Darlie Routier: Over Twenty Years on Death Row

Updated on July 3, 2018
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Polly is far from politically correct when it comes to justice. Truth means more to her than making fans by saying what they want to hear!

Who Was Darlie Routier, and What Did She Do?

Darlie Routier (pronounced "rue-tier") is an American woman who lived in Rowlett, Texas, who was accused and convicted of murdering her five-year-old son Damon. Her six-year-old Devon also died that night; however, she was not tried for his murder. The text from her indictment reads: "the Defendant, on or about the 6th day of June, A. D., 1996, in the County of Dallas, and said State did unlawfully, then and there, intentionally and knowingly cause the death of Damon Christian Routier, an individual, hereinafter called the deceased, by stabbing said Damon Christian Routier with a knife".

Darlie had no history of mental illness. She was not abusive to her sons. And her youngest son, seven-month-old Drake, and husband Darin were unharmed. There seems to be conflicting evidence, such as the police suggesting that Darlie's wounds were self-inflicted and Darlie claiming that a man attacked her and her sons.

Some say there is more to this trial than the official investigation showed.

Let's take a look.

These three children were Darlie's only claim to financial gain as anyone knows. Worth much more to her alive than dead if that was her purpose.
These three children were Darlie's only claim to financial gain as anyone knows. Worth much more to her alive than dead if that was her purpose. | Source

Before the Murders

Darlie moved to Lubbock as a teenager with her mom and stepdad. She met Darin in a Western Sizzlin' where her mother worked and where Darin was a cook. He was 17, and she was 15. They married four years later.

After moving to the Dallas area, he began his own small company called Testnec that tested electronic components. When he became a success in the early nineties, they bought a nice house and spent thousands getting it just how they wanted. Darin bought a thirty-foot cabin cruiser and a 1982 Jaguar. They went a little wild with their money, and Darlie bought new boobs and flashy jewelry.

The neighbors never saw them as wild though. Four of her friends attested that she was an excellent mother and a kind, warm, fun-loving person. She often had the neighborhood kids over and baked cookies for them. Those kids stood up for her against the accusation that she killed her sons.

All of a sudden, their business went downhill, and they allegedly got behind on their bills. They supposedly owed $10,000 in back taxes and $12,000 on credit cards, which isn't an especially noteworthy amount of debt for a newly married couple who just bought a house.

There was a very brief entry in Darlie's diary that was about suicide. My doctor once asked me if I had ever thought about suicide, and my answer was, "Hasn't everyone?" He laughed because it was true. Maybe to different extents, but if you know the world, you have thought about it. If you have something you just think you can't face, you may think about suicide. So I consider that pretty normal and nothing to even consider in anyone's sanity.

Thirty is coming up, and to some in their twenties, that looks old! It is nothing serious, but a little something as I say—and combined with all else going on with her—she probably was suffering from slight depression, which seems normal everything considered. And that does not a murderer make.

Damon and Devon Routier
Damon and Devon Routier | Source

Let's Examine the Evidence

How Long Would it Take to Make all These Wounds?

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Were these wounds self inflicted?
Were these wounds self inflicted? | Source

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Injuries Authentic?

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She was a genius if she planned this one. So real looking.  Did she do this?Or this?Why would she put a planned bruise here, I wonder?Seems like a slight turn would be a clearer picture, doesn't it?
She was a genius if she planned this one. So real looking.
She was a genius if she planned this one. So real looking.
Did she do this?
Did she do this?
Or this?
Or this?
Why would she put a planned bruise here, I wonder?
Why would she put a planned bruise here, I wonder?
Seems like a slight turn would be a clearer picture, doesn't it?
Seems like a slight turn would be a clearer picture, doesn't it?
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One-sided Testimonies

There were many bad testimonies from people making Darlie look bad. There were no testimonies of the people who saw her much differently. Darin and Ms. Kee claim Darlie's trial mocked the judicial system. Evidence that would have cleared her was never presented, witnesses who could have contradicted the prosecution's assertions never testified, forensics testing was botched, and depositions were distorted.

Unidentified Fingerprints

Forensic fingerprint tests done after Darlie's trial still show that she is innocent of the crime for which she was convicted. A bloody fingerprint taken from her living room coffee table did not belong to anyone living in her home, and two more fingerprints in the utility room and door leading to the garage in which Darlie thinks the murderer escaped the Darin's home after attacking her and her two sons. No matter, repeated requests, the Court will not grant the evidential hearing necessary to investigate and evaluate this evidence.

Taken from the utility room door is a patent bloody fingerprint—this is the first one. Forensic fingerprint analyst Glenn Langenburg proved positively Darlin is excluded as the owner of this print. Darlin's exclusion as the source of this print indicates that an unknown third party not only deposited this print, but deposited it in blood, on the night of the murders.

The second print taken from this door is a latent print located below the patent bloody fingerprint. Latent print consultant Robert Lohnes checked this print in 2003 and said that it matched the second finger joint of Darin Routier on the middle finger of the left hand.

In addition, Langenburg currently is conducting a second examination of the bloody fingerprint on the utility room door to determine whether Darin Routier can also be excluded as the source of this print. If, as Darlie expects, Darin Routier is not the source of this print, Darlie definitively will have demonstrated that an unknown third party deposited two separate fingerprints, one of them in the victims' blood, while fleeing the scene on the night of the murders.

Insurance Scam Attempt

Darin Routier has admitted to trying to arrange an insurance scam, which included someone breaking into their home. He has admitted that he had begun the initial steps to arrange a break-in, but that it was to be done when no one was at home. No jury has heard this admission.

Surely any law would be all over this, how many ways could this be the answer? Maybe not even the way Darin meant it to be but caused with unlawful schemes. I could understand them suspecting him, I really could, and why don't they? I don't believe Darlie would even suspect him, but if I were Darlie I would have to give that some serious thought, but I think Darlie is as I say so much like my own daughter. Either a lack of intelligence or too much into her self, which does not equal a murderer. I keep waiting for my daughter to change and act more mature, but I suspect like Darlie it is just who she is. No changing.

"Birthday Party" Footage

The "birthday party" film that was viewed by the jury that made me think that is a killer, showed Darlie dancing on the graves of her son along with other family members, but did not show the hours previous to that scene when Darlie sobbed and grieved over the graves with her husband Darin. Why was the entire footage not shown?

Black Car on Night of Crime

Neighbors saw a black car sitting in front of the Routier home a week before the murders took place. Other neighbors saw that same car leaving the area on the night of the murders.

Missing or Damaged Evidence?

There was talk the police did not protect the evidence as they gathered it, possibly damaging its origins. Is this true? The investigators told the press that the screen was cut from the inside though it was later proven in court to be cut from the outside. Hm? Police investigated this? The investigators took the fifth amendment—what were they afraid to say? You know without doubt they are hiding something. How are law witnesses allowed to take the fifth? On their deathbed will just one of them spill the truth?

Where Was Darin?

When the paramedics arrived at the scene they said that Darin Routier was outside, but Darin was inside trying to save his children, so who was the man they thought was him? It was reported the testimony of the nurses was coached and rehearsed in mock trials by the prosecution prior to their testimony.

Cut in Darlie's Neck

Saying the cut in her neck was 2mm of the carotid sheath but external to the carotid artery was what Darlie's operating surgeons reported, and that the necklace she had on blocked the cut from going deeper, showing the seriousness and unlikelihood that Darlie did or even could have done this herself.

Found Hair

There was a pubic hair found in the living room. Whose? Did debris on the knife in the kitchen get debris on the knife from police in the kitchen investigating the murder, or did it come from the screen door?

Darin's Jeans

Darin's jeans had blood on them. Why did no one look into this? (Dear God! He is walking around free, he looks the more guilty of the two!) Sometimes I think children could run this world better. Does nothing enter the court's mind about this? Is it too late because they would be hanging themselves? Are they just that lazy? So they just pick someone so it's over?

Mistakes in the Court Report

The court reporter made mistakes in the manuscript so was there an improper read-back of testimony? Why is prosecution not forced to turn over evidence they have that should be available to both sides? Gee, anyone who watches TV knows this rule.

Reluctance for DNA Testing

WHY? DNA testing could put many of these questions to rest. Why is there such a reluctance to do the testing? Many, such as people interested in writing Darlie's story have come to her side and since then have run into convenience problems seeing her or were simply blocked!

Reasonable Doubt

New trial deserved.

It is impossible to believe how much trouble the legal system will go to to make things turn out the way they want. Just knowing the jury did not see this picture is enough to get the woman a new trial, but no. Not only did she lose two children murdered but she cannot get back her youngest son. So one day she may get out and a big settlement. What about the ones who do things like this? Shouldn't they be locked up? I think so!

My View of Her Changed As I Got More Evidence

When I saw Darlie dancing around her children's graves, spraying silly string, laughing and acting so happy I thought, "of course she killed those babies," and I was filled with hate, seeing her acting this way and those babies of hers, murdered and in the ground beneath her.

I can't say that I accept this behavior even now but people are different and I know they are. It still doesn't make them guilty of murder. I really felt so guilty the more I listened, read, and learned. I am not the only one with a change of mind.

With Darlie, what I did not see was the same as what others did not see: Proof. How long will our rotten dirty judicial system keep getting by with having their say, right or wrong and hiding information to make things go the way they want? Why do they continually do this? What I and the jury did not see was Darlie's horrible cut and bruised black arms and hands: defensive wounds, without a doubt.

I have read many true crime books and this is almost a common thing, it has happened so often. The law wants to solve a crime so quickly some idiot decides how it happened and then makes sure it looks that way.

The Elements of Doubt

There are many things missing in this case.

  • Darin's admission of an insurance scam attempt.
  • The screen that was mis-reported as being cut from the inside.
  • Possible improper read-back of testimony to the jury by the court reporter
  • Apparent conflict of interested with the attorney that represented Darlie Routier at trial had an apparent conflict of interest, because he was said to have had a prearrangement with Darin Routier and other family members not to pursue any defense that could implicate Darin. This attorney supposedly stopped key experts for the defense from finishing forensic examinations.
  • The pictures of Darlie's cuts and bruises on her arms which were taken when she was hospitalized the night of the murders.
  • The prosecution's refusal to provide access to any evidence in their custody in the case.
  • No DNA testing.
  • Some writers who have interviewed Darlie Routier have decided to help her fight to get a new trial. Since reporting their opinions on her situation, they report that their ability to visit her has been blocked or made so inconvenient that little can be accomplished.
  • During the trial investigators invoked their Fifth Amendment rights against self-incrimination during cross examination, preventing the defense from rebutting their testimony. Why? This alone would be reason for disbelief and a new trial!

Just a Witch Hunt?

Wake up. Watch your back. It could be prison, pain, mental, or physical cruelty that Darlie will get them for. The list goes on and they know it, and besides that, people like me who will not let anyone forget how accountable they are and how often.

Look at Jon Benet Ramsey, her justice, her family, her poor mother. All those years with their eyes never looking anywhere but at mourning parents. Now does anyone think of the father, the brother? Does anyone think their lives will ever be normal? How different is this case?

Someone runs in and makes a Great Basil Detective decision and that's it! Look no farther. The whole force there should have been fired. They ruined three peoples' lives and found no justice for Jon Benet. Big surprise.

We know there is no justice and we know it a little more every day. What is wrong with these people put there to protect and help us? Do they need testing? Who are they? Did they come from prisons as someone in California says theirs do? Maybe we should be investigating them. It certainly looks that way.

There are so many and I think I would believe here is a case Darlie has against them for sure. They are covering their butts, with no compassion or interest in finding the true criminal.

They just don't want it found out they were wrong and if they do, they may have to pay big, which someone above them is warning them about. But for them, they should have to pay or go to jail, just like what they have put this woman through. If she is innocent, they are guilty, but what ever happens to them, they have committed a crime and are still committing it right now as far as I am concerned.

I am sure the law would force them to turn over evidence . . . or will it go so long it all just gets lost? We have heard that one too many times, huh? Hopefully their hands will be forced eventually and that is when we should demand true justice. They have no evidence against this woman. She at least deserves a new trial with all the evidence. If she were a rapist she would get it!

Look at that woman's wounds. The jury never did. I am not sure whoever her lawyer was shouldn't be charged. Look at all he failed to bring up or show that jury. Isn't that alone enough for a new trial?

We seem to have either many ignorant or crooked people in this case, and even if Darlie gets her new trial and is proven innocent and compensated (and how is that possible?), these people will never have to pay.

They may give them a vacation with pay until everyone forgets. There is so much of the judicial system in all of America that needs a serious investigation of why they are the way they are and in my opinion, much of America needs a clean sweep.

Diane Sawyer - A must watch!

Darin Describes How Cops Ruin Crime Scene

Compare emotions of each parent as they speak of their sons.

Problems with this case!

Older video but full of reasonable doubt!

Facts for doubt

"Forensic Files" Episode That Examines Damning Blood Evidence

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    • Pollyannalana profile imageAUTHOR

      Pollyannalana 

      5 hours ago from US

      Yes, as I say, the dog never comes up and that bothers me to no end. The cops surely considered this or asked questions about it? I think anyone of us here could have investigated this murder better than those who did!

    • Pollyannalana profile imageAUTHOR

      Pollyannalana 

      5 hours ago from US

      Well I hate to make you look silly but I don't see how looking at those drugs you cannot prove are doing anymore and how does anyone possibly prove who Darin was sleeping with? It was an aunt of Darin's who has notes on everything that happened in that trial and she was on Darlie's side and if I am not mistaken others said so too, possibly the author, I will check into that and get back to you on it.

      No need to talk down to me, I don't do you that way nor anyone else unless they get rude..

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      Jo Douglas 

      6 hours ago from Canada

      Polly, there is no possible way Darin heard that glass break. I can promise you that dog would have been screaming blue murder the second the first victim was attacked, He would have been frantic with any movement in the house. That dog was locked up for a reason. Darin went back upstairs and made the mistake of opening up the door to where he locked that dog up. Damian was too small to go down the stairs alone. He was brought upstairs at night to sleep. He was never locked up in any room, he was free to roam the hallways all night as he pleased. No way in hell Darin was upstairs during that attack

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      MForbes 

      20 hours ago

      I am curious Polly. None of the news media at the trial said the judge slept through the case. And Darlie's lawyers at trial nor her appeal lawyers in 22 years have claimed the judge slept as a matter for the case to be reversed. Barbara Davis wrote a book about the case as we all know and yet she never said a word about the judge sleeping. Surely she would have noticed. Whoever is saying that now is obviously not telling the truth. And please don't say aunt Sandy saw him sleeping. She was kicked out of the courtroom at least 4 times by this so-called sleeping judge. She and her good for nothing nephew Darin are both liars.

      We need to focus on the drug Cyndaquil that Darin gave Darlie that night, and how Darin had been sleeping with Karen Neal the so-called "nurse" from across the street. She is the one who put the sock in the alley, and she is the one that hid Darin's bloody clothes after he stabbed his kids. Making stuff up out of thin air about the sleeping judge will make those of us fighting for Darlie look silly.

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      Pollyannalana 

      31 hours ago from US

      JustinCase - It might be the dog did not hear his little masters downstairs screaming the same as their daddy did not, but neither did he come down with the daddy when he was so called alarmed.

    • Pollyannalana profile imageAUTHOR

      Pollyannalana 

      31 hours ago from US

      DaviidParmenter - AS I hear it from more than one source the judge slept throughout the trial and that alone should be reason for the new trial. Darin's own aunt wrote about this but have you heard Darin once bring it up? I haven't. Odd.

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      Cynthia Patterson 

      2 days ago

      I heard a while back that DNA testing was done on the inside of the sock and they found hairs from the shin of and unknown person. Now I hear that this evidence has been sealed has anybody else heard this

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      Rick 

      2 days ago

      This site is distorted!

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      Jo Douglas 

      2 days ago from Canada

      Jan Did all that the Gov got back to me and told me he doesn't handle those issues. Never bothered to tell me who did. I did contact the DA office in Dallas and spoke to a prosecutor there explained what I had learned about Darin, she told me to immediately contact the Rowlett police department, I did and they told me the case was closed they are now waiting on an execution date because her last appeals will be turned down. This came from officer Nabors and the assistant Chief, but not before I was laughed at and made a fool.

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      Haze 

      3 days ago

      Ticktock

      Tick

      Tock

      Tick

      Tock

      Those few moments

      Will be Darin’s eternity

      He knows it

      The trial

      Could last his life. He won’t ever be INJECTED

      But he could indeed....,

      Save his soul

      And better

      Right the wrong

      Maybe

      Just maybe

      He’ll be smart

      Since technology kicked his ass before

      Maybe

      He’ll get right

      Before

      He gets

      LEFT

      we all CAN learn

      From this

      Historic event

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      stunning1 

      3 days ago

      I happen to know the Aisenbergs. Btw. If you're going to tout nonsense learn how to spell. And You don't know anything for sure. You weren't there..

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      Jo Douglas 

      3 days ago from Canada

      Pollyannalana Ramsey was not raped, they claimed sexual abuse but it was all part of the cover up. The evidence pointed at the brother and the parents covered it up to make it look like a possible rape abduction. that is what the theory is.

      In the Routier case it was all about hate and rage. Darin was the only one with a motive.

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      Haze 

      3 days ago

      I think they all know

      I just am not sure that they know what to do bout it

      YET.

      They’ll figure it out

      “These things have to be handled delicately”.

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      JustinCase976 

      3 days ago

      Jo, anything that comes from Bryan needs to be taken with a whole shaker full of salt. If Darin was in the court room, it had to have been after he was called as a witness, or else it was during the penalty phase of the trial. No witnesses were allowed to be present prior to their testimony; that's a fact.

      Why is everyone so hung up on this dog that didn't bark? I have a 5 year old Beagle; he barks at everything, and nothing at all...WHEN HE'S AWAKE. If the dog was in an upstairs bedroom, asleep with the door closed, then the dog had no idea there was anyone else in the house. I believe this whole thing went down in a matter of minutes, and wasn't particularly noisy. It's likely that the only noise at all were grunts and perhaps a muffled scream. I've had visitors come into my home while my dog was napping, sit down and talk for a minute, and then saw the dog wakes up and starts barking at my visitor like, "Hey! How'd you slip past me?" A dog will only bark at a stranger if the dog is aware of their presence.

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      David Parmenter 

      3 days ago

      Is there not a cold case office anywhere in Texas that can look into this case and get test results from the dna? Is there anyone who can look at the apparent stonewalling of the Texas Justice Department and the the lack of credibility of the Rowlett Texas Police department and do something to launch an investigation into not only them, but the District Attorney who formed his opinion to hold Darlie responsible for the death of her children on the night that the murders occured.

      Too much unproven information and evidence that has never been tested and confirmed.

      Seems like it is just okay to let Darlie sit on death row, just because it might just reveal a black eye on this town and its police and district attorney.

      Sad

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      David Parmenter 

      3 days ago

      I believe Darlie is innocent. I believe she needs to be released from prison, exonerated from her charges and that she needs to be compensated by the State of Texas and the States Attorney.

      This is a grievous miscarriage of justice. The attorneys and police of show to be incompetent at least, and egotistical at worst.

      What is wrong with the Texas Department of Justice? I mean, there is an obvious problem with this whole case, and why they do not have this trial reintroduced is beyond reason. There is plenty of evidence to support reasonable doubt. There is plenty of evidence of people not doing their jobs.

      Add to all of this, the town where the trial was held appears to be small town, set in their ways, and were able to be swayed by the prosecutions' case. They became convinced of Darlie's appearance, but I do not hold them accountable.

      Who I do hold accountable is Darlie's defense team. They were completely unprepared for this trial. They allowed testimony that was not disputed, and never challenged any of the prosecutions allegations. They did nothing to demand a mistrial from the actions of the two detectives who took the 5th amendment.

      One other person who failed their duties was the judge who showed his bias and prejudice toward the defendant, solely based on what the prosecutor came up with. He didn't see the glaring offenses that were happening to the defendant and allowed the trial to continue, when he should have declared a mistrial. The defense attorneys though, were asleep in the courtroom and did not challenge the prosecutor, the detectives nor the judge himself.

      I hope to heaven that none of my family or friends ever have anything like this happen to us. Tragedy struck this family and 2 boys were killed, and yet the law, the justice system, and the State of Texas all are responsible for the unlawful arrest and conviction of Darlie in this crime. They did not find the truth, they accepted as fact their police department's conclusion on the night of the murder that the mother had committed the crime.

      Shameful.

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      Haze 

      3 days ago

      Does Darlie now know that

      it was Darin?

      Was she raped?

      Let’s say she gets a new trial, how (hypothetically) would it- should it play out?

    • Pollyannalana profile imageAUTHOR

      Pollyannalana 

      3 days ago from US

      13 - Wasn't the Ramsey girl raped? How could her mother do that? With Darlie there is doubt. How or why would anyone wanting their kids dead do all these things to herself and besides that there is the timeline. There are 101 questions about Darlie's ability to do this and the big thing that keeps popping up (besides the silent dog that Darin was in control of) is who had something to gain? It was Darin, only Darin.

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      Jan 

      3 days ago

      Poor babies :(. I will be writing whoever will listen. If you want resultsthatthe way to do it. Flood the governors office president Trump ect. Free Darlie

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      Jo Douglas 

      4 days ago from Canada

      Sherrie Pyatt please read his statements and compare them to his interviews and court documents. He did this. He didn't hire anyone he did this himself.

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      4 days ago

      You people are so sick and are playing the blame game. Darlie killed those boys and hopefully will die on death row!!!!! Who spent the night with the boys downstairs Darlie. Who tried to come up with an alibi as to why her fingerprints were on the murder weapon handle Darlie. Casey Anthony got away with murdering Caylee. Patsy Ramsey got away with Jon Benets murder and the patents of Sabrina Eisenberg got away with murder. Oh yes and the McCanns who killed little Madeline. Stop defending a killer. Why if she saw a man didnt she scream for her husband. Execute her its way past time!!!!!

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      Jo Douglas 

      4 days ago from Canada

      Haze Some belief the new DNA testing will do it, but I personally believe once a jury sees the truth about Darin they will realize Darlie didn't kill those boys

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      Jo Douglas 

      4 days ago from Canada

      JustinCase976 That is not true Darin was seen in court sitting with Dana. Bryan was mocking that in a video. Saying how Kee was going to flip after seeing them two sitting together.

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      Haze 

      4 days ago

      Reason

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      Haze 

      4 days ago

      Darin has a choice

      He doesn’t have long to choose

      But, he DOES have a choice

      We are not his judge

      It’s big

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      JustinCase976 

      5 days ago

      Haze, Darin was not allowed to be in the courtroom unless he was testifying. None of the witnesses on either side were allowed to be present during the trial.

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      Haze 

      5 days ago

      Does anyone know what would be required for Darlie to have a new trial?

      What was the reason Darin gave for not being with her on the first day of her trial?

      SUITS tangled in SEX DRUGS MONEY LIES - way to long.

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      Pollyannalana 

      5 days ago from US

      Cc - Oh, really? Why would I feel sorry for them? Have they spent over 20 years behind bars for something they didn't do? No...and if they are ever found out, just like the high and mighty corrupt government, they would never pay for their wrong doings. Sounds like you are jealous of the Routier's just in general. Why don't you just save your time and breath?

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      Pollyannalana 

      6 days ago from US

      I think her being drugged answers so much Sherrie and I do believe she was. If prosecution had any intelligence they would have recognized that and not have jumped off the deep end so fast. Someone should have wondered other reasons Darlie had no memory other than she did all theses bizarre things in a race against time.

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      JustinCase976 

      6 days ago

      Jo Douglas, if you or anyone else can find evidence of a murder involving young children and knives that occurred in June of 1996 within a 20 mile radius of Rowlett, then I might abandon the idea that the Routier children were murdered by two men that broke into the house. And yes, I've heard all about the black car, but it doesn't matter anyway because these guys were in a stolen white truck. I'm not going to sit here and argue Darin's innocence, he may well have been the reason those men were in the house that night, but I do not believe Darin stabbed them.

    • Pollyannalana profile imageAUTHOR

      Pollyannalana 

      6 days ago from US

      Mulder may as well have been part of the prosecution, Jo, and I am not sure he wasn't.

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      Pollyannalana 

      6 days ago from US

      That is very strange JustinCase, him being transferred, but as I say I think so many in this little circle know so much and you can be sure so very many around them know things too, it has to leak one day...not soon enough for Darlie though.

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      Sherrie Pyatt 

      6 days ago

      I just finished watching the last defense . I was always a guilty for darkie but something bothered me about Darren . I found him to not be credible . You don’t sign an affidavit if your innocent . I think he has hung in there for monetary reasons as well . This is just my opinion . Also her 911 call was horrific . I found it odd the entire thing with Darren actually for so many reasons . I just am not so sure about Darlie . She either has no memory or she may possibly be covering for him . However I am beginning to think she was drugged just my two cents

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      JustinCase976 

      6 days ago

      One thing I forgot to add about Waddell: the haters love to say that Waddell walked Darin into the house at gunpoint, and that this was proven by the eyewitness testimony of William Gorsuch, the neighbor across the street. Now, I have no doubt that Mr. Gorsuch did indeed see Darin in the yard with an officer, gun drawn...but not when Waddell was first arriving. Waddell enters the home three minutes and thirty nine seconds into the 911 call; since the call started at 2:31 am, that means Waddell is inside the house at 2:34. Well, if you read Mr. Gorsuch's testimony, he was asked if he looked at the time when he looked out the window and he said that he did, and the digital clock said 2:40. Upon further questioning, he was adamant that his clock was set for precisely the right time, and not a few minutes fast as some people are prone to do. By 2:40, Darlie was already off the phone and I believe the second officer was on the scene (I'd have to check to be sure). Gorsuch had been asleep; its possible he woke briefly and peeked out the window, seeing a man in jeans with long hair and assuming it was Darin, because why WOULDN'T it be Darin? When he got up again a few minutes later, at 2:40 when he looked at the clock and saw Darin outside with police, he would have been more awake and would have a clearer memory. Its highly possible that Gorsuch actually fused the two memories into one, which of course begs the question: who was in the Routier's front yard when Waddell pulled up?

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      Jo Douglas 

      6 days ago from Canada

      I hate to burst everyone's bubble here but Darin set up that black car weeks in advance. There was no robbery. Darin planned on robbing his own home. He said he was planning a robbery for when he was on vacation. He knew they weren't going anywhere on the 14th. I don't understand why people continue to bring up the intruder theory? In 22 years there has not been one shred of evidence of an intruder. There was someone in front of the house after 1 am they saw nobody. Waddell was on that main road less than two minutes after she dialed 911. How can anyone still believe the intruder theory after everything we have learned about Darin. Darin even had the balls to say how for weeks after the murders he searched for that car? Hello, Jovell admitted her and Darin set that car up. The first phone call Darin made was to Dana to have her call Jovell to go over to the house to make that false statement. That car was seen driving by in the early afternoon. No jury is ever going to believe the intruder theory, that is the reason Mulder didn't even bring it up.

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      JustinCase976 

      6 days ago

      Polly, did you ever catch Officer Waddell's lie? He maintains to this day that he saw Darin in the front yard when he first pulled up to the house and said that they entered the house together. THAT IS NOT TRUE. Listen to the 911 call while looking at the layout of the first floor. At 3:29 in the call, Darlie asks Darin if they're dead, his response is difficult to hear but I assume its affirmative because she immediately becomes hysterical, screaming "Oh my God!" Now, they both testified that Darin was still attempting CPR at that point, which took place in the Roman (family) room. At exactly 3:39, we hear Waddell enter (you can actually hear the door). How did Darin make it from the Roman room, toward the back of the house past the kitchen, all the way to the front entrance, outside, and Waddell spots him and tells him to stop while he gets out of the car and approaches him (Waddell testified to all this), and they come in the door together...in 10 seconds?? Now, in some versions of the transcript, it says Waddell is the one who yells "Look for a rag!" That is not Waddell speaking, its Darin, while Darlie greets him with "They killed our babies!" He walked into that house alone and was bombarded by two hysterical parents and two butchered children, and he didn't know whether to shit or go blind. But he DID know that he had seen a man in jeans on the front lawn. You wouldn't expect a killer to come right out the front door, but again, refer to the layout of the first floor. Can Darlie be sure the man she saw definitely went into the garage? In the dark, moving fast, he could have skirted out of the utility room and down the hall to the dark, empty dining room, right next to the front door. About that front door: there is ZERO blood on the bolt in the picture. Darlie opens the door about 2:32 in the call and screams for Karen across the street. She didn't have to touch the bolt because it was already undone. Its possible the first guy went out that way and the second guy was preoccupied with Darlie, thinking after he cut her throat it was time to get out of Dodge. Now, imagine if/when Waddell's superiors heard that he may have let the killer slip from right under his nose? Waddell was transferred out of Rowlett shortly after that...

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      Pollyannalana 

      6 days ago from US

      JustinCase, that is so interesting and I have never heard about it. It could easily have been ones looking for the Routier house on purpose and got the wrong one or they just went on with their plan to rob and ended up at the Routiers.

      Since they stole nothing and there were jewels there I would lean more toward the idea that was given in the Darlie Routier book Dateline Purgatory. It was suggested there that Darin paid someone to kill Darlie and some criminals(in prison) that were said to be in that area in a stolen car reportedly (well one of them) talked about killing some little kids and it bothered him apparently really bad. He is dead now and I have no idea about the other one.

      Why someone did not jump right on this I have no idea. It sounded to me like he was surprised by the children and did not come there planning to kill them. Since they have never proven if there was another knife used we have no idea if he brought his own, maybe his friend grabbed one from the kitchen.

      I have forgotten so much in that book but it was well worth the read. Maybe you can find it in your library or used at Amazon. There is a hub here about it by Jackie Lynnley that covers a large part of it.

      Give a lot more insight into the case.

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      Cc 

      6 days ago

      Polly let me remind you that this incident was entirely the fault of the routier family and had nothing to do with the police Dept. I am baffled at the fact you call the officers dirty for responding and doing their jobs. The truth be known they couldn’t care less about this family and we’re just unfortunate to be involved because that’s what their profession damanded they do that night. Heaven forbid you ever have an intruder in your home because I don’t know who you would call for help. You need to stop flapping your gums and think about what really happened and stop blaming the people on the good side. Sure they might have made mistakes because they are not perfect either. But they don’t deserve to be blamed for trying to help.

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      Pollyannalana 

      6 days ago from US

      Very true Jo, I think that dog has always stood out in my mind!

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      JustinCase976 

      6 days ago

      I just need to vent about something: Mary Angelia Rickels, the woman who lived in Darlie's neighborhood and reported an attempted break-in at her house on the night of the murders. Actually, she didn't report the incident until 6/11, five days later. I had a bit of a debate on another site with a user who was quick to dismiss Rickels as a "lying, drugged out, brain damaged lunatic." Rickels had suffered a stroke and had heart problems, so yes, she took blood thinners, cardiac medication, and was also prescribed Trazadone for depression. She and her 15 year old daughter were up late watching TV around 1:30 AM when Rickels heard someone "jiggling" the door handle. She didn't pay it much mind since her husband worked nights and often came home during his break to check on her. But the sounds persisted, followed by what sounded like wood splintering as if someone was trying to force the door. Rickels went to the door and looked out the peephole, seeing two men on the porch. She turned on the porch light and the men took off. About 15 or 20 minutes later, she heard them again, this time trying to open the first floor window of a bedroom belonging to her younger daughter, who was not home. She looked out the blinds and saw the same men; this time one of them had a knife or screwdriver. She turned on the bedroom light and again they ran away. However, she did not report this to police until 6/11. It's funny how the Darlie Haters have to dismiss her as a drugged out liar, because having 2 would-be intruders present in the neighborhood the same night as the Routier murders creates serious doubt. The other commenter said, "Had a stroke=brain damaged." (I hope no stroke victims are ever a victim of crime; apparently their credibility is shot from the get-go). The commenter actually tried to suggest that Rickels hallucinated the whole episode due to the Trazadone. This could be a reasonable argument, except that Rickels' daughter heard the commotion too and was scared to death. Were they both tripping? BTW, Rickels is educated and a Registered Nurse, health problems or no. Finally, the commenter cited Rickels' failure to call the cops that night as another reason to doubt her. Personally, I could maybe see not calling the cops after the first break in attempt, but not after the men came back again. So I have a theory as to why she didn't call them that night: suppose she was self-medicating with marijuana that night? She may have been afraid the cops would smell it or see her bloodshot eyes. I realize that the idea of Rickels toking on a doobie doesn't exactly boost her credibility, but it would certainly explain her reluctance to have police present that night, and it certainly wouldn't mean that someone still didn't try to break in.But after sharing the story with her husband, in-laws, friends, etc, there may have been a lot of pressure put on her to make the police aware of what happened, considering the murders occurred that same night. Rickels has nothing to gain by filing a false report, or perjuring herself on the stand during the trial. If she is telling the truth, as I believe she is, that puts 2 bad guys about half a mile away from the Routier home around 2 AM. Any thoughts?

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      Jo Douglas 

      6 days ago from Canada

      I am wondering why the Darlie haters aren't more concerned about the fact that Darin changed his story again, admitting he didn't show up in that hallway until Darlie already dialled 911. No way in hell that dog was silent for over three minutes while his family was being slaughtered. What the hell were the police thinking? What is Darlie thinking?

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      Haze 

      6 days ago

      How come we can’t talk about the other crimes in the neighborhood

      The house burning

      And the officer being a narcotics agent with the cocaine wife

      The bloody clothes found

      THE TWO OTHER KNIVES FOUND

      AND MOST OF ALL

      ??

      Where in the world could Darin be on the first day of trial?!

      Hummm. Makes one wonder

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      Pollyannalana 

      6 days ago from US

      Jackson - Someone like Darin?

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      Pollyannalana 

      6 days ago from US

      Thestunning1- So true. If Darlie did this she would have been out of her mind and a sane calculating person could not have pulled this off, no one could. These cops knew that. There is so much more to this story that I hope someone will tell before they die. Besides the crooked cops, I am sure their families know and friends they have shared this with. One day it will come out. I am surprised it has remained hidden this long.

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      Jackson 

      7 days ago

      She deserves what she got. She clearly has all of the evidence pointing at her. Never mind the fact that if you payed attention that her stories do not line up and there was no sign of a second person. She deserves to rot in hell for what she did. No unknown DNA was found on the boys. Only her own. Her own wounds were self inflicted. The knife used to cut the screen was from her house so why would someone break in and then come back out to cut the screen and then put the knife back? She deserves the death penalty

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      Carmen 

      9 days ago

      Justice for Darlie. She's inocent.

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      Haze 

      10 days ago

      HOORAH

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      JustinCase976 

      10 days ago

      Kit21088, look at the pictures of the sink: the left side, the right side, and the front. What part appears clean? If this question sounds snide, it is not intended to be. The sink does not appear to be cleaned in any way. Two sponges were collected; no blood on either. The cleaning agents underneath the sink were inspected; again, no blood. If I am to believe Darlie cut herself at the sink and then cleaned it up, I have to also believe that she did it with nothing but water and her hands. The only thing the sink looks like is one that had blood in at as well as water. The presence of nothing more than water does not indicate a clean up job to me. Let me take it one step further: if the sink is where she slit her throat, stabbed her shoulder and then stabbed her arm twice, where is all the cast-off blood? Aside from the sink, there should be at least a few blood drops on the window, curtains, wall, counter, etc. There is absolutely no indication she was cut at the sink or cleaned it out.

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      Haze 

      11 days ago

      Read :

      MEDIA TRIED JUSTICE DENIED

      Look to:

      BRIAN PARDO

      “They’ve got the wrong parent”

      *but you see, Darlie loved him so much - her real eyes

      Didn’t realize .......

      Use:

      COMMON SENSE

      Unearth the truth

      There is dirt in abundance

      Dig this

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      Thestunning1 

      11 days ago

      Apparently Shy is a troll. Stick to real facts! That's a damn Pokemon! And the satanic shit and drug deals. Please provide links if you want to tout such nonsense. Anyways. There was blood at the sink Kit. She went and got towels per the officers that were there. People who really think in 6 minutes she had time to do all this staging , cleaning up, inflict wounds on herself are extremely low IQ. But hey mines 138 and the average in the US is 105. Oh and I forgot run and place a sock. Seriously!

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      Haze 

      11 days ago

      What MAN

      What Husband

      What Father

      Doesn’t go to court

      THE FIRST DAY OF THE TRIAL

      After HIS SONS

      Are stabbed TO DEATH

      And his

      love

      His wife

      facing

      the death

      PENALTY

      The penalty of this sin

      Is death

      Eternal burning

      Damnation

      No matter the outcome

      The outcome

      Will come

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      Jellybean77 

      11 days ago

      Kit. If this were true, why would that sink full of luminol not have been presented to the court during trial...Not a trial lawyer but that's a no brainer.

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      Kurly 

      11 days ago

      Whether or not she is guilty it is obvious Darin was involved. I think he is the perpetrator, he is the one who staged the crime scene and he is the one who cut the screen, stabbed his wife and washed his hand at the sink while he had her blood dripping off of him.

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      MForbes 

      11 days ago

      You are 100% wrong kit21088. That article only mentions ONE CPR attempt on Damon. My research clearly shows there were 8 CPR attempts.

      That article never even mentions Cyndaquil, the drug that has been confirmed by Jo Douglas and others to have been used by Darin on Darlie to confuse her and make her look guilty. This has been widely accepted as what happened to her that night. She was drugged.

      I also read nothing in that article about the affair Darin was having with Karen Neil the "neighbor" across the street that just happened to be a nurse. She was in love with Darin and she helped him get rid of his bloody clothes, and she is most likely the person who put the sock in the alley.

      If you want to know the truth about this case read Jo Douglas's hub pages. She has already educated millions about this case with her incredible detective work. I don't know what schools she went to, but she is brilliant and knows everything about this case.

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      Jo Douglas 

      12 days ago from Canada

      Linda, I completely agree. Darin hired Mulder not because he was good but because he agreed not to implicate him in the crime. He kept his end of the deal. He never implicated Darin in the crime.

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      Jo Douglas 

      12 days ago from Canada

      Sorry poly, they are using fake profiles again. I didn't post that last statement. Amazing how desperate they are to try and discredit anyone who believes in Darlie. That is perverton wood up to his old tricks again. Very sad

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      Lbkmom 

      12 days ago

      Is there a fund or a party helping her that accepts donations?

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      Pollyannalana 

      13 days ago from US

      Sorry to disagree Shy, but I think Texas will never do a thing for Darlie unless forced to. They owe her big, and they know it! Big handful there headed to hell over this tightly kept secret. I don't see how they sleep at night.

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      Pollyannalana 

      13 days ago from US

      You forgot the link Jo!

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      Shy Kes 

      13 days ago

      God bless you Polly. If it were not for you and the outstanding work of others like Jo Douglas who knows where Darlie would be. I spoke with Steve Cooper by phone yesterday, and he says that Darlie herself has looked at Jo's articles about the 11 fake CPR attempts, the drug Cyndaquil used of her and found in her toxicology, and the cocaine that Darin sold to minors on the spare time. She never knew that Darin was a Satanist until Jo went into detail about it. Darlie wants to thank all of you for believing in her and her story about the intruder when so many "formally educated" LOL beyond grade 5 did not. We know better.

      More and more people are coming to realize that she is innocent. A few more online articles like this one and I am SURE the Texas courts will feel the pressure to set Darlie free soon.

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      Jo Douglas 

      13 days ago from Canada

      Here is a quick summary of the DNA order/results:

      Darlie sought to test:

      1. untested bloodstains and swabs from the butcher knife murder weapon,

      2. untested bloodstains from her nightshirt

      3. untested bloodstains from couch pillows

      4. untested blood from the finger print on the coffee table

      5. untested bloodstains from the sock in the alley

      6. the limb hairs from the sock

      The Court already ruled that she has a case for innocence IF:

      DNA evidence from the SAME unknown male was discovered in blood on the nightshirt, blood from the utility room door, and was the contributor of the pubic hair and facial hair. The DNA has to match, of course - a couple of unknown unmatching DNA samples can't cut it.

      The results of the so-far completed testing include:

      1. All the blood on the nightshirt came from either Darlie, Damon, Devon, or a combination of them.

      2. The blood from the sock was sourced to Devon.

      3. The blood from the utility room door yielded no DNA profile.

      4. The pubic hair and facial hair (which was recovered from a kitchen rug - these are NOT the limb hairs from the sock) do not match either Darlie, Devon, Damon or Devon - BUT they do not match each other either. They are two random hairs stuck to a kitchen rug.

      The state is now asking the court to put an end to her DNA testing b/c the testing that HAS been done shows that she has no way to meet the burden the courts already ruled must be met if she wants to prove her innocence.

      It should be noted that if the judge grants the state's motion, she still has the federal level appeals process. Her fight isn't over yet, but it's certainly getting closer and closer.

      Updated: The federal judge has granted more DNA testing. Darlie is getting to test everything.

      Here's a link to the latest order: link

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      Pollyannalana 

      13 days ago from US

      So true stunning1, it was a total waste of everyone's time! It is the most unbelievable thing I have ever witnessed. Almost makes me feel like the Twilight Zone! Nothing ever happens to help Darlie no matter how many hundreds of doubts are raised!

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      Thestunning1 

      2 weeks ago

      Yes. People kill for no reason. I'm sick of them saying there has to be motive. Not always. If you watch stories about murders commited there is no rhyme or reason. She was home alone with the boys and no car for a while. It's just ridiculous. I mean The Ramsey case no one was ever tried. Casey Anthony they had her on tapes in jail lying. I wonder why interrogations of them were never recorded? It's so careless and ridiculous its beyond belief. I really hope she gets a new trial or it's overturned. hell even the making of a murderer was better than that documentary.

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      Jane Bell 

      2 weeks ago

      This is all bullshit. Set Darlie Routier free now. She is innocent. It does not take DNA this long.

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      Pollyannalana 

      2 weeks ago from US

      I totally agree Linda. Her defense was apparently against her, clearly!

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      JustinCase976 

      2 weeks ago

      Does anyone have a link to the results of the DNA testing done on the sock that wad found? I have heard conflicting accounts of the findings. I've read that the sock contained blood from both boys, and I've read that only Devon's blood was discovered on it. I've also read that DNA from Darlie's skin cells were found on it, and I've read that it tested positive for her saliva. Can anyone clear this up?

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      Linda 

      2 weeks ago

      Its very clear she was rail roaded. And everyone involved needs to be investigated. The defense attorney failed her, he was supposed ti be the best, the court appointed attorney wouldve been better for her ..

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      Pollyannalana 

      2 weeks ago from US

      Dr Ras - It is very clear what the prosecution did and it is clear to me that for whatever reason, Darlie had no defense! It is almost like he wanted her found guilty. His justice is coming.

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      Pollyannalana 

      2 weeks ago from US

      Cpatchin - What got me more than anything was she only gets 2 hours outside a week! How inhumane is that? Hardened criminals seem to get more care than she does. How can you survive with two hours outside in a week? Just gives me whiplash thinking about it!

      An hour a day is not enough, but something! She should at least get that.

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      Pollyannalana 

      2 weeks ago from US

      Justin, it could also have been someone paid to make it look like a break-in and it went wrong. Or maybe he was supposed to just kill Darlie but the boys jump up screaming and so are killed although maybe they said the one was killed laying on his back, perhaps while he was sleeping. Now that would be horrible that anyone could set out to do this. I wouldn't even want to think Darin would and I believe him capable of anything.

      I wish Darlie had explained her feelings more too but maybe she has been told not to.

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      Pollyannalana 

      2 weeks ago from US

      I know Jo, that show was of no help whatsoever. I mean you have all these people so sure of her innocence and none of them can do nothing? It is ridiculous!

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      DR. RAS 

      2 weeks ago

      It is not uncommon to have people laugh at a funeral... That family just finished with 2 hours of intense crying which the Kerrville townspeople did not see. As a scientist to hear Greg Davis say they prepared the witnesses by showing the nurses the crime scene photos is totally the wrong thing to do; that is going to directly effect their testimony. This is no better than the Salem witch trials. This shows the PROBLEM with the Justice system. Two sides, each trying to win at all cost; instead of seeking the truth...

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      Cpatchin 

      2 weeks ago

      No way Darlie is guilty! My heart goes out to her. I have always felt this way, especially after reading "Media Tried Justice Denied" and the updated version with 200 pages showing evidence.

      I found it interesting the other night when Darin said he hasn't been to visit her for 6 years and when Darlie talked about trust. I wonder if Drake goes to visit her. And , where is Darlies mom? Did it hit anyone as hard as it hit me when they took her back to her cell? I actually found myself gasping and shedding tears.

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      Justmyopinion 

      2 weeks ago

      After watching this documentary I am perplexed as to how/why this woman was found guilty "beyond a reasonable doubt." Really calls our justice system into question. The silly string incident was unsettling, but not enough to make me say, "she did it!" I think the silly string was just Darlee being Darlee: "silly." There is no way those wounds were self inflicted and quite frankly, I don't think Darlee had the capacity to plan/stage/construct that crime as it played out: bloody sock, defensive wounds, etc. If Darlee wanted to kill her kids she'd have killed them all, not just two of three. I'm still intrigued by that fingerprint, looked like it belonged to a woman. My gut tells me Darin is at the center of it all. Whether a staged burglary, affair, owed someone money?? I don't trust him at all: which is also what Darlee said at the end of the documentary but she doesn't say "exactly" why?

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      JustinCase976 

      2 weeks ago

      "Whoever did this, had a lot of rage, and knew these boys very well."

      An inflammatory statement with absolutely no factual basis nor any evidence to back it up. Ever seen a victim of a road rage incident? Their assailants know nothing about their victims. When Ted Bundy went into that sorority house and stabbed and beat and bashed all those girls, that was an intense amount of rage, yet he didn't a single one of them personally. Rage is rage. Sometimes it's personal, sometimes it isn't. That was a prejudicial statement that added one more nail to the circumstantial coffin.

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      Jo Douglas 

      2 weeks ago from Canada

      I don't know how many watched that last episode of the last defence but Darin was asked about that affidavit he signed. He claimed the contents were false but he did it to help Darlie, so how does he explain so many people coming forward about him asking them to help set up the robbery. They talked about that black car but we now know Darin and his employee set that car up. I don't get why they bother to make those programs if they are going to continue to lie.

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      Pollyannalana 

      2 weeks ago from US

      JustinCase - More great points. Once anyone takes a minute to think this through there has to be so much reasonable doubt!

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      Pollyannalana 

      2 weeks ago from US

      Rhyme, thank you for your comment. It is good to see people with a little intelligence.

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      Pollyannalana 

      2 weeks ago from US

      All true Bunny and another big point in my book is why would a son she just stabbed be calling her and following her around? Would have been a great point I think for this lawyer of hers to bring up to the jury. They can brag on this lawyer all they want. All I see is Darlie's enemy through the whole thing. Not sure why...but there is a reason to be sure.

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      JustinCase976 

      2 weeks ago

      If you believe Darlie is the killer, then you have to believe either: she snapped in the middle of the night and just starts stabbing one of the kids, while the other either sleeps through it peacefully or just quietly and patiently waits his turn. Then, after this psychotic break, she returns to her senses and has the presence of mind to do all this staging, run down the alley and drop a sock she can't even be sure will be found, run back, cut her own throat, try to clean up even though she's bleeding everywhere, and scream for Darin and call 911 even though Damon is still alive and could identify her as the attacker. That's a hard sell. On the flipside, if you believe it was premeditated, you have to believe that she would choose to do it in the middle of the night, with Darin upstairs, even though she has access to the children all day long and if she truly wanted them dead, she had plenty of better opportunities to pull it off. You also have to believe that this so-called "materialistic" woman, who prioritized her expensive, pretty belongings over her children, and was by all accounts a fastidious housekeeper, purposely chose to spill blood on that beautiful white carpet. Yeah, no. It didn't happen, either way.

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      Rhyme or Reason 

      2 weeks ago

      Darlie Routier was found guilty because she died her hair blonde and got breast implants plus she spent a lot of money on fancy jewelry. A former juror even stated this and how this convinced her of Darlie's guilt. After watching this program I now know that Darlie is not guilty of this crime.

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      Jo Douglas 

      2 weeks ago from Canada

      stunning 1 You don't have to be an attorney to see what happened here. The police admitted they never investigated Darin because his story appeared to fit. They said appeared. All you had to do was compare his police statement he wrote on the 8th to the 911 call and witness statements.

      Darin to this day denies running out the front door. He denies doing two separate cpr attempts of Devon. He to this day has continued to lie about when he appeared in that hallway. The only Darlie and Damon were alive until the medics showed up is because they hadn't bleed out yet.

      Darin made sure he never helped Damon. He kept lying saying he had no pulse, he didn't know they were hurt, his training told him not to turn him over. He deliberately denied both living victims any help at all, it was obvious what he did. He went into detail about what they watched and talked about in his police statement, then he lied about why he ran upstairs, he has never brought up leaving the house either times after Waddell pulled up. He was seen outside by a neighbor. The neighbor saw the second police car coming over the hill.

      Darin knew somehow he had to get something out side that home to make it appear there was an intruder. HIs sock was found right above that manhole. The same manhole the police didn't bother searching. They didn't even take the knives that were found in the neighbors back yard. You tell who does gardening using knives. The police knew Darin snuck out of that house just before Walling came in and they completely hid that information from the jury.

      In order to believe the prosecutions version, you have to believe Darlie stabbed the boys, took the chance on leaving Damon alive to go down the alley 75 yards, come back stab Damon again, then attack herself mean while Darin claims he never heard a word. According to doctors there was no reason any of the victims didn't scream out.

      The only reason they never investigated Darn is because they knew they screwed up by not separating him from Darlie and letting him wash up. They went after Darlie to cover up police error and contamination. The only one who told the truth was Waddell, and left him out of everything.

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      Bunny 

      2 weeks ago

      I actually didn't thing the silly string was weird.All of my birthdays that age we used silly string.She wanted to celebrate their life NOT a second funeral.The biggest hole in the case is how come none heard the children scream.The murder obviously couldn't stab both to death at the same time.One boy had to have heard or see the other, and scream for the help.Neither parents heard them but only one was convicted.But more interesting is why didn't the neighbors here the boys screaming.They didn't live in a sound proof house and they were that far apart.I can hear my neighbor TV who lives a normal distance away.If their kids were screaming that late at night i would be able to hear them.Only logical conclusion they didn't scream.why? no head bashes. logical conclusion points chloroform, or something similar used to knock them out but no rags, or evidence that was left in the house.And this might also explain why darlie might have not woken up when stabbed and why the neighbor or Darin didn't hear the boy scream.The biggest piece of evidence was the that Damon was still breathing when she called 911.Had she killed them she wont risk paramedics saving him, or him naming the killer in a dying breathe.Finally no substantial evidence was there to convict her.Its innocent until proven guilty not proven guilty because you can't be proven innocence.

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      Pollyannalana 

      2 weeks ago from US

      Thanks Gloria. I know most of us are always glad to see someone seeing the injustice against Darlie.

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      Pollyannalana 

      2 weeks ago from US

      Did you see that show tonight Jo. Darlie says she does not trust him and who can blame her for not saying why, when no one else does? Why does no one mention the large insurance policy on her?

      I was pleased to hear others thinking like me that Darlie was probably drugged, explaining so much.

      What about the 9 year wait right now to have the fingerprint run? They will not allow it!

      Poor poor Darlie, two hours a week outside! Someone needs to pay for this. Even if I found out Darin was innocent I will always still see him as a creep.

      He just signed that paper about the break in he had planned to help Darlie, it wasn't true. Please!

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      Pollyannalana 

      2 weeks ago from US

      Please do write him stunning 1. If enough of us do, who knows, maybe he will pay attention.

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      Gloria Hunt 

      2 weeks ago

      I believe she deserves a new trial. I really feel for her . I had forgotten about this case til I seen it advertised on T.V.

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      Jo Douglas 

      3 weeks ago from Canada

      I do hope your right Poly, I have looked at this case for long now. The thing is many people have told me that they believe me, including the detective. He said he realized that I had dug deep into the case and brought up some very important facts. He just isn't sure if it is enough to make a case, but I haven't given him the small details and timelines that prove without a doubt what Darin did. I think once I show my prove in timelines and interviews and statements the pieces will fall into place. My problem has always been that I have stored the information in head for so many years when I should have been posting the evidence side by so he could picture exactly what Darin was doing while his family was dying.

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      stunning 1 

      3 weeks ago

      Jo, are you an attorney? I've seen you on numerous sites making baseless claims. I wonder if you are not trolling or Darin? Occult, affairs, drugs, Have you published anything? Manson cut is ridiculous. You act like he's Illuminati. Come after you? Lol. He'd have to come after 1000's of people. Focus on facts. She deserves a new trial. But if he made a deal he can't be tried. I'm not an attorney but I don't think if she did get a new trial that they couldn't bring him in anyways. makes me mad when others with less to go with have been granted new trials. I don't want to bring politics in but as much as I'd hate to associate with 45 I may write to him to see if there is something that can be done.

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      Pollyannalana 

      3 weeks ago from US

      Maybe Darlie does now see just what you see Jo and maybe even more. What is she supposed to do? Especially when even her mother is listening to none of it? Maybe she is quietly discussing this with someone if there is anyway she can go behind the backs of the only two people she technically have working for her.

      I just cannot feel good at all degrading a bird in a cage while weasels circle the bars. I don't care about any of those technicalities when Darlie was horribly wounded and then put through hell before thrown to death row.

      Do I expect she should be thinking about all you have been thoroughly investigating after the fact? I really don't. It is very emotionally upsetting to me to just imagine what all this has been like for her, much less living it. No use trying to get me to. We will one day have answers to all our questions or else we won't but I won't put any blame on Darlie. Before, during or after. She was physically and mentally put through the wringer and I blame her for nothing. She had to be half out of her mind and here we are pretty sure it was worse than she had any idea. Her husband came within a milometer of snuffing out her life and could have at anytime after this. He could have made it look like suicide and probably gotten by with it! Maybe if she hadn't gone to prison he would have finished her off by now, who knows? Maybe she does know.

      Why would I want to pick on her? I just am not going to and I have discussed it all I want to.

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      Jo Douglas 

      3 weeks ago from Canada

      Hi Poly, I have absolutely no doubt that Darlie did not kill or boys or have any part in their murder, but I just can not get past the fact that she has continued to protect Darin.

      I know there are things that happened that night that were foggy, but she kept things back that happened long before the attack. Darlie knew that they had fought for week prior to the killings, she about Darin talking about a robbery, she knew he was broke, she knew he cheated, she knew he had cocaine in his room, she knew she was not at the foot of the stairs when she first saw him. She knew he left that house right Waddell arrived and didn't go over to karens. She knew he lied about the table falling and Devon and that being the reason he went over there.

      She knew Darin did cpr on Devon 15 seconds into the 911 call. She ,knew Devon died 39 seconds into the call she screamed that out. She knew Waddell didn't lie about Darn running out the front door, she knew he didn't lie about Darin doing cpr on Devon the second time when he knew for a fact he died 4 minutes earlier.

      I spoke to Julie so many times and I gave her messages names and organizations that were willing to help Darlie and she either didn't pass on that information or Darlie didn't bother to contact them. There was Christian innocence program that reached out to Darlie and she never bothered to get back to them. Every time someone seriously got involved they immediately suspected Darin and then Darlie would drop them.

      The hump here is there was no intruder. They don't have another suspect and Darlie refuses to look at the truth. In 22 years Darin has never reached out to try and help find a suspect. He pushed that intruder theory, but right after her arrest he backed right off that. He knew he set up that black car and there wasn't anyone stalking his home. Everything he did was to protect himself and cover up.

      I do not understand why Darlie is not telling the truth about Darin. Even when questioned about their finances she still defended and protected Darin

      To this day she still swears it was not Darin who she saw, but from her own description it fit Darin. She had just woken up, she never saw the mans face, but the hair description fit Darin. It wasn't up to her to say if it was Darin or not, it was up to the police to do a proper investigation into Darin to make sure it wasn't him.

      How can they help her if she isn't willing to tell the truth? She knew he was broke, angry and had nothing to do with those boys.

      I am sorry but I am very frustrated and disappointed with her at this point. There is no possible way she could have known if it was Darin or not, so why didn't or doesn't she let them do a proper investigation into Darin and find out for sure.

      That fact that he told so many lies, and him doing those two cpr attempts and never helping Damon should have opened her eyes. Darin admitted in court he never touched Damon or tried to put pressure on his wounds. She knew he lied about not knowing her and Damon were injured. Darin is still telling the same old lies 22 years later and she is still defending him. I don't get it.

      Don't you think they would have been desperately doing anything they could to find this intruder? But nothing from anyone of them. Darin and kee showed up for interviews and talk shows, but out side of that there was nothing.

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      Pollyannalana 

      3 weeks ago from US

      Dani said at Facebook for those of you who did not see it that Darlie loved hearing from everyone and to leave a return address on letters so she could write us back.

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      Pollyannalana 

      3 weeks ago from US

      Jolie, thanks for that info. If there were enough people with testimony like this, perhaps it could get someone's attention. The real murderer needs to be going in as Darlie comes out but with the injustices in this country I know we all know that is not likely to happen. It really does scare me a little if she got out she would not be safe and mainly because I think she does trust ones she loves too much.

      Her head was in a cloud back then, maybe it still is, maybe she knows no other way of thinking.

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      Pollyannalana 

      3 weeks ago from US

      Thanks Debbie, many of us do. Darlie was just done dirtier than a dog and never had a fighting chance. I can't for the life of me understand people who twist a tale to fit around who they want it to be. Everything screams look at Darin. Why didn't they?

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      Pollyannalana 

      3 weeks ago from US

      I have no idea Jo. Darin has to know many suspect him and he can't come after us all so why would he go after any? I am sure you have possibly done much more and talked to many more but apparently you have not convinced anyone. Have you talked to the free lawyer that was on this show? Surely he would suspect Darin and try to do something but isn't this film sponsored by Darin and Kee? I mean it seems to be, so could this lawyer even bring up suspicions of Darin?

      Just really frustrating so I can imagine what it is like for Darlie.

      I know many prisoners have jumped into books and the law and came out fighting but apparently that is not Darlie. Maybe she just does not have a fighting spirit. Maybe she is afraid of someone. I mean at least she is safe where she is at. I sure do not have the answers.

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      Pollyannalana 

      3 weeks ago from US

      Wow, stunning 1 that is a great idea! He just might let her go...of course in that case she would receive no money for false arrest.

      No I said I didn't hold it against her for the boob job. None of my business and especially not that juries. I just meant she was all about having fun and well. spoiled, having anything she wanted. As it showed her and friend together you could see she was so full of herself and not contributing to the conversation as the friend was...but as I said that is nothing to do with murder and my point was we do not have to like a person to find them innocent. We just look at facts, which this jury did not do.

      Good luck with Trump!

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      Jolie 

      3 weeks ago

      Even the reporter who worked for NBC Dallas news who covered the famous grave scene said it was cut up to look like Darlie was "happy"... He tried to tell anyone who would listen that it wasn't that way and he wished he'd never given the video. Also the husband was having a affair with Darlies 16yr old cousin... this woman is innocent.

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      Debbie 7777 

      3 weeks ago

      I believe Darlie is completely innocent but I also agree with Jo Douglas in that she must know Darin was involved - maybe not in the beginning when she was still in shock, not thinking clearly, and medicated. She was young and naive, and believed her husband, mother and lawyer had her best interests at heart. But as time went on, and she had time to think about what she knows happened vs what Darin said happened, I do not see how she could not begin to have doubts about Darin's story. Even her court-appointed attorneys believed he was involved. Most convicted people would grab at a chance to have someone offer to help prove their innocence; but not Darlie. Something is wrong here. All I can think of is she fears for Drake's life if she speaks now. Her story is tragic but until she is willing to speak, there does not seem to be much anyone can do. Her current lawyer is fixated on DNA evidence and is wasting his time and her life. I wish there was something I could do to help her.

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      followeroflight 

      3 weeks ago

      i think it's pretty well known that Darin belonged to the same cult as Manson and Son of Sam. He's still wearing the occult rings no his fingers in the new program.

      Somebody should have got Dale Griffiths to check the crime seen instead of that loser Cron. Cron had no occult experience and missed all the signs. Darlie was drugged hypnotically and that's why she couldn't remember seeing Darin. Damon's wounds were in a downward triangle, which is a Satanic symbol. and the sock was deposited to the east of the house--east =Lucifer.

      Mulder tried to do a good job but didn't know what he was dealing with. Bless you Polly! You are doing GOD's work. Don't let this Jo person lead you astray. I could be wrong but i worry about her motives

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      Jo Douglas 

      3 weeks ago from Canada

      Poly, haven't you wondered even for a second why Darin hasn't come after me?

      I am calling him out right here, right now. Darin Routier murdered Devon and Damon Routier and I want him to prove I am wrong.

      What more can I do here?

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