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Why Heroin Addicts Don't Recover

Can Drug Addicts Fully Recover?

They can get better. Let's lay that out there before going any further. In many cases, however, heroin addicts make repeated attempts to “get clean” that fail almost before they get off the ground.

Almost everyone has heard a heart-wrenching story of a loved one who got clean and managed to stay clean for an extended period of time before relapsing and, sadly, losing his or her life as a result.

So why is it that so many heroin addicts simply can’t recover?

The Misunderstood Nature of Addiction

Addiction takes many forms, and the word is often tossed around quite lightly. Your mother may make jokes about being "addicted" to coffee or gardening. You see television specials focused on helping young adults who are “addicted” to video games and your friends work the word in when expressing their pleasure with something, such as being “addicted” to roller coasters.

In reality, none of the above-mentioned things constitutes a true, physical addiction (and no matter how much you love shopping, you aren’t addicted to it).

True addiction comes when an individual is unable to properly function without the needed substance. While video game addicts begrudgingly take time off from gaming to attend school or go to work, heroin addicts are still snorting, smoking, or shooting their chosen substance no matter what.

Do other addictions exist? Yes. Can they really compare? No.

The Longer the Addiction, the Harder It Is to Break

Any ex-smoker will tell you that the longer a person smokes, the harder it is to quit. The same principle can be applied to heroin use. This is because daily activities become ingrained into your daily life. Physical addiction aside, the brain is a powerful weapon. Feed it with a highly addictive substance, such as regular opiates, and it will turn on you, ready to devour your very psyche in an effort to get more.

High vs. Normal: An Unfair Fight

Most people who try heroin do so for a simple high and they achieve it, but at a cost. Once the body becomes accustomed to opiates (and this occurs extremely quickly), it will revolt if the drugs stop coming. The end result? Heroin addicts must shoot, snort, or smoke even more heroin simply to feel normal.

Failing to get a “fix” leaves a heroin addict physically sick and psychologically tormented. They cannot function either psychologically or physically past a certain point. Sure, we’ve all seen the withdrawal videos of heroin addicts shaking and sweating while their bodies detoxify, but try and imagine what the addict is experiencing. Think you’ve got it? You don’t. The drug is so powerful, so demanding, that it strips the user of his or her sense of self. It's more powerful than self-respect, fear, pride, and the love an individual has for his or her friends, family, or children.

How Heroin is Made

Heroin is processed by adding acetic anhydride to simple morphine and bringing the substance to a boil. As the compounds coalesce, the raw heroin will sink.

Morphine and heroin are similarly addictive substances. Believe it or not, there are quite a few Americans out there running around addicted to morphine, but most of them have jobs that allow them access to the drug. Heroin is much, much easier to come by than morphine, which is closely controlled.

Opiates for Heroin Detox

Drug treatment centers offer a myriad of heroin detox methods to help addicts reduce the pain of withdrawal. The fact that a lucky few manage to quit the drug “cold turkey” makes it easy to point fingers and blame relapses on each individual’s lack of strength and motivation. In reality, all bodies are different and process toxic substances in different ways. What didn’t get a full hold on one person's brain could have driven another person to insanity.

Methadone is usually the drug of choice for heroin addicts. This reduces the need for a “fix,” although cravings may still occur. Methadone can be used either permanently for “maintenance” or tapered over time as part of a slower detoxification program. The only problem with this method is that methadone is, in and of itself, an incredibly addicting substance.

There are also other detox methods and pharmacological treatments to consider, such as opioid agonists and antagonists or rehabilitation.

Heroin Withdrawal Can Kill You

Before you decide to tie your loved one to a chair and just force him to detox on his own, thinking he’ll thank you later when he’s clean (yes, people do this), you should remember that for serious addicts, withdrawal can be just as much of a death sentence as remaining on the drug.

In the event that such an unorthodox detox were successful, there’s still no guarantee that the individual won’t relapse. Ridding his physical system of opiates doesn’t rob his brain of the knowledge of what heroin can do. Just like a smoker who remembers what it's like to smoke a cigarette after abstaining for a while, the heroin user may seek out additional drugs as a way of reclaiming that high.

After awhile, heroin users don’t use because they want to. The pleasant feeling that once accompanied the drug is muted by the body’s overwhelming need to have opiates merely to feel normal. Detoxing can bring the high back. Thus, detoxification can, in itself, provide the former heroin addict with motivation to return to the drug.

Advice for Family Members

If you’re the friend or family member of a heroin addict, all you can do is encourage the person to get clean, be as supportive as possible, and stay out of the way. No one who gets clean by force or overwhelming pressure is going to stay clean. As heart-wrenching as it is, that person has to want to rid themselves of the heroin before they can ever do so, regardless of their families' pleading.

What you can do, however, is practice a bit of tough love. Some addicts need to hit rock bottom before they can begin to scramble back to the surface. The longer you hand out a free ride, the longer the user will remain a “comfortable user.” Sure, the addict is in less danger than if he were on the streets, but the longer he uses heroin, the harder it will be for him to shake the habit.

If the addict has children that live with him or her, you absolutely must notify the local police department or children's services of the user’s addiction. Regardless of how good a parent he or she claims to be, the smallest bit of heroin left on a paper or in a syringe can and will kill a small child. If your loved one were in his or her right mind, rest assured you’d be thanked. Even if you can’t save the addict, you can take steps to save the addict’s children.

My Opiate Experience

First, let me state that I have never been addicted to heroin, never even tried the stuff. I haven’t lost a friend or family member to it and I hope I never do. While researching heroin addiction, however, I found myself completely blown away by the sheer magnitude of what this drug can do to families. If you aren’t convinced, let me tell you my story.

I have a natural narcotics immunity. I didn’t discover this until I was 19 and landed myself in the hospital. I’d had a kidney stone that I didn’t seek medical help for because I didn’t have insurance. The pain was regular, constant, and sometimes debilitating. I self-medicated when I could with vodka and cranberry juice—a remedy suggested by, and supplied by, my grandmother, with whom I was living at the time. She couldn’t afford to send me to the doctor and I never told her how bad the pain really was.

After several weeks, one night the pain was so bad I couldn’t draw breath to scream. I literally crawled out of my room and was rushed to the hospital. I was given large quantities of various intravenous narcotics, none of which worked. The doctor on call declared that I must be a drug addict to not respond to any pain medicine. I didn’t hear this because I was hurting too much. I was in school and trying to get an education. I wasn’t doing any drugs—not even the recreational pot smoking my friends were doing.

My sister arrived later that morning. Being a nurse, she was furious that I never told her about the pain and she managed to explain to me that some people just have a natural immunity to narcotics.

The only thing that worked was morphine. The first time the staff gave it to me, I didn’t feel it. I was screaming. I thought I was dying. (I was. My heart stopped sometime later and they managed to revive me). After a second dose of morphine, however, the pain went away. I felt it go into my bloodstream like thick, hot coffee. The heat then rushed across my face and torso like a cloud and the pain was gone. There was no sense of being “high” and I got no pleasure from it, but the pain was finally gone.

I was in the hospital for a week, receiving morphine intermittently when the pain got bad. I was on a steady morphine drip. I had to remain in the hospital to give the powerful antibiotics time to take effect. The last day I opted for ibuprofen rather than morphine because I was petrified of getting hooked on it. I knew very little about addiction, but I knew enough to worry.

The day after I got home, I got sick. Very sick. I didn’t know what was happening to me. I had no idea that I was withdrawing from the morphine. It was one of the worst feelings I can remember. I was nauseated, too lethargic to move, and, perhaps worst of all, I felt everything was pointless. My body vacillated between sweating and freezing. My terminally ill father put me on his oxygen machine, thinking it would help. I would have done just about anything to make the pain stop. None of us realized it was actually a very mild opiate withdrawal.

And then it went away and I got better and moved on with my life. It wasn’t until an accident six years later landed me back in the hospital on a morphine drip for several days and the scenario repeated itself that I realized what actually happened.

Considering my high tolerance for other narcotics and the very brief period of time that my body was exposed to the opiate, I can only begin to imagine what the withdrawal experience must be like for a heroin addict. Remember, heroin is more powerful than morphine.

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SteveoMc 6 years ago from Pacific NorthWest

Wow! What a nasty thing this drug is. I have several close encounters that were terrible. I will spare the details but, it is so baffling an addiction, it is hard to comprehend.

I never have had any personal experience with the stuff, but clients, friends, and acquaintances. Those videos are incredible.

Thanks for sharing and enlightening.


Alana 5 years ago

Very interesting article. I thought I'd comment as an ex-heroin user (I shot up 5-10x daily for all four years of college, with intermittent periods of abstinence). Many people find heroin extremely addictive, but some, such as me, do not. Like you, I've had chronic kidney stones (sometimes every month) since I was 14. Although I had ever drank or used drugs, doctors always made me feel like a drug seeker in the ER, since they don't see a lot of young people with kidney stones. being treated like this was absolutely infuriating, and I eventually decided I'd treat my pain without medical supervision. I did some research on opiates, and discovered that diamorphine (heroin) was only 3x potent as morphine, and I'd been given MUCH stronger narcotics in the ER. I'd never gotten high off opiates or enjoyed them due to the side effects, but kidney stones aren't something easily ignored. After thinking it ove, I set about procuring some heroin and figuring out a therapeutic dose in mg, and when I first did it, I didn't understand why anyone who wasn't in severe pain would choose this! I soon got used to the side effects, but the pain control stayed and it cost me $8.00/daily for 4 years, which was less than 20% of what it would cost for me to go to a doctor (and I was uninsured), and not even have my pain managed. During my time as a heroin user, I maintained a 3.8 GPA, participated in normal life, and nobody ever suspected a thing, because I did not fit the stereotype of a junkie. Withdrawal was pretty awful, but much less excruciating than I'd anticipated (a kidney stone is WAY more painful). When I got out of college, and was able to afford health insurance w/in a year, I started a kidney stone prevention program, and have only had two stones since (for which I was prescribed narcotic analgesics for a short time).

It's been 4.5 years since I last did heroin, and I don't have any desire to go back to it, as I don't have kidney stones all the time, and when I do, I can afford quality medical care. I'm married and working on my doctorate, and I'm relatively open about my past heroin use. There are many secret, functional heroin users who carefully conceal their habit, but mainstream society makes it seem as though anyone who uses heroin will INSTANTLY become a dirty, homeless junkie with AIDS. And people who say they can't quit heroin would be able to if they really wanted to. Withdrawal is bad, but you'll do it if you are dedicated to staying off it. Most importantly, heroin does not change your moral compass, and people who lie, cheat and steal (which I never did), and say that heroin was responsible for their behavior are making excuses for their own lack of character.


Anita 5 years ago

I am the mother of a heroin addict. Until my son became an addict, I did not realize the effects that an addict had on their family or the effect the heroin has on the addict. My son is not even the same person on heroin. It is the most devastating thing I have ever experienced and I would not wish it on anyone. My son is going to a physician today to try to get help and he has gotten help before but did relapse. I always remain hopeful that he will be able to kick this terrible addiction and I believe he is a strong young man and I believe he can do it. My biggest concern is that there is not more help out there for heroin addiction. It seems unless an addict has a job and insurance that no one wants to see them or even try to help them. This is so unfortunate in that most heroin addicts are not working and do not have insurance. My son has lost his job due to the addiction and though he has voiced that he wants to get help he cannot find anywhere to go that is not so expensive that he can afford it. I also feel there is not enough focus on heroin addiction and too much on marijuana addiction. Heroin is so much more dangerous to the addicts and the families than the marijuana so when everyone is so excited about a big bust on marijuana it almost angers me because the real problem is heroin and pills such as oxycontin yet the focus seems to remain on marijuana. I do not agree with the comment that heroin does not change your moral compass. I believe it absolutely does. My son does not have the same morals at all when he is on heroin or looking for it and I can't believe that someone would make such a comment. It absolutely changes your moral compass. I have seen that firsthand. I will continue to support my son and pray that he gets the help he needs as I do for all addicts and their families.


Heroin Recovery 5 years ago

Wow.. This is one of the most detailed articles about heroin that I have seen! If your still thinking of experimenting with opiates after reading this.. Don't. I was addicted to heroin for 14 years and Once you realize that you need it just to function, it's too late. It took everything that I had. I learned the hard way.


John 5 years ago

This was a very informative show. I want to compliment you. By bringing this out maybe you get to save a few people from going down that road. One thing I must say. To the commenter named Alana, Your situation was far from typical. As a matter of fact you are one of a very, very small group that can boast of an experience like that. Most heroin addicts do not start out as liers and thieves. or prostitutes. It is the drug that turns them into these types of people. To say it doesn't change your moral compass is to say that every heroin abuser wanted to become prostitutes, or thieves or to lie to there families. And to want to hurt the people they love.I am sorry but you need to get a clue. Because you do not have one when it comes to making a statement like that. And Yes I am talking from experience. When I became addicted to heroin, Which was after several years of prescription drug abuse. I was far from a lier, cheat,& Thief. This sickness took me to places I would never have gone to as a straight or sane man. The depths I went to in order to chase the sickness away, Were deeper and darker than any I ever went to before or want to go to ever again. I guess what I am trying to say is that this drug would make even the most moral of men lie and steal if that is what they had to do to get there next fix.


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Captain Spaceman 5 years ago from Manhattan Beach

Very powerful story, and some solid facts to back it up. But you seem to have the opinion that recovery is an impossibility for an addict. I don't think this is entirely true.

People have been known to move on from opiates and lead completely normal lives. It's all a matter of how badly they want to stop and get clean. And trust me...every die hard heroin addict wishes nightly that they could kick their habit and just be happy.

But unfortunately if wishes were horses then beggars would ride, it takes more than just "wanting" to quit


discourged 5 years ago

lets see before i started using heroin i would of never of thought about walking into a store and demanding money from the cashier or walking in to someones house just to see what i could get money for nor would i lie to the people i love... It started with oc's and went straight to hell i have been trying to beat this for two years now ive been addicted for six ill have periods where i go 3-6 mos but never any longer ive already lost every thing but the people i care about but for some reason i just keep hurting them when i know that all there doing is trying to help i don't know what it is about this drug that just makes you go crazy when you cant get it i don't like the person that i have become and afraid of the man who lies ahead if i cant kick this you think that a little child a loving wife and family that support you would be enough but its not for some reason ive been trying to get into a rehab and they will tell me we will have a bed tomorrow but its true tomorrow never comes when you don't have insurance or 9000$ so many speak ill of addicts when they should be blaming the lack of help for addicts you see these people just like you ran down the wrong road but when they try to right the wrong they find that its easier for them to continue to use because its cheaper less stress full and easier then finding someone to help them i know your supposed to put the same effort into getting clean as you did into using so are they saying that you should continue to steal and lie to get my life on track aging just like being addicted to heroin you become addicted to the lying and stealing it become a compulsion an urge just like the heroin i want to be a good man for my family but every where i turn i get sent away even from county funded programs because they're to full to help anyone else i know that i did this to myself but now i want the support and help of someone that knows what there doing so i don't go back agin i want to get away from this dark passenger and never look back if someone know where to turn to for help please let me know i want a great life for my child and i cant do it stoned all the time


Lisa 5 years ago

To all those individuals who are addicted to heroin, chant NAM-MYO-HO-RENGE-KYO, morning and night to give you hope and freedom. To make you strong and to give you courage. Thank you.


Pam 5 years ago

My daughter is an active herion addict. This has been a nightmare for the last 13 years. it was first cocaine and has grown now to herion. She has been shooting up for at least four years. She has beeen in rehab five times. the last time was for 6 months in a Christian based rehab. MY daughter has a daughter that is 2 1/2. I wonder if she will be around to see her grow up.. She was on methadone while she was pregnant and then when the baby was three months old she starting using herion with the methadone until she was arrestedd.

This has been a nightmare. I don't know how to live with this stuff and can't shut my daughter out of our lives. She stays with friends for days and says she is trying to detox. But it is another lie. I have threatened all of her so called friends with calling the police if any one gives her drugs. I guess they all think I am nuts. But there needs to be more arrests made to people for homicide if they are selling drugs and someone dies.

My daughter has said she will go to detox on Monday .. We will see. She was using two weeks after she got out of the 6 month program so I am not feeling too much hope.


sad J 5 years ago

I am sitting outside of an e.r. rite now in my car. I have been here for the last two and a half hrs. I am having a lot of trouble breathing, heavy chested, especially around the heart along with a feeling that my heart is somehow clogged, and the top of my throat has felt like it is closing almost shut for the last 3 hrs. I have been shooting bad heroin and JUST WANT TO STOP!!!! My last dose was at 10 and it is now 130. I didn't get high because I am at the point where I am using just to survive. I use a gram and a half a day of brown rock heroin. I just turned 22 two days ago and it was the worst birthday of my life the whole time I was on heroin but cudnt get high. It was a very miserable and depressing day. I can't decide if I shd go in or not cuz I kno if I do there will probly be legal repercussions since they told me after my 15th time here because of o.d. this spring that they would notify the police if it happened again. I have been addicted for a yr but started back up a month ago. I went thru the summer and early fall four months clean due to suboxone. I am most worried to go in because of the narcan I kno they will inject into me and I kno how bad it hurts to get that wen yur body has been getting a gram and a half per day everyday. I have myself girlfriend and parents in tears on a daily basis although my parents are strong enough that they cry behind closed doors. They do this because they are soooo good to me and such great parents and I feel soo terrible to be letting them down and getting re-addicted agn and even worse. They say wen the beast kums back it kums back worse and boy were they right!!! Please If anyone is reading this who is not alrdy addicted to heroin but is thinkn about using it or is using it but not addicted yet. Stop NOW DO NOT USE PLEASE LEARN FROM MY MISTAKES DO NOT LEARN THE HARDWAY HEROIN IS SUGARCOATED PAIN IT BRINGS COMPLETE DESTRUCTION TO THE LIVES OF ALL OF THOSE WHO GET ADDICTED AND STATISTICS SAY IT WILL SOONER OR LATER KILL MOST OF IT'S POOR ADDICTS LIKE IT SEEMS IT IS ABOUT TO KILL ME RITE NOW! PLZ ANYONE READING THS STOP USING RITE NOW!!! I am going into the e.r. now I can't take it anymore and don't wana die n the parking lot of the e.r.

Jared


paola 5 years ago

As heartbreaking as some of your stories are, the facts are the facts, I don't think people that have been using for a long time will ever kick the addiction, the real problem of this is the aftermath of the closest family members....how can you explain to the wife of a 1o year heroin addict that she needs to let go...or she will never be happy or have a normal life?? because their ignorance leads her to believe that if he wants he can get rehabilitated. wich is not true, because it takes more than just simply wanting to stop. your body is already addicted so it needs more than a want to feeling. getting into methadone is just as bad and if cold turkey could kill the addict, then, what is the solution to the problem?????


katie 4 years ago

Jared I will pray for you :( I hope it all worked out for you:)...I have never been addicted to any drug but right now I amdealing with one of my best friends who is heavily addicted to heroin..it is amazing how it literally controls their lives..all I can do is be there when she really needs me and pray for her constantly..please I am sure many people who will read this have different faiths but I truly believe there is nothing God can't do but of course it is up to the persons free will to surrender to him and watch how God works :) with love to all be strong and I hope you find your way to stopping this horrible addiction that has consumed so many lives....


Rissa 4 years ago

I'd just like to say I'm a recovering heroin addict, coming up on one year of complete and total sobriety. AA and an outpatient rehab is working pretty darn well for me. But it's working because I'm doing it for myself, and I'm finally getting honest with myself.

I found the "Heroin withdrawl can kill you" line a little misleading, as the physical withdraw itself cannot kill you, unless you have a really bad heart. Benzo and Alcohol withdraw can kill you however. And technically you can get addicted to caffeine, the body becomes somewhat dependent on it and if you stop taking in caffeine you get headaches, irritablity, etc. Same with pot surprisingly enough. I get what you're saying though, that these kinds of addictions are nothing compared to heroin. I went through countless attempts at getting clean until I got into a treatment program where I was given suboxone. I was still batshit crazy of course, until I found a AA. For everyone here, keep in mind that we started using heroin as a solution for something. If we take out the heroin without replacing it with some other solution, we will undoubtedly go back to heroin or some other drug. I found my solution in my higher power, which sounds hokey, but hey it works.


JonB 4 years ago

As a heroin addict of 3 years (and heavy drug user for 15) I can honestly say that in my experience all the scumbags involved are scum on or off the gear and people with strong morals can get away without stealing and scaming. Having said that users eventually WILL suffer because of their habit, it's a matter of time and trust me rock bottom hurts.


Ωωεη G 4 years ago

""JonB 7 days ago

As a heroin addict of 3 years (and heavy drug user for 15) I can honestly say that in my experience all the scumbags involved"""

can u say jaded - i met a girl in VAN who is a H addict-

she is the most wonderful amazing person i have ever met.

i may - try to help her -

i am going to phone her now - just to say high


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SoberNation 4 years ago from Boca Raton, Fl

I understand that you did your research and you did write a great article. But is this something you feel can truly say without having experienced it first hand? Please check out my hubs for some pieces on addiction and recovery. Thanks for the hub


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caroline2know 4 years ago from the MIDWEST for now

take it from the top -PLEASE AFTER ALL THESE POSTS,

I ASK= ?Heroin Addicts ?can they recover?

i'm engaged to an addict~opiate dependent for 10years~ & no i am not a drug user- i met him through a friend-i was in grad school-i offered him refuge to 'clean up' which in overview, didn't help- this addiction escalated in the 4 years i know him.

he is in a makeshift rehab joint currnelty= it is outpatient, with only social workers[no Dr, psychologists or true therapists with credentials=NO-only social workers]. this rehab grants "certificates of completion/graduation" after 3 months..?is this rehab? this is usual? they talk with all at once- a group of folk in their teens to folk in their 40s; all participants have a variety of addictions~only commonality IS they have addictions that someplace or someone wants/needs them to get help- and in odd cases, the individual initiates for his/herself =this rehab joint provides locales with quick treatment, so, for example, they can go to court and show that they completed rehab ~ hopes the courts will then give them rights back to raise their kids.

i pose this true question ?under this guidance ? heroin addicts ?can they recover here? is this adequate?

i have true concern that this does only a mere fraction--an intro to heroin addiction and recovery? should i trust he will come back a better man? and now have new values? why should this certificate be reflective of himself as a better man- like someone who wants to be honest? and try to take care of himself and his sons and me? i have doubts this is sufficient rehab for a forty year old guy with a ten-year, heavy-use opiate addiction [ and before that- meth and alcohol addict]. i love this guy and his boys, but reality puts on the table the truth that he hasn't held job since before i new him ~has anger problems and drug fogginess [that resulted in his being fired/suspect for drug use]. he has probs with cops- been incarcerated for 2violence cases, and recently found in public with a warrant for not attending a criminal case pretrial hearing. currently has 2 other warrants for skipping out court dates-thus, fled the state- left behind his boys and then me= yes we are still engaged= IS HE likely to recover?

What's the guess from any one with real experience that is SIMILAR- please, what does life experience say?

.. so now he lives with his mom- he is /has been in an outpatient rehab joint where they uses 'herd mentality' advice= i think recovery needs individualized components- and separate programs for different addictions- and an emphasis on on lifestyle changes- always being willing to reflect and be honest- and seek help if relapse is haunting. so ~heroin addicts?~can they recover?


cj 4 years ago

My daughter is a heroin addict. She has been an IV addict for almost 4 years now. % times in rehab and 15 times in detoxing. she cant quit and her friends tell her don't even try. She now has 2 felonies over it. I have lost all hope. She has stolen, stripped, panhandled, and whatever i don't know about. Now, she is living and dating her heroin dealer for drugs. I got a text from her today "I cant quit. I will just end up disappointing you guys again" she has tried to quit 15 times now. I havnet seen in her 6 months now due to the fact that i almost lost my life over it and cant do it anymore. I HAVE LOST ALL HOPE MY DAUGHTER WILL SURVIVE THIS ADDICTION!!!!!

I agree with a previous post. There isn't any help for heroin addicts. Most don't have jobs and if they do its dealing or selling there bodies. They have state insurance and its HARD to get into detox or treatment and if you do you can only do 2 months max. Heroin addicts need more than a year.


Addict 4 years ago

Im addicted to heroin and it's horrible I try to stop so many times but I just keep running back to it :( I have to hide it from my wife and I feel like shit. Of course it started with Oxycodone. Every time I quit I start using again because it's just so good. I am about to do another bag right now screw it


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caroline2know 4 years ago from the MIDWEST for now

Reply to the ADDICT post & "about to do another bag"..

hi! i DO APPRECIATE the YOU ARE HONEST - [you have to hide it from your wife?] and feel like shit. You are expose raw truth here in a post: so, do you think if she knew the truth, she would stand by you and THEN you may seek hard-core rehab? or is the addiction more like an affair? and if so~?this romance has a love-rush like no other? just curious- i haven't ever touched H- but heard it taken[he 1st hid in the bathroom and snorted it] and seen it in its symptoms once moved to iv shooting[red face, dry mouth, not look me in the eyes]=i ask and sometimes he tells the truth[i always try peace, love n understanding]..so many years. now in out-of state rehab [for 1month so far], and JUST talked to him= he is drunk while i write.k. from my good friend

when? one says:

Clowntime is over: Time to take cover, while others just talk and talk,

somebody's watching where the others don't walk.

A voice in the shadows, says that his men know, he don't step back as expected,

he's otherwise and unprotected.

Almost too good to be true…

[Who do you? Why do you? What do you do?]

While everybody's hiding under covers, who's making lover's lane safe again for lovers?..............................


paula kyle 4 years ago

I was on heroin and crack for 12 years now been clean for nearly 4 years have a new house,life ,friends and work in the drug and alcohol services I believe what you have wrote is partly negligent giving addicts no hope to even attempt a recovery. There,s plenty of us living our lives and at last getting a chance to appreciate what we now have. If your still alive there,s still hope that things can change.


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caroline2know 4 years ago from the MIDWEST for now

hi Paula, in my last post, i admit i have over-generalized and there is HOPE- i agree. i am truly happy for your success and understand how you could read what i last posted as "partially negligent"= please except my apology to you.

i however have know folk who died from being addicted. i am still engaged to a man who has used opiates for 12 years[methadone, oxycontin,H,suboxone and back to H~ and before that he was drinking booze and using meth-[in other words been and addict since age 12 and now is 42= so], 30 years an addict yet i do support him.

i have had friends whom i was introduce to me through my partner, and these friends died from o.d.s- 4 in the last 1 year-[ when outta rehab they relapsed and crashed].

it took2 o.d.s for my partner to finally admit he needs care for himself - [then be able to help his young sons as well].

.. i also am close to my brother in San Fran who directs an inpatient facility w/n a major SF hospital= he has a PhD in psych, and since a director- does not need take clients - but he does because he is passionate at helping tailor programs to the client's needs- and he does care- he says if he only gets thru to 1 in every hundred- that is better than zero.

sounds like addiction is similar to cancer- people need individual assessment- time, duration, intensity/drive and history of lifestyles/ for how long behavior occurs [and root causes w/ addiction are generally psychological. says rehab psychologists/drug therapists know the odds particularly in congruent to the factors - all are parts of the whole in assessment.

there is a preponderance of people who [even though they want so much to 'clean up' ~ simply come up empty when it comes to actualizing and continuing lifestyle changes- and w/ opiates the rates of success for new life w/no relapse or such is more the exception than the rule.


Ray A 4 years ago

I was a heroin addict for close to 30 years, with no veins left and close to death. In Jail at 45 years old I was introduced to Narcotics Anonymous and tho it took a year and one last try at control, it has now worked wonderfully for 19+ years of wonderful recovery.

It's the only thing that works, medicine, religion, psychiatry, none of these methods are sufficient.

The cold hard Truth is - without a program heroin addicts WILL die from their disease. WELL over 95% of heroin addicts will die from it. ALL my junkie friends are dead. And methadone or the other substitute drugs are NOT a program and will not save the life of a heroin addict.

The lie is dead - we do recover, but without a program such as NA we will certainly die from our addiction. ALL my friends are dead - I live Happy, Joyous, and Free. I have a new wife, family, my first child, I travel, I live my dreams and my "bucket list" is complete.

After over 19 years - I still attend meetings 3 or more times a week and always will.

Thank you Narcotics Anonymous.

If you have a family member or loved one - the ONLY hope for them is NA and anyone that tells you different has a vested interest in telling you that, and it simply isn't true.

Ray is not my real name - I have no motive other than helping because no addict need ever die. I pray for addicts to find Narcotics Anonymous - the ONLY place you find happy endings for addicts.


caroline 4 years ago

i admire you- thank you for sharing- and NA being a HOPEFUL HELP- thank you!


Heather 4 years ago

Thank you for how truthful your article is. No one can truly understand how bad it is to withdrawal from opiates and being addicted to them unless you have been through it personally. It's the worst feeling in the world. Every part in this is true, even losing your "sense of self". The effects opiates have on the brain screws up so much of the body's natural harmony, and even though it seems to numb what ever problems one might have, it completely takes away every part of a person, bit by bit.


lj777 4 years ago

Is heroin a death sentence? I have lived by my 30 year old sons side for 4 years trying everything I could to get him help. I am looking the devil in the eye and we are having a hell of a fight. I want my beautiful son back and like all of the users that have posted here, I get you and I understand your pain. I KNOW YOU WOULD ALL GET CLEAN IN A HEARTBEAT IF YOU ONLY COULD. A week from today my son will leave for Thamkrabok Monestary in Thailand. Look them up. They work with addicts and have an incredible tract record. It sure is cheaper than all the rehabs here (FREE). There is no more help for him in the USA, we have spent everything and the USA rehabs have a 2% success rate with heroin, yet they take our money don't they???? Suboxone, Subutex and Methadone are just another drug and another drug does what? Users inject these drugs every single day. I can be reached at l.jenson@yahoo.com and if this helps my son, even for a few years, then that is that much more time I have with him. You can email me anytime and I will let you know how this goes. May GOD TRULY BLESS all of you that have become addicts because I know you never meant too. Keep fighting, you can win. Please, I am not trying to promote this place until I know, just what we are going to try, because we are at the end of the road.


Matt 4 years ago

This is the gayest article i have read. It makes a point that any half brain idiot knows. Heroin hurts families.. What a waste of time


RYAN 4 years ago

I cant believe somebody said that heroin addiction doesn't change your moral compass, but that it is an excuse for qualities that prexisted. You sir are seriously misinformed. And their experience, if a true story, is an aberration. Anyway, this a decent piece for someone who isn't an addict. But there is rwally only so much one can offer for advice unless yo

uve been in the grips of addiction, as well as the process of recovery. But...YOU CAN NOT DIE FROM THE ACTUAL PROCESS OF DETOXING FROM OPIATES.

I do agree that it is a spiritual void that creates addiction. Drug abuse is actually the symptom of a much deeper issue. Although everybodys recovery works differently. People that say that NA and AA are the only way it works are being very narrow minded. The programs are great for many people. But recovery is possible without it. The universal necessity is support systems and an undying dedication to get healthy. Chase your sobriety harder than you chased your drugs. In my experience, opiate addiction ruined my life in my 20s. I have been in recovery for 3 years and it has been a struggle. Relapse, prgram, therapy, etc. But i have slowly started to care about living and beyond my fix. I have a job, i have my family back, i write for a blog, i stay physically active, i read self help and spiritual material. There is a light at the end of the tunnel. But i realize that i am far from xured. And prepared for the possibility that i never will be.

I stumbled across this article because i still need to remind myself of what can happen. Today i am grateful for my family and proud to feel that i am on a journey to live a real and fulfilling life.


lisa 4 years ago

All the talk of narcotics is making me sick. Drug users whose sole purpose is to escape reality is a true excuse of weakness in which I have no pity. I am going blind and im not smoking or injecting drugs to escape this horrible affliction. Its ridiculous to think anyone could possibly want to escape reality more than me. Going blind is the most devistating and depressing thing I think a human can go through. Hearing all this crap about how much life sucks or how bad life is just an excuse to be a selfish self absorbed addict. Its bullshit, not to mention the FUCKING HELL your families and true friends(those that rnt addicts) have had to endure. I have no sympathy for you . It is spreading aids and hepatitis throughout our community. Innocent people that have come into contact with your body fluids are given an incurable death sentence. That in my opinion is just as serious as murder. This whole thing of supporting your addicted family members is fucking ridiculous. Get a fucking grip and stop making everyone around you suffer.


^^^^ 4 years ago

^^^^ stop being such a whore lol


Omar 4 years ago

You can not die from heroin withdrawal! It may feel like your dying, it's the worst flu you will ever have! Been dope free for 2 years now. I still think about it daily.


Patrick L 4 years ago

Lisa, I must first say that us addicts didn't one day wake up and say "i want to do drugs and ruin the lives of everyone around us". Yes its a choice to do them, but we have a sick diesese, a dieses that not only kills us and destroys our lives, but the people around us. We, well this is coming from my experience, get so wrapped up in our drug use that we addicts don't even realize that we are hurting everyone arround us, let alone ourselves. This is the one dieses that tells us that we don't have a dieses. Its cunning, baffling, and very powerfull. Us addicts don't ask for "SYMPATHY", in your words, but we do ask for SUPPORT because we definatly cant do this on our own, atleast i cant, i cant speak for everyone. But like my counslers said, "you have to be an addict to truly understand an addict". Im sorry you feel the way you do. Im not asking that you give sympathy for the next addict, but i do ask that you keep an open mind. Oh by the way, Im Patrick L, Im 18 years old, and im a greatfull recovering addict from cleveland Ohio.


lj777 4 years ago

Lisa,

You do not understand heroin at all or you would not say the things you do. WHAT THE HELL DOES GOING BLIND HAVE TO DO WITH BEING ADDICTED TO HEROIN? Perhaps you are posting in the wrong area. Blind and bitter, may you find peace.


David Riutta 4 years ago

Man your article was good! One fellow said it doesn't affect your moral compass. But he is very very wrong it will rob you of all your morals. That's what addiction does!


Stewblue 4 years ago

blind and bitter!!! hahaha

Anyway people such as her are simply displacing their anger onto a predictable target in order to raise their self esteem and host a fabulous PITY PARTY FOR THEMSELVES. You stupid asshole. This is a forum for people to discuss addiction and all that surrounds it. How would you like it if I went into your forum for the blind and started complaining that blind people don't know what it's like to suffer because it's just your eyes? Are you honestly that ignorant and lonely because if you are we are here for you. You can hate us and look down on us all you want but everyone here is either making a MAJOR life change for the better or aiding their loved one in the hellish journey that is recovery. So if you need support I'm sure anyone here would help you in a second because we've been to the fucking bottom of the barrel. We've prayed for death and lived for pain. I feel truly sorry for you and your affliction. I couldn't imagine a world without color. I'm sorry you are so bitter that you have been "shafted" in the game that is life. it's a sick and twisted game some win some lose but we are not to blame. No one is. You just suck it the fuck up and deal. and like ^^^^ said...STOP BEING SUCH A WHORE IF YOU DON"T HAVE ANYTHING NICE/NEUTRAL TO SAY THEN FUCK OFF


Anonymous 4 years ago

You certainly make a lot of claims that are false.

1. Heroin addiction IS like other addictions: smoking, gambling, sex, etc. are all physical reactions to outside stimuli. Heroin / all addicts in general (trust me, I have lots of experience) LOVE to feel "different", "worse" or "better" than anyone. That's a game of sympathy from others. Sounds more like a spiritual problem to me.

2. Heroin withdrawal will kill you: That's just medically inaccurate. The only withdrawal that may prove potentially fatal are alcohol and barbituates. Period. Heroin withdrawal will be painful, yes, but opiates are surprisingly easy on the body physically complared to other drugs (seriously!), it's the unclean utensils and lack of personal care that lead to a lot of the physical downfall of opiate addicts.

You might want to do some fact checking before claiming expertise.


Anonymous 4 years ago

I'd also like to add, regarding those in recovery who have posted, mainly concerning preaching about how to apply spiritual principles (especially as it relates to posts by Lisa), that attraction rather than promotion could apply here.

It's pretty distasteful to talk about not judging others while telling them to "fuck off".

Also, namecalling is not a spiritual principle.


Hopeful 4 years ago

I have a 21 year old son who is a heroin/opiates addict. He has been away in rehab now for 2 1/2 months, relapsed and is now in treatment again.....this is the most painful and heartbreaking experience i have ever had in my life...my son is my heart and i will not give up on him but i am feeling hopeless at this moment. I miss him dearly as he lived with me..and i am praying to God that he can get sober and accept sobriety in his life...he is sooo young and sometimes i think that may be his downfall right now-his age...i cannot let him go he is my son...and i will keep helping him get into treatment centers..whatever it takes...i am hoping something clicks in him and helps him stay clean...i am afraid of him being away and relapsing and also afraid of him coming home...i am afraid for him and i am heartbroken and trying to have some faith that he will recover....but heroin addiction is strong and he has to learn to fight that demon...i am scared for my son...my heart goes out to other families in my situation...it is heartbreaking....my best to all


dawnms 4 years ago

thank you for your post hopeful. my son is twenty three and has been in three rehabs. today after his second relapse he ODed. thankfully a stranger called 911 and saved his life. i don't know what to do. sadness, anger, despair and absolute devastation overwhelm me. he is a brilliant, creative and incredibly smart young man. this disease is a nightmare for him and all who love him. i'm at my wits end and don't know what to do. after the second relapse we did not let him move home. he slept in his car for two nights. two nights i did not sleep. i waited anxiously for a phone call he made it to work. my heart is breaking. after the OD i brought him home. i know he's safe tonight. he plans to move back into an SLE on sunday when he pees clean. i wish we could all wake up from this nightmare called addiciton.


Britt 4 years ago

A drug addiction does change who you are and your actions. Just because a person steals, lies or cheats to get drugs does not mean this is who they are and have always been. Drugs alter your mind and most addicts do things while abusing substances that they are ashamed of after getting clean. When you are an addict and by addict i mean you are a person that has the actual disease of addiction and not just that your body is physically dependent, you are in survival mode and you do what you have to do to get drugs to stay well. After a time of using drugs an addict no longer gets high, but they have to seek the drug to stay merely stay well. That is the insanity of addiction. An addicts brain is different than someone who is not an addict and it is a constant internal struggle. An addicts brain will rationalize its actions or why it's ok to use just one more time. Alana who commented up above is clearly not an addict so please Alana don't speak on addiction since you clearly have no idea what an addict actually goes through in their own head and the internal struggle they will fight for the rest of their life once they have taken that first hit. To say a drug addiction doesn't change who someone is and if someone wasn't a liar or a thief to begin, having a drug addiction wouldn't make them become that is just plain ignorance


paulamith 4 years ago

I have been struggling with heroin addiction for three years, I started using because i was self medicating for my anxiety and depression, my siber waking mind is such a miserable existance and when i use opiates I don't feel high I feel normal. now its out of controll, my people don't understand that its not personal and its not like I choose to use , I need to to make the hell my life has become go away even if for a moment. I do things I never would have in the past just to get well and the lies that I tell are awful. I want to detox and nip whatever mental problem that is the root of this fixwd and am willing to do what it takes.I want to know if anyone out there can relate to what i am going through


paulsmith 4 years ago

sorry for misspelling i am emotional right now thanks


4 years ago

methadone . U were right on point with everything,being some1 who hasn't really experienced this addiction 1st hand.


4 years ago

^^I had more written in

My comment b4 methadone

Idk why it cut it out?

Just so u know. That's why

It doesn't make sense:(


noname 4 years ago

relapsed right before i leave for bootcamp in a couple days ill be 8 days clean getting too bootcamp ive smoked the shit for 2 years if i can do this anyone can and as im posting this im feeling like complete shit with a lot of money in my pocket but must resist spa + sauna helps a lot wish me luck peace@!


Josh 4 years ago

A lot of false info. Heroin withdrawal is NOT deadly, Coffey is addicting since it contains caffiene which causes physical and mental addiction. And I cannot function properly on caffiene but function better without opiates to an extent. Caffiene is one of the most addictive drugs along with nicotine Heroin and alcohol. Yes caffiene is a drug it is a mild stimulant. Not having caffiene I pass out throughout the day have head aches vomit and am very irritable.


Ryan 4 years ago

Hmmm interesting, first of all Heroin addicts to recover, about 16%-20% actually. And to Lisa...I feel bad for you and I will pray for you so that god may help you see through the shades of ignorance (haha pun on blind) but in all seriousness WE DO RECOVER it is not easy however if the steps are taken (12 to be exact) and one lives by spiritual principles, talks with others in recovery, reads the book, and goes to meetings, I promise that you will be able to give yourself a fighting chance. I don't know about you guys but I'm staying sober one day at a time and rarely have we seen an addict fail who has thoroughly followed our path. As for maintenance drugs...I do not recommend them. Drugs and alcohol aren't the problem, they're the solution to a deeper problem within ourselves. Love to all my brothers and sisters in recovery, and if you are ready to give up the fight, come to a meeting you'll be welcomed like family. I'm not saying it's the only way to get clean, but it's working for me. Peace


Rob 4 years ago

Heroin addicts do recover but it isn't an easy process by any means. 24 years old and i've been IVing heroin for 8 years. Got busted in the ghetto over a year ago and had to do the drug court program mandated by court so this is the most clean time i've ever had since picking up narcotic use. The first 5.5 months were a cakewalk due to maintenance, but I kicked suboxone cold turkey after that point in time, I was becoming addicted to that as well along with stomach issues that have yet to be resolved. Kicking suboxone wasn't bad after almost half a year of use, but coming from raw there isn't much that can make you withdrawl worse minus things like alcohol where the DTs can kill you. Be careful if you go to a physician and try to be honest with them, my Gastroenterologist that I paid to see decided that probiotic would fix how wrecked my insides feel without bothering to actually look inside to see what the problem was... Months later and the probiotic was useless, of course they say you can see them again but if you are struggling to pay your bills that isn't always a possibility. I'm back to self medicated with the occasional shot of D and trying to figure out how to deal with the inner pain. I can deal with the feelings of being ill, some can handle it but most can't. If you have acidic stool (you will know it if you have it) and the only thing that makes you regular is opiate, i'm guessing there is something more wrong with you than addiction. Don't let doctors and everyone blame any illness you may have on past addiction. Just an excuse for them to give you a halfassed diagnosis and try to recharge you for testing they should've done to begin with. Best of luck to everyone dealing with my struggle, hopefully we all can get to the point where life is manageable drug-free. Don't be too down on yourself no matter where you are in your addiction though, even if it takes a few arrests or trips to rehab you will gain some mental clarity and be one step closer to freedom :P


rob 4 years ago

@noname, good luck brother I chose military over recovery, lucked through the drug test at basic and got discharged in FS-A school out in california... watch where you get stationed after succeeding friend, You don't want to be somewhere like baltimore or california. Cali is heaven but pot is legal for just about everyone besides serviceman, and maryland is just a shit hole. Not much here to do but slowly kill yourself. As an addict just try to do some research before setting course for your next big move, had I done advanced infantry I would still be fighting for our country


notanaddict 4 years ago

Your statement about calling child services on an addict is absolutely not true. Not only would that be a terrible idea in some cases, it could even lead to the death of the addict! Further: a person addicted to opiates can, in fact, lead a productive and stable home environment. Perhaps they only use at a friend's place, or clean the area they use with disinfectant, leaving absolutely no drugs after they're done every time. Before you go doubting that statement, I have seen this type of heroin user and it's true. The fact that heroin happens to be illegal (it wasn't 100 years ago), does not mean it is any more hazardous to family life than alcohol; in fact, in many cases it is obviously less destructive. Each person and situation is (surprise!) different. Think long and hard about this before you go making a call that will result in either suicide or death--you are taking away what is potentially the only thing that matters in the addict's life, and the only thing they will have less will be an addiction which will grow progressively worse as the addict tries to deal with the unfathomable pain of losing a child using the only method they know how--drug use. Alternatively, those junkies whose addiction is accompanied by a mental disorder may commit suicide if their kids are taken. I was an addict for years, however, I sobered up seven years ago and went on to raise a brilliant little girl. I am positive that, had she been taken from me by the state, I would be dead today, not around to give this advice. Be very careful about involving big government in someone's personal life.


Martin 4 years ago

First off i,m in agreement with the ppl that told the lady going blind to fuck off,as was said if u came here as a neutral or to give advice then fine but mud slinging that's just being a BITCH!!! Im pretty sure if u asked for support us terrible disease ridden addicts would help,don,t tar everyone with the same brush.

Anyway i,ve been shooting Heroin since i was 14yo and im now 30,so i,ve given the best years of my life to a powder. Im in 2 minds on the drug changing someones moral compass,i haven,t once stolen for my habit or sold my body "BUT" I have lied 1000,s of times to family and friends to "borrow" money from them,so i guess it does change your morals but i also believe it depends on the person how low they go,"SOME" people are thieves and whores before addiction but use addiction as an excuse.

To the person who i think first made the comment about the moral compass,well im sorry to say you weren,t truly an addict by most peoples definition,i mean someone with the disease of addiction,you start your post with you was shooting/using heroin 8-10x daily then go on to say you spent $8 a day lol no offense for the lol but c,mon u may aswell have been shooting water up 10x daily for the amount of heroin there would be in $8 cut into 8-10 doses,either that or TAKE ME TO YOUR DEALER


Martin 4 years ago

WOW SORRY for double post guys i didn't half babble on,plus using correct English doesn,t half use your space up.

Anyway as i said above i,ve been shooting/IVing Heroin since 14yo an i,m now 30 so got the Tshirts 10x over,I,ve done ultra rapid detox (not recommended)the psycho torture of coming round from that sent me suicidal I,ve done numerous cold turkeys but as soon as the real sickness kicks in i,d be out hunting,blagging or w.e to get some of that lovely Golden Brown but as soon as id shot up i,d feel such a failure and realize it isn,t Golden at all but the Devil,s shit. I,ve also done/attempted 2 inpatient detoxes 1 was for 4wks but i walked after 2,that was a methadone reduction,oh fogot to say until a month ago i,d been on methadone since 18yo and IV methadone since 21yo. The 2nd detox is why im not on methadone anymore,that was a 3wk detox but again i walked after 2wks but there was mitigating reasons for that. (Anyone in the UK thinking of going to a TTP run Detox/Rehab think again the duty of care is awful and that,s just the start.

At the moment i,m on 4mg of suboxone which im staying on for shortest time possible because of the long halflife i don't want it taking over my system like the methadone did (same half life)then going onto the non opiate/opioid lofexadine hydrochloride (Britlofex)that does actually ease some of the opiate withdrawals by blocking production of Nor Adrenaline which is the cause of a lot of the physical symptoms,i have had this before and you are still very sick with the added drop in blood pressure that makes you feel like you are gonna pass out,your blood pressure has to be closely monitored. So anyone thinking of going on Britlofex take this into consideration,there,s pro,s and cons to all things.So it,s either take the edge off of withdrawals a bit but feel foggy,weak and at risk of going face first into the floor or don't take the britlofex and feel the symptoms to the fullest extent!!!

I,m also Anti methadone,the Dr,s don't tell you that the methadone is just as addictive as the Heroin and the Methadone withdrawals are worse and last at least 4 times as long,for some ppl maybe not but my experience and every other addict i know agrees on this.

Anyway sorry for babbling on again just trying to get some info out there from experience i,ve had over 16yrs.

BUT IN THE END WE ALL HAVE TO PAY THE PIPER FOR WHAT WE HAVE DONE TO OUR BODIES


Nikki 4 years ago

My brothers clean 2 years cold turkey off herion, completely different person. Trust me there's hope.... Just.caus someone uses don't mean they get tha death sentence....

THEY GOTTA.WANT IT THEMSELVES.... ONLY POSSIBLE.WAY ANYONE CAN WILL GET SOBER.... ITS ALL ABOUT GOD....


Lizz 4 years ago

I think with drawl is what is happening to my body.

I currently started doing cheese everyday for a week and a half and now that I quit I feel nauseas, sick to my stomach, like everything is pointless and angry.

Hopefully I feel better...

I regret ever trying it.


arif 4 years ago

i am telling all addicts,don't u miss the feelings when you took it first?all you are taking these to get that feelings.there is only way to get the same feelings.if you can stop taking it by yourself.if you need to go rehab or doctors,you wont get same pleasure.you stepped in,you have to come out from the cage of dragon after chasing for a while.at least wait 6 months for same pleasure.i know all addicts are brave to do that because they dared to step in.try it


never again... 4 years ago

If you really want to quit you will. It is a long hard process but you just need to determine what is more important. I quit cold turkey after using for 10 years .... it didn't kill me. I stayed in my boyfriends (now husband) house for three months. Did not talk to anyone that used with and I cut ties with everyone I knew. On the 16th of this month I have been clean for two and a half years with no relapse and no real desire to go back. I have had the chance to get heroin throughout and I just looked at pictures of my stepson and husband and I don't want to ever loose them. I never stole or prostituted to get my fix. I was one of the few that would work through withdrawals to get money to then go get my fix. Life is what you make it and your desire has to be strong. It truly is a mind over matter experience. Cold turkey is truly the way to go. If you don't do that then you are replacing one addiction for another one that is legal. My advice is simple but hard - change everything that you can. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. So if you keep trying and things are not working change something. Do not try. Try is to fail. Just do what you need to do. And do it for you.


Social worker 4 years ago

I'm a social working researching information on drug use and affects on families and reading all these comments has been enlightening to say the least.i am working with 2 children who lost their mother through prolonged heroin use over 20 years and she died a painful and prolonged death through acute organ failure .she spent months in agony with heart problems , joint pain , Lymfoma ect... All caused by the drug .she was 52 years old and was such a lovely person who tried so hard to care for her children .its an illness that needs to be treated. The children are struggling not only because they have lost their mother who they loved dearly but because it was advodiable , it's not like cancer that no one chooses to have.YOU have a choice .If you must use this drug PLEASE don't have children it's simple just have the pill implant every 3 years avoid bringing innocent drug adicted babies into the world who are in constant pain when they are born and grow up to have many problems and learning difficulties and emotional issues and quite possibly end up on the drug themselves


angelina7 4 years ago

i have been with a recovering heroin addict ( hes been clean for ten years and on a programme).... for approximately five months. this is a second time around thing for us. i think what i am having a problem with is his need to control. i want to be there for him and because i see where he is feared by most of his friends and family , i want to let him know that while i will not abandon him.. he cannot mistake this for weakness. he says i am the only one he will listen to because i am the only one that stands up to him when he gets beligerent and rude.. i want to know basically.. how can i help him with the anger issues


Nate 4 years ago

I've used opiates for a full year now, IV heroin for 6 months. I went into detox 9 days ago and was there for 3 full days. The day I got out i had to go to court for a probation violation (for pissing dirty for heroin and leaving community service to do heroin) and the judge sent me straight to jail until the next week on a $100,000 dollar bail. I'm lucky my parents bailed me out because I should be there right now. Oh, and the whole reason I'm on probation is because I got caught stealing scrap metal for heroin 6 months ago when I started. So basically I've been clean for 9 days. I'm feeling a little weird, the physical withdrawals are gone except for the restless leg when i try to sleep. I also CANNOT stop thinking about doing dope again, it's like i'm 14 again but instead of thinking about sex all the time i think about shooting dope. I feel like I've lost a best friend (heroin), but in reality it is the worst thing that has ever happened to me. Totally mind****ed. The only reason I don't go and get a bag right now (I still have a job and money) is because I know my PO will piss test me and if i fail i will go to jail. BTW, doing methadone or suboxone WILL NOT HELP YOU AT ALL! When you run out of those, you will go right back to using. So a little advice to those whose loved one is doing heroin - make sure they go to a detox program that does not use methadone or suboxone; these are only SUBSTITUTES to the heroin. They gave me some kind of blood pressure pill and some tramadol when i went and it was painless. I just want to stress the importance of not replacing an opiate with another opiate. Sure, I feel pretty fucked all around, but I can truly say that I'm %100 opiate free. However, I cannot say how long this will last...


Deanyuk 4 years ago

Hey guys it's so good to see honest discussion & some real issues being tackled & experiences being shared.

I'm dean from England and I have used most drugs since 16 but heroin is the 1 that has always captured me & I have an almost romance with.

I have been using for a fair few years now & I am really struggling to see a way out, it just seems a constant circle of ...use so much you are skint, go through withdrawal, hate life & constantly dream, When asleep of getting dope then as soon as you get money again getting high again in constant repeatition.

I have been on first suboxone but now methadone for a year but I only changed so I can use on top.

Just this weekend I have spent atleast £280 (about $480) on the stuff & walking around dangerous areas just getting it is risky enough. But it's after this weekend I've had one of them rare moments where I just lay & evaluate things, I have stayed clean all day which is a big achievement as I still have a lot of money in my bank but I think I'm staying clean just to beat withdrawal.

Heroin is without doubt either stalling me or day by day stealing my future & I know it needs to stop someday or I will end up with nothing in some hostel.

One point Noone has touched upon though is the USA & Uk throw out methadone & suboxone but what if they just legalized heroin? It would make it affordable,safer to obtain,cleaner & more importantly it would stop the endless kids being locked up or selling their bodies.

This article is portraying that there is no hope for recovery, well I think the statistics of rehabs everywhere suck so maybe we should legalize it.


CleanjunkieX 4 years ago

Heroin detox doesn't kill you: quit with the bs, folks. But any underlying undiagnosed health conditions that you never realised you had MIGHT.

I was a chronic IV heroin addict and I've not touched it coming up to 11 years next month.

We CAN and DO recover, OKAY?

Some are not so lucky.

I detoxed multiple times, relapsed multiple times, but after two overdoses and some really bad gear someone helped me detox in their home with lofexidine, buscopan, diazepam, temazepam, loperamide and I can't remember what else.

I couldn't have done it without the medication or the help and support from someone who believed in me when I didn't believe or trust or love, even like myself.

Despite the medication, it was the hardest detox I ever did.

I was also lucky insomuch as I didn't have any children. Many of my using friends did and that made it that much harder for them. Some made it, some didn't, some are clean today some are still using, some died.

When I was using I was blind and deaf to people's help, to NA. Like many, relapsed straight out of rehab.

The Post Acute Withdrawl Syndrome is very real, and it can last years.

After nearly 11 years heroin free I can hoestly say that there have been times I've been happy to be clean, times I've struggled and times of intense craving which tends to happen when life gets tough.

I can't say I'll never relapse, but I can't say I will.

I'm just doing the best I can and doing my best to avoid alcohol because I always substituted that and the detox from that is worse than heroin: that, and benzo detox can kill you, not heroin detox, which just feels lke you're dying.

When I did my rattle, the last time, I was pissing blood from infection I never knew I'd been anaesthetising.

I would have died if I'd kept using.

All of you still out there, I wish you find the support you need. YOU CAN DO IT.

Plenty people might have given up on you but I ain't, and there are loads out there who believe in you.

Love to you all.


Deanyuk 4 years ago

congrats on being clean for so long hun, you should be so proud:)

However heroin detox does kill a lot of people...not from the symptoms...(although they do suck hard) but because detox programmes let people leave knowing they could relapse at any time and when they do their tolerance is gone.

You constantly hear of tragic circumstances where someone tries so hard to get clean, does rehab...goes a day,a month,maybe 6 months then the urge gets too much, they score and their body cant take what it used to, there is no telling how pure your gear is.


cleanjunkieX 4 years ago

Hey DeanUK, you're so right.

Just the article is misleading and states detox can kill: relapse after detox can kill.

Have you heard, there's a program where they're prescribing supervised IV diamorphine slow reduction to chronic addicts who have failed all other programs, google it, they've been doing trials in London, Brighton and some other place,

and guess what:

It WORKS (doh! They didn't need to do research to work that one out)

And I agree, legalisation would end the dodgy gear...dream on eh? :(

I could go on and on on my political soapbox about it but won't. Check it out though, ask about it...(I can already hear angry shouts from "the taxpayer" lol: get over it: we're HUMAN TOO)

wishing you success, like I said, it is possible, one day, something will just "click" and you'll be strog enough, not that it's easy...

ALSO...

I strongly agree with the comment someone wrote about calling social services on heroin addicts being like giving them a death sentence.

they might be "well meaning" (DAMN!) but actually if they think twice they're pure vindictive daily mail addcts with the desire to orphan kids and cast them into "care".

Whoever wrote this article, dig a little deeper (pardon the pun if you even understand why it's funny) with yor research and you'll find most kids who get shoved in the care system end up abused there and come out addicts.

Or if you think I'm overgeneralising, how come nearly everyone I knew/know who was/is using went through the care shitstem at some point? Myself included.

Yeah, Judges, doctors, surgeons, lawyers, university lecturers amongst others use gear in secret...how easy for them to fund it (steal it from hospitals ;)) on the sly though. When you're addicted it ain't about morals. It's about desperation....

...which NA state is a gift: the gift of desperation...rock bottom...

NA ain't for everyone. I've relapsed before and blamed NA, seriously. But it can work if you meet the right people who genuinely want to help and not the using addicts scheming to score outside, which does occasionaly happen....

Anyways, take care care of you& good luck :)


CleanjunkieX 4 years ago

...by the using addicts scheming to score outside, I mean this:

How many times have I got clean for a bit and met someone who suddenly wants to tell me all about this "fockin dynamite" "fockin nice bit a gear" they're just about to score and yours truly just couldn't resist...?

That's why moving to a different place, though it doesn't always work, helps...

"Geographical"

?

I don't reckon I'd have stayed clean so long if I hadn't moved away...

maybe I'm wrong...

Oh and I meant strong enough not strog enough (nice served with rice :))


Deanyuk 4 years ago

omg yes you have hit on a real point about NA there i have had that problem the 1 and only time i have gone and it had more dealers than it did people who want to get clean (alot probably had to go just due to court orders) i have heard of a lot of stories where dealers wait outside...tell you about gear...get you gagging, act friendly, let you come with them to score then rough you up and take your stuff.

as for the iv diamorphine, yer i have heard of it and every city that has trialed it has said what amazing results its had, i really don't get why they don't start rolling it out everywhere...there is a documentary about this scheme and 1 woman who is takin iv dia simply says "methadone wasn't for me & to put it bluntly, how on earth do you think you are gonna cure most addicts by introducing a new,different and synthetic drug"...i did laugh, she is so right

I will have to try find this documentary because the guy who narrates it was once a real high flyer politician and he was the medical secretary and guess what he was doing for years....you guessed it writing out diamorphine scripts for himself....cant blame him but i am jealous n annoyed;) but yer he said noone would of guessed he was an addict because he constantly had clean gear and a constant supply so wasn't running around 24/7,scheming or whatever else.

what's the NA's like where you live then?


Deanyuk 4 years ago

im not saying it doesn't help some people, what i am saying tho is that considering its the most talked about & pushed treatment going for opiate addicts it's success rate & positive reviews are hardly awesome.

Also if i'm actually taking the stuff i'm surely allowed to have an opinion on it?

It's just such a bizarre concept to have someone who is addicted to opiates, then take a completely different synthetic opiate every day in the hope they may cut down their use...when you put it like that why not just offer pure heroin & have a scheme that they reduce their dose, surely that makes more sense?


25 Clean 4 years ago

Drug addict for 20 years with the last 12 of the 20 being a heroin addict. Clean for 25 years. Cold turkey and a geographical change is the only way to go in my opinion.

Find yourself a dedicated family member or a sponsor, live with them, spend a week in bed kicking, and don't leave the house for any reason without taking that person with you for 3 months.

Cut ties with all your old friends forever and never, ever spend a minute with anyone that does any kind of drugs.

For all the long term heroin addicts out there...at first, you won't know how to relate to people that don't drug but it gets easier with time. Then it becomes second nature.

If I can do it, you can do it.


31 days 4 years ago

I have self medicated anxiety and depression my entire adolescent and adult life, and spent 2+ yrs on meds for them and was as equally miserable.

Watch Basketball Diaries - he's right. It fixes EVERYTHING

and after a long enough addiction, you're F***ED...

But I can tell you 2 things:

1.) it is possible to quit, but DO NOT use suboxone, subutex, or methadone. The withdrawal from these isn't as bad when tapered off but lasts longer wich is an alternate hell. Clonidine actually helps repair your brain, look it up.

2.) Staying clean is a simple matter of willpower. As is a persons choice to either kick H or kick in somebody's door and rob them (which I thought about but could never do, I would just be sick until I figured something out...oh and I was shooting over a gram a day and using crack or glass occassionally but stimulants don't affect me like others).

I was an alcoholic for 3 years of my 5 year cocaine addiction and quit both cold turkey to better myself at 20 years old for 2 years until I found pills and eventually heroin.

What I am saying; that I am probably the fastest person to give up on a good day.

I feel depressed, tired, restless, and moody on a normal day so how do you think I am able to survive 30 days of feeling like shit, sneezing all the time, cold sweats, crippling weakness, unfathomable depression and knowing it would all go away if......

I believe in God, though im not a good christian

I haven't been to a single meeting

I'm 25 now and I simply want to be sober MORE THAN I want to go back.

Cheers

p.s

I even called my old dealer a few days ago (I couldn't take it anymore) and he said he was waiting for me, but I just asked him how he was doing and wished him well.


Deanyuk 4 years ago

I think you hit on a vital point that staying clean is the hardest part and your addiction can restart from using other drugs, not just the drug you were initially addicted to.

i suppose any user has to sit down and realise that temptation will always be there and if you allow yourself to have that "oh 1 last time" or "oh 1 more hit" then you will be forever relapsing.

I haven't truly found my cure yet, but to be honest is there a cure? i think the only proven cure that works is when the user reaches that point of enough is enough!


lynn Davis 4 years ago

Once you do it, you're opening up to a demonic possession. That spirit is controlling everything. It has to be casted out by an anointed deliverance team who have been covered in the blood of Jesus. once it's gone out, the void has to be replaced with the Holy Spirit to have power to fight. I pray for you. Satan! The blood of Jesus is against you. I command you loose them right now. In Jesus name We pray. be healed


lynn Davis 4 years ago

Once you do it, you're opening up to a demonic possession. That spirit is controlling everything. It has to be casted out by an anointed deliverance team who have been covered in the blood of Jesus. once it's gone out, the void has to be replaced with the Holy Spirit to have power to fight. I pray for you. Satan! The blood of Jesus is against you. I command you loose them right now. In Jesus name We pray. be healed


JS 4 years ago

i was using heroin for 4 years, to the point i needed it just to feel normal. it gets so frustrating because it becomes just another bill on top of every other bill u gotta pay. i really did not want to do it anymore but was not able to stop. i moved away with family, away from my dealer and my friends to a place i knew nobody and quit cold turkey. and it really was the most horrible experience. i didn't die from the withdrawal but the depression actually led me to have many suicidle thoughts. i lost everything i had and really had to hit rock bottom before seeking help from family. ive been 7 months sober and i hope i can keep it up. and for those who think heroin doesn't change your moral compass, you have not been a true addict, by yourself, hitting rock bottom. maybe you had parents or someone giving you money and u were always able to purchase the drug so you have never really had to deal with the lowest point in your addiction. what do you do when your withdrawing and have no money? just about anything, and if you have never even come close to doing something you never thought u would then you have not truly experienced heroin addiction. it irritates me that people who haven't been through that can comment on how if you do scumbag things on heroin its because you were a scumbag before. anyone who has been through this knows what im talking about, and if you haven't, dont comment things like that


Tony 4 years ago

I started in Jr. high using drugs went to high school still using, dropped out in 1980 when I was in the 11th and a little later I was a full blown heroin addict. Did the usually things like, stealing, jails, then prison, hospitals, homeless, being sick from withdrawals, programs, and in 1998 I got on methadone and still on it to this day. I meet a woman a heroin addict too we end up having two kids and I am not on their birth certificates. When my son was born his mom was in prison & when my daughter was born I was in prison for a violation so I wasn't at their births. Because their mom wasn't in prison when my daughter was born she was born addicted to heroin and stayed in the hospital for a couple of months going through the withdrawal & some medical issues because of the heroin. From 98 to today I been clean, raised my two kids by myself which they are now 14 & 16. One get straight A's the other B & C's. We go to church as a family and doing worse then most but better then some. I am a winner and you can be one too. With or with out methadone we heroin addicts can make it. Don't let no one tell you different. There is life after heroin.


misty 4 years ago

I don't understand why they can't just let their girlfriend break up with them. Why do they sit there and try to convince them that they are clean and they're going to seek help.


corey 4 years ago

what a horrible way to live your life on methadone forever


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nessa 4 years ago

hi I was never aware of what my ex was going through. When we met he was in the process of getting clean but little by little I saw him fall apart. I had never seen him use the drug in front of my eyes therefore I was still in disbelief that he was a heroin addict. When he couldn't take it no more he would get mad..angry start cussing like crazy he will get his Xbox sale it and go get high. The next day he ll act like nothing ever happened! what made me want to run out the door was thr simple fact that he didn't admit drugs were hurting him. He blame his family and other factor even himself but never the drug. The day after I left him I went to his house to pick up my belongings and he was in handcuffs. He had thr whole police department at his house he treaten to hurt himself or his dad. I was like no way this isn't true his not that person. And he wasn't atleast mentally he had smoked heroin before things got out of control. The sheriff ask me if I did drus if I will help him get his drugs. I was like "no I honesty though he was able to overcome his addiction." Now his in jail and his parents are good people they didn't even press charges I ran out. I change everythig because I really don't want to see him. I do hate him and hate myself for being in this situation. but I figured if he hits the bottom he might just recovered. I can't hold his hand no more it's to painful for me. idk if I ll be judge as a bad person for lettin him go like that but I know in my heart that I did whatever I could to help

him.


Patrick 4 years ago

Hey, this was a great article.. I also was addicted to heroine, I started using oxycodone for about a year and there was a bust and they became hard to find.. So I like many other of my "friends" started using heroine, because its stronger and cheaper than oxy. I was addicted to heroine for almost 2 years, It doesn't sound like a long time with opiate addiction, 3 years total. However, it started when I was 17 years old.. I am now 21 and have been clean for over a year. I never realized how much I had changed until I got clean.. It is incredible.. Its almost like having two people fighting inside one body and the bad one is the one who always wins. Horrible drug, horrible addiction.


stephanie robertson 4 years ago

Heroin is a horrible drug. It has touched the lives of many people I know. All middle class college bound that can't find there way back. It all started with percocets and it became cheaper to buy heroin. I have watched children born to the addiction, steeling, lying, violence, child abuse all behind these drugs. We have the money to afford top rehab programs and paid over 200.000.00 so far for rehabs in maui CA, FL, PA, MD, OH, DE, TX, MN and NY. Problem top dollar, and still no recovery. The recovery is fine as long as they stay on Suboxone or Methodone for the rest of their lives but we cant afford to support a legal drug habit. This is the solution for all programs they check them in give them drugs and when the drugs stop they leave. The the methadone program was just great they sold them and suboxone on the streets for heroin. The babies all have problems and we cant take one more child but they keep on having them. The social workers don't care, drug rehabs making money, pharmacutical companies making money, doctors getting kickbacks and after all this time and money they wont be the ones who will have to pay for the funerals. These drugs are out of control and the solution is hope they can keep a job to pay for the same drug made by a pharmacutical company instead of a drug dealer. Who is getting that kickback.


drewthabutcher 4 years ago

really i don't think its a good idea to (as suggested) remove the child ov a heroibe addicts home.... i myself am a young ex-horoine addict (25) and honestly i quit cuz i had no money, no job, and im not gonna pull tricks or hook out my babies momma for it, its all in the physiology and psychology of the addicts habit and not ENTIRELY on SOLEY THE DRUG!!! i find it appalling that u suggest in every heroine addicts home the children should be removed.... I FIND IT APPALLING THAT ANY FSS AND/OR CPS AGENCY COULD TREAT EVERY CASE SOOO BLACK AND WHITE... the reality is that every case is different and should be treated as such.... that's all i needed to say ive overcome my 8 year addiction to heroine and any opiate i could get my hands on JST TO AS U CORRECTLY STATED feel normal...


Jessica1850 4 years ago

After reading theses comments it makes me think am I ever going change?? I am 24 yrs old been using herion for over a year Iv user. In high school I started doing pain pillsa after knee surgery. I have suffered from depression but never wanted to admit it. When I was 18 I got shot 4 times driving home from friends house. It has ruined my life. I have PTSD from it and really bad anxiety. I started off with going back to pain pills and then started trying every drug I could get my hands on. Now after 4 years of that my friend tried herion and soon got me to try it. Biggest mistake of my life. I feel so ashamed my brother has been addict all my life. I have seen first hand how to ruined my family. I hate my brother growing up and now I feel like I am putting my family through more than he did. Because I should've learned from him. I say am going to quit then something bad happens and I use it as excuse to get high. I really don't want to struggle with this my whole life. It sucks I feel like they don't want to help me. I go doctor to get anxiet mecdine but then they won't put me on stuff that works because I am drug addict. It's so stupid why won't they help me?? All they do is judge me and treat me like I am not even a person. It's like if I didn't tell them I was drug addict they wouldn't even know. Why judge me for making mistakes in my life. I wonder if I would've never got shot would I have turned to herion?? If there's is anybody that knows of places that help with out judging you. I really do want to stop! I want my relationship with my family back. I am sick of hurting them. I always thought I could just hurt myself and nobody would notice I was wrong. Thanks for posting it has made me think so much more about my addiction!


OhioSorrow 4 years ago

I was sOber in AA for 10.5 years. I had ACL reconstruction, and was prescribed percocet during recovery. I took the meds as prescribed. Shortly after rehab for my knee, I was taken off the pills. The combination of lack sof meetings, and the obsession of wanting more pain killers led me to relapse. Two months after relapsing, I tried heroin for the first time ever. It's now 14 months later, and I've been clean 22 days. I've destroyed every relationship in the past 6 months. I lost my job, friends, family relations. I only IV'ed for 3 months. The needle itself has become an addiction. I would shoot water into my veins if I was without heroin. I stole,lied,cheated every day of my use. I certainly wasn't raised this way. Heroin is the devil, as I obsess daily for just one more shot. My addiction wants me dead, but will settle for me high. I'm fighting for my life, and it scares the shit out of me. Heroin IV users die,period...it just depends on how soon. I have had COUNTLESS friends die from this terrible drug. I know I'd be right there with them if I decide to use again. Don't ever give up hope on a loved one with this deplorable disease. As long as they are breathing there is still hope.

god is love


ShawnsMom 4 years ago

Shawn, my beautiful 22 year old son died 7weeks ago from a heroin overdose. What started out as a prescription from a doctor for oxycodone for back pain quickly became an addiction. Shawn started doctor shopping and then when he stole a doctors prescription pad and was arrested for forging prescriptions he turned to heroin because it was cheaper and easier to get. We sent Shawn to an inpatient rehab facility where for the 45 days that he was in there we were at peace. I actually felt euphoric knowing where he was and that he was finally getting the help he needed. I git my beautiful son back fir those 45 days. The son who was everybody's brother, everybody's best friend, everybody's first love, everybody's soulmate. We called him "ferris buehller" because like the character in the 80s movie, Shawn was witty and charming and loveable and popular. Shawn needed more than 45 days of rehab but insurance wouldn't cover any more time so they released him. Three days later my son Nicky, Shawn's older brother, found Shawn unresponsive on the kitchen floor. It was the day of Nicky's 24th birthday. Shawn had died of a heroin overdose. Heroin is a terrible drug. It does change a persons moral compass. My Shawn was robbed of his true self by this terrible drug. He stole everything from his friends and family, he became a pathological liar who couldn't be trusted. We tried desperately to help him but no one could be around him because he was selling our laptops, our tvs, stealing money, credit cards and everything else. Heroin changed who he was. It changes a persons brain chemistry. I was elated to have my Shawn back for those 45 days he was heroin free. I know that nobody forced him to put a needle back into his arm but addiction is more powerful than any of us can understand. My heart breaks not only for my beautiful son and the fact that he didn't get to live and enjoy his full life, but it breaks for all of the young kids and families who are tragically torn apart by this demon.

God bless you all


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mom 3 years ago

interesting all of it to read...so many different points from addicts to recovering addicts to family members..my daughter age 23 has been a heroin addict for 3 yrs that i know of..been thru it all ..burglaries of homes..stealing from her places of employment..from us family members ..getting involved with prostitutes..the lies oh so many many lies i dnt believe anything that ever comes out of her mouth. i just wait n c what happens next and the truth usually comes out..she is on her way to prison now..thanks to me. well really thanks to herself..she was doing the crimes i just couldn't sit back and watch it all over again..so messed up ..going to work that way ..so fadded she couldn't even hold her head up ..cant watch it anymore so i called her po and had her revoked..didn't take long..she was out of jail just 2months.. i love my daughter with everything i have..she was beautiful hard working and honnest once...a long time ago ..and being a selfish mom i want that one back..in my life.. as i call em heroin zombies..i see so many in my town ..all connected to her somehow ..and i just wish they would all just go away..i see them daily and i think of how much i truly do hate them ..not just because my daughter fell in it but because i know who they are what they are and sooner or later they will be stealing from the innocent and lieing to their families as well..its hard to live with and i know its hard for her .. i am her only support team and i hope i am enuf ..she will be getting treatment in prison for about a yr n a half and i hope its wat she needs to stop but i have come to the rreality that if she comes home and it starts up again..i have done all i can as an outsider to help and then i will give up ..if she gives up then my fite is redundant...best wishes to u all..but at sum point we all have to either have faith to a point ..then call it as it is what it is ..and move on.


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hopefulmomma 3 years ago

As the mother of a 22 year old heroin addict/alcoholic I would like to thank everyone for their contribution to this discussion.

My beautiful, talented, troubled daughter has been battling heroin addiction for the past four years. It is has affected all who know and love her, one way or another and, as her mother, it continues to break my heart and it WAS my obsession. She had been in and out of rehabs and halfway houses and, following a period of almost 6 months of sobriety, had relapsed. It was then that I hit MY bottom and made my way into the rooms of Al-Anon, a 12 Step support group for friends and family of alcoholics/addicts. It has saved my sanity and brought amazing insights that allow me to live my life peacefully and even happily whether or not she is using. It doesn't cure the grief but it has helped me live a full and satisfying life in spite of the loss. I finally understand what so many alcoholics and addicts already know: We cannot control or cure another's addiction.

What I CAN do is continue to love her, provide moral support in her efforts towards sobriety and pray that she finds her way back to the beautiful life I believe awaits her on the other side of addiction.

If you have a parent, child, partner or loved one who abuses drugs or alcohol, please don't underestimate the toll it is taking on your sanity. This insidious disease spreads to everyone in the family and gets us behaving like crazy people as we meddle, manipulate and martyr ourselves. Al-Anon and Nar-Anon meetings are free and worldwide.

My experience has been if you go to a few meetings, bring an open mind and just listen, you will find answers that can lead to peace, acceptance and even joy.

I agree that there are many paths to sobriety and there may be many paths living a fulfilled life around a loved one's addiction. This has been the road that worked for me.

Courage to all that are battling addiction, whether it is your own or a loved one's.


joe 3 years ago

you wouldn't withdrawal if you were immune LOL


JSinPA 3 years ago

Wow, lots of good and bad info/advice here. Seems most of the good from recovering/current addicts, bad from the others. First let me say I'm on day 8 of sobriety from a 6 month binge on h, snorting was my method. Detoxing on my own. Spent 30,000 on it from August-jan. before that had a 8 yr mostly on addiction to oc's and subs. Last feb I self detoxed from subs, clean for 2 1/2 months. Let me say getting off the subs was 20x's harder than this. I was sick for 24 days solid. Getting off the real shit is way easier, last night I slept 7 hrs, first good night of sleep but after only a week I'm really happy! I don't have bad urges awake, not yet, but have had opiate dreams the last 2 nights. I'm really determined to leave it behind for good this time, have a great gf and 1 yr old daughter, and I would never forgive myself of I wasn't there for her growing up. Please don't give up on ur addicted friends/family as suggested by some, if it wasn't for my parents, little brother and gf I'd have never quit. Love from them went a long way for me. Thanks :-)


:( 3 years ago

My boyfriend is a heroin addict and hes in jail right now for it...before i met him he caught a case residential burglary. He pled drug addict and got out on probation. He went to a 6month rehab and they had him on methadone. Then they took him off and he was clean. That was when i met him. He told me from the beginning he did heroin but he said he was done with it now. At the time i knew heroin was a really bad drug but i underestimated the power of the addiction and i believed him when he said he was done with it. We became friends for a while and eventually got together and he was still clean. He then for some reason relasped im guessing because he lives with his dad out in the middle of no where and where his dad works is a neighborhood in west Chicago where selling heroin is dominant. The temptation was there so he would get it when he worked with his dad so on the days he was home all alone for hours with no food and no human contact but when he texted me it got bad. I couldn't always see him because he lives an hour n 30mins away from me. I have school and work and driving like that would be a chore. He didn't have a car or lisence because he was in jail and just got out of rehab when i met him he was saving money working for his dad. Anyway once it got real bad I threatened to break up with him and he had his dad check him into rehab the very next day. They put him on a drug called suboxone. It blocks the heroin high effects and it blocks the crave for it but it doesn't get you high. But he was still home alone all the time so his dad is on aderrall and my bf would steal some from his dad to play xbox and be super focused...his PO drug tested him n he came back dirty now hes in jail...I must say i think ive lost hope...if hes not on heroin it seems like he has to be on something...and im seeing stories of how you can never recover from heroin addiction..I get the feeling this cycle will never end and its pointless to have hope...The sad part is when he was little his uncle that he was really closed to was a heroin addict..and he killed himself not by overdose he blew his brains out with a gun...me and my bf's family fear he will end up in the same boat. When he was little he and his grandad found his uncles dead body so i would assume that impacted him a lot


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MissCue 3 years ago from Santa Barbara, CA.

I have empathy for all addicts on this planet, and pray for all. A lifetime battle that takes courage, perseverance, and support. Though not impossible, although at times takes more work than humanly possible. I send my blessings and prayers to all.


Jenn P 3 years ago

I have been an addict for my entire life, from one thing to the next. I know the lie that an addict can never get and stay clean... BUT that is a tired ole lie. tomarrow i will celebrate 4 years clean... I started with the typical alcohol and weed in my early teens, went to benzos and other pills, then found heroin and crack. I gave everything I love up, you see I did not loose it I gave it away, I hit many bottoms only to find a trap door to hit anthor bottom. I found this simple program years and years ago but I found it with the help of parents,children,probation officers,courts.... Any addict who does not WANT to stop will not stop no matter what. There is a solution to our problems and I found it!!!! It's 12 simple steps.... One day at a time,a desire,and other recovering addicts. one addict helping anthor is without pararell.there is hope don't ever give up. i have a life i never imagined was possible and i owe it to hard work and one or a hundred of those other recovering addicts showing me how to live without the use of any mind or mood altering substances. THANK YOU NA/AA YOU SHOWED ME HOW TO LIVE A BEATIFUL LIFE


Anna Deeds 3 years ago

I just want to let everyone know there is HOPE for heroin addicts to recover! I was an IV heroin addict for 10 years. I quit and so can anyone else who is addicted to opiates. Today, I'm a Licensed Counselor and I help others with their recovery. I have 10 years clean from the needle and 7 years clean from methadone and all other substances. I know what it takes to get better and I can help others. It takes a lot of hard work but it's much better than the alternative...a life of chasing a high.

You can find me at www.challengingaddiction.com

Anna Deeds, LPC


Layla 3 years ago

Opiate withdrawal is actually THE ONLY withdrawal that can't. Misinforming people is no way to go about writing an article intended to help.

You said yourself that you are NOT an addict. Do some more research and maybe I'll read your new and informed article.


Bre 3 years ago

Good story but false information.


Justfortoday 3 years ago

Herion addicts do recover, I still have a ways to go but thanks to recovery and NA I haven't touched it in a little over 7 months, when I was using and saw articles that said I couldn't recover it def didn't help any. Get more educated on addiction.


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ashamed 3 years ago

i am 27 with 3 children n addicted to herorin. I kicked two months ago and was clean for 27 days and now im back on this crap im so mad at myself but I dnt feel norma without it. I cant function the way I can wen im using. I snort it not shoot or smoke it wen I first kicked I was snorting over 2 grams a day everyday for a year now I am down to only about a 20 bag a day I want to stop I noe its not right ive lost so much weight and I want to be around to watch my children grow up. But the feeling of no energy useless aches pains not being able to sleep and no patience is unbarrible. I get chronic migraines and stiff neck all the time I was on norco 10mg and then I got my tollerence up and started taking oxycotten morphine ect. Then I turned to this crap. Im disguested with myself and so disappointed. Plse somebody does it get better as u stay clean. Does ur mind stop thinking about gettin high every sec of everyday the longer u stay off the crap. I need help. Plse.


Nemo 3 years ago

I believe I have the same condition. Several times I experimented with different opiates and just could not figure out what there is to it. I just flushed the remains of a bag of H through the toilet, and that's the end of my experiments. In some regards I consider myself lucky to not know what it should feel like (paradoxically). You can never undo that knowledge, which will make it a choice for the rest of your life.

I don't look down upon any of you who are in dire straits, as it is probably the same curiosity as mine that started it all. I wish you all the best.


MrChit 3 years ago

I have to say that addicts can get clean and stay clean. I have known people who shot a gram a day of tar for 1yr+ and quit through sheer will-power, even though they had money in the bank and numbers in their phone...

Personally when i quit h, it was a living nightmare. voices/negative thought/unbelivable pain. There really is no word that expresses how incredibly painful/difficult quiting can be. I was lucky enough to have good info on quitting tips: what to expect to happen both physically/mentally/emotionally as well as a list of otc drugs to help ease the process. My family also did a great job of teaching me from a young age the value of integrity, morals, and restraint. It took all my everything to pull myself out. i failed several times at quitting before. This time i am confident i can kick it. really its simple NEVER GIVE INTO BAD THOUGHTS. Once your clean NEVER SCORE AGAIN, it gets "easier" once you've got a few months under your belt as long as you talk about what your feeling and have a good support system. All in all if you fail at quiting keep trying, try, try, try. If you get info and good recources and mentally train yourself you can overcome it, just keep trying and give quiting everything you have.


Kate 3 years ago

My brother overdosed from the maintenance drugs that he was prescribed for years to deal with his Heroin habit. He used everything to deal with the real issue of addiction, personal pain. I was involved with a wonderful guy for 6 months before his family told me about his Heroin addiction. It was a 5 year roller coaster ride. I cold turkeyed him after calling a hotline where I was told,"He wouldn't die from it". I've known many people who use that have died, lost their children,killed others not using a lock box andI have volunteered at a local agency making safe kits for addicts. It was my own experience during Chemo and Radiation that taught me what a struggle it can be stopping a pain killer. I got sick,very irritable and life sucked. I learned respect for that struggle. Every addict I've ever met has a dark hole in them that they try to fill instead of dealing with the hole itself. I do know people who beat their addiction with drugs and whole families that are addicts. There is a lot of shame involved with any kind of addiction. So even when people stop there is a whole lot of work to be done but for many as a NA person told me years ago,"Some addicts require a Frontal Lobotomy to get better". Sad but, true.


Alonzasgrl 3 years ago

I have read every article on here, and I must say some of you are right where you should be as far as knowledge. But to the parents of an addict. You must first learn YOU ARE POWERLESS OVER YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS ADDICTION 1 Next to the addicts who are trying to recover and may have relapsed don't quit trying, never ever quit. Yes take one minute, then a half hour, then 1 hour then 2 hours and so on until you got your first 24 hours 1 day clean and from there it will be like riding a bike. Find a higher power in your life to put your feelings up to and willingly hand over any negative thoughts or intensions over to that higher power let go of it all. Work your steps ! Call your sponsors if yu don't have one go to a meeting and get one or two ! call them if you feel an urge or negative thought about scoring. do not chase the dragon bec in the end he will win if you continue to use. Try to remember back in your life when something great happened and yes maybe some of you have nothing great that you can remember then for you think of something great you always wantd to happen then chase that dream and make it happen. And the parents of the addicts stop enabling your child or loved one to use you, you must let them make the same choice to stay clean and out of trouble as they chose to use. Knowone forced your child to do drugs, are we on the same page ? This was a choice and once they were hooked they lost control, but YES anyone can choose to take back their control over any drug or situation. Find another addiction like church, vol at a shelter, or a pet rescue find a place you are needed on a daily basis and you will then find yourslef ! My daughter is an addict sometimes recovering and other times an active addict, but all in all she is my daughter, she has to take the lumps and bumps along the way, if its jail then its jail if its church then its church, it is her choice. To get clean you have to want it more then you want the next high. Thos of you main lining, its not the end not at all. You too can find a way if you so choose too . God Bless all of you both the addict and the people who love them. Never give up on anyone !! Never enable them either, don't make it so easy as a parent to help your child use by giving them money ect... if they are hungry feed them if they are naked clothe them, if they are freezing give them a blanket, but unless you want to bury your child learn to say NO ! I love you always but the choice is yours get help and fight or leave and I will miss you but always love you ! That's tough love and hell yea it hurts, but you you have a better chance of getting that loved one back if you let them go ! They will find their way either back to you or they will find their way HOME with their higher power that was always their waiitng for them to call upon him .


Ronald 3 years ago

I don't do drugs (well, nicotine...). But what amzes me that it really takes a conserted effort to get addicted to heroine, I am told. You have to use it at least half a year on a daily basis to get fully hooked. Why do people make such an effort? I am addicted to cigarettes, but they are addicted after a few days (and I was only 12, so oblivious). I can't understand grown up people who use it every day for half a year and then not think, well, am I not trying to solve something that should be solved otherwise?


twamp 3 years ago

@ronald, you are ignorant to think it takes 6 months to become addicted to heroin you are extremely misinformed. It can take as little as 3 weeks become physically addicted and psychological addiction can happen after the first use. . Get your facts straight. Coming from someone who has first hand experience.


Ben 3 years ago

No one wants to be addicted. There's no effort out forth to be addicted that's so ridiculous Being branded a junkie and watching you destroy everyone around you sucks (understatement). I'm in the process of kicking and I've relapsed 3 times in the past two weeks. But I'm learning from it, that's all you can do. People don't wake up one day and decide they want to be a heroin addict. It wrecks your life. And I don't believe you have to hit rock bottom to change. You live at rock bottom, sometimes for years until something happens that gives you hope. You can't let that moment pass by. It's will power, support and a whole lot of preparation. Plan on the apocalypse when you kick and then you'll be prepared for the worst or (hopefully) be pleasantly surprised. Very spot on article. As a heroin addict you find yourself in the weirdest and worst situations daily. Contorting your body for hours to find a vein. You don't think about it cuz you need to get right. Everything's justified and normal after a short time. It's pathetic but I don't believe there's a single addict that's past a point of no return. Help is hard to find, it disturbed me how many places and doctors I had to call just to get denied. No one knows the side of them they find when addicted to heroin and can't imagine there's anything else to them after a while. But there's always hope and seriously best of luck to anyone who's still struggling. You owe it to yourself, your families and the people you've lost to get clean. Quitting today will be easier than quitting tomorrow. And if you've never tried dope, don't. You may never understand it but it would be one of the best decisions you'll ever make.


Debbie 3 years ago

I was a heroin addict for nearly a decade, I stopped nearly 10 years. Heroin produces the best feeling anyone could experience but it also produces the worst. Having travelled the whole journey from the highs to the lows I know the highs are short lived and outweighed by the lows. Sooner or later you get fed up of the lows. I know I won't go back to it. So a heroin addict can recover, and it doesn't take a lifetime.


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Patriot Quest 3 years ago from America

I have had a gambling addiction for several years now. I never understood addictions and how they could control a person. As horrible as my addiction is I can't imagine heroine. I remember doing coke once and the next morning wanting more. I knew ME and knew I would destroy my life on it , therefore never touching it again. Great read, voted up and interesting.


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handymanbill 3 years ago from western pennsylvania

Hey good hub. Well written to bad the video links no longer work. Very informative.


Hurting 3 years ago

Debbie, thank you for giving me a tiny fragment of hope. I didn't know I was dating someone who was using heroin until a couple of months ago. We split because I found out after she stole money from me. I am heartbroken and have set her free, but I still love her and hope that one day she might live without the chains she's bound herself in.


Jfreed 3 years ago

i just buried my brother a month ago... A heroin battle of over 20 yrs....I have seen it all and although I wanna stray positive I must say, heroin I like getting cancer, it may go into remission but in the end it will get your or a complication from it (ie; Parkinson's , other nervous system issues) I'm sorry but I refuse to believe that any can recover ....


anonymous 3 years ago

just cause your brother didn't doesn't mean the rest of us are that weak


fu 3 years ago

your retarted. and you will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever understand because your not a heroin addict. I am and it blows and you never get rid of it and you can suck my dick. Thanks for letting me share


78anonymous 3 years ago

my son is a heroin addict. I have seen it all, watched my son get sick, anger white as a ghost, brought him to emergency room for blood poison from needles. before all this, I was giving him $, need food,gas pay a fine, register car, so on and so on. at that time I didn't know he was in the heroin. lots and lots of $. 3 grams a day, arrested,in jail for the weekend, out and back at it. then up to 5 grams a day, back in jail for 11 days, out , now wants help but cost, $6,000.00-$10,000.00 !!!! haahaa ya okay, along with a waiting list. on the news they stated they have to turn them away because of a long waiting list. so, now what! they also had a show on heroin, candy coated it. this is serious and out of control in the united states. my opinion- be graphic so these kids know what exactly heroin does to you and the results. I had no clue, heard a lot, so to really understand I googled, graphic heroin addict videos!! made me sick, and what I heard and watched and listened is exactly what is happening to my son. something an addict never knew the full extent and a parent shouldn't need to see and I found out the hard way, trying to help is enabling. my trying to help did more harm than good. so the post from fu, you are sooooo rite!!!


78 anonymous 3 years ago

and as for fu, that statement is soo true, ppl that are not a heroin addict, don't judge because you really have no possible way of understanding. google the videos and watch and listen to these heroin addicts and it will open your eyes! just saying.


anonymous 3 years ago

Lisa, sadly I don't think you will ever read this and that's a damn shame. Either you wont read it cause your ignorant ass already went blind or you just think your so much better than everyone else. Its ironic that you actually made the effort not only to state your opinion on how "worthless" these addicts are but also to put your story up which is also just begging for people to feel pity. And guess what now I feel no pity at all. I want to state that every addict was at once also an innocent body. If you have never dealt with an addict than you truly don't understand what its like. They WANT help and Still sometimes cant beat the disease. Yes the DISEASE. That's what it is and that is how it should be treated. I do not want pity for my story but want to inform people on this horrible disease. I am 19 and a normal functioning college student. Normal meaning a girl who just lost her brother to this disease a year ago. My brother had a child and a life before this disease took over. He was that guy everyone wanted to date cause he would do anything for the people he loved. This is until heroin took over. He lost his sanity and did things no one would be proud of but never once would I say that he is worthless. You really need to research some more and maybe find out that you are not just hurting the addicts out there but the families by your harsh words. We lived through this Hell and one thing I have learned is that everyone is worth it. Every person has a story. Some worse than others. I personally think death is a lot worse than being blind. I would go blind to have my brother back. As Im sure many other people would do for their loved ones. Just please stop being so ignorant and selfish and learn more before you open your big mouth. There is hope everyone. Even though I lost my loved one to this disease doesn't mean you will. Don't give up and tell your loved one how much they are loved daily. That is one thing that cant hurt, is being told you are loved. Be strong but remember that they are struggling and yes boundaries need to be made but they must know people still love them they are human just like you and you know how nice it is to be told you are loved. You can get that person back. DON'T GIVE UP ON THEM. Hope this helped at least one person.


thejule28 2 years ago

This thread is extremely old, but I am wondering if anyone can tell me if they know of any successful story of a heroin addict who is actively in recovery... and has been in recovery for years. I would like to know if it is possible. I doubt it is, but I am just curious.


MehAnon 2 years ago

thejule28

I am! I was addicted to heroin for 3 years. I feel great today! And every day. There are no more ups and downs. But omg, it took years of sobriety to get here! This wiki page helped me so much in understanding why it was taking so long: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-acute-withdrawal...


MehAnon 2 years ago

Ronald

"You have to use it at least half a year on a daily basis to get fully hooked. Why do people make such an effort?"

No, after about a week of constant use you'll feel withdrawals, but they do get stronger the longer you go on. Heroin allows you to feel like you have accomplished all your life's dreams, goals, and desires, and more, in an instant. The first time I injected heroin, I cried because I was experiencing the best feeling I will probably ever feel in my life.

How did I get to that point? I had a ton of personal problems, and I never thought I would accomplish anything in life, so I figured why the hell not at least feel good about myself for a little while. It was a pretty logical decision. I was wrong in thinking I could never accomplish anything in life or be a productive member of society, though.


danielle 2 years ago

As a 12 stepper I have a massive recovery community and know people who have been abstinent for 20 years plus. The title of this article is ridiculous as an addict myself I know its hard but it is extremely doable. I know so many people In long term recovery a d articles like this take hope away from the still suffering addict.


confused ugh 2 years ago

All of these make me feel so confused. My boyfriend of four years has been in and out of rehab countless times and everytime i think that it is going to work out "this time" . I am getting to the point in my life where i am wanting to have kids but I would feel so selfish to have kids with someone and put my kid in the same up and down yo-yo position that i am right now. I don't know whether to give up or keep trying .. Also hearing stats like 95% of addicts will OD makes it seem inevitable and makes me want to just spend as much time as i can before it does and makes leaving seem so much harder. If anyone has been in this position please help with advice anything.


Noj 2 years ago

I met my now ex and she hid her addiction for months, she was an amazing person and loving person. I didn't know she was in recovery. Anyways, we planned marriage and kids. Right before she got pregnant I found about her past and that she was on methadone. I decided to stay with her and support her with this, I do love her and still do to this day. But shortly after her getting good pregnant, which was planned, she relapsed, left the house and never came back. I had spoken to her a few times where she wanted to have an abortion because she didn't want C'S involved ( she has a 7 year old daughter) and take her children. To make a long story short, because she could not escape using drugs she aborted our child 15 weeks into the pregnacy. I haven't seen her in 6 months and neither has our mutual friends. I just hope and pray she is okay. I've never done drugs and I believe that I was a positive support person for her until she relapsed for some reason. This drug will make a person leave their kids, family, and all things that are good for them.


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Aplethora23 2 years ago from North Cali

You get an A for the effort. I would like to share with you though, that actually, Heroin Addicts DO Recover. They have to first realize, though that it is possible, and they have to have the desire. To say that a heroin addict does not recover would be a false statement. But I appreciate reading the opinions of people who have never been addicted to it, and how they perceive it. Maybe it is those kinds of popular opinions that motivate people like myself to work harder at recovering so that I can be one of the miracles who can prove you all wrong! (And I mean that with all due respect.) :)


sara casey 2 years ago

wow. so many of your comments are missing the big picture. its not about being a liar, a prostitute, or a thief. no i have never once done any drug, but my mom, uncle, grandparents, and almost every family member i have is either addicted to heroin or currently in prison because of it. I cant tell you why they do this, for i have been asking them this question for the past 5 years. "why are you doing this? What made you decide to start doing this?" its not a decision that just pops in their head, something that has tragically hurt them inside, or especially being around other people that are addicted as well, causes them to begin this road of destruction, or to relapse and continue. As for calling social services, that really rubbed me the wrong way because they took me and my little brother from the only family we ever knew and placed us with strangers. It broke us more than it broke her because never once did she quit or try. forget that methadone treatment or NA because she went to those.. and she went high off heroin. she "fought" for us, but she fought half heartedly, while still using. and when she lost, she kept using. In and out of prison for years, promising she would be clean when she came home, only to fuck up 3 days later. it is the PEOPLE that an addict surrounds themselves with. Ive seen her tell me to my face that she was clean and then get high in the other room. I agree 100% with the person that said "you have to be an addict to understand an addict." you are absolutely right. because i do not understand why i begged and cried and tried my hardest to save her when she didnt want to be saved. Addicts have a one track mind when they are using, find dope, get dope, use dope. and it starts all over. I really wish that heroin addicts, or any drug user for that matter, would sit back and fully understand how drug addiction affects children and families. We watch our mothers and fathers or uncles and aunts, kill themselves slowly and there is NOTHING we can do.. We take the risk of knowing there is a possibility that they might not be here tomorrow. whether its overdose or jail. and when youre gone we are left here to live life without you. without the person you used to be. thats the real issue with addiction.. the being left behind part..


Jd 2 years ago

10 year off dope

And other stuff.

Firs AA now

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Jd 2 years ago

Oh

Recovered heroin addict

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snow1 2 years ago

ah I have a fiance who is an addict his father was an attitude and his brother overdosed. Je has been an addict since fifteen. He says he loves me.but I doubt him. I have asked over n over again to get help.now he is in jail for five months. I wrote him an told him he needs help.but everyone says to leave me. But I honestly love him.I'm so lost..please help


jeff 2 years ago

This article is so full of misinformation. You can only die from withdrawing from sedatives and hypnotics like alcohol, benzos, barbiturates, and some other downers....you cannot die from heroin or opiate withdraw! And where is all the concern about other opiates? There are tons of people, a lof of them in regions of the country where heroin is practically non-existent, that exclusively abuse pharmaceuticals. A lot of these drugs are a lot more powerful than heroin and cheaper if one has a prescription. Main issue with heroin is that it can sometimes be unclean and the potency varies a ton...so one may be used to using a 20 bag a day of a certain purity, then they go get a 20 of new dope that is about 10x the potency...and bam, dead! I had been addicted to heroin for a few years, but somehow never brought myself to shoot up....but I can tell you from my experience with friends that using a needle is a whole other demon in itself! Number one thing that kills needle users is them being clean for awhile, relapsing, and going out and doing as much as they did before....when someone has little or no tolerance left, and goes out and does as much as they did when they did have a tolerance they usually overdose. This needs to be clear to addicts reading this....if you are clean, you relapse, PLEASE do not take that much...even $10 dollars worth could kill you if it is strong enough. I think this is also why methadone and suboxone is prescribed so much....it is there to reduce craving, but its primary benefit is that when people do relapse on heroin or other opiates it is nearly impossible for the to overdose because their tolerance is already high! Hate methadone because it has so many bad drug interactions(especially SSRIs) and actually kills a lot of people still. Suboxone is overperscribed but it does have its place with a lot of the people that take i t....it prevents them from overdosing and from getting high if they take a high enough dose...but even this stuff can be abused if not taken properly. And a lot of people do recover....even if they do relapse a couple times they can still get better. There are plenty of places you could move to, even within the U.S., where heroin is non existent...but of course the painkillers will still be there, but as long as you choose good friends and have the support of friends you families and dont go out seeking the drugs you should be fine.


leiabny6 2 years ago

Although you did offer some good advice for family members of a heroin addict, a lot of the information you provided is incorrect. I have been clean for 3 years. I injected heroin for almost 10 years and grateful I am still alive. Even though you feel like your going to die during detox, you won't. Also, I am living proof that addicts CAN recover. Having faith in God is the solution.


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luisj305 21 months ago from Florida

This drug is disgusting. I hope to see the day our entire nations people forget what it is. You do the drug you risk dying, but if you stop doing it...you risk dying ..darn it, just don't try it!!

If more drug related information were to be put out into the public it would really help prevent new users from experimenting.

Great hub Edward, very informative.


Shorty 19 months ago

I met the most wonderful soul through mutual friends a few weeks ago. We talked and hung out consistently and we both started having feeling for each other. We talked about EVERYTHING in the world and beyond.. I had never met someone so beautiful in so many ways. I found out he had been doing heroin (again) while we had been talking and it really freaked me out. I confronted him about it and we talked about how I could not see it continuing any further because it scared me so much. I was straight forward with him about how scary it was for him to be doing that and that it was going to ruin his life. Yesterday (five days later) he overdosed. He texted me a few hours before about how he missed me.... I am heartbroken. I truly see my love for him and the timing could not be more upsetting to me. We had stayed in touch and my gravitation towards him never wavered. I will miss him so terribly and I am finding it hard to not feel like I played a role in him doing so much and overdosing... I know I should not feel this way but the world lost an incredible person. When I told him I was scared of him doing heroin he said it scared himself... How am I going to move forward from this? I am at a loss. Thanks and everyone look out for each other.. this world is crazy


Stephen H 14 months ago

Actually, despite what the internet generally claims, though you may not die directly from heroin addiction, you can die from the complications that arise from the sheer trauma of it. My friend's appendix burst after a two year habit and he was rushed to hospital as a result and people have been known to die from severe dehydration and other complications such as perforated stomachs ect.


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Melissa Deibert 14 months ago

Heroin addicts can make a full and healthy recovery. I know this cause I am a recovered heroin addict. The key is having a strong will and the want to recover. Thing is as a human we can do anything we want to and will do nothing we really don't want to do. I look into my mirror every day and have for over 20 years now and remind myself where I was and where I do not want to be again. I quit cold turkey more than 20 years ago and I have looked back every day for more than 20 years as a reminder of the nasty person I was and the nasty person I no longer want to be. So to all those wandering it is possible but we as addicts need tough love. If there is no one in our life willing to give that tough love and no handouts, which are just enablers to the addictions we may just be stuck. I had both and I am here today to tell all that it works if you let it. The person in question has to want it for him/herself if it is going to work or the person trying to help will be drug down also. Therefor to all those trying to help a heroin addict you need to know when to let go or it will harm you as well as the addict in question.....


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Blogger5 8 months ago from Pakistan

Heroin addicts can recover and live a healthy normal life like us. Only in case the addict's family support him/her quitting the drugs.

The addict goes through a period of withdrawals which is physically as well as psychologically torturing. If the person is dedicated and form enough to quit heroine, its not impossible for him/her. However it is quite difficult though.


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