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Darlie Routier: Twenty Years on Death Row

Updated on January 15, 2017
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Polly is far from politically correct when it comes to justice. Truth means more to her than making fans; saying what they want to hear!

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Met as Young Teens

Darin was 17 and Darlie only 15 when they met.

Darlie Routier is an American woman from Texas who was convicted of murdering her 5-yr-old son, Damon. Her other son was also killed, though she was only tried for Damon's murder.

Some say there is more to this trial than the official investigation showed.

These three children were Darlie's only claim to financial gain as anyone knows. Worth much more to her alive than dead if that was her purpose.
These three children were Darlie's only claim to financial gain as anyone knows. Worth much more to her alive than dead if that was her purpose. | Source

Background

How long would it take to make all these wounds?

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Were these wounds self inflicted?
Were these wounds self inflicted? | Source

Darlie has no history of mental illness. She was not abusive to her sons. She was faithful to her husband and there is no fact from anyone saying differently on any of this.

Darlie moved to Lubbock as a teenager with her mom and stepdad. She met Darin in a Western Sizzlin' where her mother worked and so did Darin as a cook. He was 17 and she was 15 and they married four years later.

After moving to the Dallas area he began his own small company that tested electronic components and when he became a success in the early nineties, they bought a nice house and spent thousands getting it just how they wanted. Darin bought a thirty-foot cabin cruiser and a 1982 Jaguar. They went a little wild with their money and Darlie bought new boobs and flashy jewelry.

The neighbors never saw them as wild though. She had kids in and baked cookies for them. Those kids stood up for her against the accusation that she killed her sons. Darin and Darlie helped out a cancer patient neighbor with a mortgage payment and seemed to have a heart. Whose idea was that, I don’t know, but Darlie was baking the cookies.

All of a sudden their business went downhill and they got behind on their bills it is claimed. They owed $10,000 in back taxes and $12,000 on credit cards. Darin and an incomplete diary entry show Darlie was considering suicide a month before the murders. It was a fleeting thought apparently. My doctor once asked me if I had ever thought about suicide and my answer was, "Hasn't everyone?" He laughed, for it is true. Maybe to different extents but if you know the word you have thought about it. If you have something you just think you can't face you may think about it, so I consider that pretty normal and nothing to even consider in anyone's sanity.

She had gone through the birth of a third baby and was trying to get off a little extra weight and at that age I think many of us go through a little something anyway. Like did we make the right decisions in life, have we chosen the right path? Thirty is coming up and to twenties that looks old! It is nothing serious but a little something as I say, and combined with all else going on with her she probably was suffering not abnormally from slight depression. That does not a murderer make.

Looking happy as always.
Looking happy as always. | Source

What the Jury Didn't Know

Darlie's Injuries

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Never brought to the attention of the jury were other things of alarm and great importance, including the pictures of Darlie's cuts and bruises on her arms taken when she was hospitalized the night of the murders. One juror told reporters he would never have voted to convict if he had seen the photographs. I would be sure others would have agreed. That is when I knew without a doubt! These are defense wounds, clearly. Yes, there were photos of the wound but this juror and the author who at first had Darlie guilty but changed her mind later said these really bad bruised photos were never seen by them. They did see the silly string plenty though which was an illegal entry into this trial!



"When they arrested Darlie, we just pretty much lost it," says Darin, and says they have never been able to grieve for their children but it is Darlie's husband and mother who have steadfastly continued the fight. They have appeared 10 times on nationally televised talk shows, printed up bumper stickers and have a toll-free phone number ( (888) 883-FAIR) appealing for donations and information that could help "find the real person who attacked Darlie and murdered her children." They have gathered support. Right now, they say, freeing Darlie is the only fight that counts.

Drake Routier looks just like his mother. The blue eyes, wide face, and his mother's mouth. The court took Darin's custody of the child, who was 7 months old at the time of the murders, simply because he defended Darlie! This is Texas law? His parents were allowed to raise the baby and he was given rights to visit him but still! Does this horror never end? If Darin is guilty of nothing how could they take custody of his child from him?

Darin and Darlie moved into her mother's home after the murders and lost the $200,000 house they built, also their 35-foot cabin cruiser, '86 Jaguar, plus some. Legal fees and bad publicity about the case ruined him financially. His electronics business, bringing a salary of $500,000 in 1995, lost 14 of its 17 clients and all its employees.

Are Her Injuries Authentic?

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She was a genius if she planned this one. So real looking.  Did she do this?Or this?Why would she put a planned bruise here, I wonder?Seems like a slight turn would be a clearer picture, doesn't it?
She was a genius if she planned this one. So real looking.
She was a genius if she planned this one. So real looking.
Did she do this?
Did she do this?
Or this?
Or this?
Why would she put a planned bruise here, I wonder?
Why would she put a planned bruise here, I wonder?
Seems like a slight turn would be a clearer picture, doesn't it?
Seems like a slight turn would be a clearer picture, doesn't it?
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One-sided Testimonies

There were many bad testimonies from people making Darlie look bad. There were no testimonies of the people who saw her much differently. Darin and Ms. Kee claim Darlie's trial mocked the judicial system. Evidence that would have cleared her was never presented, witnesses who could have contradicted the prosecution's assertions never testified, forensics testing was botched, and depositions were distorted.

Unidentified Fingerprints

Forensic fingerprint tests done after Darlie's trial still show that she is innocent of the crime for which she was convicted. A bloody fingerprint taken from her living room coffee table did not belong to anyone living in her home, and two more fingerprints in the utility room and door leading to the garage in which Darlie thinks the murderer escaped the Darin's home after attacking her and her two sons. No matter, repeated requests, the Court will not grant the evidential hearing necessary to investigate and evaluate this evidence.

Taken from the utility room door is a patent bloody fingerprint—this is the first one. Forensic fingerprint analyst Glenn Langenburg proved positively Darlin is excluded as the owner of this print. Darlin's exclusion as the source of this print indicates that an unknown third party not only deposited this print, but deposited it in blood, on the night of the murders.

The second print taken from this door is a latent print located below the patent bloody fingerprint. Latent print consultant Robert Lohnes checked this print in 2003 and said that it matched the second finger joint of Darin Routier on the middle finger of the left hand.

In addition, Langenburg currently is conducting a second examination of the bloody fingerprint on the utility room door to determine whether Darin Routier can also be excluded as the source of this print. If, as Darlie expects, Darin Routier is not the source of this print, Darlie definitively will have demonstrated that an unknown third party deposited two separate fingerprints, one of them in the victims' blood, while fleeing the scene on the night of the murders.

Other Unexamined Elements

Who Had the Most to Gain?

Insurance Scam Attempt

Darin Routier has admitted to trying to arrange an insurance scam, which included someone breaking into their home. He has admitted that he had begun the initial steps to arrange a break-in, but that it was to be done when no one was at home. No jury has heard this admission.

Surely any law would be all over this, how many ways could this be the answer? Maybe not even the way Darin meant it to be but caused with unlawful schemes. I could understand them suspecting him, I really could, and why don't they? I don't believe Darlie would even suspect him, but if I were Darlie I would have to give that some serious thought, but I think Darlie is as I say so much like my own daughter. Either a lack of intelligence or too much into her self, which does not equal a murderer. I keep waiting for my daughter to change and act more mature, but I suspect like Darlie it is just who she is. No changing.

"Birthday Party" Footage

The "birthday party" film that was viewed by the jury that made me think that is a killer, showed Darlie dancing on the graves of her son along with other family members, but did not show the hours previous to that scene when Darlie sobbed and grieved over the graves with her husband Darin. Why was the entire footage not shown?

Black Car on Night of Crime

Neighbors saw a black car sitting in front of the Routier home a week before the murders took place. Other neighbors saw that same car leaving the area on the night of the murders.

Missing or Damaged Evidence?

There was talk the police did not protect the evidence as they gathered it, possibly damaging its origins. Is this true? The investigators told the press that the screen was cut from the inside though it was later proven in court to be cut from the outside. Hm? Police investigated this? The investigators took the fifth amendment—what were they afraid to say? You know without doubt they are hiding something. How are law witnesses allowed to take the fifth? On their deathbed will just one of them spill the truth?

Where Was Darin?

When the paramedics arrived at the scene they said that Darin Routier was outside, but Darin was inside trying to save his children, so who was the man they thought was him? It was reported the testimony of the nurses was coached and rehearsed in mock trials by the prosecution prior to their testimony.

Cut in Darlie's Neck

Saying the cut in her neck was 2mm of the carotid sheath but external to the carotid artery was what Darlie's operating surgeons reported, and that the necklace she had on blocked the cut from going deeper, showing the seriousness and unlikelihood that Darlie did or even could have done this herself.

Found Hair

There was a pubic hair found in the living room. Whose? Did debris on the knife in the kitchen get debris on the knife from police in the kitchen investigating the murder, or did it come from the screen door?

Darin's Jeans

Darin's jeans had blood on them. Why did no one look into this? (Dear God! He is walking around free, he looks the more guilty of the two!) Sometimes I think children could run this world better. Does nothing enter the court's mind about this? Is it too late because they would be hanging themselves? Are they just that lazy? So they just pick someone so it's over?

Mistakes in the Court Report

The court reporter made mistakes in the manuscript so was there an improper read-back of testimony? Why is prosecution not forced to turn over evidence they have that should be available to both sides? Gee, anyone who watches TV knows this rule.

Reluctance for DNA Testing

WHY? DNA testing could put many of these questions to rest. Why is there such a reluctance to do the testing? Many, such as people interested in writing Darlie's story have come to her side and since then have run into convenience problems seeing her or were simply blocked!

Reasonable Doubt

An Incomplete Picture

Video shows....

Darlie changed hands to slit her throat?

Nurses had two different testimonies.

Claims certain photos were not seen in trial.

Bloody fingerprint not identified.

Missing transcripts from court papers...words changed to change meanings.

It is impossible to believe how much trouble the legal system will go to to make things turn out the way they want. Just knowing the jury did not see this picture is enough to get the woman a new trial, but no. Not only did she lose two children murdered but she cannot get back her youngest son. So one day she may get out and a big settlement. What about the ones who do things like this? Shouldn't they be locked up? I think so!

My View of Her Changed As I Got More Evidence

When I saw Darlie dancing around her children's graves, spraying silly string, laughing and acting so happy I thought, "of course she killed those babies," and I was filled with hate, seeing her acting this way and those babies of hers, murdered and in the ground beneath her.

I can't say that I accept this behavior even now but people are different and I know they are. It still doesn't make them guilty of murder. I really felt so guilty the more I listened, read, and learned. I am not the only one with a change of mind.

With Darlie, what I did not see was the same as what others did not see: Proof. How long will our rotten dirty judicial system keep getting by with having their say, right or wrong and hiding information to make things go the way they want? Why do they continually do this? What I and the jury did not see was Darlie's horrible cut and bruised black arms and hands: defensive wounds, without a doubt.

I have read many true crime books and this is almost a common thing, it has happened so often. The law wants to solve a crime so quickly some idiot decides how it happened and then makes sure it looks that way.

The Elements of Doubt

There are many things missing in this case.

  • Darin's admission of an insurance scam attempt.
  • The screen that was mis-reported as being cut from the inside.
  • Possible improper read-back of testimony to the jury by the court reporter
  • Apparent conflict of interested with the attorney that represented Darlie Routier at trial had an apparent conflict of interest, because he was said to have had a prearrangement with Darin Routier and other family members not to pursue any defense that could implicate Darin. This attorney supposedly stopped key experts for the defense from finishing forensic examinations.
  • The pictures of Darlie's cuts and bruises on her arms which were taken when she was hospitalized the night of the murders.
  • The prosecution's refusal to provide access to any evidence in their custody in the case.
  • No DNA testing.
  • Some writers who have interviewed Darlie Routier have decided to help her fight to get a new trial. Since reporting their opinions on her situation, they report that their ability to visit her has been blocked or made so inconvenient that little can be accomplished.
  • During the trial investigators invoked their Fifth Amendment rights against self-incrimination during cross examination, preventing the defense from rebutting their testimony. Why? This alone would be reason for disbelief and a new trial!

Was This Just a Witch Hunt?

My take on the case

Wake up. Watch your back. It could be prison, pain, mental, or physical cruelty that Darlie will get them for. The list goes on and they know it, and besides that, people like me who will not let anyone forget how accountable they are and how often.

Look at Jon Benet Ramsey, her justice, her family, her poor mother. All those years with their eyes never looking anywhere but at mourning parents. Now does anyone think of the father, the brother? Does anyone think their lives will ever be normal? How different is this case?

Someone runs in and makes a Great Basil Detective decision and that's it! Look no farther. The whole force there should have been fired. They ruined three peoples' lives and found no justice for Jon Benet. Big surprise.

We know there is no justice and we know it a little more every day. What is wrong with these people put there to protect and help us? Do they need testing? Who are they? Did they come from prisons as someone in California says theirs do? Maybe we should be investigating them. It certainly looks that way.

There are so many and I think I would believe here is a case Darlie has against them for sure. They are covering their butts, with no compassion or interest in finding the true criminal.

They just don't want it found out they were wrong and if they do, they may have to pay big, which someone above them is warning them about. But for them, they should have to pay or go to jail, just like what they have put this woman through. If she is innocent, they are guilty, but what ever happens to them, they have committed a crime and are still committing it right now as far as I am concerned.

I am sure the law would force them to turn over evidence . . . or will it go so long it all just gets lost? We have heard that one too many times, huh? Hopefully their hands will be forced eventually and that is when we should demand true justice. They have no evidence against this woman. She at least deserves a new trial with all the evidence. If she were a rapist she would get it!

Look at that woman's wounds. The jury never did. I am not sure whoever her lawyer was shouldn't be charged. Look at all he failed to bring up or show that jury. Isn't that alone enough for a new trial?

We seem to have either many ignorant or crooked people in this case, and even if Darlie gets her new trial and is proven innocent and compensated (and how is that possible?), these people will never have to pay.

They may give them a vacation with pay until everyone forgets. There is so much of the judicial system in all of America that needs a serious investigation of why they are the way they are and in my opinion, much of America needs a clean sweep.

Some Things This Video Covers

No witness

No motive

Bloody fingerprint reality

Two who say dark wounds not shown

Darin failed polygraph saying he did not stab Darlie

Darlie unaware few minutes that she is even wounded

A must watch!

Darin Describes How Cops Ruin Crime Scene

Compare emotions of each parent as they speak of their sons.

Problems with this case!

Older video but full of reasonable doubt!

Facts for doubt

Doctors and Nurses Have Two Stories

Something to watch a little newer until I can get back with more but claiming here there are more than 30,000 mistakes in trial transcripts and just how close Darlie was to death. Plus some.

https://youtu.be/fw6h5gOPygY

Darin says coffee table is bent over. No evidence of this so why does he say this? https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsbgNmD63WMO1oAbuo0MbLw


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      Pollyannalana 9 days ago from US

      Thank you so much Heather! That is such great news!!!

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      Pollyannalana 9 days ago from US

      debry - I am more convinced than ever hearing Kezzy's evidence against Darin. He simply refused to help his son that was alive but kept doing CPR on a dead son he knew there was no hope for and well she has some very good points and besides I will never believe Darlie did that to herself and when you see who the big insurance policy is on why would you think otherwise? Sherlock would have an easy case here I am sure. For God only knows why that crooked police department got Darlie hung. Maybe because they messed up the scene so bad they were not thinking straight and by the time they figured out who it really was (which I am sure they did taking his son away) it was too late for Darlie but don't feel you have to waste your time here.

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      debry 13 days ago

      Sorry Pollyanna...I reviewed your list of doubts launched at Darlie Routiers' innocence and compared them to trial evidence. I believe Darlie is guilty and tba t she was in collusion with her husband to have the home robbed for the sake of their fledgling finances. Obviously, she can't admit this because she would still come out guilty. She will never speak out about that. He likely created her wounds just in their sick plot and two beautiful children died painfully and savagely as a result. The state knows this....I worked in criminal defense law for 30 years and the jury made no mistake. The rightful killer is where she belongs. God bless the memory of those boys and thank God Drake was not raised by either Darlie or her husband. He dodged a bullet in that one. I'd Find another story to attempt your activism for and good luck!

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      Heather Blaze 2 weeks ago from Jackson, MS, USA

      I was just wondering if anyone knows if David Camm is still investigating Darlie's case to try and help her? Also, does anyone know if or why the Innocence Project has not tried to help her?

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      kezzy1996 2 weeks ago

      Polly Thank you so much for your help

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      Pollyannalana 2 weeks ago from US

      I emailed you, we can get to work as soon as you are ready!

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      Pollyannalana 2 weeks ago from US

      I couldn't change your comment if I wanted to Kezzy, I can only approve or delete it and I don't over worry about a typo or two, I sure make them.

      Honestly, I would like to see you have your own article on this and I can set it up for you and then you can change or redo anything you want as many times as you want. I know you would have so much fun and remember you can keep going in and working on it as long as you want in as many ways as you want and just publish it when you are ready. You can even unpublish it if something is not how you want but never delete it for in 24 hours all that work will be gone and you don't want that.

      If I am going to help you it needs to be soon for I have some things coming up in a week or so that might keep me busy awhile. I didn't even enter this in Soapboxie, HP did it for me so who knows how far yours could go but you can enter it in Soapboxie or one of the others right away as far as I know. You would want to make sure it is in good shape first.

      Maybe someone is listening to you...I sure hope so!

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      kezzy1996 2 weeks ago

      I know some of my posts have annoyed people, but frankly I don't care. The key to this case is trying to show the public what the police and courts didn't expose. Darin was obviously protected by the courts and by Darlies own lawyer.

      The prosecution gave Darlies lawyer an opportunity to speak up about there being more than just two suspects, her and the intruder. Everyone knew that Darin had never been investigated. The proof is in those transcripts. They never brought up about Darin planning that robbery on his home. That would have been discovered long before the trail ever started. That alone would have opened the eyes to the juror.

      They talked about that black car that Darin kept bringing up. Darin knew that his employee knew exactly who was driving that black car. Darin has his employee go over to his home right after the crime to make sure that she mentioned this black car. They made sure that Karen was also witness to this black car. This is absolute proof that Darins employee was a part of this conspiracy. She admitted that she knew about the planned robbery Darin talked about, she never mentioned that to the police at all. She also knew that the black car was someone she knew. She directed that person to Darlies home. She claims it was all innocent that the person was just looking for landscaping ideas so she told them to go by the Routier neighborhood. So I guess that tour she sent them on included that person going down the back alley of Darlies home and looking into her garage. Making sure that her mother and Darlie both saw that car. Basia claims that she never came forward to police about the black car because she was scared. Are you kidding me. If she wasn't involved in that crime what could she have been scared about? She may not have killed those boys with her own hands, but she with held evidence that would have shown the police just how evil Darin really was. They would have learned about him cheating on Darlie giving her a std that has no cure. They would have learned about the other insurance scam he got paid out on. They would have learned a lot of things including that fake cpr he did on his son. Darin was never cleared and anyone who ever comes forward to say he was are lying. Darin had all the motives and all the opportunity to do that crime. The police even allowed that monster to go back into that house and wonder around on his own. He had all the opportunity in the world to screw around with that crime scene. He set Darlie up starting with that police report. If they had read that report and compared it to the 911 call they would have arrested him first of all for using Devons dead body to deceive Darlie and that young officer.

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      kezzy1996 2 weeks ago

      Polly Sorry I didn't proof read the letter I sent, there is mistakes in there if you would like to make changes to save me embarrassment. Thanks. This is only a fraction of the evidence and proof I uncovered about this conspiracy against Darlie.

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      kezzy1996 2 weeks ago

      Tammy I hope you don't mind me commenting on your post. There is a lot everyone can do. After contacting the supreme court in Dallas I was told that I could contact the prosecutors office in Dallas. I have done that. I have submitted all my proof and evidence against Darin. I was told if I had enough proof he killed those boys then it is their legal obligation to look into my information. I have taken apart every interview and statement he has ever made. I tried to find something, anything in there that would prove he didn't kill those boys. I found nothing to prove Darins innocence. I only found more evidence to prove guilt.

      Focusing only on the cpr attempt made on Devon by Darin.

      Statement of Darin Routier

      Taken by Officer Chris Frosch at the Rowlett PD – 4.45 pm, June 8, 1996

      I WANTED TO GO THROUGH ALL OF DARINS STATEMENTS STARTING WITH THE FIRST POLICE STATEMENT HE DID TWO DAYS AFTER DEVON AND DAMON WERE MURDERED.

      THE VERY FIRST THING THAT BOTHERED ME ABOUT DARIN WAS THE FACT THAT HE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH DARLIE OR DAMON BEFORE OR AFTER THE POLICE ARRIVED. DARIN WAS NOT INTERESTED IN EITHER OF THEM UNTIL HER REALIZED SHE MIGHT SURVIVE THE ATTACK.

      THERE WAS NO ATTEMPT BY POLICE TO SEPERATE DARIN FROM DARLIE. THAT WAS A HUGE MISTAKE ON BEHALF OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. DARIN SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE PRIME SUSPECT. HE WAS THE ONLY OTHER ADULT IN THAT HOME WHO COULD HAVE COMMITTED THE CRIME. HE WAS THE ONLY OTHER ADULT IN THAT HOME THAT WAS NOT ATTACKED. DARIN HAD ALL THE MOTIVES TO WANT HIS FAMILY DEAD AND GONE. THE PROSECUTION THEORY OF WHY DARLIE WOULD HAVE AND COULD HAVE KILLED HER FAMILY MAKES NO SENSE WHAT SO EVER.

      DARIN CLAIMED HE DIDNT HELP DARLIE BECAUSE HE DIDNT KNOW SHE WAS CUT. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE. FIRST OF ALL, DARLIE SAID IN MANY OF HER STATEMENTS SHE DID TELL DARIN RIGHT AWAY SHE HAD BEEN CUT, SHE EVEN SHOWED HIM THE INJURY BEFORE POLICE ARRIVED.

      I HAVE PUT ALL DARINS INCONSISTANCIES IN BOLD WRITING AND I AM GOING TO EXPLAIN WHY THEY ARE SUSPICOUS AND INCRIMINATING.

      We were watching TV in the Roman Room (Living Room SW Corner of House) watching [illegible] movie on HBO (Satellite). Baby Drake had fallen asleep about 10-10:30. I took him up to bed in parents room. Put blanket on him and turned out lights. I went down stairs to talk to Darlie. We talked about the boys not being able to start base-ball yet because we were so busy with the baby right now. We talked about the business, bills, and how Darlie was having a hard time with taking care of the baby’s (all) today. Darlie said she wanted to sleep on the couch because she would sleep better because the baby would keep her awake.

      THIS STATEMENT RIGHT HERE IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME. THIS PROVES THAT DARIN HAD SPOKEN TO DARLIE AND THEY HAD DISCUSSED WHAT WAS GOING TO BE SAID IN EACH OTHERS POLICE STATEMENT. DARIN SHOULD HAVE BEEN KEPT AWAY FROM DARLIE THE SECOND OFFICER WADDELL ARRIVED ON THE SCENE. DARIN KNEW WADDELL WAS YOUNG AND INEXPERIENCED AND TOOK FULL ADVANTAGE OF THAT AND I WILL BE GOING THROUGH ALL THE STEPS TO PROVE THIS.

      DARLIE DIDNT SLEEP ON THE SOFA BECAUSE OF DRAKE KEEPING HER UP. DAIRN AND DARLIE BOTH LIED ABOUT THIS. I BELIEVE DARIN HAD DARLIE SAY THIS SO THE SUSPICION WOULD BE DIRECTED AWAY FROM DARIN. DARLIE HAD BEEN SLEEPING ON THE SOFA FOR SEVERAL DAYS. THEY HAD BEEN ARGUING THAT NIGHT. DARLIE HAD TOLD DARIN SHE WANTED TO SEPERATE. THERE IS DOCUMENTATION TO BACK THIS UP.

      ONE OF THE KEY PIECES OF EVIDENCE THE PROSECUTION USED AGAINST DARLIE WAS THAT STATEMENT REGARDING DAMON. THEY CONVINCED THE JURY THAT DARLIE WAS A LIGHT SLEEPER, YET SHE SLEPT THROUGH THE SOUND OF THE CRIB MOVING. THERE IS NO WAY DARLIES LAWYER COULDNT HAVE FORSEEN THE DAMAGE THIS ONE LIE WAS DOING TO DARLIES DEFENCE, YET HE CONTINUED ON WITH THAT STATEMENT KNOWING IT WAS PROTECTING DARIN.

      The boys were asleep with pillows and blankets on the floor. Devon was asleep face up in front of TV

      DARIN LEFT OUT MANY DETAILS OF JUNE 6TH, BUT HE MANAGED TO PUT IN HIS STATEMENT EXACTLY HOW AND WHERE DEVON WAS LAYING WHEN HE WENT TO BED THAT NIGHT. I HAVE NEVER PUT MY CHILDREN TO BED AND GONE BACK TO CHECK ON THEM TO FIND THEM IN THE SAME SPOT. THIS PROVED TO ME THAT DARIN WAS TRYING TO COVER UP AND EXPLAIN HOW HE KNEW WHERE DEVON WAS LAYING WHEN HE CAME DOWN STAIRS.

      and Damon was asleep between couch and coffee table by the couch mom was.

      THIS SINGLE STATEMENT RIGHT HERE IS VERY IMPORTANT. DARIN SAYS WHEN HE FIRST CAME DOWN STAIRS DAMON WAS LAYING ON THE FLOOR BETWEEN THE SOFA AND WALL. DAMON DIDNT LAY DOWN THERE AT FIRST, HE WAS BESIDE THE OTHER SOFA WHERE DARLIE HAD BEEN LAYING BEFORE THE ATTACK. THIS STATEMENT ALONE PROVES THAT DARIN DIDNT APPEAR IN THAT HALLWAY UNTIL AFTER DARLIE HAD GONE TO THE KITCHEN TO CALL 911. DARINS ONLY ALIBI TO SAY HE WAS IN HIS ROOM IS COMPLETELY DESTROYED AND DISPROVED BY THE EVIDENCE ON THE 911 CALL, AS WELL AS THE BLOOD PATTERN EVIDENCE. DARLIE DEFENDED DARIN, BUT SHE HAD NEVER SAID FLAT OUT THAT SHE SAW DARIN COME OUT OF HIS ROOM AND RUN DOWN THOSE STAIRS.

      So I went upstairs to get her a blanket and pillow and came back downstairs to cover her up. We talked a little more about her going to Cancun with some friends across the street and I gave her a kiss goodnight. Told her to dream about me and went upstairs around 1:00am.

      THERE HAS BEEN MANY INCONSISTANCIES IN DARINS STORIES. HE DID AN INTERVIEW ON TV. IN THAT INTERVIEW HE TOLD THE REPORTERS THAT HE WENT TO BED AROUND 11 PM.

      I went and turned on TV in our room and watched for 10 to 15 min. and took my glasses off and turned TV off. I could not go to sleep for a while but finally I fell asleep.

      AGAIN IN DARINS INTERVIEWS HE HAS STATED THAT HE COULDNT GO TO SLEEP WHEN HE FIRST WENT UPSTAIRS, THEN IN OTHER INTERVIEWS AND STATEMENTS HE CLAIMS THAT HE WENT RIGHT TO SLEEP. REGARDLESS OF WHAT HE SAID THERE WAS A VERY SMALL WINDOW BETWEEN THE TIME HE WENT TO BED AND THE TIME OF THE ATTACK ON DARLIE AND THE BOYS.

      Uncontisly (sic) I heard a noise and then Darlie screaming loud.

      THIS STATEMENT BOTHERED ME TO GREAT LENGTHS. DARIN SAYS HERE HE HEARD A NOISE AND WAS WOKEN, BUT AS THE INTERVIEWS AND STATEMENTS CAME OUT THAT KEPT CHANGING. THOSE CHANGES DARIN WAS MAKING TO HIS STORIES WERENT TO HELP DARLIES CASE, THEY WERE MADE TO TRY AND CONVINCE THE PUBLIC AND AUTHORITIES THAT HE WAS NOT THERE DURING THE ATTACK ON HIS FAMILY.

      DARIIN WAS NOT IN HIS ROOM WHEN THAT GLASS BROKE AND THIS IS WHY I KNOW THAT FOR A FACT.

      FIRST OF ALL DARLIE HAD A LITTLE POM DOG THAT SLEPT UPSTAIRS THAT NIGHT. WE KNOW FOR A FACT THAT DOG WAS UPSTAIRS THAT NIGHT BECAUSE WHEN THE POLICE ARRIVED THAT DOG WAS UPSTAIRS BARKING. THE POLICE EVENTUALLY CALLED A NEIGHBOR OVER TO REMOVE THE DOG SO THEY COULD DO THEIR SEARCH.

      GETTING BACK TO THE GLASS BREAKING AND WAKING DARIN UP. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT THAT DARIN WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HEAR THAT GLASS BREAK IF HE WAS IN HIS ROOM ASLEEP AS HE CLAIMED. THIS IS A 3600 SQUARE FOOT HOME. HE WAS ON A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FLOOR AT THE OTHER END OF THE HOUSE. NOT ONLY THAT DARLIES DOG WOULD HAVE BEEN BARKING FRANTICALLY FROM THE SECOND DARLIE MADE ANY MOVEMENT AT ALL. I KNOW THIS ABOUT THAT BREED OF DOG. I HAVE HAD A POM FOR OVER 15 YEARS. TO THIS DAY EVEN IF THERE IS THE SLIGHTEST SOUND DOWNSTAIRS FAMILY MEMBER OR NOT MY DOG BARKS UNTIL SHE SEES OR KNOWS WHO IT WAS THAT MADE THE STRANGE NOISE. NO WAY DARIN HEARD THAT GLASS BREAK OVER THE SOUND OF DARLIES DOG BARKING.

      She was yelling Devon! Devon!! Oh my God Devon!

      THIS IS VERY INTERESTING TO ME. DARIN HAS CHANGED THIS PART OF HIS STATEMENT MANY TIMES. HE USES THESE WORDS WHEN HE IS DOING HIS INTERVIEWS WITH REPORTERS. FIRST OF ALL HE SAYS DARLIE WAS YELLING DARIN DARIN DARIN. THEN HE CHANGES THAT TO SAYING SHE IS YELLING OUT DEVON DEVON DEVON.

      I THEN WENT BACK TO MY SUSPICIONS ABOUT DARINS STATEMENT REGARDING WHERE AND HOW DEVON WAS LAYING BEFORE HE WENT TO BED. DARIN CHANGED THIS STATEMENT ABOUT WHO'S NAME DARLIE WAS YELLING TO TRY AND COVER UP AND EXPLAIN WHY HE RAN OVER TO DEVON BEFORE HE EVEN KNEW OR WAS TOLD WHAT HAD HAPPENED. TO FURTHER PROVE THIS I HAVE TO GO BACK TO

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      Pollyannalana 2 weeks ago from US

      Heather, I truly did comment back to you but I will pay more attention now I am aware.

      I don't even intend to try to change your mind on Darlie but maybe you unlike others who are so sure Darlie did this to her little boys and herself (presuming she could do all that in the timeline allowed by the experts) would tell me that if she really did it she should not have been tried differently. Especially as so many point out trying to make her guilty the fact she was having mental problems stemming from more than one thing and it clearly was not proven she was a violent person or mean to her children. Clearly too the cops got a lot of people to come up with opposite tales than what they started with but do you really think Darlie of sound mind did all this to herself and her children and for what sane reason?

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      Pollyannalana 2 weeks ago from US

      Tammy I do not have the answers to your questions but hopefully someone out there does and I look forward to answers to this as much as anyone.

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      Heather Blaze 2 weeks ago from Jackson, MS, USA

      It's ok Polly. I am sure you are busy. Time is running out for Darlie and I really do seek info on her innocence if any real info exists. It is all well and good for the theorists to type to beat the band but real information is needed and I just never seem to find any that beats what we already know. If there had been an intruder that night for example (no matter how unlikely) it was to be hoped that time would reveal the trail left so many years ago. Also, I really can think of no other explanation why her family would take the stance with Darin they have other than that they know Darlie is guilty. So what we have is what we started out with. A bloody crime scene that leads no where out of that house. The "bloody sock" notwithstanding. I still like your site. It is hands down the friendliest and that tone is set by you.

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      Tammy Eckenrode 2 weeks ago

      My opinion is the same as everyone else's and if I was in Texas I would have everyone fight her if I can do anything from North Carolina to help I will do what I can I have always believed in her and I truly believe they need to look at the husband. She has enough to have a new trial. Yeah they're just scared of all the money that they will be losing it she got free and she was really screwed by her lawyer and yes they should all go to jail I would like to be in contact with her but I don't know how to do that do you have an address for her why isn't the people from the Innocence Project helping her?

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      kezy1996 2 weeks ago

      Pollyannalana I did want to add that there is a group of people out there who have followed me from one site to another. They call out as a liar and even threatened me, trying to get me to stop posting information on the case. I have asked those individuals to prove to me that I have lied. I have asked over and over for them to prove to me that Darin didn't do the things I have accused him of doing. To this day I still get the threats, but I have yet to see any evidence or proof to show that I have misinformed or lied about anything.

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      kezy1996 2 weeks ago

      Pollyannalana  Thank you for the offer. I really don't know how to put an article together but I would love it if you would help me do that. I am not very good with computers. I even have a tough time responding to comments because I can get around the site very well.

      I am sorry to have offended your readings. I didn't mean to dominate the chat. I get carried away. There is so much evidence and facts out there that the public does not know about and I am just trying to put as much out there as I can. I can give you an email address if like, if you wouldn't mind helping me.

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      Pollyannalana 2 weeks ago from US

      Heather I am sorry to you too for I did respond to you but I can see the comment did not go in. That is happening more now this is on Soapboxie when I will assume I am signed in and write my comment but it does not always go in unless I remember to go out and back in again which when in a hurry can slip my mind.

      Again, sorry. I do the best I can and try to treat everyone with respect that deserve it.

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      Pollyannalana 2 weeks ago from US

      That is interesting SClemmons. Is it possible the vac was moved. I remember much talk when the trial began about the crime scene being messed up though. So what are you thoughts on what you are saying?

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      Heather Blaze 3 weeks ago from Jackson, MS, USA

      Sally you did misunderstand Polly. At least you get a response though. I have discontinued my alerts. No offense but this seems to have turned into the Kezzy show and I guess there is no time to respond to anyone else's thoughts or questions. For my part I do believe Darlie is guilty, her family including Darin know it but none of them will talk for their own reasons. Happy

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      SClemmons 3 weeks ago

      "The prosecution kept saying that Darlie said she was running around the crime scene, but Darlie only used the word run once or twice."

      When describing her actions in the house the night of the murders prior to police arrival, Darlie used the words ”I ran” 6 times while on the witness stand and 3 times in her police statement prior to her arrest.

      Darlie” No, sir. The vacuum cleaner was never in the kitchen while I was there

      Mulder: Okay.

      Darlie: I know, because I ran back and forth through that kitchen several times, that vacuum cleaner was not in the kitchen at all.

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      Pollyannalana 3 weeks ago from US

      Sally, am sorry you have misunderstood but I was saying you were not hostile, not that you were. I thought I was being friendly and kind but sometimes we do not read each other well, so my apologies. I was saying your opinions are welcome. Whatever they are.

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      kezzy1996 3 weeks ago

      Sally Dirk Darins guilt, and Darlie kee not coming forward with the evidence against Darin is very relevant here. If Darin killed those boys, and I believe he did that changes everything regarding this case.

      This means that the staging they suspected was not Darlie, but Darin. This also proves that Darlies statements were true.

      When you look at Darlies statements and compare it to the evidence it makes sense, it all fits.

      The prosecution kept saying that Darlie said she was running around the crime scene, but Darlie only used the word run once or twice.

      The prosecution called Darlie a liar when she said she went to Darin to try and help with Devon, but the blood evidence proves Darlie was telling the truth. All the blood map evidence matches Darlies story.

      The time there are lies being told in this case is when Darin got to Darlie and started filling in her lost memories with his own words.

      Darin had lied about everything, even things he didn't need to lie about.

      You say that I am judging Darin on his strange behavior. That is absolutely not true. I am basing my opinion of his guilt based on the evidence. I only took the evidence that could be collaborated with another witness or even two witnesses. I based it on facts that Darin couldn't change or alter, like the 911 call and his interviews.

      No matter how you look at this case, the evidence will always prove that Darin lied about the cpr done on Devon. Then he kept going on interview after interview bragging about this cpr that he claimed to have done on Devon. It was all fake. Read the facts. Darin admitted Devon was already gone when he first got to him. Thirty nine seconds into that 911 call Darlie is heard screaming oh my God Devon is dead. Yet Darin stayed with Devon right up until he heard the police arrive, he left Devon but he didn't go help Darlie or Damon, he went upstairs. Then he ran out the front door. He didn't go over to karens to get help as he claimed. Darin came right back into that house and Waddell told him to help Damon, but Darin deliberately went right past his living son and grabbed his dead son and did all that dramatic cpr on him that he had done 4 minutes earlier in front of Darlie. It was a fake a show to deceive Darlie and officer Waddell.

      That is is the proof right there that Darlie was not involved in Darin killing those boys. If she was involved then why would have to go through all that trouble doing that fake cpr in front of her, pretending to be trying to save Devon. He deliberately denied the two living victims any help at all.

      Darlie kee makes my skin crawl. This man knew Darlie was cut, read her statements she told Darin not once but twice before medics got to her that she was cut. Darlie kee knows what happened and she turned her back on her own daughter to protect Darin. All these years she focused on an intruder that never existed, and she has always known that. She used that as an excuse not to help Darlie. I don't know what her reasons were, but that is exactly what she did. She is still doing that, in the meantime Darlie's execution date is getting closer. Maybe the rumors are true. Darlie kee has book plans and movie plans. She has been cashing in on Darlie for over 20 years, but the big pay off comes when and if they ever kill Darlie.

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      Sally Dirk 3 weeks ago

      Hi Pollyanna - I sincerely apologize for any hostility you detected, as it was not my intent at all. I actually appreciate your blog post for people not getting hostile, calling names, etc.

      If you would kindly point out where you believe I've been hostile to you, or another poster, it would be helpful so I can understand what you consider hostile and not repeat that behavior.

      This is your blog and I respect that you run it, I don't feel any hostility to you or anyone in this site. I don't know anyone involved in this case and I don't feel any emotion about it. I just like to debate facts.

      Now if you mean hostile to Darlie, that's a different story, as I believe she's guilty, just like you are hostile to Darin, believing he's guilty.

      Clarification would be helpful,

      Thanks!

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      Pollyannalana 3 weeks ago from US

      Kezzy, you really should do your own article on this. You have so much information and honestly I would love to see it. You can put it together and see what it looks like even if you never publish. Why not try? I will be happy to help if I can answer any questions you might have putting it together.

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      Pollyannalana 3 weeks ago from US

      Sally, I do not mind opposite opinions at all and never have and in fact was almost convinced I could be wrong about Darlie by some but just for a little while. Although I totally disagree with you I think everyone has a right to voice their opinion and welcome it but people can do that without becoming hostile as you have proven.

      I will find the video I am speaking of as soon as I can and label it above so you can have a look at it. It still may not look like a careless cold father to you but it sure does to me and helped form my opinions about Darin as it has others.

      Thanks for stopping back by.

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      Sally Dirk 3 weeks ago

      Hi Kezzy. I do agree with you, Darin's behavior was odd. I have wondered myself why Darlie would call 911 while Damon was still alive and I have wondered why Darin would do CPR on Devon who was clearly deceased and not go to Damon, who was obviously alive. Waddell testified it was obvious Damon was alive, as he was looking around the room. Waddell also testified he asked Darlie to go to Damon twice and she never did. I am not aware that he also asked Darin to go to Damon, but possible I missed that. So neither parent helps their still alive, but dying child? Very, very weird.

      I do believe its possible Darin didn't know Darlie was hurt initially because she is up, walking around, talking with 911, and relatively coherent. The kids are not - they are lying in pools of blood so Darin's instant reaction would be for his children - assuming he's innocent. And its a big assumption, even for me.

      And oh yes, Darin's demeanor is CREEPY when he talks about his sons' murders. But so is Darlie's. She was thrilled with all of the attention at the graveyard - she invited the media herself and gave a 45 minute interview devoid of any tears or true emotion, stating that the boys had "full" lives. Seriously? What mother of a 5 and 6 year old who watched them brutally murdered would ever say her kids had full lives? My problem with the silly string video is not that they celebrated the birthday at the gravesite or that she sprayed silly string, but how darned HAPPY she looked doing it. Smiling, smacking gum. Darin had the decency to decline her offer to spray the silly string, and he stood there glum with his hands in his pockets. Not Darlie, she was happy to be performing for the cameras.

      Both Darlie and Darin had weird and creepy reactions to their sons' deaths. I find the behavior for both of them dispicable under the circumstances. I have explored this case assuming Darlie is innocent and assuming she is guilty. There are unanswered questions and inconsistencies both ways.

      What I really believe is that there is some key and crucial event or activity that happened during these murders that both Darlie and Darin know but the rest of us do not. Darlie was set to leave Darin - but after this, she stayed with him for 11 years. She was afraid to leave him, lest he tell what he knows. They both know something critical to this case that the rest of us do not know and maybe never will.

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      Sally Dirk 3 weeks ago

      Kezzy - what you say about Darlie Kee and Bryan and the rest is interesting, but totally irrelevant to Darlie's case that was tried with evidence and 12 jurors 20 years ago.

      Darlie Kee may or may not cover for Darin and she may or may not help her daughter, all irrelevant to the facts presented at trial 20 years ago.

      From what I understand, Bryan used to be a Darlie supporter, so maybe he still has a relationship with Darlie Kee, don't know.

      Darlie Kee may be Darlie's spokesperson in public or on these blog posts, but she is certainly not relevant to a court of law. Darlie and her attorneys are doing their best I presume to raise appeals amd free her.

      If there is hard evidence out there Darin did this, then Darlie's lawyers will present that unless darlie tells them not to. Whether darlie Kee wants that to happen or not is irrelevant.

      And by the way, the reason I personally feel Darlie Kee protects Darin - she knows he's not guilty! She may love her daughter but she doesn't want an innocent man to go to jail.

      Pollyanna- thanks as always for running this site and allowing all viewpoints to be shared.

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      Heather Blaze 3 weeks ago from Jackson, MS, USA

      I don't think or remember reading anywhere about Darin "practically laughing" about the CPR failure with Devon. He spoke of it many times and almost by rote but still the helpless note was there, almost bewildered. Darlie did not speak of and apparently has no such memories since she did not render any aid that can be directly accounted for. Darlie's mother probably knows she did it but was no mother of the year contender herself and like all mothers everywhere has mother guilt whether real or imagined. I have felt the most sympathy (other than for the boys) for Darlie's mother. I have seen her on video out in extreme heat, rain, etc. during critical points of needed support for anything to do with something that might help Darlie. I have seen genuine tears well in her tired eyes and real pain on her face. Life is complicated and so are relationships and I can't pretend to understand the relationship she has with Darin, but he is her grandson's father. If Darlie Kee knew Darlie was guilty but felt it was not her fault (she was pushed beyond her limits, etc.) and wanted to save her from execution, as her mother she would probably do all that she has done for Darlie while trying to maintain a civil relationship with Darin. After all, Devon and Damon were gone and sending Darin to jail would have deprived Drake of his father's support, income and love all of these growing years and they are none of them moneybags. She could even hate Darin and still see the need for civility for Drake's sake. I have spent many years reviewing this case and it always comes back to Darlie. If anything I think Darin was a lousy husband, sketchy provider and a sex maniac. Some say he was really mean to Darlie about her looks flagging after the 3rd child and people knew it. They were living in a house of cards and it was about to come tumbling down. I think Darin went at her, she went at him and then in the most depressing, dark time of night lost her complete marbles sitting there thinking about all of it. She was known to have a huge temper. People of limited intellect (Darlie) frequently see their children as possessions, ie: I brought you in this world, I'll take you out of it, kind of thing. I can find nothing to show me Darlie is innocent. I do feel sympathy for her somehow though and real sympathy for her mother and remaining son.

      I believe Cindy Black was Darin's HS GF.

      With regard to Bryan St. John aka Eric St. John: I believe the word is that Darlie Kee reached out to him in sympathy once the news broke about his son's arrest only to then later let it be known that she was only kidding around to let him know how what he had treated her felt like (He initially posed as or was a supporter, met with the whole fam, including Darlie apparently?, only to turn on them Fatal Vision Style and decide she was guilty after all. He has turned the screws on them ever since. Hard.). Anyone who has been on any of the Darlie FB sites, or seen his stuff on YouTube will know him as someone to avoid at all costs. He only wants to harangue, not really discuss.

      He has also been involved in feuds with people that went off line and caused problems on both sides. That is all I know of him.

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      kezy1996 3 weeks ago

      Pollyannalana: About Bryan and his son. I am totally shocked that  the first words out of Bryans mouth was to blame social services for not stopping his kid from having contact with that child he killed. He went to court today for his first appearance, but from what I understand this was not the first time he assaulted that little boy.

      Bryan was so quick to judge and slander Kee on the internet for the screwed up way Darlie was raised. What Bryan said and did to Darlie on the internet over the past few years was unforgivable to me. How Darlie Kee could contact him and gives her sympathy to him made my skin crawl. Bryan and Darlie Kee are not the victims here. I hope like hell people stop giving money to these losers.

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      kezy1996 3 weeks ago

      Pollyannalana I have been working with a friend who has the same beliefs that I have about Darins guilt. I admit, I don't know Darin personally, or any of the family for that matter, but after I saw those tapes and began looking into Darin the more obsessed and hateful towards Darin I became. Darin figured he was going to get rich off of the movie and book deals. He told many that. I have gotten to the point I cant even watch his videos without becoming ill. The guy makes my skin crawl.

      I am convinced of two things for sure, Darins guilt and Darlie Kee and Darins betrayal of Darlie. It would be a waste of time at this point for me to even try and get through to her because of my feelings of pure disgust towards her mother would just cloud her judgement anyway. That is the very reason Darlie is still in jail today.

      I can say one thing. There is more than enough evidence to prove Darins guilt. We are not going to stop until we find someone to seriously look over the evidence that have found against Darin. Those boys deserve justice and Drake deserves to touch and hug his mother. Darin couldn't even imagine the total damage done here. The money went dry and he moved on.

      I just hope like hell Darlie Kee and Darin don't make anymore money off Darlie and Drake.

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      Pollyannalana 3 weeks ago from US

      That sure helped turn me against Darin. I didn't see how any parent could talk about a dead child and air blowing out their chest and practically laugh about it.

      I knew nothing about Darlie Kee and Bryan or the son who killed a baby?

      It has always seemed odd to me though the closeness of Darin and Darlie Kee and the lack of help Darlie seems to be getting. Too bad someone important with a voice has not been a part of this. Poor Darlie is all I can say.

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      kezy1996 4 weeks ago

      Sally Dirk : If Darlie was apart of those murders why would she call 911 when the boys were still alive. She wasn't afraid to go near Damon, and she wasn't afraid of what he might say.

      But when it comes to Darin, its a complete different story. Darin deliberately denied both her and Damon any help at all. He gave the police a lame excuse that Damon didn't have a pulse, which we know was a lie, then he said he didn't know Darlie was hurt. Read her statement, she says she told Darin as soon as she saw him. Yet he told the police the reason he didn't help her was because he didn't know she was hurt.

      Darin spent the first three minutes with Devon. Read his statements and watch his interviews. Darin said Devon was dead when he first got to him.

      Waddell told Darin to go over and help Damon, but what does Darin do, he steps right past Damon and goes back over to Devon. Waddell knew Devon was dead, he said he didn't understand why Darin went over to Devon and not Damon. Imagine what Waddell would have thought if he knew that the cpr Darin did on Devon was a complete fake, a show just to deceive him and make Darin look like he was actually trying to help his family. We know now 20 years later that Darin used Devons body to deceive both Waddell and Darlie. Didn't you ever wonder why he lit up with joy and excitement everytime he got the chance to tell the reporters or tv producers all the gory details of how he tried to save his son Devon and how the blood spurted out? What the hell kind of parent does that? Show me one parent that is innocent that has ever acted that way.

      They talk about the silly string tape and Darlies behavior, is that really as horrible as Darins behavior?

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      kezy1996 4 weeks ago

      Sally Dirk: I don't know if you have kept up on the news, but Darlie Kee contacted Bryan St John after his son was charged with killing that 2 year old baby. I was shocked and sick to my stomach at what Darlies mother did. That woman has no loyalty to anyone. She gave her sympathy to Bryan after everything he did to that family and to Darlie, she sucked up to him because he never went after Darin. How sickening and pathetic is that?

      Bryan cursed Darlie Kee out about her parenting skills, and basically blamed her for Darlie apparently killing her kids, and there those two pathetic parents, if you want to call them that, come to each others defence after another innocent child is murdered. Give me a break. Darlie Kee and Bryan st John are going to milk every dime they can out of the death of these babies. Makes me sick, absolutely sick.

      What you don't understand is Darlie hasn't had a voice. She has relied on her mother to reach out, and what did her mother do. She defended Darin knowing all the evidence against him and she has done nothing for her own daughter.

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      kezzy1996 4 weeks ago

      I search the internet mostly

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      Sally Dirk 4 weeks ago

      Kezzy- you are definitely very passionate and that is a good thing.

      You mentioned that Darlie's attorney and the prosecution never looked at Darin, but that's not true. The prosecution absolutely looked at Darin. In fact, I saw an interview with Greg Davis that happened about a year-and-a-half ago and he specifically said that the investigators and the prosecution, himself included, were convinced that Darin knows more than he's saying. They just didn't have the evidence to prove it. Greg Davis said that directly himself. So the prosecution absolutely believed that Darin was either involved or complicit in helping Darlie cover up this crime.

      I do agree with you that Darin knows more than he is saying and that Darin may have been involved in this crime.

      Where my opinion differs from yours is that I firmly believe that Darlie was also involved in this crime. Many of the reasons for that were listed by Shaun Edmonds. My primary reason is that if this were done for insurance money Darlie would be as dead as Devon and Damon with deep stab wounds, not a quarter inch slash.

      Additionally, it's been pretty well established that Darlie herself told Mulder that he was not allowed to pursue Darin. It was one of the reasons darlie fired her original two court appointed attorneys, because they wanted to go after Darin. And she wouldn't allow it. Darlie has repeatedly, even to this day, stated that the Intruder was absolutely, positively NOT Darin. So if you truly believe Darin did it, you must also believe that Darlie is either lying or purposely covering up for him.

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      Pollyannalana 4 weeks ago from US

      I wish I could find anything new to read on this. Where do you go to find anything kezy?

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      kezy1996 4 weeks ago

      lindaf3: You know, I don't see how they could convict Bryan St Johns son when the media gets a hold of the videos Bryan has on youtube of how he treats his own children on camera. Maybe this will stop him from lying and abusing Darlie all over the internet. Maybe some truth can come out about Darlie instead of being blacked out by Bryan and his hateful followers.

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      kezy1996 4 weeks ago

      lindaf3: I can not believe what I am seeing. I have posted many time about Bryans threats on the internet, and his abusive behavior towards his children. For him to even accuse Darlie of such a crime when he cant even clear himself.

      If Bryan St. John treated his older son the same way he treats his younger children child services needs to step in and put a stop to what is going on in his home. Bryan did a very long interview with Darins employee, the one who slandered Darlie in court. He is there swearing, talking murder, and pushing his hungry child away. At the end of the video, over an hour later, he tells Darins employee he has to go because he needs to feed his kid. When is someone going to step in. I can't imagine what goes on in that home when we aren't looking. He needs to stop the abuse of everyone he comes into contact with, including Darlie Routier

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      kezy1996 4 weeks ago

      polly: The diet pill Darlie was on was taken off the market, it caused drowsiness and a number of other side affects. But the reason I believe she had to of drugged is because her blood pressure never rose at all. She should have been over the roof, but it was normal. I don't believe you can fake those types of body functions, not unless you are and expert at it. There is over whelming evidence Darlie was drugged. Why didn't she cry in pain ever throughout those entire 6 minutes? police definitely got it wrong and they need to give Darlie a new trial, let the jury hear all the evidence against Darin.

      I heard that Darin cheated on Darlie with the girl he is with now. They need to check Darin out. I can see why now his new girlfriend is chosing to ignore all the evidence against Darin. SHE HAS KNOWN ALL ALONG

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      kezzy1996 5 weeks ago

      lindaf3: Did you notice who comes to shoot you down even though you show proof of his guilt. That's the whole bunch of stalkers that go to Darins defence.

      What you will notice is they never bring any proof of what they claim.

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      Pollyannalana 5 weeks ago from US

      Kezzy- Actually diet pills I believe would raise blood pressure acting as caffeine or having it in it or whatever, so it would be really odd that it was not elevated.

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      michelle 5 weeks ago

      I stopped reading your article after I read "she had no mental illnesses". She admitted to the detectives that she had been suffering from Postpartum depression, something that alot of mother murders have suffered from. The evidence that she did it is overwhelming. If anyone else has any doubt watch the TV show Dead Again. They go through the investigation and explain throughly why the evidence points only to her. There's no way you could see this and have any doubt it wasn't her. The episode is called "Lost Innocence", I watched it for free by streaming it online.

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      lindaf3 5 weeks ago from Amsterdam, The Netherlands

      INJUSTICE PURE!!!!! READ:

      Q. Once you were in the bathroom, did you 15 get cleaned up? 16 A. Yes, sir, I did. I washed all of the 17 blood off of my face, off of my hands and off of my 18 mouth, and I had this real iron -- real dry taste in my 19 mouth. 20 Q. Okay. And you got a towel or a 21 washcloth? 22 A. Yeah, I got a towel and I washed it 23 off, and I even had some on my back, and on my shoulder, 24 and on my chest. 25 Q. Okay. In your hair? Sandra M. Halsey, CSR, Official Court Reporter 4312

      1 A. In my hair. On my glasses, and on my 2 face. 3 Q. You put on his T-shirt? 4 A. Yes, sir.

      1) CLEAN UP

      2)BLOOD ON THE BACK

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      lindaf3 5 weeks ago from Amsterdam, The Netherlands

      "I continued to meet with Mr.Mulder in August 1996. During one of the meetings I had with Mr.Mulder, he told me that the court-appointed attorneys in my Wife's case Wayne Huff and Douglas Parks , had confided in him that they were going to try and portray ME AS THE PERSON GUILTY OF THE MURDER OF MY SONS DAMON AND DEVON, because they thought that I had something to do with the death of my sons.

      ""I TOLD MR.MULDER THAT IF WE HIRED HIM,I DID NOT WANT HIM TO GET AFTER ME.. And Mr. Mulder agreed, if we hired to represent my wife, he would not argue as part of the defense that I was in any way responsible for the death of my children""......................................

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      kezzy1996 5 weeks ago

      Polly: You know another thing that bothers me to no end. The medics took Darlies blood pressure and it was normal. How is it possible that this was not brought up by Mulder at all? It may have been possible for Darlie to fake her behavior on the outside but there is no way she could have faked that blood pressure test.

      Not only that for almost 6 minutes, Darlie doesn't cry, she complain about being in pain, she doesn't freak out like someone would with injuries like that.

      They did blood tests, but only basic ones. I know certain drugs have to be specifically tested for using a different method. Those rape drugs control a persons vitals, that is how the perp is able to control them.

      Mulder didn't even go into detail about this. Mulder knew he couldn't open that can of worms because Darin was the only person that could have drugged Darlie. I believe that black car that was seen near Darins home was someone Darin bought the drugs from. I believe that person never came forward because he couldn't. What would he have said, Oh, yea, that was me I was scoping the place out, and dropped off a rape drug. Darin saw that car right when he got home from work. Don't you find that strange. Then Basia and her mother leave right away and they also see this car speeding away. Then Basia just happens to show up at the Routier home right after the murders. She doesn't tell the police she knew about Darins plans for the home robbery, not one word. What she does bring up though is this strange black car. It took Basia 20 years to come forward and admit that she knew about Darins plans. She had to know that information would have helped Darlie, but she stayed silent all those years

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      kezzy1996 5 weeks ago

      Hi Polly: I read that too, but what I understood was Mulder once had Davis job, I don't recall reading anything about Mulder being on the prosecution side unless it was another article you saw.

      You what I am wondering about. This was apparently a murder, possible suicide attempt according to the prosecution. Darlie had no financial gain obviously from killing her boys so why would she stage the crime scene to make it look as though it was an attempted robbery/rape. If she bitter and angry why would Darlie stage that crime scene to make sure Darin got a huge payout on her death. If she was angry she wouldn't looking out for Darins best interest after the crime. It makes no sense what so ever.

      I don't believe it was Darlies idea to cover up the fight they had the night before, I believe Darin expressed to Darlie his concerns that he would be the prime suspect if she didn't back him up.

      That explains all the other things Darin got Darlie to say just to make him look good.

      The reason the prosecution never came up with a reasonable explanation for the sock in the alley is because there wasn't any.

      They claimed there was no blood in the garage, but there was blood right beside Darins runners. The same runners that left fibers on the sock in the alley. The prosecution even tried to say that Darlie put Darins shoes on to go down the alley. Why the hell would she put his shoes on if she was in a hurry. The more I read into this the more upset I become. I have no idea why Mulder would have protected Darin knowing all the evidence that proved his guilt.

      There is no way in hell they could have convicted Darlie if they had been told about the evidence the other lawyers uncovered about Darin. Mulder never investigated Darin. Can you imagine how things may have turned out if Mulder had actually done his job?

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      Pollyannalana 5 weeks ago from US

      Kezzy - I have had this here for years now and am foggy on some things but did I read that Mulder was on a prior trial or hearing on the prosecution side against Darlie? Did I dream that? Can you refresh my memory about whatever that was?

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      Pollyannalana 5 weeks ago from US

      I agree Kezzy, it is just conjecture on my part but I believe Darin lead a distraught mother (Darlie) to believe and say many things and since no one was looking after Darlie but him who knows how all he may have done it. You would think in all this time Darlie may have figured this out but we must remember the trauma she has been living in all her adult life.

      When she needed someone desperately...he is all she had! Maybe he became her memory and her instigator to make her say the crazy things she did.

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      kezzy1996 5 weeks ago

      Polly: I have never seen a capital crime where the lawyers never brought any reasonable doubt. Darlies lawyer brought no evidence to back up an intruder theory even though there was evidence that could have been brought to trial to back up this theory.

      Even if they didn't go after Darin the jury should have seen all the evidence. Darin had already done an insurance scam and got paid out on it. He hired someone to the crime. This would have definitely opened the eyes to the jury for reasonable doubt.

      How could the court refuse her a new trail based on the lack of proper council. There was over whelming evidence out there that could have gotten reasonable doubt and Mulder didn't investigate any part or avenue of this case before it went to trial. Had he investigated some of the witnesses the jury would have heard about the black car and Mulder would have had information to back up that theory. Mulders hands were tied because his loyalty was split between Darlie and Darin, but there no indication that Mulder even made the slightest attempt to prove Darlies innocence. There was very little evidence that Mulder could bring into trial where it didn't directly implicate Darin.

      Darlie does deserve a new trail, but if she again refuses to show the jury the evidence against Darin to the jury, this will just be another failed trail. Its the whole injustice of this entire case that is so outrageous.

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      kezzy1996 5 weeks ago

      Jake I suppose you believe Casey Anthony is innocent?

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