Darlie Routier: Over Twenty Years on Death Row

Updated on August 9, 2018
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Polly is far from politically correct when it comes to justice. Truth means more to her than making fans by saying what they want to hear!

These three children were Darlie's only claim to financial gain as anyone knows. Worth much more to her alive than dead if that was her purpose.
These three children were Darlie's only claim to financial gain as anyone knows. Worth much more to her alive than dead if that was her purpose. | Source

Who Was Darlie Routier, and What Did She Do?

Darlie Routier (pronounced "rue-tier") is an American woman who lived in Rowlett, Texas, and was accused and convicted of murdering her five-year-old son, Damon. Her six-year-old, Devon, also died that night; however, she was not tried for his murder. The text from her indictment reads: "the Defendant, on or about the 6th day of June, A. D., 1996, in the County of Dallas, and said State did unlawfully, then and there, intentionally and knowingly cause the death of Damon Christian Routier, an individual, hereinafter called the deceased, by stabbing said Damon Christian Routier with a knife."

Darlie had no history of mental illness. She was not abusive to her sons. And her youngest son, seven-month-old Drake, and husband, Darin, were unharmed. There seems to be conflicting evidence, such as the police suggesting that Darlie's wounds were self-inflicted and Darlie claiming that a man attacked her and her sons.

Some say there is more to this trial than the official investigation showed.

Let's take a look.

The Timeline and the Individuals Involved

Timeline

  • June 6th 1996 2:31 AM: Darlie makes a frantic phone call to the police, alleging that someone broke into the home and stabbed her and her two children.
  • June 18th 1996: Darlie is arrested.
  • February 1997: The trial is moved from Dallas to Kerrsville, a small and conservative town with a high murder-conviction rate.
  • February 4th 1997: Darlie is convicted of murdering Damon and sentenced to death by lethal injection.
  • May 2003: Darlie appeals, and the appeal is denied.
  • 2011: Darlie and Darin's divorce is finalized.

Individuals Involved

  • Darlie Routier: The woman the case centers around. Accused of and convicted of killing her five-year-old son, Damon.
  • Darin Routier: Darlie's husband from 1988-2011. He upholds Darlie's innocence to this day.
  • Damon Routier: Darlie and Darin's five-year-old son. Was found DOA.
  • Devon Routier: Darlie and Darin's six-year-old son. Died on the way to the hospital.
  • Drake Routier: Darlie and Darin's youngest son. He was seven months old at the time of the murders.
  • Greg Davis: One of the lead prosecutors.
  • Toby Shook: One of the lead prosecutors.
  • Tom Bevel: A blood spatter expert who testified for the defense. He has since been involved in a sizable number of false convictions due, at least in part, to his erroneous "expert" testimony.
  • Doug Parks: Darlie's initial court-appointed attorney. He was eventually replaced by the famous defense attorney Doug Mulder.
  • Stephen Cooper: An attorney who has been representing Darlie for the last twenty or so years.
  • Doug Mulder: Darlie Routier's attorney and was a bit of a celebrity attorney in Texas.
  • Jimmy Patterson: A Rowlett, Texas, police officer investigating the case.
  • James Cron: A forensic consultant who was asked by the Rowlett police to help investigate the Routier crime scene. You can read his testimony.
  • Terry Laber: A forensic specialist who was primed by the defense to refute Tom Bevel's claims. For whatever reason, the defense never called him.

Before the Murders

Darlie moved to Lubbock as a teenager with her mom and stepdad. She met Darin in a Western Sizzlin' where her mother worked and where Darin was a cook. He was 17, and she was 15. They married four years later.

After moving to the Dallas area, he began his own small company called Testnec that tested electronic components. When he became a success in the early nineties, they bought a nice house and spent thousands getting it just how they wanted. Darin bought a thirty-foot cabin cruiser and a 1982 Jaguar. They went a little wild with their money, and Darlie bought new boobs and flashy jewelry.

The neighbors never saw them as wild though. Four of her friends attested that she was an excellent mother and a kind, warm, fun-loving person. She often had the neighborhood kids over and baked cookies for them. Those kids stood up for her against the accusation that she killed her sons.

All of a sudden, their business went downhill, and they allegedly got behind on their bills. They supposedly owed $10,000 in back taxes and $12,000 on credit cards, which isn't an especially noteworthy amount of debt for a newly married couple who just bought a house.

There was a very brief entry in Darlie's diary that was about suicide. My doctor once asked me if I had ever thought about suicide, and my answer was, "Hasn't everyone?" He laughed because it was true. Maybe to different extents, but if you know the world, you have thought about it. If you have something you just think you can't face, you may think about suicide. So I consider that pretty normal and nothing to even consider in anyone's sanity.

Thirty is coming up, and to some in their twenties, that looks old! It is nothing serious, but a little something as I say—and combined with all else going on with her—she probably was suffering from slight depression, which seems normal everything considered. And that does not a murderer make.

The Night of the Murders

The timeline for the night of the murders went something like this:

Darlie called 911 around 2:30 AM, frantically trying to relay that someone had broken in, stabbed the boys, and attacked her. She claimed to have woken up to someone being on top of her. Darin and their youngest son were upstairs during the time of the attack, and they were unharmed. The police arrive about 3:41 seconds into the 911 phone call.

Devon was pronounced DOA, and Damon—barely alive—died on the way to the hospital.

Damon and Devon Routier
Damon and Devon Routier | Source

Let's Examine the Evidence

Did Darlie Routier Do It or Not?

That's a really great question. While I have my beliefs, let's go through each hotly contended aspect of the trial so that you can come to your own conclusions, and then I'll tell you have I feel.

Inexperienced Police Force

Several of the documentaries note that the Rowlett police department was inexperienced at investigating murder cases because they simply didn't have many murders occur in their precinct. For instance, you can actually hear the police officers arrive at around 3 min and 48 seconds into the call. Wadell, one of the responding officers, didn’t sign off on the 911 call. You always say “I’m 10-7. I’m on the call.” Wadell does not do this. You can hear someone speaking to her, but it's in the background and muffled. She may be answering Wadell’s questions. He claims that he told her to help her son, but Darlie didn’t get the towels like he said she should. Darin claims he told Wadell to give Damon CPR, and Wadell did not. Why didn’t the trained police officer help?

The Rowlett police department had never had a case like this, and there was a lot of public pressure to solve this case—especially because it came on the heels of the Susan Smith case, which we'll discuss later on.

Terry Laber, one of the defense's expert witnesses (even though he was never called to the stand), claims that James Cron made his determinations about the crime scene after being there for only twenty minutes. You'll recall that Cron was one of the civilian investigators that the Rowlett police department brought in to help investigate the crime scene.

Evidence Collection

Evidence collection isn't a foolproof objective task. When evidence is collected, investigators decide what to look for and where. If they think someone is guilty and has committed a crime a certain way, they will likely look for evidence to corroborate that theory rather than taking all of the scene's evidence. For instance, if they thought that someone cut the window screen at the Routier house, they'd look for evidence that supports that theory. Dan Simon, a professor of law and psychology at USC, explains the bias inherent in evidence collection in The Last Defense.

James Cron, by his own admission, said that he came to the conclusion that an outsider did not commit this crime. How could he have decided that so quickly? His proclamation that this was an inside job undoubtedly influenced investigators—perhaps to the point where crucial evidence was overlooked or ignored.

Simon, the law professor, claims that "Sometimes peoples’ beliefs or conclusions or hypotheses drive their perception of the evidence." In other words, this all could have been subconscious bias. It isn't necessarily an active choice in some ways.

Additionally, the traditional chain of command was not followed in this case, meaning that there was ample opportunity for cross contamination.

And it seems worth mentioning that some facts were simply glossed over or misrepresented. For instance, the prosecution argued that someone didn't break into the house because there was no evidence—besides the slashed window screen—of a break in. According to them, there were no footprints leading to the window, and the dust on the windowsill was not disturbed. The prosecution didn't mention the the windowsill was nine to ten inches off the ground, so you wouldn't have to touch the sill to get in. And that the driveway was made of cement, so of course there wouldn't be prints!

Character Assassination/Trial by Media

The prosecution made Darlie out to seem like a superficial, vapid, vain woman who cared more about money and looks than her children. However, her friends, family, and neighbors thought very differently of her. They thought she was an exquisitely loving mother and an excellent neighbor. Julie Clark, one of her neighbors, said that Darlie always had popsicles for the kids and was just a fun, loving person. Richard Smith, another one of her attorneys, said that "Character evidence is supposed to be completely inadmissible because it allows the state to obtain a conviction without actually proving the crime itself, and it was the centerpiece of this trial."

Dan Simon, a USC professor of psychology and law, said that “Persuasion can occur in the form of evidence… but when we don't have good, rational ways to persuade one another, we appeal to emotion, innuendo, and stereotypes. They’re not the most principled ways to prove a legal case, but these are all very effective ways to persuade someone.” And this exactly what the prosecution did to Darlie: they asked about her spending habits, her breast implants, and about her social status. Kathy Cruz who wrote Dateline: Purgatory about the Routier case argues that "It wasn’t just character judgements that were used against Darlie—it was Texas character judgements.” You can be a good mother and want to be beautiful. The two are not mutually exclusive.

Richard Mosty, one of Darlie's defense attorneys, summarizes the prosecution's strategy quite effectively: “When you pile on all those things—from an evidentiary standpoint, they don’t add up to anything. But that’s not the purpose. The purpose is to create prejudice against her. So when what facts they have do come out, there’s already a tainted person in front of them.”

Questionable Tactics

The prosecution really went after Darlie as a person, rather than focusing on the facts of the case. They also showed the nurses, who gave testimony, photos of the butchered boys for no apparent reason. They boys were not treated by the nurses at Baylor. Dan Simon notes that “Exposing people to gory photos of butchered children is bound to have an effect on them. And research shows, by the way, that showing simulated jurors gory photos indeed increases their tendency to convict the person because it causes the unrecognized desire to find the culprit.” Jody Fitts, one of the Baylor nurses who treated Darlie, said that the prosecution didn't ask them any questions about the photos, nor did they treat the children—so there was really no reason to show the nurses the photos.

Blood Evidence

Glass in the Hallway: There was a call to explain how and why Darlie's blood was under broken glass, which Cron (a civilian investigator that Rowlett asked to help consult the investigation) claimed was evidence that Darlie didn't go back into the room after the glass fell because there were no cuts on her feet. However, when the inexperienced officers arrived on the scene, securing the scene wasn't the priority; saving the boys was. This means that the scene was in chaos; it's absolutely possible that the glass was knocked over during the tumult of trying to save the boys. At best, this evidence seems circumstantial. Barry Dickey, an audio expert interviewed by Forensic Files, claimed that you can tell by the audio quality that Darlie is frantically moving rooms.

Blood on the Shirt: Tom Bevel, a blood-stain expert who wrote Bloodstain Pattern Analysis, claimed that several small drops of blood on the back right shoulder of Darlie's nightshirt were indicative of excessive force that could only have been placed there by an extremely aggressive stabbing motion full of violence and hatred. He "proved" his theory by making exaggerated stabbing motions on a dummy and getting similar results. Bevel admits that he didn't take notes on how his experiment could be recreated. He says that he was instructed by Mr. Davis (the lead prosecutor) not to take notes. Laber and Bart Epstein, two forensic experts for the defense, claimed that Bevel's experiment that "proved" the blood on Darlie's shirt had to come from angrily stabbing someone was nonsense.

Bloody Footprints: Luminol revealed that some blood and bloody footprints had been cleaned up before the police got there. Darlie's blood footprints were found on top of these cleaned-up ones.

Bloody Knife Outline in the Living Room: There was bloody knife outline that Bevel claimed was likely made by someone who was profusely bleeding and holding a knife. To the prosecution, this suggested that Darlie was the one holding the knife, since her wounds would have been bleeding profusely. Darlie admits in the 911 phone call to having picked up the knife and potentially messed up the fingerprints.

Lack of Motive

Robbery doesn't seem to have been a motive because nothing appeared to have been taken from the scene of the crime. Insurance fraud also doesn't seem to have been a motive seeing as the boys' funerals cost more than their life insurance policies. They each had a 5K life insurance policy on them; the cost of the funeral was somewhere between 10-12K. You also don't have to prove motive in Texas.

Moving the Trial From Dallas to Kerrville

Doug Parks, Darlie's court-appointed attorney, made a mistake and requested that Darlie's trial be moved to Kerrville county instead of Dallas. Parks accidentally played into the prosecution's hands. Kerrville was notoriously conservative and has an disproportionately high murder-conviction rate. Recognizing his mistake, Parks asked for the trial to be moved back to Dallas county, but the motion was denied.

Came on the Heels of Susan Smith

Susan Smith is a woman from South Carolina who was accused of murdering her two children. She was convicted in 1995 of drowning her two sons. The case was a national sensation. Smith initially claimed that an African American man had carjacked the family and driven off with her two sons in tow. This was later proved false. She had a history of mental illness, depression, and attempted suicide. Skip Holland, interviewed on The Last Defense, argues that “Everyone was thinking that this [the Routier trial] was the Dallas version of that [the Susan Smith case].” So the public's perception (including the potential jurors') was undoubtedly colored by this crime.

Defensive Wounds

The prosecution claimed that Darlie's wounds were self-inflicted and superficial. One of her wounds was a slash to the throat that came with 2cm of her carotid artery. Your carotid artery is one of your major blood vessels that supplies blood to your brain. According to at least one study, you don't typically stab yourself in the neck if you're trying to fake wounds. An in-depth study with graphic photos demonstrates some of the differences between self-inflicted and assault- or accident-inflicted wounds. It seems unlikely that Darlie's wounds were self-inflicted.

The Diary Entry

Darlie wrote in her diary about contemplating suicide. In The Last Defense, Greg Davis says, “Mothers don’t usually contemplate suicide, either.” And this simply isn't true. Postpartum depression is a well-documented and researched—and legitimate—thing that affects many women. Cheryl Meyer, a psychologist and author who wrote Mothers Who Kill, says that postpartum depression is pretty common, and it doesn't necessarily translate into murdering your children. She goes on to say that “I don’t see anything in there about harming the children or taking them out of the future equation.”

The Bloody Sock

There was a bloody sock found about two streets away. The sock did have Damon and Darin's blood on it, and the sock was one of Darin's from the utility room. That means that the sock was present at the time of the murders; however, the prosecution never explained how the sock got there (or how Darlie would have had the time to run down the alley, plant the sock, and get back to the house before the police arrived). Why would an intruder take a sock but leave the murder weapon? Why would someone leave the sock in plain sight?

Single Fiberglass Fiber

Investigators found a single fiberglass fiber on the bread knife that was in the knife block. The only fiberglass source that they could find in the vicinity was the window screen that was cut. In some ways, this suggests that the knife may have been used to cut the screen, implicating the Routiers. However, another expert notes that single fibers are notoriously mobile. It could have come from anywhere and just settled there, including the fact that it could have migrated from the window screen after it had been cut and gone into the knife block. If investigators dusted the screen first and then dusted the knives, it's possible that a single fiber could have been transferred from the screen to the knife. This is why alleging things based on a single fiber is tenuous at best.

Inconsistent Testimony

Darlie was treated at Baylor hospital, and the nurses who treated her gave inconsistent testimony. In their notes, the nurses note that Darlie is sobbing and asking about her children. On the stand, several of the nurses called her "whiney," which is a very specific word choice. When questioned, the nurses said:

Nurse Diane Hollon: “We were supposed to meet at 12:00 noon in Toby’s room.”
Doug Mulder: “And who’s ‘we’?”
Hollon: “Everybody, all the Baylor people.”

This is called "preparing the witness," and the ethics of it are a bit questionable. There's a pretty thin line between preparing and coaching. It seems possible, given the specific use of language that wasn't noted anywhere in the original nursing notes, that they may have been coached to say these things or use this language. Why would medical professionals call someone who had just been viciously attacked "whiney"?

Birthday Party Footage

The birthday party film that was viewed by the jury showed Darlie, family, and friends celebrating his birthday near her son's grave. It did not show the hours previous to that scene where Darlie sobbed and grieved over the graves with her husband Darin. Why was the entire footage not shown? In The Last Defense, a 2018 docu-series about the Routier murders, juror number eight claimed that Darlie's actions were "disgusting" and that "they wouldn't have liked this." How does she know? She isn't the expert on these children. The prosecutor also claimed to be "sickened" by her behavior. But trying to be normal in the face of overwhelming tragedy doesn't seem that unrealistic. Dr. Gregory Davis says that there are essentially as many manifestations of grief as there are human beings (The Last Defense). Darin also said that "We chose the song ‘Gansta’s Paradise’ for their funeral because it was their favorite song. We really didn’t think twice about whether or not it was appropriate—it was still their favorite song… that’s how we wanted to honor them."

Unidentified Fingerprints

A bloody fingerprint taken from her living room coffee table was demonstrated by no less than three experts to not belong to anyone living in her home. Two more fingerprints in the utility room and door leading to the garage were also shown to not belong to Darlie, anyone in the family, or anyone investigating the crime. Darlie thinks the murderer escaped the home after attacking her and her two sons. The court will not grant the evidential hearing necessary to investigate and evaluate this evidence.

Taken from the utility room door is a patent bloody fingerprint—this is the first one. Forensic fingerprint analyst Glenn Langenburg positively proved that the prints do not belong to Darlie. Robert Lohnes also claimed that the fingerprint did not belong to Darlie. Her exclusion indicates that an unknown third party not only deposited this print, but deposited it in blood on the night of the murders.

In addition, Langenburg currently is conducting a second examination of the bloody fingerprint on the utility room door to determine whether Darin Routier can also be excluded as the source of this print. If, as Darlie expects, Darin Routier is not the source of this print, Darlie definitively will have demonstrated that an unknown third party deposited two separate fingerprints, one of them in the victims' blood, while fleeing the scene on the night of the murders.

How Long Would it Take to Make all These Wounds?

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Were these wounds self inflicted?
Were these wounds self inflicted? | Source

How do you feel?

Do you think without a reasonable doubt that Darlie is guilty?

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Injuries Authentic?

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She was a genius if she planned this one. So real looking.  Did she do this?Or this?Why would she put a planned bruise here, I wonder?Seems like a slight turn would be a clearer picture, doesn't it?
She was a genius if she planned this one. So real looking.
She was a genius if she planned this one. So real looking.
Did she do this?
Did she do this?
Or this?
Or this?
Why would she put a planned bruise here, I wonder?
Why would she put a planned bruise here, I wonder?
Seems like a slight turn would be a clearer picture, doesn't it?
Seems like a slight turn would be a clearer picture, doesn't it?
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I Believe That Darlie Deserves a New Trial

It is impossible to believe how much trouble the legal system will go to to make things turn out the way they want. She lost everything that day. She lost two children to a vicious murder, and she cannot even get back her youngest son. The evidence presented against her was circumstantial at best.

My View of Her Changed As I Got More Evidence

When I saw Darlie dancing around her children's graves, spraying silly string, laughing, and acting so happy I thought, "of course, she killed those babies." I was filled with hate, seeing her acting this way and those babies of hers, murdered and in the ground beneath her.

I can't say that I accept this behavior even now. People are different, and I know they are. It still doesn't make them guilty of murder. I really felt so guilty the more I listened, read, and learned. I am not the only one with a change of mind.

With Darlie, what I did not see was the same as what others did not see: proof. How long will our rotten, dirty judicial system keep getting by with having their say—right or wrong—and hiding information to make trials go the way they want? Why do they continually do this? What I and the jury did not see was Darlie's horrible cut and bruised black arms and hands—defensive wounds, without a doubt.

I have read many true crime books, and it seems like obscuring information and twisting it is almost a common thing. The law wants to solve a crime so quickly that some idiot decides how it happened and then makes sure it looks that way.

Here's Why I Began to Doubt This Case

There are many things missing in this case.

  • The screen that was mis-reported as being cut from the inside.
  • Possible improper read-back of testimony to the jury by the court reporter.
  • The pictures of Darlie's cuts and bruises on her arms which were taken when she was hospitalized the night of the murders.
  • The prosecution's refusal to provide access to any evidence in their custody in the case.
  • A lack of sufficient DNA testing.
  • Some writers who have interviewed Darlie Routier have decided to help her fight to get a new trial. Since reporting their opinions on her situation, they report that their ability to visit her has been blocked or made so inconvenient that little can be accomplished.
  • During the trial investigators invoked their Fifth Amendment rights against self-incrimination during cross examination, preventing the defense from rebutting their testimony. Why? This alone would be reason for disbelief and a new trial!

Video Resources, Sources, and Further Information

If you are looking for documentaries and further resources, here are some helpful videos.

  • Forensic Files Season 4 Episode 1 explores the Routier case in a more or less even-handed way, but ultimately seems to believe that she did murder her children.
  • The Last Defense is a docu-series, and the first four episodes explore the Routier case in meticulous detail.
  • Ashleigh Banfield of CNN discusses how she was there for the original trial, thought Darlie had to be guilty, and then saw a show that cast serious doubt on her guilt.
  • Darlie's case was also investigated by a show called The Investigators.
  • 20/20 ran a segment in 1999 and updated it in 2000 called "Her Own Flesh and Blood" that is a strong investigation of what was missed and glossed over.
  • Barbara Davis, the author of Precious Angels, walks through what she argues are 14 myths of the trial.

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    Brysanutt 

    117 minutes ago

    I assure you,regardless of what has been posted here,I have never posted on this Hub in any other name BUT this one. I am just not that interested in taking the effort to do so.I do things In my own real name and offer my personal phone number 937 687 8768 and email for those who wish to reach me on a personal level Brysanutt@gmail.com

    I haven't even looked at this page for about a year and I came today to take a look and I see that about 60 percent of the post here have my name in it As well as the mountain of false information that a certain Douglas and others put out about this case MY concern is that its permitted and not dealt with

    I personally feel that people have the right to believe what they want as long as they do not impose that will on others resorting to slander is an imposition.

    For the Record Darin did NOT kill his children But Darin is guilty of the cover up.... Darin did NOT sleep with all these women yall claim he has Bryan has Never one time claimed that Darin killed his kids I never believed that and never will

    I have never seeked out anyones family or their employer and never once mentioned a gun to anyone about anything

    Fact is Douglas is not a threat to anyone but herself

    He inaccurate speculations in this case speak for themselves ANYONE cn clearly see she speaks to herself in many different names IT is what IT is

    I am asking that MY Name be kept off this page PERIOD Pollyannalana I have had enough or this slander I do not and Have not bothered this page.

    I have asked that the Hub admin speak with me about what we can do to ensure that my name be removed from this page and no further slander on me be permitted

    I will see how that conversation goes before I proceed any further I feel that Polly and I can work this out without me reaching out to SoapBoxie and its admins about the content on this page

    I have simply had enough of it here..

    I have offered Jo My number and offered debate with her outside of here but she always declines because she knows I will factually outwit her without ever once losing my temper or resorting to lies slander and Insult

    JO You have my number use it...and back up what you say about me

    Polly if this keeps happening here I will do everything in my power to have this page removed and deleted

    I mean that in the nicest possible way

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    RealMForbes 

    24 hours ago

    Hi Polly. I'm really sorry these maggots keep telling lies with there fake profiles. They have no shame. Its so sad. They don't want to talk about Darlie's innocents. We all know that Darin killed those boys.

    Bryan st john threaten me with a gun. And last week Sclemons sent me a letter to my house saying he knows where i live and he would burn my house down if I keep telling the truth about Darin. These men are dangerous and the police are checking the ip address.

    I spoke to Steven Cooper yesterday to get an update on the dna testing. It seems there was new dna found on the sock and on the doorway to the bathroom. They will need several days to run the results through the Fbi data link, but praise be to God this is the break in the case we have prayed for.

    I told you all to keep Darlie in your prayers and it looks like it has payed off. Lets keep up the hard work Polly. Darlie may be home for christmas.

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    TRUEKezzy 

    3 days ago

    Yeah! right on Jo! I am so darn tired of these evil fake profiles. I am so sorry to hear about your sister. I too lost my sister Willow to a degenerative mental disease. She kept saying weirder and weirder things that nobody could make sense of. She kept acting like someone on cocaine. But the good Lord took her and may she rest.

    These maggots cant handle the truth. The research that you have done have made a difference. More and more people are looking at Darin thanks to you. Please continue to write more articles.

    Explain to people how Darin and Kee rigged the trial against Darlie. And how the dog was prevented from barking because Darin gagged and had his Satanist buddies distract him. And tell how the black car was never investigated by US Marshalls. If they had done their jobs Darlie would be home with Drake right now.

    And Perverton wood threaten me too. He said if i dont leave Darin alone he would stab me. But I will never stop telling the truth about Darin and his 11 fake CPR attempts

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    Jo Douglas 

    3 days ago from Canada

    TJeanJenkins Why don't you grow up. This isn't about getting revenge on me. This is about Darlie and proving she didn't kill those boys. You are beyond evil for the things you have said about Fern dying of cancer. You have no shame at all. Sad really that you have to resort to this type of behavior to stop people from exposing what Darin did to those boys.

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    TJeanJenkins 

    3 days ago

    These maggots come here and spread lies about me and the research that I did to make me look foolish Polly. It is so sad. But I have more formal education than most of these Darlie haters. I went to college. They attack me fern no good reason. They mock my family who died and they just tell lies.

    What they never do is talk about how Darin performed 10 fake CPRs on Damon, or how Devon was actually stabbed in the garage and then moved to the living room to throw off investigaters. Or how Darin had an affair with Jodi Cotner and then she lied on the witness stand to protect her boyfriend. Never say a word about Darin using heroine and pcp.

    Or how Byran St John threatened to rape my daughter. And Sclemons has made threatning calls to my job saying he would "get me" if I didnt keep my mouth shut.

    But i will not stop telling the truth Polly. Just look at the IP address and you can tell who these maggots are doing this.

    God Bless

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    Jo Douglas 

    3 days ago from Canada

    Polly, it is really sad that this person is using all these fake profiles to spread lies about my research. Just goes to show that they are desperate to make me look like a liar so people wont pay attention to the facts in this case. This person is desperate that they are resorting to slandering Fern, who died of cancer recently. My research is based on Darin's interviews, statements and court testimony. What these other profiles are writing on your hub are not words that came from me. So desperate that Darin and his few supporters have to resort to this kind of behavior. Shame on them. This is about Darlie and how they wronged her. They need to stop making this about me and other people who have researched Darin and the evidence.

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    RealMForbes 

    4 days ago

    Jo is right. Ever since I started telling the truth about Darin and Kee these maggots have stalked and harrased me. Good fern nothing Bryan st John even threaten me with a gun. He threaten my family with a gun. They want to keep me quiet just because I know what they did to Darlie. Polly knows that they drugged Darlie. It is all in Jackie's book. We think we have matched it to a very rare and dangerous drug called Cyndaquil, but they keep telling lies.

    Karen Neal planted the bloody sock to cover up for her lover Darin who was cheating on his wife. And poor Darlie had no idea. Well she does now. I spoke to Steven Cooper on Monday and let him know all of the tea. Cooper is about to make a major announcement in the case in the next few days. Not weeks or months. But days. So get your affaires in order Darin and Bryan St John and Sclem because you 2 will go down for harboring a murderer.

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    JustinCase976 

    4 days ago

    September 29, 2004: Westminster, CA

    Ariet Girgis is brutally stabbed to death in her home. No sign of forced entry, nothing stolen, no bloody trail of an intruder leading outside. No hairs, fibers, or other trace evidence left behind. The case goes cold.

    A decade later, on a hunch, an item from the crime scene not previously tested for DNA is finally processed and analyzed. Turns out there were TWO intruders. Case is solved and perps are sentenced in 2015.

    The moral of the story: sometimes, criminals really DON'T leave any evidence behind, or if they do, it can take years and pure blind luck before it's found. FACTS.

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    Jo Douglas 

    4 days ago from Canada

    Message to SClemmons. I guess this so called impersonator that has been posting under all these fake profiles doesn't know that we have talked and we know what he is up too. Sad that this person is so desperate to try and discredit people who have studied this case.

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    TJeanJenkins 

    4 days ago

    Wrong Octothorpe aka Bryan st John aka Slemmons. Those two black guys were known by the prosecution many years ago but they continue to bury the truth just to hurt Darlie. Those black guys were part of Darin's Satanist accomplises. They were the ones that moved the table and cleaned up the blood, and they helped Darin confuse Darlie so she would not remember what really happened. There is undenyable proof that Darin planned this out and executed it with help.

    They are also the ones that were driving the black car so fern you to say otherwise is just more lies from Darin and Kee. Why dont you explain why Darin did 8 fake Cpr attempts on Damon huh? Oh yeah that is because it proves what I have said all along.

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    Octothorpe 

    5 days ago

    Darlie was hypnotized, and changed her story (again) to say that there were two intruders: one burly black guy and one slender black guy

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    TRUEKezzy 

    11 days ago

    I'm with you Polly. Hypnotize Darlie and let the truth be known by all. Any moron high school dropout can see she is innocent. And I should know after all. She's been through so much

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    Pollyannalana 

    12 days ago from US

    I just think if Darlie was hypnotized and actually remembered what happened she could sort of find herself. She would know if Darin was not there although that does not prove he wasn't behind the whole thing. I think it may give her some fight she does not seem to have. She deserves to know and with all the defense wounds and slash to her throat she had to have been terrified and maybe why she does not remember unless she was drugged and then had her throat slashed to finish her off.(Wth only the necklace saving her.)

    She deserves so much and gets nothing. It just is not right. Her life is far from over if she could only be free.

    Darin is a real creep and I think because he is behind it all. Evil letting the mother of his children rot in jail.

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    stunning 1 

    2 weeks ago

    Getting her hypnotized is not going to get her a new trial. There needs to be some new evidence presented. I believe she deserves a new trial but there needs to show unfortunately. Those new attorneys she has need to be working n it! Just like a ploygraph hypnosis is not going to be admissible. There needs to be a technicality. She didn't receive proper representation. Not sure if they touched on that.

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    RealMForbes 

    2 weeks ago

    Maybe we can start a fund to get Darlie hypnotized. That is a GREAT idea Polly. Leave it to you to see what others cannot. My sister recently passed (rest her soul) and she left some money so I can contribute about $1,000. Who else has some bucks to save an innocent mother from Texas?

    If we get her hypnotized then she can tell the cops about Darin and how he was the one who wanted to kill the kids to satisfy his Lord and master Satan and NOT HER!! Plus she can explain how she was attacked by Darin and his cousins.

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    RealMForbes 

    2 weeks ago

    Thank you for beleiving in Darlie Justin. I was in Dallas for the march a few weeks back, but i was too shy walk up and speak to anybody. I have been shy ever since elementary school. Started around 3rd 4th or 5th grade.

    Karma is something too. I had no idea about this "coincidence". But that is God at work. There is no way a God will let a Satinist get away with murder. This is a Christian nation!

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    TRUEKezzy 

    2 weeks ago

    Please take what Jo says seriously. Nobody knows this case better than she does. The "Judge" in this case probably could not make it out of the 5th grade he was so stupid. He did nothing during the case because he slept thru half the trial. And there is proof.

    The jury never heard about the 7 fake Cpr attempts by Darin or the devil worshiping because this judge had it in for Darlie.

    Thanks Jo fern shining the light of justice once again.

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    Pollyannalana 

    2 weeks ago from US

    Thanks Justin for expanding on that. I read the book (covered her in HP by Jackie Lynnley) but it has been so long ago, still at the time I wondered why someone in Darlie's defense did not jump all over this? I honestly think Darlie does not remember being attacked but if hypnotized, she might.

    Poor Darlie, her life is eaten up with injustices!

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    JustinCase976 

    2 weeks ago

    I'm aware, Jo. The woman shot the two children before turning the gun on herself. This happened several years after Darlie's conviction.

    Bad karma certainly does seem to follow those that participated in Dallas' biggest railroad....

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    Jo Douglas 

    2 weeks ago from Canada

    Not sure if everyone knows this, but there was a women and two children slaughtered in house in Texas. It was the judges daughter and her two children. FYI, THE SAME JUDGE WHO PRESIDED OVER DARLIES CASE, JUST SAYIN

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    JustinCase976 

    3 weeks ago

    Well said, Polly! You hit the nail right on the head.

    For all the circumstantial evidence there was against Darlie, there is even stronger circumstantial evidence to indicate that someone else actually did this.

    What seals it for me, is the fact that two inmates were overheard arguing about a crime in which they had both been involved, and in which little children were stabbed with knives. Then, several months later, one of the inmates is found hanging in his cell...with his hands tied securely in front of him. The person who overheard this argument reached out to an investigator/attorney, who was able to identify the deceased inmate by name. From there, using police reports and records, the investigator was able to identify several of this man's known associates and track them down. The ex-wife of one of these associates verified that in June of 1996, her husband, the deceased inmate, and another man took a road trip to the Dallas area. When they returned, she learned that they had broken into a house they believed was empty, and it all went bad. Her ex-husband told her that a fight broke out, there were young kids in the room, and the victims were stabbed.

    Now, one could argue that this trio broke into a different house and stabbed somebody else's children; there's just one tiny little problem with that argument. According to the FBI's Crime Reporting Unit Supplemental Homicide Report for 1996, there were exactly 3 children under the age of 10 that were murdered by a knife or cutting instrument in the state of Texas. There were two white males, ages 5 and 6, reported from Rowlett; and one 9 year old white female, reported from Arlington (Amber Hagerman, the inspiration for today's Amber Alert).

    There...were...no...other...children...stabbed...in...Texas...in...1996.

    There are other details about these three men that are not known to the general public; details that indicate they were indeed in the house that night, but I am not about to share them on a public website. All I'm going to say is, if this isn't reasonable doubt, I don't know what is.

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    Pollyannalana 

    3 weeks ago from US

    Hell is also waiting for those who falsely judge and accuse people. With God, no one sin outweighs the other. Strange, the neighbor's comments I heard about said Darlie was a great mother and also good to their friends, baking them all cookies and having them around. So we believe who we choose to I guess.

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    silverdragon93 

    3 weeks ago

    even though its circumstantial...I think there is no doubt she did it...According to the book her neighbors heard her curse the boys and i think she resented them..She must not believe in Hell ..if she does not tell the truth and seek redemption before she leaves this world she will go straight to hell..is public perception worth that..i think not.Tell the truth and save your soul if you want to see your boys again..

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    Pollyannalana 

    4 weeks ago from US

    Well Justin you make me happy and sad with your news. Perhaps if the next protest was more advertised? Truthfully I only got one response asking for phone calls to be made and that was a half negative so it is discouraging, (though I do hope some may have called) but I am so proud of what you did in spite of the pitfalls.

    What did Darlie Kee have to say? Was there any hope?

    Poor, poor, Darlie. There is not a doubt in my body she is innocent and how she holds up I just have no idea.

    It is very interesting what you said about the neighbor and so close to Darlie. I think this was brought up in the Dateline; Purgatory book about Darlie. Have you read that book? It speaks of a couple of prisoner that could well have been the murderers and the one it bothered so bad killing some children. (He is dead, maybe suicide?) But the other one was living at least at this time. I don't know why things like that are not looked into more closely. There were other things that tied these two to that area, like a stolen vehicle which fit the description of a truck I think it was spotted right there.

    She needs a fund collected just to pay for information to free her and I bet she would be out of there in less than 6 months! I bet a million could be raised! That would get attention!

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    JustinCase976 

    4 weeks ago

    Hi all,

    The turnout for the rally was disappointingly small. A lot of people talked a good game, but failed to deliver when push came to shove. Of course, this delighted the Darlie haters to no end. I heard they were gleefully posting about the 6 or 7 people who came and amusing themselves with insults and memes LOL. (Simple things amuse simple people.) Truthfully, Friday was the biggest turnout with a total of about 25-30 supporters. Not everyone stayed the whole 6 hours, and at one point we were out there in the pouring rain. Darlie's mother was there on Friday, and gave a brief interview to the local CBS news, who also showed up. We had to call off the Saturday march; the forecast showed nothing but rain and thunderstorms for the entire day. We were concerned about having people standing outside with umbrellas and getting struck by lightning, but apparently, this makes us "fair weather supporters." Sunday we were right back at it, about 15 people at the most. We were laughed at, disparaged, ridiculed, and insulted, but that's irrelevant. What is relevant, is that we were HEARD. People noticed. They read our signs, some came up to us out of curiosity and accepted the flyers and other reading material we had prepared. Many people who were just driving by honked their horns and gave the thumbs up in support (we won't talk about the ones who gave us the one-fingered salute, bless their hearts LOL).

    We also had the opportunity to go to Rowlett and see the house and the neighborhood for ourselves. It was chilling to see just how low to the ground those windows actually are, and the ease with which a killer fleeing on foot could have escaped without being seen. It took us exactly six minutes to walk from the Routier house to Angel Rickels's former house on Miami Drive (you'll recall Angel is the woman who testified in the trial that two men attempted to break into her home the night of the murders).

    While the haters also talked a good game about showing up to counter protest, not a one of them actually had the balls to show their faces. Not one. As they claim to be all about JUSTICE FOR DEVON AND DAMON, it begs the question: how many of them would take time off from work and their own families, fly to Texas on their own dime, and stand outside in the pouring rain to fight for what they believe in? It's one thing to talk the talk from a keyboard, but its another thing to put your money where your mouth is. How many would take the time to make the drive to the cemetery, again in the pouring rain, and pay their respects by placing flowers, toys, and yes, SILLY STRING on the boy's headstone? That's what we did when the Saturday march was canceled, and take my word, there was no one else in sight. But, you know, we have no respect for the victims because we believe in Darlie's innocence (eye roll).

    I would do it all over again in a heartbeat, even if I was the only one standing out there. There's been talk about doing this every 6 months or so, and if another rally is organized, I'll attend that as well. I have no shame in standing up for what I believe in, and if any of those haters were ever in this position, I'd stand up for their rights, too.

    A wise man once told me: "Trust the police about as much as they trust you, because just like with any other occupation, there are good ones and there are bad ones. And it only takes one bad one to ruin a person's life." Notably, the wise man who said this also happened to be a seasoned Detective.

    #justruntheprint

    #whohasFaithinFaithJohnson?

    #whatisDallasCountyafraidof?

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    Pollyannalana 

    4 weeks ago from US

    Hope everyone remembered to call and if you didn't...hey go ahead now! Why not? Am sure it is fresh in their memory, still.

    Hope Justine will share his experience with us!

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    Pollyannalana 

    5 weeks ago from US

    You got it Justin, I plan to call all those numbers, everyone of those days. They may have us just leave a message so we need to have a good one ready!

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    JustinCase976 

    5 weeks ago

    Awww hugs to you Polly, hang in there. Don't forget to make those phones ring on Friday! We're not asking for much...we're simply asking them to utilize the IAFIS system for the purpose of which it was originally created.

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    Pollyannalana 

    5 weeks ago from US

    Feel like a nut, sorry. Having some health issues, been up in the air about and caused me temporary insanity I guess. lol

    Great... glad I did not miss it and will go again to encourage others for some input.

    Thanks for holding things together Justin! lol

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    JustinCase976 

    5 weeks ago

    It actually hasn't taken place yet; the dates are October 12th, 13th, and 14th. I'll definitely give you an update when I get back.

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    Pollyannalana 

    5 weeks ago from US

    Has anyone heard anything about whether the protest helped anything or not? Anything at all?

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    JustinCase976 

    6 weeks ago

    You are so right Cheryl--every time that woman misspoke, messed up her syntax, or struggled to express herself with the right words, she was seen as a "liar." People are so quick to judge others but we don't know all the circumstances and life events that form someone's personality. Just because someone might be considered "different" or "weird" has nothing to do with whether or not they are capable of murder. Trial by media and/or public opinion results in the harshest and most unfair judgments of all. The sad truth is that someone could broadcast a videotape of someone else committing these murders and there will still be people who will see Darlie as a cold blooded killer simply because they have believed it for so long, they can't accept any other alternative.

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    Cheryl Varner 

    6 weeks ago from Mechanicsburg

    I believe she deserves a retrial. Seems like the whole investigation was tainted because of the premise that it was an 'inside job'. Her affectation comes off wrong or not comparable to how most people behave under any circumstances, really, because of the abuse she has suffered. It is so sad to think if people are wrongfully accused and incarcerated that the real killer responsible walks away and, especially in this case, that person cannot deal with the pain of their loss in itself but having justice fail you, also. The stigma, alone, and the finger pointing even if vindicated will never go away...

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    Pollyannalana 

    6 weeks ago from US

    Cheryl - The silly string was Darlie's sister's idea and she feels really sorry for it. And it could have been why the police framed Darlie, except they saw the whole tape, not just what they had on the news and showing the jury. They saw when she was crying. So unfair.

    I am always on the law's side and appreciate law enforcement but these cops clearly formed this case the way they wanted it but took the baby from Darin at least, proving they finally knew the real killer.

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    JustinCase976 

    6 weeks ago

    Rosey...so, your belief is that this was a premeditated act in which Darin, Darlie, and an unknown 3rd party were all complicit? The 3rd person's sole purpose for being present to drop a sock with a dime sized drop of blood on it 3 houses down, because it MIGHT be found by police? And yet, Darlie never implicates this person, even when facing death row?

    Come on, Rosey. There's way too much reasonable doubt here to justify taking this woman's life. If someone else did this, Devon and Damon will never get justice. Don't you want to be SURE?

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    rosey1111 

    7 weeks ago

    There was no blood outside. So who was outside helping Darlie and or Darin. I'm talking about outside, whether it be a stranger, Darlie, Darin, there would be blood outside. Who was helping her and or him?

    And I don't mind if I'm proven wrong, but it has to be proven. And when I'm wrong, I own it. Darlie is just so good at manipulating people with her sweet little me voice. GUILTY.

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    Cheryl Varner 

    7 weeks ago from Mechanicsburg

    I think Darin did it because 1. She saw a tall man with long hair. 2. He set her up because he knew she had a prescription drug problem and hints to thoughts of suicide. 3. He drugged her so she would be oblivious to the attacks and if they did lab work, it would appear she medicated herself 4. He planted the sock to steer investigation away from himself. I do remember the silly string event said to be not her idea? But whose was it? Darin's? He did not seem to be very involved in the family and seemed to be a workaholic

    Also, criminals always seem to talk about their crimes and yet all these years, no one else has ever been implicated. Someone always knows something

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    Pollyannalana 

    7 weeks ago from US

    Rosie, why is Darlie's blood not all outside if she ran down an alley? Hardheaded people just will not see but what they want to. I at first thought Darlie guilty until I took a good look instead of just being the kind of person who can never be wrong!

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    JustinCase976 

    7 weeks ago

    Yes Rosie, the crime scene photos do show A LOT of blood. The point you seem to have missed is that those photos were taken AFTER Darlie stood up and started moving around. The blood you see in those photos is mostly hers and it was not there when the attackers fled the scene. I also believe that at least one of the attackers fled through the front door and did not go back out through the cut screen.

    "You must be Darlie's relative"--ah yes, the favorite go-to statement of every non-supporter that's getting their a$$ kicked in an argument. When are you people going to come up with some new material? I could say that you must be a relative of Greg Davis, but I happen to know that his relatives don't particularly care for him. Imagine that.

    I believe I've already mentioned that one of my parents is a homicide detective, so there's no need for me to make any calls, I can simply ask the ones that I know. And the ones I know are floored that this case even went to trial, but the general consensus among them is: only in Texas.

    "Darlie is a textbook psychopath"--is that your professional diagnosis, doctor? Because Dr. Kenneth Dekleva, the psychiatrist brought in by the STATE to examine Darlie, would have testified otherwise, which is exactly why the prosecution never called him as a witness. They also instructed him not to record any of his opinions in a written report. Dr. Lisa Clayton, the psychiatrist who examined Darlie for the defense, did testify under oath that Darlie does not meet the criteria for either a psychopath or a sociopath.

    Next?

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    rosey1111 

    8 weeks ago

    Justincase976 call any homicide department and see how many cases they have with such a bloody scene inside, and NONE outside. I think you must be Darlie's relative.

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    rosey1111 

    8 weeks ago

    From the crime scene photos, there was A LOT OF BLOOD. She said 'he' ran out. You can't run out , go through a screen and leave nothing. No way. Don't need a doctorate to figure that out, just good common sense.

    Darlie is guilty. She is a textbook psychopath.

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    Pollyannalana 

    8 weeks ago from US

    Thank you so much for those numbers Justin! I appreciate that so much. I will spread this and the numbers around as far as I can and hopefully those seeing will share it too. It is time someone listened and let that innocent mother go!

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    Pollyannalana 

    8 weeks ago from US

    RMF - I don't have a clue about devil worshiping and although Darin gives me the creeps I won't accuse anyone of wild things I know nothing about.

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    JustinCase976 

    8 weeks ago

    I wanted to share this link for those who would like a better understanding of crime scenes, fingerprinting, and AFIS

    https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/Publications/abstract.as...

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    JustinCase976 

    2 months ago

    Rosie, real crime scenes oftentimes contain little to no physical evidence. The general public has been brainwashed by shows like CSI and NCIS. On TV, there's always a plethora of evidence, the blood and DNA results are in before the first commercial break, and the bad guy is always caught, tried, and convicted. The case is solved and all wrapped up in a neat little bow by the end of the hour.

    If Darlie had been home alone that night and died from her injuries, there still wouldn't be the "evidence of intruders" that non-supporters blindly insist should be there. She would just become one of the many unsolved homicides. Don't believe me? Call the homicide department of any squad in any city and ask them how many cold cases they're sitting on.

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    rosey1111 

    2 months ago

    No it doesn't happen all the time. What happens all the time is BLOOD is spread, easily. You can't just wipe it off and run away, if you're running away, as Darlie states, you don't have time to clean your self off.

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    JustinCase976 

    2 months ago

    The Dallas PD has about eight different divisions i.e. central, south central, northeast, etc. It looks like Central Dallas is the closest division to the Frank Crowley Courts Building, where we will be marching. The number is 214-670-4413.

    The Dallas County Sheriff's office is actually located in the building itself. Their number is 214-653-3450.

    Dallas County DA Faith Johnson's office is also located in the building. The number is 214-653-3600.

    Make those phones ring off the hook, ladies!

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    Pollyannalana 

    2 months ago from US

    I just had an idea. Is there a number ones who cannot go could call? Drive them crazy with phone calls, maybe two or three numbers at the police near this protest? Or wherever appropriate. Doesn't that seem a good idea?

    It might make them bothered more than by the protest. I would sure do it and get the numbers around to hundreds online.

    Make a loud noise altogether!

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    Pollyannalana 

    2 months ago from US

    Thank you!!!

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    JustinCase976 

    2 months ago

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    Pollyannalana 

    2 months ago from US

    Justin - No I have heard nothing about that! That is so thrilling to hear. I bet Darlie is excited about it too.

    No I will not be able to be there but I would love to and will be getting in on keeping touch with this happening as closely as I can.

    Please share the experience with us when you get back!

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    JustinCase976 

    2 months ago

    The TV was on in the room; he could see and recognize his mother.

    "All that blood" came mostly from Darlie and was shed after she stood up and began moving around, after the intruders had left. A common misconception is that the killers would have tracked blood throughout the house and outside, but that's simply not the case. The boys' bleeding was more internal than external. Even one of the state's expert witnesses conceded that an intruder would not necessarily have been particularly bloody.

    It is possible for a person or persons to exit through the screen without leaving trace evidence. It happens all the time; that's why investigators have so many cold cases. Sometimes there's just nothing to work with.

    Darlie's bloody footprints were indeed everywhere, including in front of the sink. Please check your facts again.

    Again, the sock was not planted. Refer to above re tracking blood.

    Darin & the glass: I've already addressed this in a previous comment.

    Are you telling us that with one child dead and the other dying, you'd waste precious seconds running upstairs to see for yourself that the baby was okay? She knew Darin had been upstairs in the same room with Drake. It was a safe assumption that he was unharmed just as Darin was, so yes, top priority was to get an ambulance there. And for the record, as soon as she ended the call with 911, the first thing she did was ask about Drake.

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    rosey1111 

    2 months ago

    If the house was dark, he wouldn't know who it was.

    I actually think it is 3 people

    Darlie

    Darin and another person. With all that blood, blood would've been found outside.

    No way anyone could go out the cut screen without leaving something

    If you're running out of the house, through the screen, you are going to leave evidence

    And her footprints that showed up with the luminol, were her footprints anywhere else besides the kitchen sink

    So, the question is, how was the sock planted? Anyone inside the house would have left some type of blood reroute to plant the sock.

    Was Darin outside? Because no way he heard a glass break from upstairs. That is just an excuse as to why he awakened

    I know if my 2 sons were stabbed, I'd immediately be thinking of my 3rd, mother's instinct, and would have run up the stairs, because I'd want to know what happened to my baby

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    JustinCase976 

    2 months ago

    Agreed Polly, he wouldn't have gone anywhere near her if she was the one who hurt him.

    Have you heard about the march/protest that's being held in front of the Frank Crowley Building in Dallas? The march will be held on October 12th-14th and the purpose is to urge the authorities to finally upload unidentified fingerprint 85j into IAFIS in the hopes of finding a match. The more bodies present, the better for Darlie. I just booked my flight; I hope you will be able to make it.

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    Pollyannalana 

    2 months ago from US

    My main point here is to people who think Darlie stabbed them. He would not be seeking help from her if she had hurt him I am sure but I have read or heard nowhere that he sought help from his father.

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    JustinCase976 

    2 months ago

    Polly, I'm not trying to be argumentative, but I do believe that Darin and Darlie concentrated mainly on Devon since he was not breathing. Damon had been injured in his back; they may have been worried about spinal injuries if they moved him in any way. He was breathing on his own, so there was no point to doing CPR on him. In that situation, I feel that Devon would be their main focus. Darin was desperately trying to get oxygen flowing in his lifeless body so that he would not suffer brain damage, had he lived. In the meantime, I think they were both just praying Damon could hold on long enough for the paramedics to get there. As a parent, I'm sure it was an agonizing decision, but if I were in that position, I think I would have done the same.

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    Pollyannalana 

    2 months ago from US

    I think a very important thing to look at is that one little boy who was calling for his mother's help. He saw who stabbed him I am sure since he lived to walk around and come for his mother and that would never be if she had stabbed him. Wonder if he ever goes toward his dad who seems to be so desperately avoiding helping him?

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    Pollyannalana 

    2 months ago from US

    True Justin or Darin may have ran out to dispose of it and missed the drain.

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    Pollyannalana 

    2 months ago from US

    rosey - If I am not mistaken there was blood of one of the boys on the sock which made it virtually impossible for her to have stabbed him before taking a lone sock down the alley because of the time frame of all it would take to poke and stab herself in so many places and slice her throat in such a precise way as to miss dying by a fraction of an inch. It was estimated I believe for a ten minute time frame for all of that to happen.

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    JustinCase976 

    2 months ago

    There were three intruders to start with, but when they realized people were in the house and the attack started, one of them took off in their vehicle and left the other two behind. This is why two men were spotted by Darlene Potter between two and three in the morning, walking down Dalrock road (one of them in his bare feet). The first guy brought a knife with him; it was his trusty old hunting knife and he never went without it. He's the one who cut the screen and stabbed Devon. The second guy went for the kitchen butcher knife as soon as he realized there were people in the house. He's the one who attacked Darlie and Damon. Two different men, two different knives. This was not random either; these men were sent there with the understanding that no one would be home. The Routiers were actually scheduled to fly out to Altoona the following week.

    What about the 911 call does not make sense? I'm not being facetious either, I'm genuinely curious.

    Rosey, I think you can tell from my comments that I am an educated, intelligent person. I did not just make this scenario up out of thin air; I have studied this case in great depth with a logical and analytical mind. I did not come to this conclusion overnight.

    As for the glass breaking, I really don't think Darin heard that at all. I think he THINKS he remembers it, which does not make him a liar. That kind of thing is actually pretty common. I don't know if you've ever studied psychology, but the subconscious is fascinating and powerful.

    I will always believe she is innocent. This belief doesn't have so much to do with her personally as it does the fact that I believe, with good reason, that a trio of lowlifes broke into that house in June of 1996 and murdered two little boys. I'm also the child of a homicide detective and a forensic psychiatrist (terrifying, I know), so please take into consideration that I DO know a little something.

    PS: I agree with you 100% about Diane Downs.

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    rosey1111 

    2 months ago

    Right, and why didn't she get stabbed in the same manner as the kids. Self-inflicted. Of course it had to be at night, she couldn't run and drop the sock in the daylight, too many people up and around. And we're supposed to believe a murderer just happened to drop his sock. Listen to the 911 call. Makes no sense. Hey no one said she was brilliant. Oh and if she couldn't stab 2 kids at once, why would an intruder try to do so. So why are there 2 different versions of the glass breaking. Because LIARS can't keep their stories straight. Sorry but her story is so full of bs, so glad the jury saw right through her. Too many variables? She probably thought it would be easy. She sure didn't drop any of her blood on the sofa, where she supposedly was attacked. Guilty Guilty Guilty let her rot in jail like Diane Downs

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    JustinCase976 

    2 months ago

    Pre-meditated, huh? In the middle of the night, with Darin right upstairs? That's a brilliant plan. What if the baby woke up and he had to come downstairs and warm up a bottle? She can't stab 2 people at once; what if one of the kids had woken up and made it upstairs? There's too many variables that could have gone wrong for any of this to be premeditated. And I'm supposed to believe that she purposely spilled blood on that white carpet? Get a clue.

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    rosey1111 

    2 months ago

    And Darlie has fooled all of her supporters. Guilty Guilty Guilty. Oh yes, so dazed to follow a stranger. Give me a break. Oh yeah let me pick up a bloody knife, oh yeah. Nobody would pick up a bloody knife. You'd be screaming seeing a bloody knife. Pre-meditated murder

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    JustinCase976 

    2 months ago

    When Darlie first got off the couch and followed after the man, she wasn't waking from sleep, she was regaining consciousness. She would have been dazed, groggy, and not quite sure if she was dreaming or not. Following after him would have been subconscious and automatic, since she had no sense of danger at that moment (hey, who are you? where are you going? what's going on?). It's the same thing with regard to picking up the knife (what the?...this doesn't belong here). Even once she turned on the lights, she may have been frozen in shock for a few seconds while trying to process the fact that her kids were hurt and covered with blood, and she was covered in blood, and oh my God there was a man, and a knife, and he...DARIN!!!!

    It's fine for you to tell me what you think YOU would do in that situation, but you can't say what Darlie would or would not have done, because you're not her and you were not there.

    Non-supporters always vacillate between the idea of Darlie being a criminal mastermind, and her being dumb AF. She's going to take this sock, dabbed with just a smidge of blood, run 75 yards in her bare feet (or even more ludicrous, in Darin's sneakers), run back to the house (all the while risking being seen by Bill Gorsuch across the street, who usually gets home around 2am.) So, now she's planted this sock, which by the way, there is no guarantee will either be found by police or linked to the crime scene. And not once did she ever mention the word sock. Never says, "he had this sock on his hand" or "he put a sock over my mouth." But yet, somehow, her IQ magically jumps up a good 25 points momentarily and suddenly she's sophisticated enough to think of stabbing herself in her dominant arm, all the way to the bone, and slices her throat with her non-dominant hand, miraculously missing her carotid artery by 2mm? Nope, nope, nope. No way Jose.

    Darlie may not be able to fool you, but the prosecution sure did.

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    rosey1111 

    2 months ago

    The 'logical' reason for Darlie to plant a sock, to make it look as if someone else dropped a sock running away. Yes, not very good thinking, but as I said, NONE of her blood was on it. She hadn't cut herself yet. She started screaming her blood-curdling scream AFTER she cut herself. Give me a logical explanation why she didn't yell for her husband FIRST thing, ESPECIALLY not knowing how her baby was. Mother's instinct, you'd be running upstairs to your baby. Call 911, not walk after a murderer. She can't fool me

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    Lameduck1 

    2 months ago

    If the crown is so certain that Darlie is guilty the get the execution over. They aren't only playing with Darlie's mind, she has a family and a Son who has not had personal contact with his Mom since he was 8 months old. Something wonky went on in that house that night and I think Darin was involved.

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    JustinCase976 

    2 months ago

    Still waiting for one person, anyone, who can offer a LOGICAL reason for Darlie to "plant" that sock...

    The sock was not planted. It fell out of his pocket as he was running away.

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    rosey1111 

    2 months ago

    Guilty Guilty Guilty

    She didn't scream for her husband right away.

    She planted the sock and cut herself after the fact

    She isn't consistent with her statements. And who would pick up the knife. No Way. Guilty Guilty Guilty

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    Pollyannalana 

    2 months ago from US

    Meggagirl - I suppose he wanted to get on with his life and remarry, which I believe he has.

    Why they did not immediately suspect him beats me. Perhaps he dropped little comments to make them suspect her and by the time they saw they were duped it was too late and they did not want to look stupid.

    She should get a new trial simply on the way they portrayed her to a group of people they especially chose that would charge her with murder simply because they thought she was a low life.

    That is a ploy often used and should not be allowed. In an upstanding court, it would not.

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    Meggagirl 

    2 months ago

    I believe she is innocent she desreves a new trail they did not prove she did it. They never looked into the father and why did they get divorced if darin said she did not do it then why is he getting a divorce from her and not standing by her why did they get divorced

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    Pollyannalana 

    2 months ago from US

    James, I agree Darlie is innocent but Darin? Maybe he did not actual do the killing but what do the police know on him to take his only living son from him and he doesn't even protest? They know the truth now but it would cost them too much, but if they left his son with him knowing he was the murderer, well how much more would that cost them? There are a few there who know the truth after they railroaded Darlie...surely now more than one has shared that truth. It will come out one day, even if too late for Darlie.

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    Pollyannalana 

    2 months ago from US

    lafoxy-that could have meant suicide and really, what a plan stabbing and cutting herself, then managing to slit her throat within an inch of her life and running down an alley to take one sock...who can honestly believe this crap? What did she have to gain? What did Darin have to gain? Helloooo

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    lafoxy 

    2 months ago

    At the end of the show, the prosecutors showed her diary entry dated a day before the murders. "Dear Lord forgive me for what I'm about to do" - that is a confession in my books. Guilty as charged.

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    James R Finchum 

    2 months ago

    First, I have researched this case beginning right after Darlie's cinviction. Secondly, TJean Jenkins is absurdly flawed in her post. Darin was not in the basement of the house when this occurred.

    Darin was asleep upstairs in the bed with their infant. Darlie met him at the base of the stairs when he ran downstairs after she screamed.

    Darin had nothing to do with his son's death. Also a mens athletic sock was found 75 yards away from the Routier home in the alley with Devon's blood on it. This piece of evidence was said to have been planted by Darlie. In order for her to have done this, she would have had to run 75 yards down to place it, then 75 yards back. Thats a football field and a half.

    This woman is innoncent and needs to be given a FAIR trial.

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    TJeanJenkins 

    2 months ago

    I agree with you Polly. Except I never doubted Darlie. My sister and I knew write away that Darin committed this crime. It is all over his face. He even looks like a heroine junkie who worships Satan.

    When Steven Cooper told me last week that Darin had failed 5 lie detector tests and 3 drug tests it just proved what I knew this whole time. It also explains why he did 8 fake CPRs on Damon after he came upstairs from the basement.

    God Bless you Polly

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    Pollyannalana 

    2 months ago from US

    Deb, same here, I was sure she was guilty from the news broadcasts about her and the silly string video. Then I found out about the other grave site video where you could see how destraught she was and then I saw her and Darin talking about their boys and it was day and night. She was full of love, he was full of something but it was not love, it disgusted me, so cold. I knew then she did not hurt her boys and although I did not at that time suspect him of the murder I certainly do now.

    He did it for the insurance money on her and perhaps he did not intend for the boys to die but they woke when whatever drug was put across Darlie's face did not prevent a struggle beforehand causing all her injuries and waking them.

    How he lives with himself I just have no idea but you can see and feel the evil in him...well I can. It is sickening.

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    Deb McDonald 

    2 months ago

    In the beginning I thought she was guilty. I have seen several documentaries on this case. The jury did not see the pictures of her injuries. As for the silly string video......It did not show that Darlie and her family had a memorial service beforehand. I am a big fan of The First 48. I have seen several people use silly string at their loved ones grave.

    Also, there were fingerprints that did not belong to family or friends on the glass coffee table.

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    JustinCase976 

    2 months ago

    Does anyone else find it interesting that after putting Darlie on death row, prosecutor Toby Shook opened a criminal defense law firm and one of his partners was Doug Mulder's son? Makes you wonder just how tight Toby and Doug were during the trial.

    Just some good ole boys/never meanin no harm...

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    TRUEKezzy 

    2 months ago

    Thank you for letting me know and nice to hear you are doing ok Polly. These maggots have really made a mess of things. I hope you have a good time with your company. Darin and his evil Satanist religion are going to be exposed very soon thanks to people like us.

    God Bless

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    Pollyannalana 

    2 months ago from US

    Mrsdoubt - You have a right to your opinion but anyone putting rhyme or reason on paper I see no reason they would not point to the one with the most...or anything to gain, and that was Darin. Not Darlie and I am sure the this police department has been aware of that for some time. If Darlie Kee and Darin had not run around making a farce of the whole thing, Darlie may could have been helped by now. I have a hard time understanding why no one has even really tried, there is no solid evidence against her and it is an impossible plot they say she maneuvered with all she had to do in such a limited time and if her lawyer had of pushed and made more of that the jury would have seen she was not guilty of this...just because she went to a strip club. Prosecutors can do a good job picking juries and these did for sure getting Darlie life and maybe death for having low morals. They sure didn't mind casting the first stone and apparently have no trouble living with themselves.

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    Pollyannalana 

    2 months ago from US

    Sorry Jo, I really have had no time for anything and it may stay that way at least through the weekend since I have company. Will get back as soon as I can and hopefully with more time.

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    RealMForbes 

    2 months ago

    Polly, I would like to apologize to you for these maggots with fake profiles affecting this article with the nonsense. I am smarter than these people. My education puts me in a position to explain what really happened and Darin and Kee have been attacking me ever since.

    But I did speak with Steven Cooper recently about this case. He told me once again that Darin is under direct suspicion based on the evidence that I gave him, and the drugs that he gave Darlie. We need to stand strong and continue to put pressure on the state of Texas to do the right thing. More and more people are reading my articles and your articles.

    We can do this Polly!

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    Jo Douglas 

    2 months ago from Canada

    Hi Polly, I hope your doing good. I miss talking to you. Please don't give up on your article. I am sorry my issues with these stalkers affected your article. I hope to talk to you soon my friend.

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    stunning 1 

    2 months ago

    Angie totally agree. As for Mrsdoubt You're he the brightest crayon in the box. If Darin lied that's PERJURY. Good god! I'm going to enjoy what the night had left..

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    Mrsdoubt 

    2 months ago

    You're wasting your time with the letters and petition. President Trump can only pardon Federal inmates not baby killers who are on DR and he's a family man so he wouldn't do anything for Darlie.

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    Mrsdoubt 

    2 months ago

    The only "new trial" Darlie is ever going to get is to be tried for Devon's murder so be careful what you wish for.

    Darin is never going to be arrested because it was Darlie who murdered the children and not him. But you keep on trashing him and be prepared to answer his lawsuit for defamation of character. Keep it up and you will force him to tell what he knows--that Darlie murdered the kids and he lied to cover for her

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    JustinCase976 

    3 months ago

    OMG...I guess I didn't get it, but I do now. I have officially entered the twilight zone.

    ***slowly backing away...***

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    RealMForbes 

    3 months ago

    WHY SHOULD DARIN ROUTIER BE INVESTIGATED AND CONSIDERED A SUSPECT IN THE MURDER OF DEVON AND DAMON ROUTIER?

    1. Darin made changes to his insurance after he beat her.

    2. Darin was sleeping with Jodi Cotner, Karen Neal, Dana and others

    3. Darin lied about his car not working.

    4. Darin is a Satinist

    5. Darin failed 14 poly tests.

    6. Darin lied about being in the basement b4 Darlie dialed 911.

    7. Darin lied when he said he did not know Karen Neal (His secret lover) planted the sock.

    8. Darin lied about Drake being in the room with the dog

    9. Darin lied about not liking his aunt Sandy.

    10. Darin lied about being the one who wore her panties. Pervert!.

    11. Darin lied about shaking Waddell's hand.

    12. Darin lied about the table being from IKEA.

    13. Darlie lied to police about the crystal meth he was selling and using before the attack.

    14. Darin lied about painting the gate.

    15. Darin lied to Davis about the window being a gift from Aunt Sandy.

    16, Darin lied about sleeping in the nude.

    17. Darin lied about going to the medic van and asking about Drake's diaper

    18. Darin lied when he said Darlie had no pulse and that was the reason he didnt help her.

    19. Darin lied about only doing cpr on Devon once. He did 14 CPRs on Damon

    20. Darin has never admitted to being a Satanist pedofile.

    21. Darin lied about Darlie being 5 foot 9 inches when he came out of his room.

    22. Darin lied about not knowing Darlie was Jewish at birth.

    23. Darin lied about parking his car on the street to make it safer for old ladies walking the block.

    24. Darin was never investigated by the Secret Service for tax fraud.

    25. Police found cocaine, crystal meth, herion, weed, ludes, acid, shrooms, PCP, and crack in Darins bedroom during the search.

    26. Darin was never drug tested in Florida

    27. Darins bloody jeans were found in the black sedan 3 days later

    28 Darin couldnt be excluded from the DNA on the cap found at the Walmart.

    29. Darin didnt dispute the insurance company when they refused to pay unless he signed over custody of Drake.

    30. Darin buried his boys with Backstreet Boys posters and GI Joe toys

    31. Darin picked a violin player instead of a traditional pianist for his sons funeral.

    32. Darin showed signs of being sexually obsessed with Jodi Cotner

    33. Darin made sickening jokes about Greg Davis's wife.

    34. The first phone call Darin made was to his mother to tell her about the tragedy.

    35. Darin had killed before.

    36. Darin tried to deny the sock in the alley was a size 9.

    37, Blood was found by his urine sample in the garage.

    38. Darin could have gotten to and from the bathroom to his bedroom without Devon seeing him.

    39. Darin couldnt be excluded from the finger print in blood on the doorway to the Jeep Cherokee

    40. Darin fit the description Darlie gave to match.com when she was looking for a boyfriend.

    41. Darin kept changing his story about who's name Darlie screamed out, first it was Drake and then it was Kee

    42. Darin locked the cat up earlier the night before the attack.

    43. Darin lied about the dog being sick with the flu because he knew the intruder.

    44. Darin lied about Darlie asking him for a a new car hours before the attack.

    45. Darin washed up and kissed his girlfriend Karen Neal while he was destroying evidence while his family was dead and dying.

    46. Darin told a cps worker the boys got in the way of his soap opera TV time.

    47. Darin moved in with Darlie Kee and continued to live with her even after the arrest.

    48. Darin promised to make Barbara Jovell his new wife, but changed his mind after the murders.

    49. The night before the attack Darin admitted he was in the garage painting.

    50. Darin was turned down for a $5,000,000 dollar loan just before the attack, he lied by saying the loan was for Dana to get a new car.

    51. Darin was broke yet he hired his employees brother to come in just two days before the attack to help Darlie with the house and kids, and she just happen to witness this pink car Darin and Jovell had been staging.

    52. Darin parked his car on the street after he came back from Jodi Cotner trying to make it appear nobody was home.

    53. Darin was the one who brought up the shards of glass in the ice show.

    54. Darin was broke yet her hired Karen to work with him at the shop giving him alone time with her.

    55. Darin just happen to take Darlie's car to work leaving her stranded with no vehicle so she couldnt check up on him and Jodi Cotner.

    56. Darin lied about Darlie planning to take a trip to Moscow.

    57. Darin lied about the family vacaction he was planning for the 31st of November, he was broke and didnt have the money to go.

    58. Darin was losing everything and now he was looking at paying support for 14 other people on top of supporting himself.

    59. Shortly after Darlie was arrested Darin did an interview where he said he was tired of reporters askiing him to help Drake, he wanted to write a book and tell his side of the story.

    60. Darin moved in with a 15 year old girl he cheated on Darlie with.

    61. Darin lied to police about what woke him up when the house caught fire earlier that year.

    62, Darin has continued to change his hairstyle over the years.

    63 Darin contracted HIV and cancer, where Darlie didnt

    64 Darin gave Darlie a glass of milk right before she went to bed that night, she became tired right after and only one glass was broken and the glass she drank from that night was never shown in any of the pics.

    65. Darin lied in the last interview claiming he had been searching for the orange car weeks after the murders, knowing he set that car up with Sarah Jackson.

    66. Darin changed his appearance right before he was to tesify, he cut off his eyelashes so his description didnt fit the description of the intruder.

    67. Darin noticed Darlies missing panties and then made up the possible rape and intruder theory to the media.

    68. Right after Darin returned to the house after leaving when Waddell got there, he never released the dog from the basement.

    69. At 2:35am officer Walling came in and he said Darin was just standing in the living room, but he was red face and out of breath, as though he had been running, further proving Waddell was telling the truth when he said Darin left the home.

    70. Darin ran over to karens at 2:40am, screaming and yelling putting on a show that he was desperate for help when he knew police and medics were already there on the scene. Karen herself was sexually turned on by Darins behavior.

    71. There is not one shred of evidence to prove Darin did anything to try and sell the house.

    71. Darin used Devons dead body to decieve the officer into believing he was trying to save his family. Darin knew Devon died seconds into the 911 call, he knew Devon was gone when he did that 14th cpr on Devon almost an hour later when Waddell arrived.

    71. Darin lied about not knowing Damon was hurt, he lied about Damon having no pulse, and he lied about his cpr training teaching him not to turn Damon over after he claimed he had no pulse.

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    Angie-St 

    3 months ago

    I told you stunning1 and Polly. This Kezzy-Jo Douglas person is not all there upstairs mentally. Multiple personality disorder and schizophrenia. She creates these different profiles and then will have an entire conversation with him/herself for YEARS debating nonsense. Cocaine, crystal meth, Darlie Kee selling her own daughter out, pokemon drugs, racist attacks, 20 fake cpr, Darin devil worship etc etc etc.

    The pokemon thing is not even new. Jo Douglas said there was a new specialist examining the Dna named Professor Oak. I looked him up and its another pokemon character. This isnt funny. Two children were murdered.

    I think Darlie is innocent personally, but Kezzy/Jo Douglas/Jean Jenkins/Mforbes/...... Frankly make us all look like morons with only a 4th grade education with these crazy theories. There is no drugs or multiple CPRs in the case. And Darin was not having an affair with sisters, neighbors, and nurses.

    Block Jo Douglas and all these crazy mirror profiles Polly. How can I prove to you that Kezzy and Jo are the same person doing this?

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    stunning 1 

    3 months ago

    I'm not going to waste my time here anymore if these trolls are left to comment.They are talking about Pokemon and Crystal meth and Poly you know about the case and they are just trolling you....

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    stunning 1 

    3 months ago

    Polly. Please delete this Kezzy. The drug and the state they are referring to are POKEMON. Good god. This person is a troll and needs to be deleted..

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    Jo Douglas 

    3 months ago from Canada

    RealMForbes JUST STOP ALREADY WITH THE FAKE PROFILES. WHY DONT YOU SHOW SOME RESPECT FOR POLLY? SAD THAT I HAVE BLOCKED YOU EVERYWHERE AND THE ONLY PLACE YOU HAVE LEFT TO STALK ME IS HERE ON HUBPAGES. YOU HAVE SOME VERY SICK OBSESSIONS.

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    RealMForbes 

    3 months ago

    Jo Douglas, you have done so much to help Darlie. Please continue to help by writing ON TOPIC comments about the case. Polly has asked us to be positive and do what we can to help free Darlie.

    You also missed a few fake CPR attempts. You got the first 2. But here are a few more.

    -after he pulled the table off of Devon, he went over to Damon and performed CPR

    - after he hid Darlie's panty, he then went back and did another fake cpr on Damon

    -at some point he went back upstairs to put on pants. When he came downstairs again he did a fake cpr on Devon

    -the was crystal meth found in the garage. While Darlie was getting towels for officer Waddell, Darin snuck into the garage and took a hit of crystal meth. He then performed cpr on Damon to cover up his drug use.

    -after darin went to Karen's house (his secret lover) she was worried he might look guilty. She told him to make sure to perform cpr on Devon as soon as he gets back to the house. And he did.(This is also when Karen planted the sock in the alley)

    -when more police arrived Darin made sure to shove his pedofile tongue down Damons thrust l throat one more time.

    -Darlie herself said Darin did a cpr attempt on Damon right after he cleaned blood from kitchen sink. A lot of people think SHE cleaned the sink, but it was Darin trying to make Darlie look guilty.

    There are a few more fake CPR attempts that Darin made, but you get the idea. It is hard to get a complete record because Darlie was under the influence of the drug Cyndaquil. She can't remember it well.

    This has all been layed out and is under review by the court. Darin is going to be arrested before August is out MARK MY WORDS.

    Kezzy, I am sorry to hear about your cousin Willow. I am sure she did great things even tho she never graduated high school or went to college. Dont let these attacks from some dampen your spirit. It is hard fern some of us to get over the loss of a loved one. But it will get easier.

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    Jo Douglas 

    3 months ago from Canada

    TRUEKezzy Polly has asked you to stop with the fake profiles names. You have no respect for Polly or this article. You are willing to do anything you can to try and discredit supporters to Darlie. You are lying about statements made by me and others regarding the number of cpr attempts Darin faked on his son Devon. He did two, one at 15 seconds into the 911 call, and the second one three minutes and 45 seconds after Waddell arrived. Those are the facts so stop the lies and mocking supporters. And stop using other peoples profile names, it is disrespectful and childish

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    TRUEKezzy 

    3 months ago

    I would like to thank you Polly. Enough is enough with these fake profiles coming in and causing trouble.

    I wanted to say that Darlie is well aware of all of the work that is being done online getting the truth out about Darin. She has told Steven Cooper that she has read these new evidences from many of the articles are producing. And her defense team is looking hard into the 7 CPR attempts on Damon. Plus Darlie's dog and his barking is of serious concern for her appeal in court.

    Thank you Polly.

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    Pollyannalana 

    3 months ago from US

    Thanks everyone. Let's please start over and quit the bickering and just concentrate on new fact or ideas that can be used to free Darlie. Anything knocking each other or over the hill looney tunes will just be deleted whether you think it is fair or not, I want this an open discussion people will want to read and come in not feeling threatened by fighting and feuding so that is just how it is going to be and no use going back bringing up anything about he said she said.

    Clean slate, starting now. Freeing Darlie the ONLY objective.

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    TRUEKezzy 

    3 months ago

    I would like to share something personal Polly. I recently lost a member of my family. A cousin. Her name was Willow, like a willow tree. We were very very very close. She was like the sister I never had.

    Willow had a tough life. She never went to college or even high school. But she was my best friend. We lost Willow last year to a rare kidney disease. Anyway she also married an evil man just like Darlie Routier did.

    I saw my dear sweet Willow suffer physical and metal abuse by this "man". And so when I see Darlie being attacked by that evil Darin I get so frustrated. That is why I care so much about justice for Darlie. Despite the haters and maggots that attack me for telling the truth about Darin.

    But thank God that there are people like you in the world Polly. You have always been there to make sure justice is served.

    God bless you Polly.

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    TRUEKezzy 

    3 months ago

    JustinCase you just don't get it do you?. Darin is a satinist. All of the evidence is right there for anyone with a 4th grade IQ to see. The dog is the key to this whole case. Once we can identify that Karen Neal lied on the witness stand to protect her secret love affair with Darin, then we can show a new jury that the dog is actually a silent witness to this crime.

    And we need to get a confession out of Darin too. If we can get him to give up the names of his Satinist friends who helped kill the children, then we can get all of the pieces of this puzzle to fall in line.

    I swear these good fern nothing maggots will never stop covering for Darin's lies.

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    Jo Douglas 

    3 months ago from Canada

    TJeanJenkins Polly has been police and asked you to stop with the fake profiles and lies. Darin was not referred to as a satinist by anyone but you. You have come here over and over posting lies and stories that you knew were not true. Stop already. You are making a mockery of this article and this case. Its really none of your business about a persons profile or how many they use as long as they are giving the same truth. You are trying distort the facts of this case by mocking and lying about previous posts.. WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM, MAYBE SCARED THAT PEOPLE ARE FINALLY REALLIZING WHAT DARIN DID? PARDO KNEW AND HE TRIED TO TELL DARIN WAS GUILTY AND SHE SNAPPED. DARIN KEPT THE TRUTH FROM DARLIE FOR MANY YEARS, NOW THAT HE IS OUT OF THE PICTURE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO SHOW HER THE TRUTH.

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    TJeanJenkins 

    3 months ago

    Darlie is innocent. And while some people play childish games with fake profiles, I am going to speak the truth about Darin. Jo Douglas wrote 4 brilliant articles about the facts in this case. But these maggots won't talk about the truth. They just play childish games with fake profiles.

    How long before everybody sees that Darin is a Satinist? How many articles proving his evil must Jo write before they give Darlie a new trial?

    Darin and his lover Jodi Cotner set this whole thing up. At trial they wanted insurance in case Doug Mulder was able to mount a good defense. This was a conspiracy to make the nurses tell lies on the stand.

    Will you all please look at the evidence and stop paying attention to the games being played by Bryan st John, Sclemmons, and Perverton Wood. Jo Douglas is the real deal. All the others are fakes Polly.

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