Darlie Routier: Over Twenty Years on Death Row

Updated on December 10, 2017
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Met as Young Teens

Darin was 17 and Darlie only 15 when they met.

Darlie Routier is an American woman from Texas who was convicted of murdering her 5-yr-old son, Damon. Her other son was also killed, though she was only tried for Damon's murder.

Some say there is more to this trial than the official investigation showed.

These three children were Darlie's only claim to financial gain as anyone knows. Worth much more to her alive than dead if that was her purpose.
These three children were Darlie's only claim to financial gain as anyone knows. Worth much more to her alive than dead if that was her purpose. | Source

Background

How long would it take to make all these wounds?

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Were these wounds self inflicted?
Were these wounds self inflicted? | Source

Darlie has no history of mental illness. She was not abusive to her sons. She was faithful to her husband and there is no fact from anyone saying differently on any of this.

Darlie moved to Lubbock as a teenager with her mom and stepdad. She met Darin in a Western Sizzlin' where her mother worked and so did Darin as a cook. He was 17 and she was 15 and they married four years later.

After moving to the Dallas area he began his own small company that tested electronic components and when he became a success in the early nineties, they bought a nice house and spent thousands getting it just how they wanted. Darin bought a thirty-foot cabin cruiser and a 1982 Jaguar. They went a little wild with their money and Darlie bought new boobs and flashy jewelry.

The neighbors never saw them as wild though. She had kids in and baked cookies for them. Those kids stood up for her against the accusation that she killed her sons. Darin and Darlie helped out a cancer patient neighbor with a mortgage payment and seemed to have a heart. Whose idea was that, I don’t know, but Darlie was baking the cookies.

All of a sudden their business went downhill and they got behind on their bills it is claimed. They owed $10,000 in back taxes and $12,000 on credit cards. Darin and an incomplete diary entry show Darlie was considering suicide a month before the murders. It was a fleeting thought apparently.

My doctor once asked me if I had ever thought about suicide and my answer was, "Hasn't everyone?" He laughed, for it is true. Maybe to different extents but if you know the world you have thought about it. If you have something you just think you can't face you may think about it, so I consider that pretty normal and nothing to even consider in anyone's sanity.

She had gone through the birth of a third baby and was trying to get off a little extra weight and at that age I think many of us go through a little something anyway. Like did we make the right decisions in life, have we chosen the right path? Thirty is coming up and to twenties that looks old! It is nothing serious but a little something as I say, and combined with all else going on with her she probably was suffering not abnormally from slight depression. That does not a murderer make.

Looking happy as always.
Looking happy as always. | Source

What the Jury Didn't Know

Darlie's Injuries

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Never brought to the attention of the jury were other things of alarm and great importance, including the pictures of Darlie's cuts and bruises on her arms taken when she was hospitalized the night of the murders. One juror told reporters he would never have voted to convict if he had seen the photographs. I would be sure others would have agreed. That is when I knew without a doubt! These are defense wounds, clearly. Yes, there were photos of the wound but this juror and the author who at first had Darlie guilty but changed her mind later said these really bad bruised photos were never seen by them. They did see the silly string plenty though which was an illegal entry into this trial!



"When they arrested Darlie, we just pretty much lost it," says Darin, and says they have never been able to grieve for their children but it is Darlie's husband and mother who have steadfastly continued the fight. They have appeared 10 times on nationally televised talk shows, printed up bumper stickers and have a toll-free phone number ( (888) 883-FAIR) appealing for donations and information that could help "find the real person who attacked Darlie and murdered her children." They have gathered support. Right now, they say, freeing Darlie is the only fight that counts.

Drake Routier looks just like his mother. The blue eyes, wide face, and his mother's mouth. The court took Darin's custody of the child, who was 7 months old at the time of the murders, simply because he defended Darlie! This is Texas law? His parents were allowed to raise the baby and he was given rights to visit him but still! Does this horror never end? If Darin is guilty of nothing how could they take custody of his child from him?

Darin and Darlie moved into her mother's home after the murders and lost the $200,000 house they built, also their 35-foot cabin cruiser, '86 Jaguar, plus some. Legal fees and bad publicity about the case ruined him financially. His electronics business, bringing a salary of $500,000 in 1995, lost 14 of its 17 clients and all its employees.

Are Her Injuries Authentic?

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She was a genius if she planned this one. So real looking.  Did she do this?Or this?Why would she put a planned bruise here, I wonder?Seems like a slight turn would be a clearer picture, doesn't it?
She was a genius if she planned this one. So real looking.
She was a genius if she planned this one. So real looking.
Did she do this?
Did she do this?
Or this?
Or this?
Why would she put a planned bruise here, I wonder?
Why would she put a planned bruise here, I wonder?
Seems like a slight turn would be a clearer picture, doesn't it?
Seems like a slight turn would be a clearer picture, doesn't it?
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One-sided Testimonies

There were many bad testimonies from people making Darlie look bad. There were no testimonies of the people who saw her much differently. Darin and Ms. Kee claim Darlie's trial mocked the judicial system. Evidence that would have cleared her was never presented, witnesses who could have contradicted the prosecution's assertions never testified, forensics testing was botched, and depositions were distorted.

Unidentified Fingerprints

Forensic fingerprint tests done after Darlie's trial still show that she is innocent of the crime for which she was convicted. A bloody fingerprint taken from her living room coffee table did not belong to anyone living in her home, and two more fingerprints in the utility room and door leading to the garage in which Darlie thinks the murderer escaped the Darin's home after attacking her and her two sons. No matter, repeated requests, the Court will not grant the evidential hearing necessary to investigate and evaluate this evidence.

Taken from the utility room door is a patent bloody fingerprint—this is the first one. Forensic fingerprint analyst Glenn Langenburg proved positively Darlin is excluded as the owner of this print. Darlin's exclusion as the source of this print indicates that an unknown third party not only deposited this print, but deposited it in blood, on the night of the murders.

The second print taken from this door is a latent print located below the patent bloody fingerprint. Latent print consultant Robert Lohnes checked this print in 2003 and said that it matched the second finger joint of Darin Routier on the middle finger of the left hand.

In addition, Langenburg currently is conducting a second examination of the bloody fingerprint on the utility room door to determine whether Darin Routier can also be excluded as the source of this print. If, as Darlie expects, Darin Routier is not the source of this print, Darlie definitively will have demonstrated that an unknown third party deposited two separate fingerprints, one of them in the victims' blood, while fleeing the scene on the night of the murders.

Other Unexamined Elements

Who Had the Most to Gain?

Insurance Scam Attempt

Darin Routier has admitted to trying to arrange an insurance scam, which included someone breaking into their home. He has admitted that he had begun the initial steps to arrange a break-in, but that it was to be done when no one was at home. No jury has heard this admission.

Surely any law would be all over this, how many ways could this be the answer? Maybe not even the way Darin meant it to be but caused with unlawful schemes. I could understand them suspecting him, I really could, and why don't they? I don't believe Darlie would even suspect him, but if I were Darlie I would have to give that some serious thought, but I think Darlie is as I say so much like my own daughter. Either a lack of intelligence or too much into her self, which does not equal a murderer. I keep waiting for my daughter to change and act more mature, but I suspect like Darlie it is just who she is. No changing.

"Birthday Party" Footage

The "birthday party" film that was viewed by the jury that made me think that is a killer, showed Darlie dancing on the graves of her son along with other family members, but did not show the hours previous to that scene when Darlie sobbed and grieved over the graves with her husband Darin. Why was the entire footage not shown?

Black Car on Night of Crime

Neighbors saw a black car sitting in front of the Routier home a week before the murders took place. Other neighbors saw that same car leaving the area on the night of the murders.

Missing or Damaged Evidence?

There was talk the police did not protect the evidence as they gathered it, possibly damaging its origins. Is this true? The investigators told the press that the screen was cut from the inside though it was later proven in court to be cut from the outside. Hm? Police investigated this? The investigators took the fifth amendment—what were they afraid to say? You know without doubt they are hiding something. How are law witnesses allowed to take the fifth? On their deathbed will just one of them spill the truth?

Where Was Darin?

When the paramedics arrived at the scene they said that Darin Routier was outside, but Darin was inside trying to save his children, so who was the man they thought was him? It was reported the testimony of the nurses was coached and rehearsed in mock trials by the prosecution prior to their testimony.

Cut in Darlie's Neck

Saying the cut in her neck was 2mm of the carotid sheath but external to the carotid artery was what Darlie's operating surgeons reported, and that the necklace she had on blocked the cut from going deeper, showing the seriousness and unlikelihood that Darlie did or even could have done this herself.

Found Hair

There was a pubic hair found in the living room. Whose? Did debris on the knife in the kitchen get debris on the knife from police in the kitchen investigating the murder, or did it come from the screen door?

Darin's Jeans

Darin's jeans had blood on them. Why did no one look into this? (Dear God! He is walking around free, he looks the more guilty of the two!) Sometimes I think children could run this world better. Does nothing enter the court's mind about this? Is it too late because they would be hanging themselves? Are they just that lazy? So they just pick someone so it's over?

Mistakes in the Court Report

The court reporter made mistakes in the manuscript so was there an improper read-back of testimony? Why is prosecution not forced to turn over evidence they have that should be available to both sides? Gee, anyone who watches TV knows this rule.

Reluctance for DNA Testing

WHY? DNA testing could put many of these questions to rest. Why is there such a reluctance to do the testing? Many, such as people interested in writing Darlie's story have come to her side and since then have run into convenience problems seeing her or were simply blocked!

Reasonable Doubt

An Incomplete Picture

Video shows....

Darlie changed hands to slit her throat?

Nurses had two different testimonies.

Claims certain photos were not seen in trial.

Bloody fingerprint not identified.

Missing transcripts from court papers...words changed to change meanings.

It is impossible to believe how much trouble the legal system will go to to make things turn out the way they want. Just knowing the jury did not see this picture is enough to get the woman a new trial, but no. Not only did she lose two children murdered but she cannot get back her youngest son. So one day she may get out and a big settlement. What about the ones who do things like this? Shouldn't they be locked up? I think so!

My View of Her Changed As I Got More Evidence

When I saw Darlie dancing around her children's graves, spraying silly string, laughing and acting so happy I thought, "of course she killed those babies," and I was filled with hate, seeing her acting this way and those babies of hers, murdered and in the ground beneath her.

I can't say that I accept this behavior even now but people are different and I know they are. It still doesn't make them guilty of murder. I really felt so guilty the more I listened, read, and learned. I am not the only one with a change of mind.

With Darlie, what I did not see was the same as what others did not see: Proof. How long will our rotten dirty judicial system keep getting by with having their say, right or wrong and hiding information to make things go the way they want? Why do they continually do this? What I and the jury did not see was Darlie's horrible cut and bruised black arms and hands: defensive wounds, without a doubt.

I have read many true crime books and this is almost a common thing, it has happened so often. The law wants to solve a crime so quickly some idiot decides how it happened and then makes sure it looks that way.

The Elements of Doubt

There are many things missing in this case.

  • Darin's admission of an insurance scam attempt.
  • The screen that was mis-reported as being cut from the inside.
  • Possible improper read-back of testimony to the jury by the court reporter
  • Apparent conflict of interested with the attorney that represented Darlie Routier at trial had an apparent conflict of interest, because he was said to have had a prearrangement with Darin Routier and other family members not to pursue any defense that could implicate Darin. This attorney supposedly stopped key experts for the defense from finishing forensic examinations.
  • The pictures of Darlie's cuts and bruises on her arms which were taken when she was hospitalized the night of the murders.
  • The prosecution's refusal to provide access to any evidence in their custody in the case.
  • No DNA testing.
  • Some writers who have interviewed Darlie Routier have decided to help her fight to get a new trial. Since reporting their opinions on her situation, they report that their ability to visit her has been blocked or made so inconvenient that little can be accomplished.
  • During the trial investigators invoked their Fifth Amendment rights against self-incrimination during cross examination, preventing the defense from rebutting their testimony. Why? This alone would be reason for disbelief and a new trial!

Was This Just a Witch Hunt?

My take on the case

Wake up. Watch your back. It could be prison, pain, mental, or physical cruelty that Darlie will get them for. The list goes on and they know it, and besides that, people like me who will not let anyone forget how accountable they are and how often.

Look at Jon Benet Ramsey, her justice, her family, her poor mother. All those years with their eyes never looking anywhere but at mourning parents. Now does anyone think of the father, the brother? Does anyone think their lives will ever be normal? How different is this case?

Someone runs in and makes a Great Basil Detective decision and that's it! Look no farther. The whole force there should have been fired. They ruined three peoples' lives and found no justice for Jon Benet. Big surprise.

We know there is no justice and we know it a little more every day. What is wrong with these people put there to protect and help us? Do they need testing? Who are they? Did they come from prisons as someone in California says theirs do? Maybe we should be investigating them. It certainly looks that way.

There are so many and I think I would believe here is a case Darlie has against them for sure. They are covering their butts, with no compassion or interest in finding the true criminal.

They just don't want it found out they were wrong and if they do, they may have to pay big, which someone above them is warning them about. But for them, they should have to pay or go to jail, just like what they have put this woman through. If she is innocent, they are guilty, but what ever happens to them, they have committed a crime and are still committing it right now as far as I am concerned.

I am sure the law would force them to turn over evidence . . . or will it go so long it all just gets lost? We have heard that one too many times, huh? Hopefully their hands will be forced eventually and that is when we should demand true justice. They have no evidence against this woman. She at least deserves a new trial with all the evidence. If she were a rapist she would get it!

Look at that woman's wounds. The jury never did. I am not sure whoever her lawyer was shouldn't be charged. Look at all he failed to bring up or show that jury. Isn't that alone enough for a new trial?

We seem to have either many ignorant or crooked people in this case, and even if Darlie gets her new trial and is proven innocent and compensated (and how is that possible?), these people will never have to pay.

They may give them a vacation with pay until everyone forgets. There is so much of the judicial system in all of America that needs a serious investigation of why they are the way they are and in my opinion, much of America needs a clean sweep.

Some Things This Video Covers

No witness

No motive

Bloody fingerprint reality

Two who say dark wounds not shown

Darin failed polygraph saying he did not stab Darlie

Darlie unaware few minutes that she is even wounded

Diane Sawyer - A must watch!

Darin Describes How Cops Ruin Crime Scene

Compare emotions of each parent as they speak of their sons.

Problems with this case!

Older video but full of reasonable doubt!

Facts for doubt

Doctors and Nurses Have Two Stories

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      Pollyannalana 7 days ago from US

      So many facts ray, why don't you tell us why she of sound mind did this but not killing the baby who would have been the most trouble and about the dog not being anywhere until the very end and how they managed to take Darin's baby from an innocent man? Just for starters that is.

      Her defense was as big a joke as her being charged. Darlie did not have a snowballs chance in hell and appears she still doesn't.

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      raynjuls 12 days ago

      Let's get a few facts straight. The bruising photographs WERE introduced by the defense. Doug Milder was one of the most successful prosecutors in Dallas county history, and has stated repeatedly that they were introduced. The defense also knew about the "somber" funeral tape, but chose not to highlight it. The silly string tape only exists because the Routiers invited the media to tape the ceremony. Finally, the single unidentified print is damning not exculpatory. This criminal mastermind did all that carnage, then took off his gloves long enough to leave a SINGLE print? Sorry, Darlie is guilty as sin, and every subsequent review of the evidence has shown that to be the case.

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      No name 2 weeks ago

      I think her husband was in on it

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      Pollyannalana 2 weeks ago from US

      So true Cheryl, they can use any excuse they want and take your possessions and keep you in prison forever and then let someone like this loser illegal immigrant go free that does not even deny killing a young girl and he was protected in a sanctuary city again and again after being deported and don't think we are not keeping these criminals up just like the Boston Bombers. Send them to school, give them a home and food while they make bombs against us and kill our citizens!

      And look at the Americans who support these criminals and defend them. Unbelievable!

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      Cheryl 2 weeks ago

      Lawless America. The law can strip you of your life, stack the cards against you, lie, withold evidence that would prove your innocence and nobody gives a shit. I'm horrifies

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      MForbes 2 weeks ago from gatesville

      lindaf3 your very welcome. Thank you for trying to help Darlie

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      Tony 3 weeks ago

      I've never believed that darlie did this to her son's. Darren may have organised a burglary that went wrong but I don't think he ever wanted his family murdered.

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      lindaf3 3 weeks ago from Amsterdam, The Netherlands

      Finally!!! Finally people start to see how guilty Darin is. Thanks MForbes for all you do.

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      Pollyannalana 4 weeks ago from US

      Sage, I at first thought along those lines, not believing a father could plot this out against his own wife and children but then after reading all that MForbes has written and listening to a cold heart Darin talk about his boys I do think he may have well been the murderer for the insurance on his wife. Learning she may leave him and having love interests elsewhere sure makes him suspect to me. I also think the cops thought it after it was too late and why they took his baby. How else could they have taken him? Darin didn't lift a finger to get him back. Still does not show any love for him that I have seen.

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      Sage49 4 weeks ago

      I live in Dallas and paid very close attention to this case. There is no way Darlie Routier could have killed her children. This is the worst case senario of justice denied for the slain boys and their mother. For the love of God, I cannot comprehend how Darin Routier, Darlie's husband and father of her children, was not charged in connection with the murders. I believe he was involved in setting up a break-in in his home so he could collect on an insurance policy to bail himself out of financial problems, a break-in that went very wrong when his unsuspecting wife tangled with her assailant while protecting her little boys. This case was botched by an ethically questionable justice system that has allowed an innocent mother to sit on death row for 2 decades. I pray that the court gets this right before it's too late.

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      Pollyannalana 5 weeks ago from US

      Thanks Angela, totally agree!

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      Angela 5 weeks ago

      I have always said she was the scape goat to close a case. I believe with all of my heart she's innocent. It's impossible to sustain the injuries she had by self infliction. I pray for her to one day get a new trial and all the evidence be presented.

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      Pollyannalana 5 weeks ago from US

      Valerie - My thoughts exactly! I think so many heads will roll, once (if ever) they do get into it.

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      Pollyannalana 5 weeks ago from US

      I would love to have seen that MForbes, where did you see that?

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      Pollyannalana 5 weeks ago from US

      Tee Payne - It was my feelings at first that there were others who came in to kill Darlie for Darin and the boys were in the way but after hearing Darin talk about his dead and dying boys I know he had no feeling whatsoever about that and believe he could very well have done it.

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      Valerie Six 5 weeks ago

      I have known, read, researched, and continued to try to understand how this young lady.........at 26 years old.....and now 46 years old....is sitting on death row????? There are so many injustices to this world we live in...but this one is HUGE! This lady didn't murder her children......they know it, we know it....and yet, she sits......God love your heart Darlie......prayers! I so wish I could help!

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      Anom 5 weeks ago

      Honestly with all the evidence, i think the father had something to do with it. Her wounds are defensive, and he admitted to trying to stage a robbery for around that time. Not to mention the life Insurence he took out on her.

      The failed polygraph, and the mens bloody sock.

      The jury fked up. And now nothing will probably fix it. This supposed father should have been the one on death row. Not the mother! How does he not,hear the screams of the children being killed? How is it that he didnt hear her scream but yet he heard the glass break. Seems to me like hes full of shit.

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      MForbes 5 weeks ago from gatesville

      Tee Payne , Darin does fit the profile. You have to take everything into account. They fought that night, he was broke losing everything, she asked for a a divorce. There was cocaine found in the room he was sleeping, take into consideration what the side effects are with using cocaine. Extreme anger. She asked for a divorce, she obviously cut him off of sex. He increased the amount of her life insurance. He had all the motives and the opportunity to do the crime. He even fit the description of the intruder.

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      MForbes 6 weeks ago from gatesville

      Hi Polly, there is a new death row stories that came out for season 2. They are finally opening up about the truth about Darin. Not all the truth but at least some of it. They are finally admitting to the life insurance policy Darin had on her and it being made to him and him alone. I have always believed this crime was about the money and that has not changed. The more I research Darin the more convinced I am that he was more than involved in the crime. I think if they went after Barbara Jovell we would be able to solve this once and for all.

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      Tee Payne 7 weeks ago

      Let's just say that Darin fits the profile more than Darlie. He would fit the revenge filicide profile of parents who kill i.e women hardly ever use knives as thier weapon of choice. A large number of women who kill thier children suffer mental illness and there is usually a warped justification for the crime i.e they believe in thier state of pychosis that the children are in some way better off with God etc and more often than not express this at some part of the crime. Darin would indeed fit the profile of a family inhilator if not for the fact Drake was left alive. This is why I don't think it was Darin. Maybe Darin did put the word out for the robbery and something went wrong. The alternative is that this was a stranger crime and it is a possibility it happens more than people like to think. Most cases ive seen like this are only reported by local news channels people are I'll informed about stranger murders and it's prevalence.

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      Pollyannalana 7 weeks ago from US

      js2000 - Colette - I think whoever sliced Darlie's throat thought she was dead and whether Darin did it or not I believe he was behind it for the money and to keep Darlie from divorcing him and taking his money to support the kids and with them alive he still had to support them. I feel sure it was a money and freedom thing for him. He was ready for romance and a new life. He got it, too. Did he care for and support his living child, even in bad health? NO

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      Pollyannalana 7 weeks ago from US

      I am not sure on that Jen but MForbes who posts here and knows more than probably any of us about it says Darlie's description fit Darin and that Darin changed his appearance after that! She has photos too, so I know he did do that.

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      Pollyannalana 7 weeks ago from US

      Joey there are funds but I absolutely would not give to Darlie's Mom or husband. I will see what I can find out.

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      Colette 7 weeks ago

      So, who do you think did it and motive?

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      js2000 7 weeks ago

      Mborbes,

      I believe you have done extensive research on the case. And, I would like to have your opinion on a few issues that I have a hard time figuring out.

      First, I believe Darlie and Darin are on it together. I believe it because

      a. There is no evidence of an intruder. The police stated that the one bloody foot print was from one of theirs. They have not been able to match the unknown bloody finger print to anyone and I think it could be one of theirs as well. Darlie stated that she fought with the intruder but there was no evidence of even an intruder exist. With such a violence, it is impossible not to have any evidence of an intruder.

      b. The crime scene is staged (i.e. window screen is cut but no trace of entering thru there, knife used in killing was from the house and no finger print from an intruder. Bloody sock inexplicably left in the alley, broken glass over blood, blood mark on the vacuum cleaner...) . Maybe Darin went outside and left the bloody sock.

      c. The forensic evidence shows that blood marks on Darlie’s cloth indicate they were only created while swinging a knife. For me, this was a key evidence against Darlie. Also, Darlie handled the knife and the vacuum cleaner.

      d. Both Darlie and Darin have changed their stories multiple times. And, Both of them failed lie detector tests.

      e. The forensic evidence shows that both children got multiple deep stabs. Some of the strikes were so powerful that they penetrated the body and made mark on the floor. The children were sleeping right next to Darlie. It’s a fairy tale story that Darlie did not wake up during the attack her children.

      f. The alleged intruder did not take any items from the house. So, he is not a bugler. If the intruder came for killing, he would kill an adult first.

      g. If Darin wanted to kill Darlie for insurance $250k, why he did not kill her? Each child had only $5k insurance on them. If Darin killed the children, he must have been naked or hid a bloody cloth and took a shower. And Why would Darie lie for Darin if he killed her children and tried to kill her?

      I think they were very unhappy in marriage and did not want to have the burden of those children. Actually there are people who commit a crazy crime on purpose to become famous and make great deal of money out it. I don’t know exactly what was on their minds but I think there are great deal of physical evidence against her.

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      Jen 7 weeks ago

      The one question I never heard asked of Darlie and never heard her offer was a description of the mystery intruder who killed her sons and attacked her. If she was guilty she would have made sure to make up a vivid description.

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      Joey 7 weeks ago

      How can a person help. Financially or emotionally or even helping with petitions? Please advise. I for one after viewing said documentary believe she was flimflammed, shammed and scammed. Its true injustice!

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      Pollyannalana 8 weeks ago from US

      I think you are right M. I do hope something happens soon.

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      Pollyannalana 8 weeks ago from US

      Certainly agree, Jeff. Just no motive given. They tried to prove her a slut but that does not make a murderer and I would think many on that jury have rethought it many times over the years.

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      Pollyannalana 8 weeks ago from US

      Maybe you could tell us why she did it Jim? A very good mother with nothing to gain, no proven lovers, just kills her kids.

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      Jeffm152 8 weeks ago

      Re-trial

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      Jeffm152 8 weeks ago

      There is no feasible motive. No explanation for the bloody sock found 75 yards away. The prosecution presents the string party but no mention of the emotional two hour ceremony prior? I hate how the prosecution attempts to show the "proper" way to grieve. Unless you were stabbed, with a wound millimeters away from death and lost two children, judgement should not be cast on the "proper" way to grieve. The verdict was based on biased blood spatter experts, a flawed investgation, pre conceived notions, perjury, an inept court reporter and fake breasts. It is shameful that this women is not given another trial.

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      MForbes 2 months ago from gatesville

      They need to give her a new trial, and a jury needs to see the extent the police screwed up and how the prosecution twisted her words. They spent more time on that silly string tape than they ever did looking at any other evidence. A new trial would bring to light how much Darin was really involved.

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      Pollyannalana 2 months ago from US

      Annie-Who knows really. The clothing was contaminated wasn't it? Put in the same bags. Could whoever murdered them set her up? Especially if it was Darin wanting to make it look like she did it? I mean I am sure he did some planning having the dog locked away, so why not? That really does not worry me at all.

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      Pollyannalana 2 months ago from US

      MForbes - They made Darlie look like a tramp not a murderer, and that is exactly why she was convicted. That and someone helping her look like a nut...in which case she should have been tried as one.

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      Pollyannalana 2 months ago from US

      Lameduck many of us share your feelings and if Darlie is ever released she deserves millions. I just hope she is smart enough to get far as she can from her family other than her son.

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      Pollyannalana 2 months ago from US

      Simon, you do have a lot of truth there and I cannot blame you for your feelings. We do have some good law enforcement and good people there but they are getting harder to find, basically because the left has been running things too long and lawlessness is simply overlooked.

      I can never get over this female judge letting an illegal immigrant go that raped a little girl in home he was living in and because he claimed to not speak English and have no interpreter (although many right there claimed that was not true) she let him go. Where? Back to the little girl's dwelling.

      This sort of thing has many of us screaming but all we can do is try to change the leadership and hope for change.

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      Simon Harlow-Chalrton 2 months ago

      I have been following this case for years and find it totally unbeleivable and unacceptable that a so called " legal system" can operate with such incompetance and total bullshit from laywers who simply want to protect their own damned fucking lying shity lives that will will kill another human being rather than own up to their "mistakes". You in the USA badly need to look at your legal system, NOW because like it or lump it in America you are GUILTY until proven innocent. O P E N your eyes, get a real system working for the people in your country and STOP killing innocent people to hide your own inadequacies. My wife is American and I really did wish to move and settle there but with a bunch of idiots no better the chimpansies running the legal system there is no chance. My brother in law was shot in the head INSIDE his own home by an ex police officer because she didn't like him and grabbed the opportunity when it presented itself. For God's sake, please wake up you hypocritical bunch of so called law enforcement officers and your gee whiz lawyers and smell the coffee.........And the truth!

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      annie doro 2 months ago

      How did Darlie get the boys blood on her shoulder then? & I'll never understand how Darin slept though it all. Just so coincidental kids downstairs sleeping & a intruder kills them first?

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      MForbes 2 months ago from gatesville

      Pollyannalana I agree with you Polly, they don't want to look at Darin but they are sure to judge Darlie. Darlie didn't attack Darin and she would have gotten over 350 thousand dollars. So why not attack him first then the boys then herself? The whole theory the prosecution came up made no sense what so ever. She was broke losing the house and credit cards and she just happens to not harm the only person who could have changed her lifestyle? What the hell was that jury thinking?

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      Ben Stapley 2 months ago

      Their own house knife cut the screen. The evidence proves beyond a doubt she staged the scene. This report is extremely misleading

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      Lameduck1 2 months ago

      Not only was Darlie convicted on The bases of the Silly string video mainly, how could she have a fair trial when her lawyers could not question the 2 lead investigators because the judge instructed them and they plead the 5th. It is so sad that she has never been able to hold Drake even through his cancer. Greg Davis is nothing more than an arrogant jerk. How can he possibly think he can even begin to know Darlie. Just because she cares about her appearance does not mean she is guilty. My prayers continue to be with Darlie and her spporters.

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      Pollyannalana 2 months ago from US

      Yes, Wendy, there were many, many reasons to suspect Darin over Darlie. Boggles many minds why he was never even suspected but since they took his baby from him I think they soon knew the truth but could not back down. I hope he finally faces the piper...on this earth...am sure he will on the next.

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      Pollyannalana 2 months ago from US

      Tresa, do you have any reason why? There was minimal insurance on the boys. As I have read part of the marital problems were over Darlie wanting to look and act more like a mother for her boys. She was tired of playing sex object for Darin. She may have had problems when this happened but most look to me to be coming from an over sexed, money loving husband. He would be the one to benefit from her death. He was in need of money and as I have heard...Darlie was threatening to leave him...or kick him out.

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      Wndyandrsn 2 months ago

      I'm not surprised at all about the medication. That was during a time that doctors had no qualms about throwing a band aid over a problem, usually way over prescribing, at that. I must admit that I haven't read much about the theory about the husband. I do remember reading about the marital problems and financial issues, so he's as much a viable suspect as anyone. Heck, maybe he even hired someone. We just may never know. It's just so scary that something like this could happen to anyone and them, being the victim, could turn around and find themself on death row.

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      Pollyannalana 2 months ago from US

      It is a fact Darlie was on ant-depressants and talking some stupid stuff. I have always thought someone helped make her look guilty with this very thing and how easy would that have been for her most trusted friend (and husband)?

      I seriously believe he fed her ideas and probably upset her on purpose to make her look guilty. I mean he is saving himself so why not, he certainly wanted rid of her and that failed.

      Why would a mother, husband and lawyer let them get by with having her convicted because the prosecution made her look like a tramp, therefore murderer. It should have been so easy to get a retrial on that alone, not to mention the dozen other things.

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      Wndyandrsn 2 months ago

      I have read a lot from this, saw many of the re-enactments on TV. I must say, they like to show the "silly string" thing. That has never fazed me at all. I have never felt that Darlie was guilty at all. Just my opinion. But it makes me really sad that she's lumped into other child murderers, although, I know some would say that she was convicted, but I believe hers was very unjust. Too many unanswered questions here, especially for a human being's life on the line. You can't say a person is guilty of murder simply because they put on a game face for the masses, knowing they were on display, and God knows what kind of antidepressants they were probably on, just trying to honor their child.

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      Pollyannalana 2 months ago from US

      Thanks Zo...many of us agree with you!

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      Zo 2 months ago

      Reasonable doubt is there. So she shouldn't get the death penalty. She shouldn't even be convicted. Yep cicumstancial evident only saids to me I think she did it. Which is BS

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      MForbes 2 months ago from gatesville

      No worries Polly, just worried about you. Haven't spoken in awhile. I wrote a couple of new hubs. Thought you might enjoy. Good to hear from you.

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      Pollyannalana 2 months ago from US

      Sorry M, have not even been to my email in weeks. Will check it soon and get back to you.

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      MForbes 2 months ago from gatesville

      You are right about that Polly. I havent heard from you as late. I hope you are well, miss talking to you. I posted a new hub with some goodies in there, hope you will find the time to read it. I would love to hear your opinion. Hope we talk soon.

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      Pollyannalana 2 months ago from US

      Guess we would have to be on death row with no help from the outside to know what we would do. Let's hope it never happens to one of us.

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      Carol 2 months ago

      How can anyone make excuses for this woman she killed her own children!! what kind of mother does that, there is no justifying killing your own child and jumping around her children's grave how unacceptable I would have fought for the DNA testing of the crime scene I would have pointed out everything wrong with the investigation if I didn't kill them

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      Pollyannalana 2 months ago from US

      Sounds like a winner to me Lameduck and if someone wants to start a petition to Trump I will surely sign it and put it out there all that I can.

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      Lameduck1 2 months ago

      The whole investigation was a farce. How many people stomped through the crime scene before it was photographed, sketched or items were gathered for testing. How many items were placed in each bag causing cross contamination, I know people may be sick of this but Darlie's defence was a joke and the only thing the prosecution had to do is play the famous tape. The crown must have some doubt or Darlie would have been executed by now, Maybe someone should approach President Trump to pardon her. Even if she did do this she has done her time in prison and in public opinion. Maybe they will straighten things out and throw Casey Marie Anthony in jail and let Darlie out.

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      lindaf3 2 months ago from Amsterdam, The Netherlands

      Well Mister Waddell if your spelling is always that bad.. I am wondering how many other mistakes you made and make... Its : Ridiculous not Rediculous. A policeofficer should know the difference..

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      MForbes 3 months ago from gatesville

      I am no expert on cpr training or procedures, but I do know this. Darin claims to an expert. He bragged about how he has over 7 years of cpr training.

      Officer Waddell said that he came into the house and he looked over at Devon and knew he was dead. He also said he looked at Damon and Damon was moving on the floor looking around the room.

      Here is the thing. Waddell didn't know this at the time, but Darin already did cpr on Devon for over three minutes before Waddell arrived at the house. He did cpr on Devon when Devon was still alive. From what I understand about cpr procedures you DO NOT do cpr on a child who is still breathing on his own. If you go to the 911 call. Devon is alive when Darin goes over to him. He isn't moving but he is alive. according to Darlie. Several seconds later after Darin had been administering cpr to his living son, Darlie goes back to that boy and now he is dead. She screams out on the 911 call. Oh, Devon no, Devon is dead. Darin knew by administering cpr to his living and breathing son, he was drowning him in his own blood.

      Not only that, Darin knew Damon was injured. He knew that boy needed pressure put on his wounds to stop the bleeding, but instead of instructing Darlie or officer Waddell to do that, Darin completely ignores Damon. In fact, he ignores that boy for over 7 minutes.

      So now we know that Darin deliberately did cpr on Devon knowing it was obstructing his breathing, then we also know that he denied not only Darlie any assistance, but he also denied Damon any help what so ever.

      Had the police investigated Darin, or even listen to the 911 call they would have known immediately what Darin had to his family.

      Darin made up several excuses as to why he never helped Damon, first he said he didn't know he was hurt, we all know that was a lie. Then he said he didn't help Damon because he had no pulse, that made no sense specially when he admitted to Greg Davis he never even touched his son Damon. Then Darin changed that story and he said that his cpr training told him not to turn Damon over. Well, that did not prevent him from putting pressure on Damon wounds, or even telling Waddell or Darlie to do it.

      When Waddell arrived Darin fled out that front door with the intent of deliberately delaying help to his dying family members.

      He not only ignored and walked past Damon and Darlie once, not twice but over three times never touching or helping either one of those victims.

      Darin did that horrific cpr on Devon in front of Waddell just for show. He did that to distract, shock and as an excuse not to help Darlie or Damon.

      All the police had to do was listen to that 911 call and all Darins lies since the attack and the story speaks for itself.

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      MForbes 3 months ago from gatesville

      Waddell, You are forgetting that you were taped on that 911 call. Darlie said nothing to you at all about her jewellery when you first arrived.

      Secondly, Darin was not doing cpr on his son to save his life. Darin did cpr on Devon for over three minutes before you even arrived at that house. Darin has seven years of cpr training. He knew that Devon was alive when he did cpr the first time. He knew he drowning his son in his own blood. When you arrived Damon was laying there alive moving. Darin deliberately went right past Damon to get to his already dead son.

      You should be ashamed of yourself. You not only lied on the stand and should have been charged, but you also denied the living victims any assistance.

      You said you told Darin to go over to Damon because you said you could see Devon was already dead. You said you didnt understand why Darin went past Damon and went over to his dead son. Both you and Darin denied Damon any assistance. You were so shocked that you allowed Darin to play you the fool.

      Darins actions drown his son Devon, and his refusal to help Damon also cost that son his life. Then Darin lied about not knowing Darlie was injured. You knew bloody well Darin was outside yelling someone stabbed my wife and kids. You knew he knew Darlie was seriously injured and she was bleeding to death.

      SHAME ON YOU WADDELL

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      Waddell 3 months ago

      First off in the middle of everything that had just happened, as a parent you would never give up and assume your child is dead. Nobody knew for sure he was already gone at that point. Second there was not a child walking around and if there was he certainly would not have needed CPR. Darin, like me probably assumed that Darlie was going to assist her other child.

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      Pollyannalana 3 months ago from US

      Was that on both his sons or the one he already knew was dead? Why did he not do CPR on the one walking around? The one who went to his mother (who supposedly stabbed him) and not his father?

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      Waddell 3 months ago

      I usually dont respond to these rediculous conversations but I don't know where ms Forbes is getting her information on who said what inside the house. Darlie was the one asking me about her jewelry being stolen and Darin was doing cpr trying to save his sons life. The transcript is an accurate account of what took place.

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      Pollyannalana 3 months ago from US

      He will eventually for sure. It will be way more than a 20 year sentence.

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      Jonid 3 months ago

      Hi Polly, Darin is a worm, an evil spiteful evil worm. I hope he gets what he deserves and soon

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      JezMyOpinion 3 months ago from The South

      DNA confirms her guilt:

      https://youcouldbewrong.files.wordpress.com/2014/0...

      Darin knew what she had done the second he saw the boys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDQOAj1LeqU&t=...

      In an update to her case, Darlie and her attorneys have conceded that she is the only possible killer, as noted by the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals on May 21, 2003. A request for retesting forestic evidence was granted on June 18, 2008. During the Summer 2014 a judge ordered for more forensic testing again. That testing was completed in June of 2015. Only unidentified thing is a smudged finger print that is Darlies size, just too smudged to id.

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      Pollyannalana 3 months ago from US

      I am so pleased to see people finally looking at Darin for the worm he is. Even before I suspected him (so many years ago) he was a real creeper talking about his dead son he played with instead of seeing to his son who was alive. I think even Darin lover's are having to back off with so much pointing to Darin! The real shame is Darlie's mother supporting him instead of her own daughter.

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      Jonid 3 months ago

      I wish there was something we could do about getting Darin exposed. More and more people are really starting to suspect Darin. Once you see a few of his interviews and you start to look into him, the more the evidence points to him killing his boys. I think its only a matter of time before he is exposed for the murderous monster he really is.

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      Pollyannalana 3 months ago from US

      I so agree with you Jonid but who is it going to take to ever make a deny in these efforts? The case is so old many have no idea what is going on with Darlie and fewer know of these little tidbits about Darin leaking over the years. I really wish there was something we could do!

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      Susan kelly 3 months ago

      Just watched the program obviously there is reasonable doubt. A 're trial is a must, this is a life which is going to be taken. Justice real true justice!! Also the husband is very suspect, could he have hired someone? He had a lot to gain with the life insurance policys and failed

      The polygraph test!

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      Jonid 3 months ago

      Polly, you are a wonderful lady. Love the honesty in your article.

      Personally, I believe Darin murdered those boys. I also believe there is enough evidence out there to prove this without any doubt what so ever.

      I say let Darlie go, and give her a new trial. Make Darin the prime suspect and he will be convicted of murdering his boys as well as the attempted murder on Darlie.

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      Pollyannalana 3 months ago from US

      Thank you Amanda for sharing that with us. We all are different and as a matter of fact Darlie was crying in the first video that the prosecution wanted to not have seen. I saw her with her head on her sister's shoulder, mourning her sons. Some just see what they want to see.

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      Amanda 3 months ago

      To me it makes perfect sense why she would spray silly string and act happy. She must have believed that her boys were watching her and she wanted to be happy for them. It is like what all good mothers do, put their children's happiness before their own and that's what it looked like Darlie did until the very end. A bond between a mother and child is the strongest form of bond in the world.

      When my mom died we had a service that celebrated her life and happy memories. I was smiling the whole time cause I wanted to be strong for my brother when I was dying on the inside. My dad told me to stop smiling because it was weird...i just hate crying in front of others so I smiled instead.

      I see Darlie' s fun tribute to her sons as something a lot of mothers would do. I know if my mom was in Darlie's shoes she would do that for me and my brother. I would have done that if I was in Darlie's shoes.

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      Pollyannalana 3 months ago from US

      I hope you are right but anything is possible. If anyone comes up with any new clear evidence they may decide to. This is the most corrupt judicial bunch I have ever looked at.

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      Pollyannalana 3 months ago from US

      Yes John, Darin was more than a little suspicious, why many of us wonder why the police seemed to refuse to even consider it may have been the only person these murders and attempted murder would benefit. Texas might be big but sounds like some peanut brains.

      Saffron - You make some great points and I have always said if she did indeed murder them then of course she was prosecuted in a very wrong way for no one has even tried to prove Darlie was the type person to do this so surely out of her mind if guilty and she should have been given mental help besides being sentenced in that manner...but then maybe this doctor would have helped prove her innocent and they sure did not want that. I think they knew they had made a mistake before the trial was over, they took Darin's baby...they knew he murdered the boys. Or had it done.

      FreakRobinson - Darlie has been given the death penalty and has been on death row over 20 years now. You are right, for some reason the ones who blame Darlie have a one tract mind and will look at no other theories. Sad. Dangerous type people too.

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      FreakRobinson 3 months ago

      I wonder what's gonna happen to her?, if she's given the death penalty I will confirm the country has a poor justice system, the evidence Texas doesn't want to see is mounting and one day if god wants it will see the light.

      Some people use the silly string footage to show how cruel she was nothing more than that, so I have a simple question for them, if she was so cruel to make a birthday party at the cemetery where her boys were buried as you said why on earth didn't all of you blame the other family members too?, appart from her husband.

      There were other people who didn't stop Darlie and the idea of the silly string wasn't even darlie's, I heard it was her sister's. So her sister is the person you should actually point the finger not Darlie.

      I'm sure she was wrongly convicted but also think she will not be given the death penalty because there are a lot of doubts and the prosecutors are afraid.

      I can imagine the day when the state announces Darlie was killed by lethal inyection, there'll be a lot of hysteria. don't ya think?

      What would you do if they execute Darlie?

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      SaffronSugar 4 months ago

      I have been researching the story of Darlie for awhile. This really was a witch hunt. There is no proof and definitely not enough evidence against her to convict. I agree that Darlie seems shallow and a bit of a child (I hope your daughter doesn't read your negative view of her, that certainly won't help her to become the woman you would rather she be) but this does not make her evil.

      How was the husband missed?! He had participated in dodgy schemes before with the car, several people interviewed have said this and it could be true. He may have owed, or been involved, with some very unsavory people. This could have been revenge or a set-up gone wrong.

      When we look at the Susan Smiths and the Andrea Yates type murders, we see women who killed their children and then were considered mentally ill. These women, with no previous violent histories, did not get the death penalty. But from the start Darlie was seen to be sane and guilty. Now I don't think she did it, but those who believe she murdered her children are also positive that she was of sound mind.... it seems that they just didn't like her.

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      John 4 months ago

      I just saw a documentary on this case. The evidence against Darlie seemed overwhelming. I haven't done much research on the case so I can't really determine guilt or not. I am curious about a piece of evidence that didn't make sense. A sock with the blood from the two boys wss found outside near a trash can. How did it get there? Did Darlie go outside, drop the sock, then reenter the home? Also, Darin didn't ask about the boys when the police first arrived. Apparently he made some ridiculous comment about how hot Darlie was and he could understand why someone would assault her. Seems very suspicious to me.

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      Pollyannalana 4 months ago from US

      Why would he have a big insurance policy on her and keep it paid up while having debt problems? And no, the dog did not show up until his last trip upstairs. It amazes me those two things did not get him instead of her. Ridiculous.

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      Bmcnair 4 months ago

      I must have missed the details of her asking for a divorce and the dog. I could never see Darin considering murder of the only woman he ever loved and two of his children he loved dearly.

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      Pollyannalana 4 months ago from US

      Bmcnair - That is possible, if you want to overlook all the facts like the insurance he had on Darlie and not himself, her asking for a divorce, the dog not showing up until it is all over. Those are indisputable facts but just hearing him talk about the one dead son that he does love to go on and on about doing the CPR, gave me cold chills and I have never forgotten his attitude about it all. This did not look like a mourning father to me and I knew right then he had something to do with it, whether he did it himself or not. And why did he not help the only living son who was not going to him but to Darlie for help?

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      Bmcnair 4 months ago

      Granny, statements assuming Darin is guilty is pretty much what put Darlie in the situation she is in. I don't think either one of them did it. The unknown finger print in blood is still not answered. Darin worked for me during the time his first two boys were born. We both were new fathers and most of our conversations were about every little detail of what our kids were doing as they developed. He loved those boys very very much.

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      Pollyannalana 4 months ago from US

      Thank you Granny. How can anyone of sound mind not have reasonable doubt here? A murderer is walking free and clear and no doubt accomplices.

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      Granny Cathy 4 months ago

      I just watched death row and heard about this for the first time. Reminds me of Australia's Lindy Chamberlain case. If I had not read this report and all the comments I could have thought she was guilty but all the fingers point to Darin....how can they not see that. And I wondered if they proved her wounds were self inflicted.... Many unanswered questions.

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      Pollyannalana 4 months ago from US

      I prejudged Darlie just reading and hearing about this silly string incident until I saw the broader picture. I cannot understand anyone who cannot look at the whole thing and be able to change their view. I am proud that I could and did.

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      Bmcnair 4 months ago

      I knew them both back then and they loved their children very much. I believe the investigators focused on her and proceeded to say and do whatever had to be done to prove they were right. About the scene at the cemetery, I remember being at a graveside service and after a time of sadness, talk turned to the fun and funny memories of the person in the ground. We were all laughing at the crazy stuff that person had done. I think that is a fairly common occurrence.

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      Pollyannalana 4 months ago from US

      SS - Couldn't agree with you more. A very poorly done prosecution and defense! She never had a chance and we were all assuming those who loved her would look out for her and now my puzzlement at that time why no one shut her up is pretty much solved. It was not her they wanted to protect!

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      Sabina Sykáčková 4 months ago

      I thing Jeff the Dopp211 probably didn't want answered you because he must know that your info is correct. Too many evidences show that she is innocence.

      Why police didn't see any leads to another possibilities- tunel vision. Very bad trials etc. = sad story and sad for law and human rights

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      Jeff Hertzberg 4 months ago

      I am shocked by the 36% of morons that are STILL somehow convinced of this woman's innocence. My guess is that they haven't bothered to read or review the blatant, undeniably exculpatory evidence in this case. Idiots are desperately hanging on to the hope that our legal system is infallible. Just the fact that this woman was stabbed in the throat with her necklace having to be surgically removed from her neck, and the proof that it was the only fluke that saved her life, stopping the knife a centimeter from her carotid artery. Instead, a very minor and specially selected clip of an otherwise exculpatory video, was used to beguile and undermine the common sense of the jurors and play on their emotions. The extensive, impossibly inflicted injuries, zero motive, the 911 phone call, the foreign fingerprints, impossible timeline, the sock tainted with the blood of both boys found unexplainably far from the scene... This is another case in which law enforcement and legal system ignored any other lead, and pursued/distorted a senseless, ridiculous and impossible scenario to trick a jury and get another win, no matter how unscrupulous, knowingly allowing a child murderer to run free. They are obviously afraid to retry this case, and as usual, their reputations and admissions of fallibility are far more important than the truth, justice, human lives, and and a legal system with integrity. Sadly the power and narcissism held by officials and authorities and their abject zealousy, leads to frequent legal misconduct, corruption, tunnel vision, and malicious perversions of their duty and authority. I have heard the arguments from the prosecutorial side as to why this case shouldn't be retried, and the are just uncompelling, regurgitations from the original case. The evidence speaks for itself, and nobody on the prosecution's side has offered or even addressed how there is any possibility that there could be another guilty verdict if there was a new trial. Even the original jurors are ashamed of their verdict. These prosecutors and police should be facing life sentences. The 36% of people that still support her sentence can not be intelligent by any means, and I would love to hear their common sense defying arguments for her guilt, and explanations of the overwhelming evidence pointing to her innocence. I truly don't think they care, just like the authorities fighting to keep this evidence from the eyes and ears of a new jury

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      Pollyannalana 4 months ago from US

      dopp - On the very silly string tape you speak of that the cops recorded is also her somber and crying, but they made sure not to show that and yes, why didn't her defense attorney make sure that was seen? Good question. Telling too.

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      MForbes 4 months ago from gatesville

      Suggs Not even so much as a simple investigation into Darin. Very sad. I do believe he directed them to suspecting Darlie. The creep even moved in with her mother just to be close to the investigation and the case.

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      dopp511 4 months ago

      Um it kills me how they say "things not brought up at the trial". Wouldn't that be her defense lawyers job!!!! She testified at her trial. people who think she is innocent have no brain. She is guilty as hell. They said why did the jury only see her celebrating and spraying silly string at the trial. well if she was so somber and sad before the celebration why didn't her defense bring that into the trial, you stupid people just don't get it!!!! Rot in prison.

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      Pollyannalana 4 months ago from US

      Exactly, Suggs. Why was that not their first suspicion? He must have really been cunning in planting Darlie as the murderer in their minds.

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      Suggs 4 months ago

      I really really believe that the husband paid for a hit on his wife and kids. Surprise that angle never came up for the defense. He has the most to gain.

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      Pollyannalana 4 months ago from US

      Like you MForbes I started out screaming but as you know you cannot talk to the Darlie haters and they are not interested in evidence, especially against Darin.

      The police set it up to look like Darlie did it and made her look like a tramp and that is just enough for a lot of people, they don't want to look further but I so agree with you that if Darin did not stab his sons he was right there when it happened and may as well have.

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      MForbes 4 months ago from gatesville

      You have been Polly, I have so much respect for you and what you do. Unlike me you stay calm and don't let your personal emotions take over. I really enjoy visiting with you.

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      Pollyannalana 4 months ago from US

      Really it is ridiculous and I know if the right person sees all this information Darlie may finally get her break. We will sure work on that!

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      MForbes 4 months ago from gatesville

      You Polly, I am starting to think that we are not going to get anywhere unless we can put the knife in Darins hand. They had no solid evidence when they went after Darlie, but when it comes to Darin the entire crime is mapped out like a fingerprint. I just don't get how they all know what he did and no arrest is being made.

      Drake and Darlie should have been together years ago. Darin is still pounding his lies and fake stories of herioic cpr attempts. It just makes my skin crawl. The guy is just pure evil to the core. So full of hate. I believe this stemmed from the resentment he has always felt about his controlling mother. Who was that killer that killed his mother and a bunch of others because of the way she treated him?

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      MForbes 4 months ago from gatesville

      Thanks Polly, it is very frustrating that the police had gotten away with this. When I see Nabors evil lying face I want to puke. How is it even possible for a loser like that to still be on the police department? He is so desperate to make sure he sticks around and continues to cover up all the conspiracy and mistakes the police made. Sickening really.

      Did that portion on the affair prove to you she had more than enough reason to suspect Darin of cheating?

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      Pollyannalana 4 months ago from US

      I do remember reading that there had been a fight and Darin drove Dana home and it is beyond me how law can overlook all these facts you have brought up and in fact it should have been the first thing they looked at for he has every reason to be the one who is behind this.

      I will email you about the other and I have some very interesting info you may want.

      Soon as I can.

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      MForbes 4 months ago from gatesville

      I wanted to show you my new addition to my hub. Its a long one sorry about that.

      The first thing that drew my attention to this affair between Darin and Dana was I had read in Darin's statement on June 8th, that Darlie had made him take Dana home.  The hour was late and it was during a week day.  Darin had neglected to mention anything at all in that statement regarding the encounter he had with Officer Waddell outside, or any of the important details that happened after they entered the house, but he went into detail about driving Dana home.  Darin also never mentioned the fact that him and Darlie fought that night about this alleged affair.  He never told the police that Darlie accused Darin of having an affair with Dana.  Darin never told the police any details that would have made him look like the suspect.

      According to Darlie she said she asked Darin to drive Dana home late that night because she wasn't feeling well, but that  didn't make any sense to me at all.  So I dug a little deeper.

      If I was right about this affair, or the fact that Darin had been trying to seduce Dana, this was more than enough of a  motive for Darin to have snapped that night and decided to go ahead with his plans of ridding himself of his huge financial burden.  Darlie asked Darin for a separation that night.  If that were to happen Darin knew he would not only be financially crippled for years to come, but his chances with Dana would be reduced to zero.

      I knew that Dana had been staying there several days and had done this many times in the past.

      When I learned that Dana was now working for Darin at the shop it just confirmed my suspicions that there really was truth to this rumor.  Darin was broke.  They were behind on the mortgage, the bills, credit card payments, everything except for the insurance policy.  Darin made sure that insurance policy stayed in good standing.  Darin was even behind on the rent for the shop for his business. The rent was $543.00.  So how was  it possible for Darin to be able to afford to hire yet a second person in the shop, when he struggled to pay Barbara Jovell? 

      What was even more suspicious about Darin hiring Dana was the fact that he didn't just hire Dana.   He hired a nanny/housekeeper for Darlie. He hired Barbara Jovell's mother. If he couldn't pay his bills and he had no money, then how was it possible for him to have hired a nanny to come into the home and help Darlie?  The bigger question is why wasn't Dana there helping Darlie?  She was already staying in the home at the time, so why did Darin have to bring someone in to help Darlie?  I wasn't able to pin point exactly when the affair might have started, but I was convinced at this point that something was definitely going on. 

      This information I uncovered also confirmed that Darin was never investigated.  This would have been uncovered during any investigation and they would have been questioned about this affair, but they weren't.  This proves the police had tunnel vision towards Darlie.

      Darin made another comment about his interaction with Dana after he got home from work on June 5th.  Darin went into detail of how he had an encounter with this black car speeding past his home when he arrived home on June 5th, then he went into detail of how he went into the house and him and Dana decided to play with baby Drake.  Darin went into detail of how he took baby Drake into another room out of view of Darlie and the kitchen.  He said he took the baby there with Dana because there was carpet on the floor instead of hardwood.  He was concerned about Drake falling and hurting himself.  Dana spent all day with Darin, why wasn't she helping Darlie in the kitchen with dinner?

      Did I read that right?  Was Darin actually saying he was concerned about his 7 month old son playing on hardwood, yet he just got through saying he came home and was alarmed by this black car speeding past his home.  Damon and Devon were outside his home alone.  They were unsupervised riding their bikes.  This is a 5 and 6 year old child.  Darin had already expressed concerns to other neighbors about this car, he never informed Darlie of his concerns, but he made a point of telling the neighbors about it.  This whole situation stuck of Darins sneaky guilt.  I was sick to my stomach to know that the police hadn't even checked out this very important detail in Darins story.

      I kept searching to see if there was anything else that indicated an affair.  I learned that while Darlie and Damon were dying and Devon was laying on the floor dead in the living room left as evidence, Darin called Darlies sister Dana.  Of all the people he could have called, it was Dana.  I was shaking after reading this.  Could Darin have really been that evil, that cold?  Yes, he could have because he did make that call to Dana.  What makes this even more of a tragedy is Darin called Dana to have her call Barbara Jovell to go to his home to give that false police statement.  The first thing that came to my mind was that 911 call.  Throughout that entire 911 call Darin was not crying out about his family.  He was crying out loud enough so the 911 operator was convinced that there was an intruder in home.  He even got to the point where he was obstructing Darlie call with 911 to make it clear about the intruder.  The final straw was the last portion of the 911 call.  Darin is heard talking to the officer.  He is desperately trying to convince him and intruder took and he ran.  This guy was talking about items taken from the home by this so called intruder while Damon and Darlie are bleeding to death right in front of him.

      Darlie finally steps in and you can hear the anger in her voice.  She sternly tells Darin.  "This was deliberate Darin, some one came in here and did this".  Darin just kept this up arguing with Darlie.  She finally told him not once but twice.  There is nothing missing.  She wanted the focus to stay on getting an ambulance to her children, but Darin just kept pressuring them about the intruder.

      What most people don't realize is Darlie is on the phone with 911 still trying desperately to get an ambulance to the home, and she is being tended to by Waddell for her own wounds.  Yet Darin is standing there with 7 years of cpr training and he never went near is living son Damon.  He never touched that boy the entire time.  While he was standing there trying to make his insurance claims and convince the officer there was an intruder in the home Damon is laying there dying in front of him.

      The tone of Darlies voice at that time also confirmed to me that there was a lot of tension between her and Darin.

      Getting back to the phone call to Dana.  Darin knew when he called Dana to have her call Barbara Jovell to come to the scene to make a statement about the black car it was all false.  Darin knew the entire time that him and Barbara Jovell were behind setting up that black car to stalk the home.  This was about as cold as anyone could ever get.

      I kept my search up on any information of proof of an affair between Darin and Dana.  Then I came across a statement an older neighbor lady made about an incident at the house. 

      This was a reliable witness in my eyes.  This was an older lady. retired school teacher.  She said 12 days after the murders she witnessed Darin and who she believed at the time was Darlie, but we later learned it wasn't Darlie it was actually Dana at the home with Darin. 

      She was shocked at their sickening behavior.  Darin and Dana were in front of the house laughing and joking with each other like a married couple.  They were tossing the gifts that strangers bought for the boys into the back of Darins car.  They were laughing dragging the wreaths to back the  yard to the garbage.  Cleaning up the house just as though the crime was going to disappear with the garbage.  What was shocking was what Darin did next.  Darin took a flag laughing and joking and climbed up that fountain in his front yard and planted a flag on it.  He was acting like a love sick teenager, yet he was a 28 year old father, married who had just lost two children by being brutally slaughtered.  It was about the most evil coldest thing I

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