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Darlie Routier: Over Twenty Years on Death Row

Updated on July 27, 2017
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Polly is far from politically correct when it comes to justice. Truth means more to her than making fans; saying what they want to hear!

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Met as Young Teens

Darin was 17 and Darlie only 15 when they met.

Darlie Routier is an American woman from Texas who was convicted of murdering her 5-yr-old son, Damon. Her other son was also killed, though she was only tried for Damon's murder.

Some say there is more to this trial than the official investigation showed.

These three children were Darlie's only claim to financial gain as anyone knows. Worth much more to her alive than dead if that was her purpose.
These three children were Darlie's only claim to financial gain as anyone knows. Worth much more to her alive than dead if that was her purpose. | Source

Background

How long would it take to make all these wounds?

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Were these wounds self inflicted?
Were these wounds self inflicted? | Source

Darlie has no history of mental illness. She was not abusive to her sons. She was faithful to her husband and there is no fact from anyone saying differently on any of this.

Darlie moved to Lubbock as a teenager with her mom and stepdad. She met Darin in a Western Sizzlin' where her mother worked and so did Darin as a cook. He was 17 and she was 15 and they married four years later.

After moving to the Dallas area he began his own small company that tested electronic components and when he became a success in the early nineties, they bought a nice house and spent thousands getting it just how they wanted. Darin bought a thirty-foot cabin cruiser and a 1982 Jaguar. They went a little wild with their money and Darlie bought new boobs and flashy jewelry.

The neighbors never saw them as wild though. She had kids in and baked cookies for them. Those kids stood up for her against the accusation that she killed her sons. Darin and Darlie helped out a cancer patient neighbor with a mortgage payment and seemed to have a heart. Whose idea was that, I don’t know, but Darlie was baking the cookies.

All of a sudden their business went downhill and they got behind on their bills it is claimed. They owed $10,000 in back taxes and $12,000 on credit cards. Darin and an incomplete diary entry show Darlie was considering suicide a month before the murders. It was a fleeting thought apparently.

My doctor once asked me if I had ever thought about suicide and my answer was, "Hasn't everyone?" He laughed, for it is true. Maybe to different extents but if you know the world you have thought about it. If you have something you just think you can't face you may think about it, so I consider that pretty normal and nothing to even consider in anyone's sanity.

She had gone through the birth of a third baby and was trying to get off a little extra weight and at that age I think many of us go through a little something anyway. Like did we make the right decisions in life, have we chosen the right path? Thirty is coming up and to twenties that looks old! It is nothing serious but a little something as I say, and combined with all else going on with her she probably was suffering not abnormally from slight depression. That does not a murderer make.

Looking happy as always.
Looking happy as always. | Source

What the Jury Didn't Know

Darlie's Injuries

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Never brought to the attention of the jury were other things of alarm and great importance, including the pictures of Darlie's cuts and bruises on her arms taken when she was hospitalized the night of the murders. One juror told reporters he would never have voted to convict if he had seen the photographs. I would be sure others would have agreed. That is when I knew without a doubt! These are defense wounds, clearly. Yes, there were photos of the wound but this juror and the author who at first had Darlie guilty but changed her mind later said these really bad bruised photos were never seen by them. They did see the silly string plenty though which was an illegal entry into this trial!



"When they arrested Darlie, we just pretty much lost it," says Darin, and says they have never been able to grieve for their children but it is Darlie's husband and mother who have steadfastly continued the fight. They have appeared 10 times on nationally televised talk shows, printed up bumper stickers and have a toll-free phone number ( (888) 883-FAIR) appealing for donations and information that could help "find the real person who attacked Darlie and murdered her children." They have gathered support. Right now, they say, freeing Darlie is the only fight that counts.

Drake Routier looks just like his mother. The blue eyes, wide face, and his mother's mouth. The court took Darin's custody of the child, who was 7 months old at the time of the murders, simply because he defended Darlie! This is Texas law? His parents were allowed to raise the baby and he was given rights to visit him but still! Does this horror never end? If Darin is guilty of nothing how could they take custody of his child from him?

Darin and Darlie moved into her mother's home after the murders and lost the $200,000 house they built, also their 35-foot cabin cruiser, '86 Jaguar, plus some. Legal fees and bad publicity about the case ruined him financially. His electronics business, bringing a salary of $500,000 in 1995, lost 14 of its 17 clients and all its employees.

Are Her Injuries Authentic?

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She was a genius if she planned this one. So real looking.  Did she do this?Or this?Why would she put a planned bruise here, I wonder?Seems like a slight turn would be a clearer picture, doesn't it?
She was a genius if she planned this one. So real looking.
She was a genius if she planned this one. So real looking.
Did she do this?
Did she do this?
Or this?
Or this?
Why would she put a planned bruise here, I wonder?
Why would she put a planned bruise here, I wonder?
Seems like a slight turn would be a clearer picture, doesn't it?
Seems like a slight turn would be a clearer picture, doesn't it?
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One-sided Testimonies

There were many bad testimonies from people making Darlie look bad. There were no testimonies of the people who saw her much differently. Darin and Ms. Kee claim Darlie's trial mocked the judicial system. Evidence that would have cleared her was never presented, witnesses who could have contradicted the prosecution's assertions never testified, forensics testing was botched, and depositions were distorted.

Unidentified Fingerprints

Forensic fingerprint tests done after Darlie's trial still show that she is innocent of the crime for which she was convicted. A bloody fingerprint taken from her living room coffee table did not belong to anyone living in her home, and two more fingerprints in the utility room and door leading to the garage in which Darlie thinks the murderer escaped the Darin's home after attacking her and her two sons. No matter, repeated requests, the Court will not grant the evidential hearing necessary to investigate and evaluate this evidence.

Taken from the utility room door is a patent bloody fingerprint—this is the first one. Forensic fingerprint analyst Glenn Langenburg proved positively Darlin is excluded as the owner of this print. Darlin's exclusion as the source of this print indicates that an unknown third party not only deposited this print, but deposited it in blood, on the night of the murders.

The second print taken from this door is a latent print located below the patent bloody fingerprint. Latent print consultant Robert Lohnes checked this print in 2003 and said that it matched the second finger joint of Darin Routier on the middle finger of the left hand.

In addition, Langenburg currently is conducting a second examination of the bloody fingerprint on the utility room door to determine whether Darin Routier can also be excluded as the source of this print. If, as Darlie expects, Darin Routier is not the source of this print, Darlie definitively will have demonstrated that an unknown third party deposited two separate fingerprints, one of them in the victims' blood, while fleeing the scene on the night of the murders.

Other Unexamined Elements

Who Had the Most to Gain?

Insurance Scam Attempt

Darin Routier has admitted to trying to arrange an insurance scam, which included someone breaking into their home. He has admitted that he had begun the initial steps to arrange a break-in, but that it was to be done when no one was at home. No jury has heard this admission.

Surely any law would be all over this, how many ways could this be the answer? Maybe not even the way Darin meant it to be but caused with unlawful schemes. I could understand them suspecting him, I really could, and why don't they? I don't believe Darlie would even suspect him, but if I were Darlie I would have to give that some serious thought, but I think Darlie is as I say so much like my own daughter. Either a lack of intelligence or too much into her self, which does not equal a murderer. I keep waiting for my daughter to change and act more mature, but I suspect like Darlie it is just who she is. No changing.

"Birthday Party" Footage

The "birthday party" film that was viewed by the jury that made me think that is a killer, showed Darlie dancing on the graves of her son along with other family members, but did not show the hours previous to that scene when Darlie sobbed and grieved over the graves with her husband Darin. Why was the entire footage not shown?

Black Car on Night of Crime

Neighbors saw a black car sitting in front of the Routier home a week before the murders took place. Other neighbors saw that same car leaving the area on the night of the murders.

Missing or Damaged Evidence?

There was talk the police did not protect the evidence as they gathered it, possibly damaging its origins. Is this true? The investigators told the press that the screen was cut from the inside though it was later proven in court to be cut from the outside. Hm? Police investigated this? The investigators took the fifth amendment—what were they afraid to say? You know without doubt they are hiding something. How are law witnesses allowed to take the fifth? On their deathbed will just one of them spill the truth?

Where Was Darin?

When the paramedics arrived at the scene they said that Darin Routier was outside, but Darin was inside trying to save his children, so who was the man they thought was him? It was reported the testimony of the nurses was coached and rehearsed in mock trials by the prosecution prior to their testimony.

Cut in Darlie's Neck

Saying the cut in her neck was 2mm of the carotid sheath but external to the carotid artery was what Darlie's operating surgeons reported, and that the necklace she had on blocked the cut from going deeper, showing the seriousness and unlikelihood that Darlie did or even could have done this herself.

Found Hair

There was a pubic hair found in the living room. Whose? Did debris on the knife in the kitchen get debris on the knife from police in the kitchen investigating the murder, or did it come from the screen door?

Darin's Jeans

Darin's jeans had blood on them. Why did no one look into this? (Dear God! He is walking around free, he looks the more guilty of the two!) Sometimes I think children could run this world better. Does nothing enter the court's mind about this? Is it too late because they would be hanging themselves? Are they just that lazy? So they just pick someone so it's over?

Mistakes in the Court Report

The court reporter made mistakes in the manuscript so was there an improper read-back of testimony? Why is prosecution not forced to turn over evidence they have that should be available to both sides? Gee, anyone who watches TV knows this rule.

Reluctance for DNA Testing

WHY? DNA testing could put many of these questions to rest. Why is there such a reluctance to do the testing? Many, such as people interested in writing Darlie's story have come to her side and since then have run into convenience problems seeing her or were simply blocked!

Reasonable Doubt

An Incomplete Picture

Video shows....

Darlie changed hands to slit her throat?

Nurses had two different testimonies.

Claims certain photos were not seen in trial.

Bloody fingerprint not identified.

Missing transcripts from court papers...words changed to change meanings.

It is impossible to believe how much trouble the legal system will go to to make things turn out the way they want. Just knowing the jury did not see this picture is enough to get the woman a new trial, but no. Not only did she lose two children murdered but she cannot get back her youngest son. So one day she may get out and a big settlement. What about the ones who do things like this? Shouldn't they be locked up? I think so!

My View of Her Changed As I Got More Evidence

When I saw Darlie dancing around her children's graves, spraying silly string, laughing and acting so happy I thought, "of course she killed those babies," and I was filled with hate, seeing her acting this way and those babies of hers, murdered and in the ground beneath her.

I can't say that I accept this behavior even now but people are different and I know they are. It still doesn't make them guilty of murder. I really felt so guilty the more I listened, read, and learned. I am not the only one with a change of mind.

With Darlie, what I did not see was the same as what others did not see: Proof. How long will our rotten dirty judicial system keep getting by with having their say, right or wrong and hiding information to make things go the way they want? Why do they continually do this? What I and the jury did not see was Darlie's horrible cut and bruised black arms and hands: defensive wounds, without a doubt.

I have read many true crime books and this is almost a common thing, it has happened so often. The law wants to solve a crime so quickly some idiot decides how it happened and then makes sure it looks that way.

The Elements of Doubt

There are many things missing in this case.

  • Darin's admission of an insurance scam attempt.
  • The screen that was mis-reported as being cut from the inside.
  • Possible improper read-back of testimony to the jury by the court reporter
  • Apparent conflict of interested with the attorney that represented Darlie Routier at trial had an apparent conflict of interest, because he was said to have had a prearrangement with Darin Routier and other family members not to pursue any defense that could implicate Darin. This attorney supposedly stopped key experts for the defense from finishing forensic examinations.
  • The pictures of Darlie's cuts and bruises on her arms which were taken when she was hospitalized the night of the murders.
  • The prosecution's refusal to provide access to any evidence in their custody in the case.
  • No DNA testing.
  • Some writers who have interviewed Darlie Routier have decided to help her fight to get a new trial. Since reporting their opinions on her situation, they report that their ability to visit her has been blocked or made so inconvenient that little can be accomplished.
  • During the trial investigators invoked their Fifth Amendment rights against self-incrimination during cross examination, preventing the defense from rebutting their testimony. Why? This alone would be reason for disbelief and a new trial!

Was This Just a Witch Hunt?

My take on the case

Wake up. Watch your back. It could be prison, pain, mental, or physical cruelty that Darlie will get them for. The list goes on and they know it, and besides that, people like me who will not let anyone forget how accountable they are and how often.

Look at Jon Benet Ramsey, her justice, her family, her poor mother. All those years with their eyes never looking anywhere but at mourning parents. Now does anyone think of the father, the brother? Does anyone think their lives will ever be normal? How different is this case?

Someone runs in and makes a Great Basil Detective decision and that's it! Look no farther. The whole force there should have been fired. They ruined three peoples' lives and found no justice for Jon Benet. Big surprise.

We know there is no justice and we know it a little more every day. What is wrong with these people put there to protect and help us? Do they need testing? Who are they? Did they come from prisons as someone in California says theirs do? Maybe we should be investigating them. It certainly looks that way.

There are so many and I think I would believe here is a case Darlie has against them for sure. They are covering their butts, with no compassion or interest in finding the true criminal.

They just don't want it found out they were wrong and if they do, they may have to pay big, which someone above them is warning them about. But for them, they should have to pay or go to jail, just like what they have put this woman through. If she is innocent, they are guilty, but what ever happens to them, they have committed a crime and are still committing it right now as far as I am concerned.

I am sure the law would force them to turn over evidence . . . or will it go so long it all just gets lost? We have heard that one too many times, huh? Hopefully their hands will be forced eventually and that is when we should demand true justice. They have no evidence against this woman. She at least deserves a new trial with all the evidence. If she were a rapist she would get it!

Look at that woman's wounds. The jury never did. I am not sure whoever her lawyer was shouldn't be charged. Look at all he failed to bring up or show that jury. Isn't that alone enough for a new trial?

We seem to have either many ignorant or crooked people in this case, and even if Darlie gets her new trial and is proven innocent and compensated (and how is that possible?), these people will never have to pay.

They may give them a vacation with pay until everyone forgets. There is so much of the judicial system in all of America that needs a serious investigation of why they are the way they are and in my opinion, much of America needs a clean sweep.

Some Things This Video Covers

No witness

No motive

Bloody fingerprint reality

Two who say dark wounds not shown

Darin failed polygraph saying he did not stab Darlie

Darlie unaware few minutes that she is even wounded

Diane Sawyer - A must watch!

Darin Describes How Cops Ruin Crime Scene

Compare emotions of each parent as they speak of their sons.

Problems with this case!

Older video but full of reasonable doubt!

Facts for doubt

Doctors and Nurses Have Two Stories

© 2010 Pollyannalana

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      Pollyannalana 2 days ago from US

      Annie-Who knows really. The clothing was contaminated wasn't it? Put in the same bags. Could whoever murdered them set her up? Especially if it was Darin wanting to make it look like she did it? I mean I am sure he did some planning having the dog locked away, so why not? That really does not worry me at all.

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      Pollyannalana 2 days ago from US

      MForbes - They made Darlie look like a tramp not a murderer, and that is exactly why she was convicted. That and someone helping her look like a nut...in which case she should have been tried as one.

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      Pollyannalana 2 days ago from US

      Lameduck many of us share your feelings and if Darlie is ever released she deserves millions. I just hope she is smart enough to get far as she can from her family other than her son.

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      Pollyannalana 2 days ago from US

      Simon, you do have a lot of truth there and I cannot blame you for your feelings. We do have some good law enforcement and good people there but they are getting harder to find, basically because the left has been running things too long and lawlessness is simply overlooked.

      I can never get over this female judge letting an illegal immigrant go that raped a little girl in home he was living in and because he claimed to not speak English and have no interpreter (although many right there claimed that was not true) she let him go. Where? Back to the little girl's dwelling.

      This sort of thing has many of us screaming but all we can do is try to change the leadership and hope for change.

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      Simon Harlow-Chalrton 3 days ago

      I have been following this case for years and find it totally unbeleivable and unacceptable that a so called " legal system" can operate with such incompetance and total bullshit from laywers who simply want to protect their own damned fucking lying shity lives that will will kill another human being rather than own up to their "mistakes". You in the USA badly need to look at your legal system, NOW because like it or lump it in America you are GUILTY until proven innocent. O P E N your eyes, get a real system working for the people in your country and STOP killing innocent people to hide your own inadequacies. My wife is American and I really did wish to move and settle there but with a bunch of idiots no better the chimpansies running the legal system there is no chance. My brother in law was shot in the head INSIDE his own home by an ex police officer because she didn't like him and grabbed the opportunity when it presented itself. For God's sake, please wake up you hypocritical bunch of so called law enforcement officers and your gee whiz lawyers and smell the coffee.........And the truth!

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      annie doro 4 days ago

      How did Darlie get the boys blood on her shoulder then? & I'll never understand how Darin slept though it all. Just so coincidental kids downstairs sleeping & a intruder kills them first?

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      MForbes 6 days ago from gatesville

      Pollyannalana I agree with you Polly, they don't want to look at Darin but they are sure to judge Darlie. Darlie didn't attack Darin and she would have gotten over 350 thousand dollars. So why not attack him first then the boys then herself? The whole theory the prosecution came up made no sense what so ever. She was broke losing the house and credit cards and she just happens to not harm the only person who could have changed her lifestyle? What the hell was that jury thinking?

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      Ben Stapley 6 days ago

      Their own house knife cut the screen. The evidence proves beyond a doubt she staged the scene. This report is extremely misleading

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      Lameduck1 7 days ago

      Not only was Darlie convicted on The bases of the Silly string video mainly, how could she have a fair trial when her lawyers could not question the 2 lead investigators because the judge instructed them and they plead the 5th. It is so sad that she has never been able to hold Drake even through his cancer. Greg Davis is nothing more than an arrogant jerk. How can he possibly think he can even begin to know Darlie. Just because she cares about her appearance does not mean she is guilty. My prayers continue to be with Darlie and her spporters.

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      Pollyannalana 7 days ago from US

      Yes, Wendy, there were many, many reasons to suspect Darin over Darlie. Boggles many minds why he was never even suspected but since they took his baby from him I think they soon knew the truth but could not back down. I hope he finally faces the piper...on this earth...am sure he will on the next.

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      Pollyannalana 7 days ago from US

      Tresa, do you have any reason why? There was minimal insurance on the boys. As I have read part of the marital problems were over Darlie wanting to look and act more like a mother for her boys. She was tired of playing sex object for Darin. She may have had problems when this happened but most look to me to be coming from an over sexed, money loving husband. He would be the one to benefit from her death. He was in need of money and as I have heard...Darlie was threatening to leave him...or kick him out.

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      Wndyandrsn 8 days ago

      I'm not surprised at all about the medication. That was during a time that doctors had no qualms about throwing a band aid over a problem, usually way over prescribing, at that. I must admit that I haven't read much about the theory about the husband. I do remember reading about the marital problems and financial issues, so he's as much a viable suspect as anyone. Heck, maybe he even hired someone. We just may never know. It's just so scary that something like this could happen to anyone and them, being the victim, could turn around and find themself on death row.

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      Pollyannalana 8 days ago from US

      It is a fact Darlie was on ant-depressants and talking some stupid stuff. I have always thought someone helped make her look guilty with this very thing and how easy would that have been for her most trusted friend (and husband)?

      I seriously believe he fed her ideas and probably upset her on purpose to make her look guilty. I mean he is saving himself so why not, he certainly wanted rid of her and that failed.

      Why would a mother, husband and lawyer let them get by with having her convicted because the prosecution made her look like a tramp, therefore murderer. It should have been so easy to get a retrial on that alone, not to mention the dozen other things.

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      Wndyandrsn 9 days ago

      I have read a lot from this, saw many of the re-enactments on TV. I must say, they like to show the "silly string" thing. That has never fazed me at all. I have never felt that Darlie was guilty at all. Just my opinion. But it makes me really sad that she's lumped into other child murderers, although, I know some would say that she was convicted, but I believe hers was very unjust. Too many unanswered questions here, especially for a human being's life on the line. You can't say a person is guilty of murder simply because they put on a game face for the masses, knowing they were on display, and God knows what kind of antidepressants they were probably on, just trying to honor their child.

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      Pollyannalana 10 days ago from US

      Thanks Zo...many of us agree with you!

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      Zo 11 days ago

      Reasonable doubt is there. So she shouldn't get the death penalty. She shouldn't even be convicted. Yep cicumstancial evident only saids to me I think she did it. Which is BS

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      MForbes 3 weeks ago from gatesville

      No worries Polly, just worried about you. Haven't spoken in awhile. I wrote a couple of new hubs. Thought you might enjoy. Good to hear from you.

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      Pollyannalana 3 weeks ago from US

      Sorry M, have not even been to my email in weeks. Will check it soon and get back to you.

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      MForbes 3 weeks ago from gatesville

      You are right about that Polly. I havent heard from you as late. I hope you are well, miss talking to you. I posted a new hub with some goodies in there, hope you will find the time to read it. I would love to hear your opinion. Hope we talk soon.

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      Pollyannalana 3 weeks ago from US

      Guess we would have to be on death row with no help from the outside to know what we would do. Let's hope it never happens to one of us.

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      Carol 3 weeks ago

      How can anyone make excuses for this woman she killed her own children!! what kind of mother does that, there is no justifying killing your own child and jumping around her children's grave how unacceptable I would have fought for the DNA testing of the crime scene I would have pointed out everything wrong with the investigation if I didn't kill them

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      Pollyannalana 4 weeks ago from US

      Sounds like a winner to me Lameduck and if someone wants to start a petition to Trump I will surely sign it and put it out there all that I can.

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      Lameduck1 4 weeks ago

      The whole investigation was a farce. How many people stomped through the crime scene before it was photographed, sketched or items were gathered for testing. How many items were placed in each bag causing cross contamination, I know people may be sick of this but Darlie's defence was a joke and the only thing the prosecution had to do is play the famous tape. The crown must have some doubt or Darlie would have been executed by now, Maybe someone should approach President Trump to pardon her. Even if she did do this she has done her time in prison and in public opinion. Maybe they will straighten things out and throw Casey Marie Anthony in jail and let Darlie out.

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      lindaf3 4 weeks ago from Amsterdam, The Netherlands

      Well Mister Waddell if your spelling is always that bad.. I am wondering how many other mistakes you made and make... Its : Ridiculous not Rediculous. A policeofficer should know the difference..

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      MForbes 4 weeks ago from gatesville

      I am no expert on cpr training or procedures, but I do know this. Darin claims to an expert. He bragged about how he has over 7 years of cpr training.

      Officer Waddell said that he came into the house and he looked over at Devon and knew he was dead. He also said he looked at Damon and Damon was moving on the floor looking around the room.

      Here is the thing. Waddell didn't know this at the time, but Darin already did cpr on Devon for over three minutes before Waddell arrived at the house. He did cpr on Devon when Devon was still alive. From what I understand about cpr procedures you DO NOT do cpr on a child who is still breathing on his own. If you go to the 911 call. Devon is alive when Darin goes over to him. He isn't moving but he is alive. according to Darlie. Several seconds later after Darin had been administering cpr to his living son, Darlie goes back to that boy and now he is dead. She screams out on the 911 call. Oh, Devon no, Devon is dead. Darin knew by administering cpr to his living and breathing son, he was drowning him in his own blood.

      Not only that, Darin knew Damon was injured. He knew that boy needed pressure put on his wounds to stop the bleeding, but instead of instructing Darlie or officer Waddell to do that, Darin completely ignores Damon. In fact, he ignores that boy for over 7 minutes.

      So now we know that Darin deliberately did cpr on Devon knowing it was obstructing his breathing, then we also know that he denied not only Darlie any assistance, but he also denied Damon any help what so ever.

      Had the police investigated Darin, or even listen to the 911 call they would have known immediately what Darin had to his family.

      Darin made up several excuses as to why he never helped Damon, first he said he didn't know he was hurt, we all know that was a lie. Then he said he didn't help Damon because he had no pulse, that made no sense specially when he admitted to Greg Davis he never even touched his son Damon. Then Darin changed that story and he said that his cpr training told him not to turn Damon over. Well, that did not prevent him from putting pressure on Damon wounds, or even telling Waddell or Darlie to do it.

      When Waddell arrived Darin fled out that front door with the intent of deliberately delaying help to his dying family members.

      He not only ignored and walked past Damon and Darlie once, not twice but over three times never touching or helping either one of those victims.

      Darin did that horrific cpr on Devon in front of Waddell just for show. He did that to distract, shock and as an excuse not to help Darlie or Damon.

      All the police had to do was listen to that 911 call and all Darins lies since the attack and the story speaks for itself.

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      MForbes 4 weeks ago from gatesville

      Waddell, You are forgetting that you were taped on that 911 call. Darlie said nothing to you at all about her jewellery when you first arrived.

      Secondly, Darin was not doing cpr on his son to save his life. Darin did cpr on Devon for over three minutes before you even arrived at that house. Darin has seven years of cpr training. He knew that Devon was alive when he did cpr the first time. He knew he drowning his son in his own blood. When you arrived Damon was laying there alive moving. Darin deliberately went right past Damon to get to his already dead son.

      You should be ashamed of yourself. You not only lied on the stand and should have been charged, but you also denied the living victims any assistance.

      You said you told Darin to go over to Damon because you said you could see Devon was already dead. You said you didnt understand why Darin went past Damon and went over to his dead son. Both you and Darin denied Damon any assistance. You were so shocked that you allowed Darin to play you the fool.

      Darins actions drown his son Devon, and his refusal to help Damon also cost that son his life. Then Darin lied about not knowing Darlie was injured. You knew bloody well Darin was outside yelling someone stabbed my wife and kids. You knew he knew Darlie was seriously injured and she was bleeding to death.

      SHAME ON YOU WADDELL

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      Waddell 4 weeks ago

      First off in the middle of everything that had just happened, as a parent you would never give up and assume your child is dead. Nobody knew for sure he was already gone at that point. Second there was not a child walking around and if there was he certainly would not have needed CPR. Darin, like me probably assumed that Darlie was going to assist her other child.

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      Pollyannalana 4 weeks ago from US

      Was that on both his sons or the one he already knew was dead? Why did he not do CPR on the one walking around? The one who went to his mother (who supposedly stabbed him) and not his father?

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      Waddell 5 weeks ago

      I usually dont respond to these rediculous conversations but I don't know where ms Forbes is getting her information on who said what inside the house. Darlie was the one asking me about her jewelry being stolen and Darin was doing cpr trying to save his sons life. The transcript is an accurate account of what took place.

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      Pollyannalana 6 weeks ago from US

      He will eventually for sure. It will be way more than a 20 year sentence.

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      Jonid 6 weeks ago

      Hi Polly, Darin is a worm, an evil spiteful evil worm. I hope he gets what he deserves and soon

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      JezMyOpinion 6 weeks ago from The South

      DNA confirms her guilt:

      https://youcouldbewrong.files.wordpress.com/2014/0...

      Darin knew what she had done the second he saw the boys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDQOAj1LeqU&t=...

      In an update to her case, Darlie and her attorneys have conceded that she is the only possible killer, as noted by the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals on May 21, 2003. A request for retesting forestic evidence was granted on June 18, 2008. During the Summer 2014 a judge ordered for more forensic testing again. That testing was completed in June of 2015. Only unidentified thing is a smudged finger print that is Darlies size, just too smudged to id.

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      Pollyannalana 7 weeks ago from US

      I am so pleased to see people finally looking at Darin for the worm he is. Even before I suspected him (so many years ago) he was a real creeper talking about his dead son he played with instead of seeing to his son who was alive. I think even Darin lover's are having to back off with so much pointing to Darin! The real shame is Darlie's mother supporting him instead of her own daughter.

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      Jonid 7 weeks ago

      I wish there was something we could do about getting Darin exposed. More and more people are really starting to suspect Darin. Once you see a few of his interviews and you start to look into him, the more the evidence points to him killing his boys. I think its only a matter of time before he is exposed for the murderous monster he really is.

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      Pollyannalana 7 weeks ago from US

      I so agree with you Jonid but who is it going to take to ever make a deny in these efforts? The case is so old many have no idea what is going on with Darlie and fewer know of these little tidbits about Darin leaking over the years. I really wish there was something we could do!

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      Susan kelly 7 weeks ago

      Just watched the program obviously there is reasonable doubt. A 're trial is a must, this is a life which is going to be taken. Justice real true justice!! Also the husband is very suspect, could he have hired someone? He had a lot to gain with the life insurance policys and failed

      The polygraph test!

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      Jonid 7 weeks ago

      Polly, you are a wonderful lady. Love the honesty in your article.

      Personally, I believe Darin murdered those boys. I also believe there is enough evidence out there to prove this without any doubt what so ever.

      I say let Darlie go, and give her a new trial. Make Darin the prime suspect and he will be convicted of murdering his boys as well as the attempted murder on Darlie.

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      Pollyannalana 7 weeks ago from US

      Thank you Amanda for sharing that with us. We all are different and as a matter of fact Darlie was crying in the first video that the prosecution wanted to not have seen. I saw her with her head on her sister's shoulder, mourning her sons. Some just see what they want to see.

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      Amanda 7 weeks ago

      To me it makes perfect sense why she would spray silly string and act happy. She must have believed that her boys were watching her and she wanted to be happy for them. It is like what all good mothers do, put their children's happiness before their own and that's what it looked like Darlie did until the very end. A bond between a mother and child is the strongest form of bond in the world.

      When my mom died we had a service that celebrated her life and happy memories. I was smiling the whole time cause I wanted to be strong for my brother when I was dying on the inside. My dad told me to stop smiling because it was weird...i just hate crying in front of others so I smiled instead.

      I see Darlie' s fun tribute to her sons as something a lot of mothers would do. I know if my mom was in Darlie's shoes she would do that for me and my brother. I would have done that if I was in Darlie's shoes.

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      Pollyannalana 8 weeks ago from US

      I hope you are right but anything is possible. If anyone comes up with any new clear evidence they may decide to. This is the most corrupt judicial bunch I have ever looked at.

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      Pollyannalana 2 months ago from US

      Yes John, Darin was more than a little suspicious, why many of us wonder why the police seemed to refuse to even consider it may have been the only person these murders and attempted murder would benefit. Texas might be big but sounds like some peanut brains.

      Saffron - You make some great points and I have always said if she did indeed murder them then of course she was prosecuted in a very wrong way for no one has even tried to prove Darlie was the type person to do this so surely out of her mind if guilty and she should have been given mental help besides being sentenced in that manner...but then maybe this doctor would have helped prove her innocent and they sure did not want that. I think they knew they had made a mistake before the trial was over, they took Darin's baby...they knew he murdered the boys. Or had it done.

      FreakRobinson - Darlie has been given the death penalty and has been on death row over 20 years now. You are right, for some reason the ones who blame Darlie have a one tract mind and will look at no other theories. Sad. Dangerous type people too.

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      FreakRobinson 2 months ago

      I wonder what's gonna happen to her?, if she's given the death penalty I will confirm the country has a poor justice system, the evidence Texas doesn't want to see is mounting and one day if god wants it will see the light.

      Some people use the silly string footage to show how cruel she was nothing more than that, so I have a simple question for them, if she was so cruel to make a birthday party at the cemetery where her boys were buried as you said why on earth didn't all of you blame the other family members too?, appart from her husband.

      There were other people who didn't stop Darlie and the idea of the silly string wasn't even darlie's, I heard it was her sister's. So her sister is the person you should actually point the finger not Darlie.

      I'm sure she was wrongly convicted but also think she will not be given the death penalty because there are a lot of doubts and the prosecutors are afraid.

      I can imagine the day when the state announces Darlie was killed by lethal inyection, there'll be a lot of hysteria. don't ya think?

      What would you do if they execute Darlie?

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      SaffronSugar 2 months ago

      I have been researching the story of Darlie for awhile. This really was a witch hunt. There is no proof and definitely not enough evidence against her to convict. I agree that Darlie seems shallow and a bit of a child (I hope your daughter doesn't read your negative view of her, that certainly won't help her to become the woman you would rather she be) but this does not make her evil.

      How was the husband missed?! He had participated in dodgy schemes before with the car, several people interviewed have said this and it could be true. He may have owed, or been involved, with some very unsavory people. This could have been revenge or a set-up gone wrong.

      When we look at the Susan Smiths and the Andrea Yates type murders, we see women who killed their children and then were considered mentally ill. These women, with no previous violent histories, did not get the death penalty. But from the start Darlie was seen to be sane and guilty. Now I don't think she did it, but those who believe she murdered her children are also positive that she was of sound mind.... it seems that they just didn't like her.

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      John 2 months ago

      I just saw a documentary on this case. The evidence against Darlie seemed overwhelming. I haven't done much research on the case so I can't really determine guilt or not. I am curious about a piece of evidence that didn't make sense. A sock with the blood from the two boys wss found outside near a trash can. How did it get there? Did Darlie go outside, drop the sock, then reenter the home? Also, Darin didn't ask about the boys when the police first arrived. Apparently he made some ridiculous comment about how hot Darlie was and he could understand why someone would assault her. Seems very suspicious to me.

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      Pollyannalana 2 months ago from US

      Why would he have a big insurance policy on her and keep it paid up while having debt problems? And no, the dog did not show up until his last trip upstairs. It amazes me those two things did not get him instead of her. Ridiculous.

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      Bmcnair 2 months ago

      I must have missed the details of her asking for a divorce and the dog. I could never see Darin considering murder of the only woman he ever loved and two of his children he loved dearly.

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      Pollyannalana 2 months ago from US

      Bmcnair - That is possible, if you want to overlook all the facts like the insurance he had on Darlie and not himself, her asking for a divorce, the dog not showing up until it is all over. Those are indisputable facts but just hearing him talk about the one dead son that he does love to go on and on about doing the CPR, gave me cold chills and I have never forgotten his attitude about it all. This did not look like a mourning father to me and I knew right then he had something to do with it, whether he did it himself or not. And why did he not help the only living son who was not going to him but to Darlie for help?

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      Bmcnair 2 months ago

      Granny, statements assuming Darin is guilty is pretty much what put Darlie in the situation she is in. I don't think either one of them did it. The unknown finger print in blood is still not answered. Darin worked for me during the time his first two boys were born. We both were new fathers and most of our conversations were about every little detail of what our kids were doing as they developed. He loved those boys very very much.

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      Pollyannalana 2 months ago from US

      Thank you Granny. How can anyone of sound mind not have reasonable doubt here? A murderer is walking free and clear and no doubt accomplices.

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      Granny Cathy 2 months ago

      I just watched death row and heard about this for the first time. Reminds me of Australia's Lindy Chamberlain case. If I had not read this report and all the comments I could have thought she was guilty but all the fingers point to Darin....how can they not see that. And I wondered if they proved her wounds were self inflicted.... Many unanswered questions.

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      Pollyannalana 2 months ago from US

      I prejudged Darlie just reading and hearing about this silly string incident until I saw the broader picture. I cannot understand anyone who cannot look at the whole thing and be able to change their view. I am proud that I could and did.

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      Bmcnair 2 months ago

      I knew them both back then and they loved their children very much. I believe the investigators focused on her and proceeded to say and do whatever had to be done to prove they were right. About the scene at the cemetery, I remember being at a graveside service and after a time of sadness, talk turned to the fun and funny memories of the person in the ground. We were all laughing at the crazy stuff that person had done. I think that is a fairly common occurrence.

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      Pollyannalana 2 months ago from US

      SS - Couldn't agree with you more. A very poorly done prosecution and defense! She never had a chance and we were all assuming those who loved her would look out for her and now my puzzlement at that time why no one shut her up is pretty much solved. It was not her they wanted to protect!

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      Sabina Sykáčková 2 months ago

      I thing Jeff the Dopp211 probably didn't want answered you because he must know that your info is correct. Too many evidences show that she is innocence.

      Why police didn't see any leads to another possibilities- tunel vision. Very bad trials etc. = sad story and sad for law and human rights

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      Jeff Hertzberg 2 months ago

      I am shocked by the 36% of morons that are STILL somehow convinced of this woman's innocence. My guess is that they haven't bothered to read or review the blatant, undeniably exculpatory evidence in this case. Idiots are desperately hanging on to the hope that our legal system is infallible. Just the fact that this woman was stabbed in the throat with her necklace having to be surgically removed from her neck, and the proof that it was the only fluke that saved her life, stopping the knife a centimeter from her carotid artery. Instead, a very minor and specially selected clip of an otherwise exculpatory video, was used to beguile and undermine the common sense of the jurors and play on their emotions. The extensive, impossibly inflicted injuries, zero motive, the 911 phone call, the foreign fingerprints, impossible timeline, the sock tainted with the blood of both boys found unexplainably far from the scene... This is another case in which law enforcement and legal system ignored any other lead, and pursued/distorted a senseless, ridiculous and impossible scenario to trick a jury and get another win, no matter how unscrupulous, knowingly allowing a child murderer to run free. They are obviously afraid to retry this case, and as usual, their reputations and admissions of fallibility are far more important than the truth, justice, human lives, and and a legal system with integrity. Sadly the power and narcissism held by officials and authorities and their abject zealousy, leads to frequent legal misconduct, corruption, tunnel vision, and malicious perversions of their duty and authority. I have heard the arguments from the prosecutorial side as to why this case shouldn't be retried, and the are just uncompelling, regurgitations from the original case. The evidence speaks for itself, and nobody on the prosecution's side has offered or even addressed how there is any possibility that there could be another guilty verdict if there was a new trial. Even the original jurors are ashamed of their verdict. These prosecutors and police should be facing life sentences. The 36% of people that still support her sentence can not be intelligent by any means, and I would love to hear their common sense defying arguments for her guilt, and explanations of the overwhelming evidence pointing to her innocence. I truly don't think they care, just like the authorities fighting to keep this evidence from the eyes and ears of a new jury

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      Pollyannalana 2 months ago from US

      dopp - On the very silly string tape you speak of that the cops recorded is also her somber and crying, but they made sure not to show that and yes, why didn't her defense attorney make sure that was seen? Good question. Telling too.

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      MForbes 2 months ago from gatesville

      Suggs Not even so much as a simple investigation into Darin. Very sad. I do believe he directed them to suspecting Darlie. The creep even moved in with her mother just to be close to the investigation and the case.

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      dopp511 2 months ago

      Um it kills me how they say "things not brought up at the trial". Wouldn't that be her defense lawyers job!!!! She testified at her trial. people who think she is innocent have no brain. She is guilty as hell. They said why did the jury only see her celebrating and spraying silly string at the trial. well if she was so somber and sad before the celebration why didn't her defense bring that into the trial, you stupid people just don't get it!!!! Rot in prison.

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      Pollyannalana 2 months ago from US

      Exactly, Suggs. Why was that not their first suspicion? He must have really been cunning in planting Darlie as the murderer in their minds.

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      Suggs 2 months ago

      I really really believe that the husband paid for a hit on his wife and kids. Surprise that angle never came up for the defense. He has the most to gain.

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      Pollyannalana 2 months ago from US

      Like you MForbes I started out screaming but as you know you cannot talk to the Darlie haters and they are not interested in evidence, especially against Darin.

      The police set it up to look like Darlie did it and made her look like a tramp and that is just enough for a lot of people, they don't want to look further but I so agree with you that if Darin did not stab his sons he was right there when it happened and may as well have.

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      MForbes 2 months ago from gatesville

      You have been Polly, I have so much respect for you and what you do. Unlike me you stay calm and don't let your personal emotions take over. I really enjoy visiting with you.

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      Pollyannalana 2 months ago from US

      Really it is ridiculous and I know if the right person sees all this information Darlie may finally get her break. We will sure work on that!

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      MForbes 2 months ago from gatesville

      You Polly, I am starting to think that we are not going to get anywhere unless we can put the knife in Darins hand. They had no solid evidence when they went after Darlie, but when it comes to Darin the entire crime is mapped out like a fingerprint. I just don't get how they all know what he did and no arrest is being made.

      Drake and Darlie should have been together years ago. Darin is still pounding his lies and fake stories of herioic cpr attempts. It just makes my skin crawl. The guy is just pure evil to the core. So full of hate. I believe this stemmed from the resentment he has always felt about his controlling mother. Who was that killer that killed his mother and a bunch of others because of the way she treated him?

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      MForbes 2 months ago from gatesville

      Thanks Polly, it is very frustrating that the police had gotten away with this. When I see Nabors evil lying face I want to puke. How is it even possible for a loser like that to still be on the police department? He is so desperate to make sure he sticks around and continues to cover up all the conspiracy and mistakes the police made. Sickening really.

      Did that portion on the affair prove to you she had more than enough reason to suspect Darin of cheating?

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      Pollyannalana 2 months ago from US

      I do remember reading that there had been a fight and Darin drove Dana home and it is beyond me how law can overlook all these facts you have brought up and in fact it should have been the first thing they looked at for he has every reason to be the one who is behind this.

      I will email you about the other and I have some very interesting info you may want.

      Soon as I can.

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      MForbes 2 months ago from gatesville

      I wanted to show you my new addition to my hub. Its a long one sorry about that.

      The first thing that drew my attention to this affair between Darin and Dana was I had read in Darin's statement on June 8th, that Darlie had made him take Dana home.  The hour was late and it was during a week day.  Darin had neglected to mention anything at all in that statement regarding the encounter he had with Officer Waddell outside, or any of the important details that happened after they entered the house, but he went into detail about driving Dana home.  Darin also never mentioned the fact that him and Darlie fought that night about this alleged affair.  He never told the police that Darlie accused Darin of having an affair with Dana.  Darin never told the police any details that would have made him look like the suspect.

      According to Darlie she said she asked Darin to drive Dana home late that night because she wasn't feeling well, but that  didn't make any sense to me at all.  So I dug a little deeper.

      If I was right about this affair, or the fact that Darin had been trying to seduce Dana, this was more than enough of a  motive for Darin to have snapped that night and decided to go ahead with his plans of ridding himself of his huge financial burden.  Darlie asked Darin for a separation that night.  If that were to happen Darin knew he would not only be financially crippled for years to come, but his chances with Dana would be reduced to zero.

      I knew that Dana had been staying there several days and had done this many times in the past.

      When I learned that Dana was now working for Darin at the shop it just confirmed my suspicions that there really was truth to this rumor.  Darin was broke.  They were behind on the mortgage, the bills, credit card payments, everything except for the insurance policy.  Darin made sure that insurance policy stayed in good standing.  Darin was even behind on the rent for the shop for his business. The rent was $543.00.  So how was  it possible for Darin to be able to afford to hire yet a second person in the shop, when he struggled to pay Barbara Jovell? 

      What was even more suspicious about Darin hiring Dana was the fact that he didn't just hire Dana.   He hired a nanny/housekeeper for Darlie. He hired Barbara Jovell's mother. If he couldn't pay his bills and he had no money, then how was it possible for him to have hired a nanny to come into the home and help Darlie?  The bigger question is why wasn't Dana there helping Darlie?  She was already staying in the home at the time, so why did Darin have to bring someone in to help Darlie?  I wasn't able to pin point exactly when the affair might have started, but I was convinced at this point that something was definitely going on. 

      This information I uncovered also confirmed that Darin was never investigated.  This would have been uncovered during any investigation and they would have been questioned about this affair, but they weren't.  This proves the police had tunnel vision towards Darlie.

      Darin made another comment about his interaction with Dana after he got home from work on June 5th.  Darin went into detail of how he had an encounter with this black car speeding past his home when he arrived home on June 5th, then he went into detail of how he went into the house and him and Dana decided to play with baby Drake.  Darin went into detail of how he took baby Drake into another room out of view of Darlie and the kitchen.  He said he took the baby there with Dana because there was carpet on the floor instead of hardwood.  He was concerned about Drake falling and hurting himself.  Dana spent all day with Darin, why wasn't she helping Darlie in the kitchen with dinner?

      Did I read that right?  Was Darin actually saying he was concerned about his 7 month old son playing on hardwood, yet he just got through saying he came home and was alarmed by this black car speeding past his home.  Damon and Devon were outside his home alone.  They were unsupervised riding their bikes.  This is a 5 and 6 year old child.  Darin had already expressed concerns to other neighbors about this car, he never informed Darlie of his concerns, but he made a point of telling the neighbors about it.  This whole situation stuck of Darins sneaky guilt.  I was sick to my stomach to know that the police hadn't even checked out this very important detail in Darins story.

      I kept searching to see if there was anything else that indicated an affair.  I learned that while Darlie and Damon were dying and Devon was laying on the floor dead in the living room left as evidence, Darin called Darlies sister Dana.  Of all the people he could have called, it was Dana.  I was shaking after reading this.  Could Darin have really been that evil, that cold?  Yes, he could have because he did make that call to Dana.  What makes this even more of a tragedy is Darin called Dana to have her call Barbara Jovell to go to his home to give that false police statement.  The first thing that came to my mind was that 911 call.  Throughout that entire 911 call Darin was not crying out about his family.  He was crying out loud enough so the 911 operator was convinced that there was an intruder in home.  He even got to the point where he was obstructing Darlie call with 911 to make it clear about the intruder.  The final straw was the last portion of the 911 call.  Darin is heard talking to the officer.  He is desperately trying to convince him and intruder took and he ran.  This guy was talking about items taken from the home by this so called intruder while Damon and Darlie are bleeding to death right in front of him.

      Darlie finally steps in and you can hear the anger in her voice.  She sternly tells Darin.  "This was deliberate Darin, some one came in here and did this".  Darin just kept this up arguing with Darlie.  She finally told him not once but twice.  There is nothing missing.  She wanted the focus to stay on getting an ambulance to her children, but Darin just kept pressuring them about the intruder.

      What most people don't realize is Darlie is on the phone with 911 still trying desperately to get an ambulance to the home, and she is being tended to by Waddell for her own wounds.  Yet Darin is standing there with 7 years of cpr training and he never went near is living son Damon.  He never touched that boy the entire time.  While he was standing there trying to make his insurance claims and convince the officer there was an intruder in the home Damon is laying there dying in front of him.

      The tone of Darlies voice at that time also confirmed to me that there was a lot of tension between her and Darin.

      Getting back to the phone call to Dana.  Darin knew when he called Dana to have her call Barbara Jovell to come to the scene to make a statement about the black car it was all false.  Darin knew the entire time that him and Barbara Jovell were behind setting up that black car to stalk the home.  This was about as cold as anyone could ever get.

      I kept my search up on any information of proof of an affair between Darin and Dana.  Then I came across a statement an older neighbor lady made about an incident at the house. 

      This was a reliable witness in my eyes.  This was an older lady. retired school teacher.  She said 12 days after the murders she witnessed Darin and who she believed at the time was Darlie, but we later learned it wasn't Darlie it was actually Dana at the home with Darin. 

      She was shocked at their sickening behavior.  Darin and Dana were in front of the house laughing and joking with each other like a married couple.  They were tossing the gifts that strangers bought for the boys into the back of Darins car.  They were laughing dragging the wreaths to back the  yard to the garbage.  Cleaning up the house just as though the crime was going to disappear with the garbage.  What was shocking was what Darin did next.  Darin took a flag laughing and joking and climbed up that fountain in his front yard and planted a flag on it.  He was acting like a love sick teenager, yet he was a 28 year old father, married who had just lost two children by being brutally slaughtered.  It was about the most evil coldest thing I

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      MForbes 2 months ago from gatesville

      What did you want me to send you?

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      Pollyannalana 2 months ago from US

      I didn't know that she did that. Please email that to me where I can read about that.

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      MForbes 2 months ago from gatesville

      You know Polly, at the very least the courts have to realize that Darin did manipulate Darlies defence. He never should have been told the lawyers strategy on implicating Darin. That trial should have played out the way it was investigated. The jury had a right to hear what Darlie was refusing to believe. They had to know that Darin had been feeding her lies and false information for years.

      Darin knew there was no investigation in to Greg or anyone else. He was buying his time until the trial was done.

      Darlie kee and Darin gave Darlie false information right up until the trial and even after. She trusted them, mostly her mother and that was the biggest betrayal there ever was.

      Nobody could imagine a mother could be that dark and that evil, but when you learn about Darlie kee and her allowing her boyfriends to molest her daughters, that is the ultimate evil.

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      MForbes 2 months ago from gatesville

      I don't get it Poly, I am pretty sure he is Bryan. He is all over the internet slandering and stalking people. Many have accused him of threats. Sclemmons has a posting there reveiling the persons location and internet provider. There is something seriously wrong with that person. He has allowed Perverton Wood to go onto his blog accusing people of being kkk.

      I do not understand how this stalking and slandering can happen. I have only posted facts on my blog. I have searched out information that is already out there on the internet for anyone to find. When ever they accuse me of lying, and then they find the truth, I don't hear from then again.

      What these guys are doing should be wrong. They are furious that I have exposed all the evidence and facts about Darin that the jury and the courts never to got to hear. They have bullied many people off this case and forced them to stay silent.

      For someone to go to this extent to try and hide the truth about Darin has to have a lot of personal involvement. Judging by what Darin went through in order to keep himself from being investigated or a suspect tells me he is behind all of this. I do know him and Bryan are friends, and now Bryans son murders a baby and there Bryan is trying to profit from this baby death and the sad life of his son. The whole thing is almost to sickening to be true.

      How do they allow these people to raise children. I just don't get it.

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      Pollyannalana 2 months ago from US

      Let me correct that to some of those. I believe SClemmons and I agreed to differ...whoever he is. There does seem to be an unnatural rage in some of the Darlie haters and the sad thing is if they would put as much effort in seeking the truth...then we might get it. There would be no doubt for anyone. I would never in a million years defend Darlie if I had one thread of doubt in her. I did not go in believing in her either, I sure thought she was guilty because I was believing all I was hearing and seeing on the news, but once I really got into the case and heard Darlie and Darin talk about their kids I had to have a closer and closer look and Darlie won out. In spite of all the crazy way she acted and talked, because I truly believe with all my heart Darin was behind all of that.

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      Pollyannalana 2 months ago from US

      I think here at HP you can block any outsiders from posting and well I am sure you can delete anyone but if they are a HP member you can indeed go to HP and report them and get them kicked out. HP are pretty good at keeping out the riffraff. I have had trouble with all those you mentioned but I do not speak to any of them away from this article although I have had some try such as at Facebook, etc. I simply ignore them. I would certainly go to authorities if I were you if personally attacked. They can advise you if not protect you.

      There are low life everywhere, we just have to avoid them when possible and never once trust them.

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      MForbes 2 months ago from gatesville

      Hi Polly,

      I wanted to talk to you about the stalking and threats from Sclemmons and his followers. I am pretty sure he is either Darin, or Bryan or maybe both.

      This guy has been stalking out anyone who goes to his blog and posts personal information about them. I have changed my name, my profile, my ip my provider, I have blocked my ip changed the location of my ip and this guy searches out whoever goes onto his site and he posts their personal information and the ip location.

      This isn't about the Darlie case for SClemmons, this is about him threatening and stalking people. I thought this internet bullying was illegal but apparently Hub does not have rules for that.

      It has been almost impossible to get information or the truth about Darin out there because of people like Sclemmons. They have been stalking and controlling this case and its information for years. Its beyond obsession. This is personal for them. I have seen and read posts from many other sites where this guy is accused of threating, stalking, lying. He is dangerous.

      I am not going to stop posting my findings or information.

      This is not and was never about the Darlie case for Sclemmons or who any of his other profiles. This is about him bullying anyone who is seeking the truth and brings up any information about Darin.

      Let me know if you can do anything about his stalking or threats. I am going to contact the authorities. There has to be something they can do.

      I haven't posted anything false about Darin or this case. What ever I have posted is already out there and is public information already.

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      MForbes 3 months ago from gatesville

      THIS IS WHAT THE POLICE MISSED HERE. This is the last part of the 911 call

      04:32:18 Police Officer ...what about you...

      Darlie only brought herself up once the entire time to say she thought she was dying. I believe that was the drugs in her system not her bleeding to death.

      04:34:18 Darlie Routier ...huh...

      It is obvious that Darin is right there with Waddell and Darlie deliberately interupting them trying to make his claims of an intruder. He has to be looking at his dying son at that point, but Darin never touches Damon. He never goes near is living son after he did that fake cpr on Devon before and after Waddell arrived.

      04:35:12 Darin Routier ...they took (unintelligible) ...they ran (unintelligible)...

      To really undertand the depth of how evil Darin really was you have to go back to the entire 911 call. The only words that ever came out of Darins mouth was something about the intruder. What he took where he went. Darin had never asked why not once.

      04:42:25 Police Officer ...nothing's gone Mrs. Routier...

      This was a deliberate misprint here. They knew for a fact it was Darin who was harassing the officer about the intruder and this being a robbery. That reporter who was fired intentionally put this in to raise suspicion on Darlie. It is clearly obvious it is Darin who is making those theft claims not Darlie.

      04:51:29 Darlie Routier ...why would they do this...

      Barbara Jovell admitted it was Darin and only Darin who asked her help set up the home robbery. Darlie had no idea about the history of that black car. The first she ever heard of it was when Darin brought in Barbaras mother to bring it up to Darlie just hours before the murders. Darin never asked this question. He never even asked where the intruder went.

      05:19:09 Darlie Routier ...somebody who did it intentionally walked in here and did it Darin...

      They put Darlies name in Waddells response to missing items, but it is clear that Darlie does not believe this was a robbery attempt. She believes this was an intentional attack to kill her and the boys, nobody paid attention to her words.

      05:23:05 Darlie Routier ...there's nothing touched...

      05:25:13 Darlie Routier ...there's nothing touched...

      Damon is on the floor dying, bleeding to death and here Darin is with Waddell and Darlie arguing making claims of theft and an intruder. I do not understand at all how it was possible for anyone let alone the police to realize right here Darin was behind this entire attack on his family. He never expected Darlie or Damon to survive. The only reason she is still alive is because she called 911 as quickly as possible. Darin knew he couldnt attack her after he came back into that house.

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      MForbes 3 months ago from gatesville

      Polly, doesn't it raise your suspicions why Darin has never mentioned or admitted that he ran into Waddell in the front yard just as he pulled up to the house?

      Darin has never admitted that encounter he had outside with Waddell, not in his police statement, any interview or any other time.

      Do you know why that is? Its because Darin had told Darlie kee and everyone else that he when fled the house he ran over to karens to get help, but we know for a fact by Mr. Gorsuch testimony and by Waddells testimony that is not what happened. Karen herself said Damon was removed from the house already when Darin went to get her, that is why she never understood why Darin came over to get her in the first place.

      On that Leeza show Darlie kee is defending Darin in every form over that statement. She is claiming it was the intruder who had left the home while Darin was over at karens, but the 911 calls proves that Waddell was telling the truth.

      Darin doesn't want anyone to know he did that second cpr in front of Waddell so he made up all those lies and those lies started two days after the boys were murdered.

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      MForbes 3 months ago from gatesville

      I have to tell you Polly, if I was told by a set of lawyers that they believed my son in law was guilty of the crime I would go to the ends of the earth to find the truth. Darlie kee never did that. This shocked me to the core. She has gone to great lengths to keep crucial information from the courts and the lawyers that prove Darins quilt and involvement.

      When DNA testing implicated Darin she hid that from the public. There is no way in hell that this mother can believe that Darin was not responsible.

      She knew about Darins rumors of robbing his own home to collect insurance and she stayed silent through the whole trial and years afterwards. What kind of a mother does that to her own daughter?

      I would have made sure the police knew absolutely ever detail of everything that went on before and after the attack. There is no excuse for what that monster of a mother did. For anyone to stick by her and support her collecting hundreds of thousands of dollars claiming its for Darlies defence is no better than Darlie kee herself.

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      MForbes 3 months ago from gatesville

      Yes Polly your right, they all do know. You know people ask me why would Darlie Kee a mother stand by and protect her son in law and allow her daughter to take the blame for the murder of her grandchildren. I would like to explain that if I may.

      Darlie Kee was married or dating a man who she knew molested her daughter. That woman stayed with him for years after she learned what he had done.

      Then this same mother was reported several times to police for violence in her home between her and her daughters. I believe that Darlie Kee was jealous of her girls.

      This same mother then took her 15 year old daughter to work with her to introduce her to her boss. I have always believed that Darlie kee had more feelings for Darin than just being a mother in law.

      To make matters worse Darlie kee teamed up with Darin and broke the gag order just for financial gain. Then they involved themselves together in a conspiracy to take away the only reasonable doubt Darlie had for her trial. They were both warned by the lawyers if they protected Darin and kept the truth and evidence against Darin away from the jury Darlie would be convicted. So what did they do, they hired Doug Mulder under the condition he wouldn't implicate Darin in the crime and didn't. He threw Darlie under the bus protecting Darin.

      For 21 years Darlie kee has being lying and protecting Darin and preventing the evidence against Darin from reaching the appeals court. She has done interviews where she bare face lies about a so called shirtless intruder leaving the home when she knows for a fact that intruder was Darin, he admits that in his police statement he wrote on June 8th.

      Then just to put the knife a little deeper into her back she allows Darin to move into her home knowing that Darlie suspected him of having an affair with underage sister. Darin was the one who separated Darlie kee and Dana when they were beating the crap out of each other before the police arrived. If this isn't the absolute betrayal of a mother and husband I have no idea what is.

      You are right about Drake not going with his dad. I don't believe Darin ever wanted custody of that boy. He was to busy seducing Darlies sister, the public came forward about Dana and Darins sickening behavior in public events after Darlie was arrested.

      Darin had insurance on everything, the house and victims. He didn't pay any of the other bills in the house, but that insurance policy was paid right up and active but the insurance company denied him payment. They demanded he be cleared and that they do a full investigation into his involvement. Darin didn't dispute that decision. He walked away from tens of thousands of dollars just to stop an investigation into himself. The police were warned about him increasing the coverage on the home and the victims and as usual they never followed up and they never investigated Darin.

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      Pollyannalana 3 months ago from US

      Certainly, that is why I have this article and I welcome real proof from anyone. Like the Darlie haters I must say without an ounce of proof I knew Darin was involved years ago hearing him talk about the CPR he did on his dead son. I could see the thrill in him and lack of love or horror and I knew right then he had no love for this dead son or sorrow for his death and that is what got me interested in it. Then when I learned about the dog and them taking his baby which they could not have done if they did not have something on him. So they all know he is guilty and he knows they know. It is all about money. Darin and Darlie Kee making all they can and Texas saving millions they would have to give Darlie for the horror they have put her though.

      Poor Darlie is just caught in the middle.

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      MForbes 3 months ago from gatesville

      Hi Polly

      I know I spend a lot more time on this than most. Since this case first hit the news I just felt like something was wrong. Every few years I just kept coming back it to trying to figure out what it was that bothered me the most.

      I think I know where I have gone wrong. I have been posting my information frantically trying to get people to understand what it is that I am trying to say.

      Where I am going wrong here is trying post 2o years of research in 8000 words or less. I would like to take one step at a time to prove to you that I am on the right track. I want to take one piece of information and break it down to you and explain why I believe Darin set Darlie up and murdered his boys.

      Hopefully I can provide the information to you accurately and you can help me figure out how I can get more people to realize what really happened in this case.

      I know you have followed this for a long time, and you have been very generous with your time in reading my posts. I would like to show you step by step what brought me to my conclusion that Darin did this.

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      MForbes 3 months ago from gatesville

      Darins own words.

      I ran down the stairs, ran right over to Devon, started cpr immediately.

      I looked over and saw Damon, he wasn't "I mean he was moving a little bit"

      He didn't have a pulse, I went upstairs, I saw Drake, he was crying, I ran down the stairs, I ran over to karens.

      Darin never admits that he ran out the front door and ran right into Waddell in the front yard. He has never admitted that.

      He has never explained or even talked about anything that happened after Waddell entered that house. He never wanted anyone to ever figure out that he walked into that house with Waddell, saw his son Damon trying to crawl, moving looking around the room and Darin once again ran past that boy and went right back to Devon.

      DEVON WAS DEAD FOR OVER 4 MINUTES. WADDELL DIDNT KNOW THAT, BUT DARIN DID. FOR OVER THREE MINUTES BEFORE WADDELL ENTERED THAT HOUSE DARIN WATCHED HIS SON DAMON DYING FROM A DISTANCE.

      Why hasn't anyone figured out what the hell that monster did?

      He has made up so many versions of the story, but he has never talked about or ever admitted that ran from that house to deliberately stall Waddell from entering that house.

      The 911 call confirms what I am saying. Mr. Gorsuch testimony confirms what I am saying.

      Karens testimony confirms Darin didn't go to her house until after Damon was removed from the house.

      Darins own words. I was there when they removed Damon from the house. He had no pulse. Darin is trying to put himself at two places at once.

      Darin did do that cpr in front of Waddell. He did do the first cpr 4 minutes before Waddell ever got to the house. Darin went past and denied Damon and Darlie any assistance for over 7 minutes before they were taken to the hospital.

      All witness testimony matches each others account except for Darins. He was not at karens when that shirtless intruder fled the home. Darin was that shirtless intruder. He is trying to confuse and hide the second cpr he did on Devon because he knows it proves he is guilty.

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      MForbes 3 months ago from gatesville

      I can not stress enough Poly what Darin has done to deceive everyone.

      I have gone through every statement, interview and court testimony Darin has ever done. He has never admitted to going back into that house and doing that second cpr on Devon. Darin claims to this day that he went to karens place when Waddell arrived, but he didn't he was heard on that 911 tape right there when Waddell entered the house

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      MForbes 3 months ago from gatesville

      Darin has never admitted to that second cpr in front of Waddell. Darin has continued to lie and say he ran over to Karens when Waddell got there and Waddell let the shirtless intruder get away. DARIN WAS THE SHIRTLESS INTRUDER DARLIE KEE KEEPS DEFENDING. MR. GORSUCH WATCHED DARIN GO BACK INTO THE HOUSE WITH WADDELL, HE IS HEARD ON THAT 911 TAPE RIGHT ALONG WITH WADDELL

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      MForbes 3 months ago from gatesville

      I don't understand why they keep arguing about the second cpr Darin did on Devon. He did the first one 30 seconds into the 911 call. Then he did a second one 4 minutes into the 911 call. How is that so hard to see and figure out. The fact that Darin left that very important detail out of his police statement proves he knew he screwed up when he went back to Devons dead body and used it as a prop to fool officer Waddell. Waddell had no idea that Darin had already performed cpr on Devon for over three minutes before he entered that house.

      WHY WONT ANYONE EXPLAIN THIS TO US?

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      MForbes 3 months ago from gatesville

      Polly, why isn't anyone asking why Darin has deliberately omitted the fact that he fled the house and ran into Waddell in the front yard.

      Darins police statement stalks about Darlie and Drake being the reason the boys cant play sports, he talks about her depression, he talks about her being upset with the boys and not being able to cope. He talks about that trip he planned on sending her to Cancun when he knew bloody well he didn't have the money to send her on that trip. He remembers all kinds of details that make Darlie look quilty, but he doesn't insert the part where he stops the cpr on Devon to up stairs before the police enter the home.

      Darin doesn't say one single word about what happened when Waddell entered that home. It wasn't just Waddell who testified to those exact details, it was a neighbor also.

      Darin knew that second cpr he did in front of Waddell would have set off red flags. He knew the police would be wondering why he didn't go to Damon instead of going to Devon who he knew had died 4 minutes earlier. That is the reason the police didn't figure out what Darin did.

      It isn't that difficult to see. That lead detective admitted he never went through that file.

      I believe that Greg Davis and the other prosecutors realized into the trial that Darin murdered those boys and attacked Darlie. Davis line of questioning proved that. I think they continued on with Darlie because they believed she was involved and deserved to be on death row.

      If she was involved then why would Darin wait those 4 minutes until she was out of sight before he appeared in that hallway? If she was involved he would have already been on the scene screaming his head off.

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      MForbes 3 months ago from gatesville

      Heather Blaze You really are pathetic. If you want to defend Darin then why don't you start answering some of questions instead of knocking down the theory.

      Polly has asked you several times now to explain how Darin would have gotten out of his room without the dog being heard on the 911 call. Darin didn't emerge out of his room when he claimed and the 911 call proves it.

      For your information there was and is DNA evidence against Darin. First of all he cant be excluded from the DNA on the sweatband of that black cap. Why don't you try explaining how the boys blood got on the waste band of his underwear? Darin admitted he never touched Damon. There was no cpr, no turning him over no touching. Darin never touched either victim so explain how their blood was on his underpants?

      Explain why Darin didn't tell the police about the second cpr he did in his police report. Darin goes into detail of how he did the cpr on Devon before any police arrived, but he deliberately leaves out the details of when he came back into the house and walked right past Damons living breathing body to go back to Devon who he knew was dead for over 4 minutes to perform a second cpr on him in front of officer Waddell. Waddell watched and described it detail. How do you explain that?

      Let me explain. Darin left that out of his police report because he knew that was the one thing that was going to prove he slaughtered his family. It would have proven he was faking the cpr on Devon in front of the officer.

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      Pollyannalana 3 months ago from US

      You have a right to your opinion Heather, same as the rest of us.

      Maybe you could explain to us how the dog was not on the scene until after the 911 call? Darin had the dog with him so we can't blame that on Darin. All this slicing up and murdering going on and not a sound from the dog? It does decide to show up after Darin's last trip upstairs though?

      Darin taking out a big life insurance on Darlie doesn't bother you either? But none on himself?

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      Heather Blaze 3 months ago from Jackson, MS, USA

      Wow. Still beating the Darin horse I see. I do wish supporters would realize that short of a confession from Doofus (Darin) or DNA vindication nothing is going to change here. There will not be a new trial as statutorily the time to introduce new evidence has passed. Hammering the same stuff out over and over again is not going to change that. Supporters time would be better spent working on a petition to get her sentence commuted to life. She would then not be eligible for parole unless she admitted her guilt and showed remorse for her crime(s).

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      MForbes 3 months ago from gatesville

      I know I harp about the same things over and over again, but I feel like the more a person knows about the conflicting testimony of witnesses and police and hospital staff, the more their eyes will be open to what the full depth of Darins deception really was.

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      MForbes 3 months ago from gatesville

      This is Darins statement he did on June 8th. I wanted to point out how many lies he told and his version was so much different than all the staff and witness testimony. That is why his story changed and evolved so much over time.

      This is Darins police statement he wrote on June 8th. I wanted to point out for a fact that the police never investigated Darin. They never compared this statement to the 911 call. Had they done that they would have arrested him immediately.

      Statement of Darin Routier

      Taken by Officer Chris Frosch at the Rowlett PD – 4.45 pm, June 8, 1996

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      We were watching TV in the Roman Room (Living Room SW Corner of House) watching [illegible] movie on HBO (Satellite). Baby Drake had fallen asleep about 10-10:30. I took him up to bed in parents room. Put blanket on him and turned out lights. I went down stairs to talk to Darlie.

      This is the first lie. Darin wrote an affidavit admitting that him and Darlie fought that night. Darlie had been on the sofa for sevral days. It had nothing to do with baby Drake waking her up. Darin coached Darlie that is obvious. The only reason Darlie would have lied about them fighting about Dana was if Darin coached into covering for him.

      We talked about the boys not being able to start base-ball yet because we were so busy with the baby right now.

      This is a police statement about the slaughter of his two children and the attack on his wife and he is blaming Darlie and baby Drake for the reason the boys couldnt play baseball. He didnt have the money for them to play. Darin admitted in court he wasnt even getting out of bed before 10 am and he wasnt leaving for work until after noon. He was obviously using cocaine because the police found it in the home. Darin didnt have the money to put his kids in sports. He didnt have the money to fix his broken down jag so Darlie had a car to drive her boys to sports. They fought about Darin taking her car and they fought about him cheating with Dana. So what does Darin do? He not only takes Darlies car, but he takes her sister too.

      We talked about the business, bills, and how Darlie was having a hard time with taking care of the baby’s (all) today.

      They didnt fight about Darlie complaining about the boys. They fought about Darin not getting out of bed until almost noon. They fought about him not helping with the boys or the house. That was hard to do when he wasnt getting out of bed until almost noon.

      Darlie said she wanted to sleep on the couch because she would sleep better because the baby would keep her awake.

      Nobody even bothered to pay attention to what Darin has done here. He blamed Darlie for blaming Drake for the reason she wasnt in their bedroom when he knew for a fact that is not the reason Darlie was on the sofa. Up to this point Darin has painted Darlie as the bitter hateful mother who was just fed up with her kids. He over heard what the police were saying. He knew they were looking at Darlie and he set her up days after the attack. He blamed Darlie for everything.

      The boys were asleep with pillows and blankets on the floor. Devon was asleep face up in front of TV and Damon was asleep between couch and coffee table by the couch mom was. So I went upstairs to get her a blanket and pillow and came back downstairs to cover her up. We talked a little more

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      about her going to Cancun with some friends across the street and I gave her a kiss goodnight.

      What Darin was doing to Darlie was deliberate and intentional. Darin lied about this so called trip to Cancun. He didnt have the money to even pay his mortgage or credit card bills, let alone talk about her going on any vacation to Cancun. Darin aslo told the police that this intruder could have been stalking Darlie when she coming home from the tanning salon. DARLIE DIDNT HAVE A TAN. SHE WASNT GOING TO A TANNING SALON. IT WAS ALL LIES TO POINT THE FINGER AT DARLIE. Darin knew he was behind setting up the sightings for that so called intruder and he just kept up the lies to the police.

      Told her to dream about me and went upstairs around 1:00am.I went and turned on TV in our room and watched for 10 to 15 min. and took my glasses off and turned TV off. I could not go to sleep for a while but finally I fell asleep.

      One huge way to spot a liar is when they keep adding in unnecesary details to their story. Darin continued this behavior throughout this statement and in every interview he has ever done.

      The attack happened with in an hour and half from when he went to bed. Darin admits here he couldnt sleep. That was an indication he was upset about something. So how is it possible for him to have fallen alseep in less than an hour to the point where he slept through an attack on his family for over 5 minutes.

      Uncontisly (sic) I heard a noise and then Darlie screaming loud.

      As time went Darins story began to change. Here he says he hears a sound and then Darlie screaming. The very first time Darlie screamed out would have been several minutes before Darin appeared. In his interviews he changed this part of the statement to him hearing a light sound of glass breaking. He never mentions the dog barking at any point not even when he went upstairs just before Waddell pulled up to the house.

      She was yelling Devon! Devon!! Oh my God Devon! I woke up quickly and grabbed my glasses on the night stand and ran downstairs as fast as I could.

      This is a very important statement Darin made. In Darlies statements she said Darin didnt have his glasses on but he had his pants on and no socks. Yet Darin says here that he puts on his glasses, but he says nothing about his pants because he already knows he is about to lie as to the reason he went back up those stairs 3 minutes and 20 seconds into the 911 call.

      Going into the Living Room (Roman) I ran over to Devon laying on the floor where he was when I saw him last and nealed (sic) down over him

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      to see if he was hurt and then looked at the coffee table to see it tipped over on him. When I looked again at his chest there were two holes in his chest with blood and muscle piecing (sic) out.

      When Darin wrote this statement he had no idea that the police already had evidence and knew for a fact that the table never fell on Devon. So this was the excuse he gave as to why he ran past his living son Damon to go over to Devon where he stalled for over 3 minutes before the police arrived.

      I slapped his face to get him to say or look at me. No response.

      This statement alone should have been a red flag to Darins true feelings towards his children. He slapped his sons face. Really? He got no response, yet he spent the next 3 minutes and 20 seconds watching Darlie and Damon bleed to death when he pretended to be giving Devon cpr for over three minutes. Darin has 7 years of cpr training. He knew Devon was gone and he knew Damon and Darlie were bleeding to death and he sat back and he watched for over three minutes waiting for them to bleed to death.

      I started CPR and when I blew into his mouth air came out of his chest. I blew 5 or 6 times and held my hand over the holes on his chest. Then when that didn’t work I blew into one of the holes in his chest.

      I have never heard a parent take such delight in talking about the gory details of their childs death. Darin was the center of attention and he took every chance he got to try and brag about how he desperately tried to help his dying son.

      What people dont know about this is Darin knew and watched while Darlie and Damon were bleeding to death for over three minutes. They also dont know that Darin not only did cpr here at this time, but 4 minutes later after officer Waddell arrived on the scene he ran right past Damon and Darlie to go over and take his sons dead body to put on a show in front of the officer to try and convince him he was doing everything in his power to try and help his family. Officer Waddell didnt know that Devon had been dead already for over 4 minutes, but Darin knew this. Darin knew that he had stopped cpr on his son 4 minutes earlier to go upstairs for what ever reason.

      I looked over at Darlie and sh

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      MForbes 3 months ago from gatesville

      Me too Poly. So long as Darlie kee and Darin have control of that evidence and what goes on with the appeals Darlie will never convince a judge to grant her a new trial.

      I have no faith in Cooper at all. I have tried to talk to him so many times I lost count. So many others have tried also and he is just not doing anything to help.

      He is allowing Darlie kee and Darin to keep crucial evidence away from the appeals. I go through that 911 call and his statements over and over again. There is no way he slept through everything that went on downstairs.

      Nobody thought it strange at all that Darin just happens to appear the very second Darlie is out of his sight to see if he came out of his room or that dining room.

      Devon is stabbed and according to Doctors there was nothing obstructing him from screaming out.

      Darlie states that she does remember her children crying out, but she doesnt know if it was a dream or not.

      Darin on the other hand is no where in sight. The dog would have been barking and yet Darin claims he heard nothing.

      Damon is attacked and he is left alive while Darlie allegidly goes down the back alley to plant Darins sock.

      Again Darlie states that she heard her children cry but didnt know if she was dreaming or awake. That should have been a huge red flag for Darlie to have had extensive tests done for drugs.

      But Darin claims he is still asleep upstairs never seeing or hearing anything.

      The Darlie herself is attacked. There is blood evidence to prove she was on the sofa at some point during or after the attack.

      According to Darlie she screams out and then sits right up after Damon touches her shoulder. Damons bloody finger print was left on the sofa.

      Yet Darin still continues to sleep past this third attack and the sound of Darlie screaming out. Why didnt this send red flags to the police.

      Darlie gets up from the sofa or in the kitchen according to the prosecution and she breaks the glass to stage the scene.

      Darlies story she says that the intruder breaks the glass as he enters the kitchen.

      Darin still is not on the scene he is not anywhere in sight at this point. That dog would have been barking like crazy yet Darin never ever mentions the dog barking.

      Darlie then goes through the house she takes Damon and gets him to lay down she goes over and sees Devon laying motionless with his eyes open and she is bleeding and screaming out.

      Darlie then goes to the kitchen and she gets the phone and she dials 911.

      Darin yet again is no where in sight. He is not on the scene and he isnt with Darlie or the boys.

      The very second Darlie is out of sight in the kitchen dialing 911 within 15 seconds Darin appears on the scene. That was the only time during that whole time that Darin would have been able to make an appearance in that hallway without Darlie ever seeing where he emerged from.

      There was way too much noise, to much activity to believe for one second that Darin was able to sleep through all of that. It would be impossible to believe for one second that Darlie dog was not barking frantically from the second Devon was attacked. Anyone who has had a Pom dog or knows anything about that breed know without any doubt at all that these dogs all have the same charactoristics and behaviors. They hear and bark at sounds that would be almost impossible to hear. They can hear their owners car long before it ever appears at the home. They can hear when a stranger or even a family member is about to approach the house. They bark, they bark at everything and everyone one even if they know that person. They keep barking right up until they see where that sound is coming from. I dont understand why more people who have this breed of dog dont come forward to prove and stress this fact.

      There is no possible way Darin could have heard that glass break over that dog barking. Why hasnt anyone realized that Darin was no where to be found the entire time the crime was being committed against his family. There is absolutely no way he could have slept through that.

      Why isnt anyone wondering how or why it was possible that the very second Darin appeared on the scene was when Darlie was out of sight to prove that he was in his room.

      Why isnt anyone wondering why we didnt hear Darin screaming down those stairs as he claimed to have done while Darlie was on the phone with 911.

      Why isnt anyone wondering why Darin didnt ask what happened?

      Throughout that entire 911 call Darin was only making claims about the intruder and what they took. He never asks what happened or why it could have happened. Why?

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      Pollyannalana 3 months ago from US

      It is so frustrating and I know especially for you who has done so much to try to get people to listen. It is so disheartening. I wish there was something...anything...we could do.

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      MForbes 3 months ago from gatesville

      What is so frustrating about this case is the fact that Greg Davis wouldn't have had a case against Darlie to even take to trial if Darin would have been implicated in the crime.

      Davis wouldn't have had the nightshirt, it would have proven spatter from the cpr.

      They wouldn't have been able to point the finger at Darlie for the staging of the crime. It was Darin who lied about the table falling on top of Devon, It was Darin who was with that cut screen last on June 5th. It was Darin who lied again and said that the medic tipped the table over. It was Darin who had been in that home alone unsupervised after Darlie was taken to the hospital, it was Darin who lied about fixing the fence. There wouldn't have been one thread of evidence that would have pointed to Darlie if the jury had seen that Darin just happen to have the last access of all of the evidence. They would have learned about him cheating, his theft and insurance fraud, the alleged affair with Dana, his cocaine use. They would have heard it all. The evidence wouldn't have pointed at Darlie.

      The sock then would have made sense to the jury. They could have seen that it was Darin who fled the house when she got up. They would have seen the black cap on the floor, the black piece of clothing right next to it.

      That sock would have played a key roll in this case. They would have looked and tested the stains on that sock differently.

      The big thing would have been them paying attention to Darins actions. They would have realized that he was pretending to be doing cpr on his son who he knew died 4 minutes earlier.

      They would have saw him try and obstruct help getting to Darlie and Damon. They would have realized that when Darin went over to karens help was already there for his family. He put on that show in front Karen as an excuse to go back to the home and get back into that house. They didn't allow Darin back in right then, but he knew of all the chaos at the house and eventually made his way back in.

      They would have asked themselves. Why would this father turn and go through the dining room to look over the evidence? Why wouldn't this father go over to his dead son who was laying in that living alone cold and dead. Darin never went near Devon once he re entered that house. He went through the dining room and then through the kitchen area to spy on the police to find out what they were saying. Who does that? What kind of a father ignores his son just to investigate the evidence? I have no doubt the jury would have seen Darin for the evil monster he really is if they had been shown the evidence against him.

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      MForbes 3 months ago from gatesville

      Your right Poly, that sock made no sense what so ever. There were many things about the prosecutions case that made no sence.

      The bottom line in this case is the jury had not other options to look at. That has been my whole point all along.

      That's to Darlies own mother and Darin the jury was left with only two choices just as Davis stated. It was either an intruder or Darlie. Doug Mulder never even made an attempt to prove that there was ever an intruder in the home.

      The jury isn't to blame for the verdict. They convicted Darlie on the evidence that Davis case and the defence that Doug Mulder brought them. There was no defence. That entire trial was a cover up to protect Darin. It wasn't a trial to defend Darlie. I saw that in every single page of transcript I read.

      There isn't a judge out there who is going to look at this case and give Darlie a second chance unless Darin is exposed. Darlie Kee and Darin have clung on to this case for 21 years for one reason and one reason alone. To protect Darin.

      The police allowed Darin to wash up while his family was dead and dying. The lead investigator didn't even go over the evidence. If they had only questioned Barbara Jovell they would have learned the truth about Darin, all of it including him and Barbara setting up that black car.

      According to Darin himself he admitted to Davis in court he never touched Damon at all so how was it possible for blood from Damon to have gotten on his sock and his underwear?

      All the police had to do was find that other sock, but they didn't even look. They only had to listen to that 911 call once to realize that Darin lied about being woken by Darlie screaming into the 911 call. Within 15 seconds of Darlie dialing that phone there is no way Darin appeared. Watch his interviews. Darin said that he came down those stairs screaming his head off running over to Devon. That is not heard on the 911 call at all. Very calmly Darin just happens to appear in that hallway and Darlie asks him to hurry. Darin wasn't screaming, he wasn't yelling, he wasn't saying a word for another 15 seconds. Darin is heard for the first time on that tape 30 seconds into the call. He was waiting in that dining room I am sure of that. The second Darlie was out of sight he appeared. If Darlie was involved in the murder of her boys why would Darin need to plan and calculate things the way he did. He argued with Darlie about this intruder and she finally got fed up and told him there was no intruder. This was a deliberate attack. That alone should have opened the eyes of everyone. They should have looked at Darin that second. I believe if they had searched for that black car they would have found it. That car drove by the crime scene right after the police arrived according to Karen and Jovell. They focused on Darlie and all the other evidence went right out the window.

      I still believe Darin lost that sock in the alley when he fled the house. I believe it had the boys blood on it because it had already started to trickle out of the pant leg before he fled the house. As far as having someone waiting outside, I believe that was possible. I believe Darin planned on getting rid of Darlies jewellery but he didn't have time when she got up and followed him through the kitchen.

      She would have been yelling at this person. She would have been asking who it was yet Darin never appeared anywhere in sight.

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      Pollyannalana 3 months ago from US

      You know that sock in the alley has always made me think someone else had a part in this somehow. If this person or persons weren't in the house then maybe Darin took something out to them such as maybe the clothing he had on when he murdered the boys and injured Darlie. There would have been a lot of blood and maybe he did not see the blood on his underwear. He probably took out 2 socks too but dropped one. I think it is a pretty good theory. Probably they are really not wanting Darin to be investigated to involve them. Could they be some of our hub visitors?

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      MForbes 3 months ago from gatesville

      You know what else bothers me Poly? I don't know about you, but I know for a fact that if Darin was asleep in his room and he was woken by the sound of glass breaking, or by the sound of Darlie screaming out in terror, I do not believe for one second Darin would have gotten up and taken the time to put his pants on. He was already dressed, he was already down stairs. There was a piece of black clothing laying beside that cap in the utility room that the police never tested. I believe Darin removed that cap and his t-shirt and he went to the dining room with only his jeans on. Darin has claimed or stated that he ever went to the utility room and removed any clothing before he went upstairs.

      That was a critical error with the investigation. They never looked for Darins other sock, they never tested that shirt that was laying on the floor next to the cap. It took the police 14 days to go back into that home and retrieve that cap and Darins DNA couldn't be excluded from the DNA found on the sweat band.

      Darlie kee is stilling controlling what is being tested and what isn't. To this day she still stands by Darin and any evidence that was found or tested before that implicated Darin she has kept from the courts and the public. That is not fair to Darlie. A jury has a right to all the evidence. The lawyers who were fired found the boys blood on the wasteband of Darins underwear. How was that even possible if he didn't stab those kids?

      I spoke to both Darlie kee and I spoke to Cooper. I asked them to test that sock for fibers of grass from the back yard and gravel from the alley. If that sock wasn't in Darins pant leg and he didn't accidently drag and drop that sock there then he wouldn't have anything to worry about. Darin knew that sock was never in that rag box. He even lied under oath saying he didn't wear socks with holes in them, but Greg Davis proved to Darin it was his sock and he wore that sock with holes in it.

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      MForbes 3 months ago from gatesville

      I do not understand this at all either Poly. It makes me sick and furious. How is it that Darlie Kee is still controlling that investigation and what is being tested?

      She and Darin are responsible for her conviction 21 years ago. I am not afraid to say that. For 21 years Darlie kee has begged the public for money and help, but she isn't willing to listen. She has had 21 years to prove the intruder theory and that never happened. She has protected Darin all these years. Its time some else stepped in and put a stop to Darlie kee.

      She is fully aware that Darin was using the rumors of a home robbery as a smoke screen, she now knows that he was behind the black car.

      She knows Darlies dog and she knows that the second any movement went on downstairs not matter which room her dog was in he would have been barking his head off. There is abosolutely no way Darlie could have left that house to go down the alley and plant the sock leaving Damon alive, yet Darin heard nothing that entire time.

      If you listen to that 911 call you can hear Darin appear in that hallway 15 seconds into that call. He was in that dining room and he had to wait to appear in the hallway so Darlie didn't know where he came from.

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      Pollyannalana 3 months ago from US

      Yes, that dog should have been heard on the 911 call immediately. (And it should have wakened Darin way before glass or anything else!)

      Darin has ran upstairs to let it out where he has had it penned up like in a bathroom.

      Hard to believe others cannot see through this creep.

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      MForbes 3 months ago from gatesville

      That was the problem Poly. They found blood on the wasteband of Darins underwear.

      If you go to the transcripts, Greg Davis confronts Darin and he asks him, or tells him. You didn't do anything for Damon, you never touched Damon. Darin admitted that he never did anything for Damon. That is why the other lawyers were building the case against Darin. There was also blood found on his jeans. Darin denied both living victims any help at all.

      This is what Darin claimed. He told Davis first that Damon had no pulse and that is why he didn't help him. Then he changed that excuse to saying that he didn't know Damon was hurt. Then he changed that again and said his cpr training taught him not to turn Damon over. He had so many excuses as to why he never helped Damon and they were all different.

      If you listen to the 911 call. It is proof that Darin never stopped at Damons body before he ran up those stairs. At 3 minutes and 20 seconds into the 911 call Darin is only heard saying one word. "What, seconds later the dog barks for the first time. He then flees the house and he runs into officer Waddell and they immediately turn and walk back into the house together. Within seconds Waddell is heard talking to Darlie.

      Darin didn't touch or help Darlie or Damon. The proof is in that 911 call. Darin said he didn't help Darlie because he said she didn't know she was hurt. That is an outright lie. Both Gorsuch and Waddell said Darin was out front screaming someone stabbed my wife and kids. The second Waddell entered that home he knew that Darlie was in desperate need of help, he tried to get help to her immediately.

      Darlie was right near Devon. The blood puddle by his body confirms that. There is no bloody way Darin can say he didn't know she was cut. She was spewing blood from both her neck and her arm. It took him over 4 minutes to show up in that hallway after the attack Poly. I spoke to Nabors. They never checked Darins story. He was in that dining room stalling waiting for Darlie and Damon to bleed out. But she didn't, she acted fast and desperate and she dialed 911, that is when Darin knew he had no choice but to show up on the scene. He appears in that hallway 15 seconds into the 911 call. He waited until Darlie was out of sight before he made an appearance.

      When I confronted Nabors about how it was possible for him to have heard the glass break if he was in his room with the dog barking he laughed at me and asked me where I got my false information

      I explained to Nabors in detail I told him in Darins interviews he said specifically that he was woken by the sound of glass breaking in his room. Nabors told me that Darin told the police he was woken by the sound of Darlie screaming into the phone with the 911 operator.

      I explained to Nabors. The would have been making noises long before that, I explained that Darlie screamed out many times before she even dialed 911. I asked him about the dog. Nabors told me that Darlies dog only barked at strangers. That is absolutely false. He barked at every single little sound and movement. He would have been screaming frantically the second that knife went into Devons body and he wouldn't have quit. Darin is lying Poly.

      I get so worked up and so frustrated with all the lies. All the police had to do was read his statement and then listen to the 911 call. They would have known without a shadow of a doubt that Darin slaughtered his family.

      If they would have investigated Darin they would have come across Barry Fife. That would have opened up the entire case and proven with out any doubt his guilt. They didn't. They focused on Darlie because they knew they screwed up by letting Darin wash up and go back into that home alone to look over the evidence. They figured they lost the case with him and they set their minds on her. Davis knew during that trial Darin was guilty. He made that perfectly clear, but he wasn't willing to risk losing Darlie trying to go after a case with Darin knowing how badly the police screwed up on that case.

      To this day Nabors is still there spewing his lies and telling his phony stories of how he knows that case better than anyone. He does even know that Darin said he was woken by the sound of glass breaking. That is the first clue to proving Darin was right there attacking those boys.

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      Pollyannalana 3 months ago from US

      You put my thinking cap on MForbes. If Darin did not go near Damon then there should be none of his blood on Darin's clothes. Did they even check his clothing?