mistakes from both sexes. For example - cellphone users behind the wheel, shame on you, and I've seen equal culprits of both men and women.

You always ask the most interesting questions in your hubs which leads to great debate and conjecture - thank you for always making me think and feel and I will most certainly post and link your provocative hub on my FB wall for all to see and read.

Sending you warm wishes on this hot summer's day from Colin, Little Miss Tiffy and Mister Gabriel at lake erie time ontario canada 2:59pm

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Cantuhearmescream, thank you cat for stopping in and sharing your experience and voting on and sharing this article.

Seems like no one has actually read it, just responding for the most part emotionally. Let me be specific, mostly men are responding emotionally and haven't actually read this article -- the very things they constantly accuse women of doing -- being overly emotional. So now we have proof that men are too emotional to hold responsible positions too! ;)

Surprised at just how personal some men took this. Here we are expected to sit and smile while they admire other women's boobs and bodies loudly right in front of us, but they sure don't smile very well do they? And this is not opinion, but the results of statistics gathered by state governments and researchers (mostly men) at universities.

Love your description of the angry men. Do they know how silly they sound arguing so emotionally, and they haven't even read this article? I know when people have not actually read my articles. They always put their foot in it, or they leave a generic comment.

Didn't see you much in the feed the last few days. Hope all is well . . .

Glenda Jackson 3 years ago

Hey Quill, have you taken your meds today? Maybe Ralph does not want to be a hubbe, does not make him something bad. The time is not right for me to become a hubbe either. Maybe sometime. But not now.

Take your meds, and go back to bed, you will feel better in the morning.

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Mhatter99, an interesting remark. Thank you for reading/sharing. :)

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you DDE, for commenting on this article and sharing your thoughts.

I agree that the stats show most men are in fact reckless drivers and take unnecessary risks, however, there are some good male drivers too, and I want everyone to realize that is true even if they are in the minority. There are also some terrible women drivers, and I have known some of them, but overall, women take fewer unnecessary risks and are less likely to insist on doing something because they have the right of way -- some people who do insist end up dead right.

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you Shyron, for sharing your experience with driving on a drag strip! Glad you like this hub. Good advice to Sam, too.

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you for commenting Aunt Jimi, and for voting and sharing this article. Just this afternoon I added information to this hub regarding how many women drivers compared to how many men drivers we have in the U.S. for anyone who thinks they know the answer to that.

Yes, I did make a point of saying that just because men are responsible for 80% of motor vehicle accidents doesn't mean that all men are bad drivers. After all, somebody else is causing the other 20% of accidents. Believe I pointed that out in at least 2 different sections of this hub.

You're right, the comments show that most of the people who made them didn't read the hub.

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Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago

I just came back Au fait, to re-read, re-share and re-pin your best hub, All are good, but this is the best by far, this one and the one about eyes saying who you are.

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dahoglund 3 years ago from Wisconsin Rapids

Putting aside the men vs women stuff, I would just like to make a few personal observations. I got my driver's license in the 1950's and was in the first age group in Minnesota to be required to take a test to be licensed. For several years I made my living by driving a newspaper motor route and at that time the area was becoming suburbanized--the country was being invaded my young newly married couples and families who were used to city ways. Most women still did not drive although my female classmates in college were having to get cars to drive to jobs, student teaching etc. The young suburban women were also having to drive to get groceries and such.

At the time I observed that some of these suburban women were not very skilled drivers and concluded that they probably did not get the full range of driving experience.

Likewise, my mother had to drive more when my father died. Truthfully she did not know such things as where and what the dimmer switch was. The worst part is that she thought she was a good driver because she had been driving for so long and probably learned to drive when she grew up on a farm and not driving in traffic.

My wife did not drive when we got married but because I had lost my eyesight for a time she had to learn. She got professional training at that time and is much more comfortable than I am on the interstates.

My observations and conclusions are that it makes little difference if a driver is male or female but driving skill is related to traing and driving experience, not gender.

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tillsontitan 3 years ago from New York

Regardless of whether you are a man or woman (your original hypothesis), some men are good drivers and some women are good drivers. The converse is also true....some men are bad drivers, some women are bad drivers. I agree sex has nothing to do with it, it is the ability to drive safely and well.

Great subject with lots of good facts Au fait.

Voted up, useful, and interesting.

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Jared Miles 3 years ago from Australia

I'd like to think that vehicle knowledge would make men better drivers, but honestly, everyone's abilities are different :) thanks for such a well-researched and educational Hub

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Paul Kuehn 3 years ago from Udorn City, Thailand

au fait,

This is another awesome, well-researched hub which is worth reading. I personally feel that women's spatial skills are just as good as men's, and that women are just as good drivers. You are absolutely correct in stating that men are much more aggressive than women when driving. Voted up and sharing with followers and on Facebook. Also Pinning and Tweeting.

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Romeos Quill 3 years ago from Lincolnshire, England

@Ralph? or whatever you call yourself(I apologize Au Fait, but this is putting us both in an awkward situation, but shall respond, even though I don't really want to - if it's a problem for you, then by all means pleases remove).

I've already written a poem for the likes of you; It is entitled, " DO I KNOW YOU? " (Wed. 8th May, 2013), and it was especially made for people like you.What's the matter Ralph? Why the anonymity? Do you have a face that only a mother could love?Be a man, grow a pair, and direct your comments to me on my page if you want to get personal, instead of acting like a ' man ', whose head seems emptier than a hermit's address book.

And you ask me to 'Grow up'? That's rich coming from someone who still rides on two wheels - We have a name for people like you over here - " Organ Donor ", as I've seen one dead myself, and eight others up the road on the hill from me are dead, the majority jack-knifed by an H.G.V. on the roundabout. Perhaps you should ' grow up ', and choose a wiser mode of transport.Worth considering, nes pa?

Ralph 3 years ago


Go write a poem and get over yourself.

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Romeos Quill 3 years ago from Lincolnshire, England

@ Au Fait. Forget that last message. I remember this fella now.This dude has been on a few times before spamming folk in the past, so I won't be wasting my breath, and giving him valuable airtime, which will be better spent elsewhere.Thanks for putting up with me.

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Romeos Quill 3 years ago from Lincolnshire, England

@ Au Fait Would it be breaching your Hub etiquette if I responded to this faceless wonder, hiding behind anonymity, who calls himself Ralph?

Ralph 3 years ago

Also, there are a growing number of female motorcycle riders. I'm guessing they see things the exact same way.

Ralph 3 years ago

@Au fait

Being a motorcycle rider can really change your perspective on driving. It made me realize that I don't trust either men or women drivers. They are both capable of doing really stupid things.

Ralph 3 years ago


Grow up.

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samowhamo 3 years ago

Thank you Au Fait. The main reasons why I don't like cars are because one they contribute a considerable portion of the air pollution we have now, two (as you said) they are too expensive and so is gas, three I sometimes get motion sick in them and four because I am too paranoid that I might get into an accident or someone might crash into me.

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you for stopping in Ralph. Motor cycles are at a decided disadvantage next to larger vehicles since they offer no protection whatever. I don't even want to think what the accident/death rate on them must be for men. :(

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you Sam (samowhamo) for checking this hub out and leaving some comments. Lots of people are choosing not to drive these days. Vehicles and their upkeep cost so much and if you have dependable public transportation that is much less expensive.

Glad the storm turned out not to be as bad as expected. We get a lot of tornado warnings here in North Central Texas too. Sometimes the storms do some pretty horrific damage and sometimes not.

You should remain scared of tornadoes. They are not to be trifled with. There is no such place where you can be close enough to actually see them and be safe too. Then it's a matter of luck and whether you're in good standing with The Boss.

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you billybuc for commenting on this issue. Unfortunately the sex one happens to be does make a difference sometimes, but I think it should have less importance than it does. After all, even though some people are better at some things they aren't good at everything. Seems to me it all balances out. Men are better at some things than women, and vice versa, and there are always a few outliers, if you understand that statistical term.

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Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago

Yeah, diogenes, she stepped on his ego.

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diogenes 3 years ago from UK and Mexico

Whoops! You done upset the Quill.


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Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago

Hubby and I went to pick-up garage door springs today, when a crazy whip by us within inches, cut in front of us by inches. Hubby said did you see what that crazy woman did. I said yes but that was no woman.

We caught up to HIM at the light, see that is no woman.

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MG Singh 3 years ago from Singapore

Its difficult to pinpoint who are better driver, men or women, but all over Asia and Islamic nations women drive much less than men or not at all and that has a bearing on the opinion that men are better drivers. Even in the USA where I spent a lot of time the majority are men drivers.

This is a nice hub, but men will always be better drivers as they drive more.

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samowhamo 3 years ago

@ Cantuhearmescream

Well thankfully the storm has passed now and we were not hit. I use to be scared of tornados but now I think it would be cool to see one from a reasonably safe distance. Well thank you for your concern Cat. :)

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Cantuhearmescream 3 years ago from New York


I'll be keeping my fingers crossed for you and I hope you aren't struck with a tornado! I can certainly appreciate what you're going through... my neighboring villages and counties are flooding and I have spent the last several days (as a member of my fire department) pumping out flooded basements and evacuating people from their homes! Today is more rain, I feel so badly for them, lucky for me... I live on a hill, but I'm guessing I'll be going out to more calls tonight!

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Peggy W 3 years ago from Houston, Texas

Interesting statistics. I always did well on spatial ability testing and can read maps with the best of them. My mother also did well on map reading and would be my co-pilot on the vacation trips we took using cars. Up votes, sharing and pinning. You should get many comments on this hub! :)

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samowhamo 3 years ago

@ Cantuhearmescream

I really appreciate that thank you. I have to keep an eye on the weather over here where I live right now its storming pretty hard and they have just issued a flash flood and tornado warning.

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Cantuhearmescream 3 years ago from New York

@samowhamo (What a name, by the way :D )

I very much appreciate that... you won't find very many men or women who can say the same! I'll have to frolic by your way and see what other wisdom you have to share :-)

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DDE 3 years ago from Dubrovnik, Croatia

Most men a reckless drivers, women on the other hand are sometimes insecure if they are new to driving with practice it gets better.

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samowhamo 3 years ago

@ Cantuhearmescream

Well I am not one of those men I believe in facts whatever they may be and if its a fact that men make up more car related accidents then women I believe it.

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Cantuhearmescream 3 years ago from New York

Au fait,

Well it's about time! Ha ha... it seems to me that it won't matter how many men read this hub, they'll still fight to their death that they are better drivers. You, being intelligent, educated, well-researched and a professional driver, I appreciate and accept your point and facts; remember the difference between opinions and facts? ;-)

I can tell you as a firefighter and EMT who I see in/causing MVA's and your hub only compliments what I've seen for myself.

I also love your whole take on the spatial awareness, how we are programmed and what we believe. Another reason why your being a driver and me a firefighter, proves your point. I could probably spend another hour just commenting and agreeing on what you've said... but I'll leave room for the angry men... lol.

Up and many others ~ Sharing too!


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Mhatter99 3 years ago from San Francisco

Very enjoyable and informative. (shared) thank you

Ralph 3 years ago

From my experience on motorcycles, I look at everyone as a dangerous driver.

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Au fait 3 years ago from North Texas Author

Thank you for sharing your man logic Diogenes. Of course being familiar with the workings of the vehicle trump being responsible for 80% of accidents and killing and maiming thousands of people every year. Any fool should know that don't you think?

Insurance companies and accident statistics kept by state governments say men are the worse possible drivers. Worst when they are young, yes, but even later they do not improve much. There is of course the odd good male driver, but finding him could be hazardous to your health . . . take care, and don't drive or walk anywhere! ;)

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samowhamo 3 years ago

Thank you for the compliment Shyron I know so much about dinosaurs that one of my uncles already considers me a scientist (even though I don't have a degree yet ha ha). I know there are other ways I can get around without a car I prefer walking and bike riding but if need be I can also hitch a ride with someone or take a cab, a plane or a train.

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Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago

Really great hub Au fait, and you are right as usual. I know when my ex bought our first car, a souped up hot rod, because he thought I would never drive it. Well guess what? I did better at the drag-strip than he did.

A note to Samowhamo, you don't have to know how to drive and you don't have to like cars. I would bet that you know more about dinasours than most men or women for that matter.

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samowhamo 3 years ago

Well I really don't care who the better driver is I will never drive I am 21 years old and have never learned how to drive I don't like cars.

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Aunt Jimi 3 years ago from The reddest of the Red states!

Great hub! I love that your friend Diogenes thinks traffic tickets, accidents, maiming people for life, or outright killing them is not important. What is important is knowing the components of the car and how they work. Superior male thinking if I've ever seen it.

And billybuc, I'm surprised at him. I would have expected him to want to educate himself on this issue, but no, machismo myth and male swagger are more important to him too. Pretty obvious that neither of these guys read your hub and they have no idea what they're talking about. But hey, men don't have to know what they're talking about, they just have to be men and that makes them automatically superior no matter if they can't tie their own shoes.

Will be interesting to see if women leave comments that show they didn't read the hub either and still don't know the answer to the question you posed! Will they write equally clueless comments? Can't wait to see. The comments on this hub may end up being more interesting than the information. Love it Au Fait! Voted up and will share.

Nothing here surprises me. It's all about male ego and the two comments above prove that even if the stats didn't.

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billybuc 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

Daddy didn't raise a fool, and I refuse to get into this's like religion and politics....there can be no winner. I think the notion is ridiculous from the get really should have no bearing on this debate, which would then make it a non-debate. :)

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diogenes 3 years ago from UK and Mexico

Men are far better drivers, one reason being they understand the mechanics of the vehicle they are controlling. Few women do. Unfortunately, men take more risks and generally speed more resulting in more accidents. But all things being equal, men are the better drivers I believe.


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