Darlie Routier: Over Twenty Years on Death Row

Updated on August 9, 2018
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Polly is far from politically correct when it comes to justice. Truth means more to her than making fans by saying what they want to hear!

These three children were Darlie's only claim to financial gain as anyone knows. Worth much more to her alive than dead if that was her purpose.
These three children were Darlie's only claim to financial gain as anyone knows. Worth much more to her alive than dead if that was her purpose. | Source

Who Was Darlie Routier, and What Did She Do?

Darlie Routier (pronounced "rue-tier") is an American woman who lived in Rowlett, Texas, and was accused and convicted of murdering her five-year-old son, Damon. Her six-year-old, Devon, also died that night; however, she was not tried for his murder. The text from her indictment reads: "the Defendant, on or about the 6th day of June, A. D., 1996, in the County of Dallas, and said State did unlawfully, then and there, intentionally and knowingly cause the death of Damon Christian Routier, an individual, hereinafter called the deceased, by stabbing said Damon Christian Routier with a knife."

Darlie had no history of mental illness. She was not abusive to her sons. And her youngest son, seven-month-old Drake, and husband, Darin, were unharmed. There seems to be conflicting evidence, such as the police suggesting that Darlie's wounds were self-inflicted and Darlie claiming that a man attacked her and her sons.

Some say there is more to this trial than the official investigation showed.

Let's take a look.

The Timeline and the Individuals Involved

Timeline

  • June 6th 1996 2:31 AM: Darlie makes a frantic phone call to the police, alleging that someone broke into the home and stabbed her and her two children.
  • June 18th 1996: Darlie is arrested.
  • February 1997: The trial is moved from Dallas to Kerrsville, a small and conservative town with a high murder-conviction rate.
  • February 4th 1997: Darlie is convicted of murdering Damon and sentenced to death by lethal injection.
  • May 2003: Darlie appeals, and the appeal is denied.
  • 2011: Darlie and Darin's divorce is finalized.

Individuals Involved

  • Darlie Routier: The woman the case centers around. Accused of and convicted of killing her five-year-old son, Damon.
  • Darin Routier: Darlie's husband from 1988-2011. He upholds Darlie's innocence to this day.
  • Damon Routier: Darlie and Darin's five-year-old son. Was found DOA.
  • Devon Routier: Darlie and Darin's six-year-old son. Died on the way to the hospital.
  • Drake Routier: Darlie and Darin's youngest son. He was seven months old at the time of the murders.
  • Greg Davis: One of the lead prosecutors.
  • Toby Shook: One of the lead prosecutors.
  • Tom Bevel: A blood spatter expert who testified for the defense. He has since been involved in a sizable number of false convictions due, at least in part, to his erroneous "expert" testimony.
  • Doug Parks: Darlie's initial court-appointed attorney. He was eventually replaced by the famous defense attorney Doug Mulder.
  • Stephen Cooper: An attorney who has been representing Darlie for the last twenty or so years.
  • Doug Mulder: Darlie Routier's attorney and was a bit of a celebrity attorney in Texas.
  • Jimmy Patterson: A Rowlett, Texas, police officer investigating the case.
  • James Cron: A forensic consultant who was asked by the Rowlett police to help investigate the Routier crime scene. You can read his testimony.
  • Terry Laber: A forensic specialist who was primed by the defense to refute Tom Bevel's claims. For whatever reason, the defense never called him.

Before the Murders

Darlie moved to Lubbock as a teenager with her mom and stepdad. She met Darin in a Western Sizzlin' where her mother worked and where Darin was a cook. He was 17, and she was 15. They married four years later.

After moving to the Dallas area, he began his own small company called Testnec that tested electronic components. When he became a success in the early nineties, they bought a nice house and spent thousands getting it just how they wanted. Darin bought a thirty-foot cabin cruiser and a 1982 Jaguar. They went a little wild with their money, and Darlie bought new boobs and flashy jewelry.

The neighbors never saw them as wild though. Four of her friends attested that she was an excellent mother and a kind, warm, fun-loving person. She often had the neighborhood kids over and baked cookies for them. Those kids stood up for her against the accusation that she killed her sons.

All of a sudden, their business went downhill, and they allegedly got behind on their bills. They supposedly owed $10,000 in back taxes and $12,000 on credit cards, which isn't an especially noteworthy amount of debt for a newly married couple who just bought a house.

There was a very brief entry in Darlie's diary that was about suicide. My doctor once asked me if I had ever thought about suicide, and my answer was, "Hasn't everyone?" He laughed because it was true. Maybe to different extents, but if you know the world, you have thought about it. If you have something you just think you can't face, you may think about suicide. So I consider that pretty normal and nothing to even consider in anyone's sanity.

Thirty is coming up, and to some in their twenties, that looks old! It is nothing serious, but a little something as I say—and combined with all else going on with her—she probably was suffering from slight depression, which seems normal everything considered. And that does not a murderer make.

The Night of the Murders

The timeline for the night of the murders went something like this:

Darlie called 911 around 2:30 AM, frantically trying to relay that someone had broken in, stabbed the boys, and attacked her. She claimed to have woken up to someone being on top of her. Darin and their youngest son were upstairs during the time of the attack, and they were unharmed. The police arrive about 3:41 seconds into the 911 phone call.

Devon was pronounced DOA, and Damon—barely alive—died on the way to the hospital.

Damon and Devon Routier
Damon and Devon Routier | Source

Let's Examine the Evidence

Did Darlie Routier Do It or Not?

That's a really great question. While I have my beliefs, let's go through each hotly contended aspect of the trial so that you can come to your own conclusions, and then I'll tell you have I feel.

Inexperienced Police Force

Several of the documentaries note that the Rowlett police department was inexperienced at investigating murder cases because they simply didn't have many murders occur in their precinct. For instance, you can actually hear the police officers arrive at around 3 min and 48 seconds into the call. Wadell, one of the responding officers, didn’t sign off on the 911 call. You always say “I’m 10-7. I’m on the call.” Wadell does not do this. You can hear someone speaking to her, but it's in the background and muffled. She may be answering Wadell’s questions. He claims that he told her to help her son, but Darlie didn’t get the towels like he said she should. Darin claims he told Wadell to give Damon CPR, and Wadell did not. Why didn’t the trained police officer help?

The Rowlett police department had never had a case like this, and there was a lot of public pressure to solve this case—especially because it came on the heels of the Susan Smith case, which we'll discuss later on.

Terry Laber, one of the defense's expert witnesses (even though he was never called to the stand), claims that James Cron made his determinations about the crime scene after being there for only twenty minutes. You'll recall that Cron was one of the civilian investigators that the Rowlett police department brought in to help investigate the crime scene.

Evidence Collection

Evidence collection isn't a foolproof objective task. When evidence is collected, investigators decide what to look for and where. If they think someone is guilty and has committed a crime a certain way, they will likely look for evidence to corroborate that theory rather than taking all of the scene's evidence. For instance, if they thought that someone cut the window screen at the Routier house, they'd look for evidence that supports that theory. Dan Simon, a professor of law and psychology at USC, explains the bias inherent in evidence collection in The Last Defense.

James Cron, by his own admission, said that he came to the conclusion that an outsider did not commit this crime. How could he have decided that so quickly? His proclamation that this was an inside job undoubtedly influenced investigators—perhaps to the point where crucial evidence was overlooked or ignored.

Simon, the law professor, claims that "Sometimes peoples’ beliefs or conclusions or hypotheses drive their perception of the evidence." In other words, this all could have been subconscious bias. It isn't necessarily an active choice in some ways.

Additionally, the traditional chain of command was not followed in this case, meaning that there was ample opportunity for cross contamination.

And it seems worth mentioning that some facts were simply glossed over or misrepresented. For instance, the prosecution argued that someone didn't break into the house because there was no evidence—besides the slashed window screen—of a break in. According to them, there were no footprints leading to the window, and the dust on the windowsill was not disturbed. The prosecution didn't mention the the windowsill was nine to ten inches off the ground, so you wouldn't have to touch the sill to get in. And that the driveway was made of cement, so of course there wouldn't be prints!

Character Assassination/Trial by Media

The prosecution made Darlie out to seem like a superficial, vapid, vain woman who cared more about money and looks than her children. However, her friends, family, and neighbors thought very differently of her. They thought she was an exquisitely loving mother and an excellent neighbor. Julie Clark, one of her neighbors, said that Darlie always had popsicles for the kids and was just a fun, loving person. Richard Smith, another one of her attorneys, said that "Character evidence is supposed to be completely inadmissible because it allows the state to obtain a conviction without actually proving the crime itself, and it was the centerpiece of this trial."

Dan Simon, a USC professor of psychology and law, said that “Persuasion can occur in the form of evidence… but when we don't have good, rational ways to persuade one another, we appeal to emotion, innuendo, and stereotypes. They’re not the most principled ways to prove a legal case, but these are all very effective ways to persuade someone.” And this exactly what the prosecution did to Darlie: they asked about her spending habits, her breast implants, and about her social status. Kathy Cruz who wrote Dateline: Purgatory about the Routier case argues that "It wasn’t just character judgements that were used against Darlie—it was Texas character judgements.” You can be a good mother and want to be beautiful. The two are not mutually exclusive.

Richard Mosty, one of Darlie's defense attorneys, summarizes the prosecution's strategy quite effectively: “When you pile on all those things—from an evidentiary standpoint, they don’t add up to anything. But that’s not the purpose. The purpose is to create prejudice against her. So when what facts they have do come out, there’s already a tainted person in front of them.”

Questionable Tactics

The prosecution really went after Darlie as a person, rather than focusing on the facts of the case. They also showed the nurses, who gave testimony, photos of the butchered boys for no apparent reason. They boys were not treated by the nurses at Baylor. Dan Simon notes that “Exposing people to gory photos of butchered children is bound to have an effect on them. And research shows, by the way, that showing simulated jurors gory photos indeed increases their tendency to convict the person because it causes the unrecognized desire to find the culprit.” Jody Fitts, one of the Baylor nurses who treated Darlie, said that the prosecution didn't ask them any questions about the photos, nor did they treat the children—so there was really no reason to show the nurses the photos.

Blood Evidence

Glass in the Hallway: There was a call to explain how and why Darlie's blood was under broken glass, which Cron (a civilian investigator that Rowlett asked to help consult the investigation) claimed was evidence that Darlie didn't go back into the room after the glass fell because there were no cuts on her feet. However, when the inexperienced officers arrived on the scene, securing the scene wasn't the priority; saving the boys was. This means that the scene was in chaos; it's absolutely possible that the glass was knocked over during the tumult of trying to save the boys. At best, this evidence seems circumstantial. Barry Dickey, an audio expert interviewed by Forensic Files, claimed that you can tell by the audio quality that Darlie is frantically moving rooms.

Blood on the Shirt: Tom Bevel, a blood-stain expert who wrote Bloodstain Pattern Analysis, claimed that several small drops of blood on the back right shoulder of Darlie's nightshirt were indicative of excessive force that could only have been placed there by an extremely aggressive stabbing motion full of violence and hatred. He "proved" his theory by making exaggerated stabbing motions on a dummy and getting similar results. Bevel admits that he didn't take notes on how his experiment could be recreated. He says that he was instructed by Mr. Davis (the lead prosecutor) not to take notes. Laber and Bart Epstein, two forensic experts for the defense, claimed that Bevel's experiment that "proved" the blood on Darlie's shirt had to come from angrily stabbing someone was nonsense.

Bloody Footprints: Luminol revealed that some blood and bloody footprints had been cleaned up before the police got there. Darlie's blood footprints were found on top of these cleaned-up ones.

Bloody Knife Outline in the Living Room: There was bloody knife outline that Bevel claimed was likely made by someone who was profusely bleeding and holding a knife. To the prosecution, this suggested that Darlie was the one holding the knife, since her wounds would have been bleeding profusely. Darlie admits in the 911 phone call to having picked up the knife and potentially messed up the fingerprints.

Lack of Motive

Robbery doesn't seem to have been a motive because nothing appeared to have been taken from the scene of the crime. Insurance fraud also doesn't seem to have been a motive seeing as the boys' funerals cost more than their life insurance policies. They each had a 5K life insurance policy on them; the cost of the funeral was somewhere between 10-12K. You also don't have to prove motive in Texas.

Moving the Trial From Dallas to Kerrville

Doug Parks, Darlie's court-appointed attorney, made a mistake and requested that Darlie's trial be moved to Kerrville county instead of Dallas. Parks accidentally played into the prosecution's hands. Kerrville was notoriously conservative and has an disproportionately high murder-conviction rate. Recognizing his mistake, Parks asked for the trial to be moved back to Dallas county, but the motion was denied.

Came on the Heels of Susan Smith

Susan Smith is a woman from South Carolina who was accused of murdering her two children. She was convicted in 1995 of drowning her two sons. The case was a national sensation. Smith initially claimed that an African American man had carjacked the family and driven off with her two sons in tow. This was later proved false. She had a history of mental illness, depression, and attempted suicide. Skip Holland, interviewed on The Last Defense, argues that “Everyone was thinking that this [the Routier trial] was the Dallas version of that [the Susan Smith case].” So the public's perception (including the potential jurors') was undoubtedly colored by this crime.

Defensive Wounds

The prosecution claimed that Darlie's wounds were self-inflicted and superficial. One of her wounds was a slash to the throat that came with 2cm of her carotid artery. Your carotid artery is one of your major blood vessels that supplies blood to your brain. According to at least one study, you don't typically stab yourself in the neck if you're trying to fake wounds. An in-depth study with graphic photos demonstrates some of the differences between self-inflicted and assault- or accident-inflicted wounds. It seems unlikely that Darlie's wounds were self-inflicted.

The Diary Entry

Darlie wrote in her diary about contemplating suicide. In The Last Defense, Greg Davis says, “Mothers don’t usually contemplate suicide, either.” And this simply isn't true. Postpartum depression is a well-documented and researched—and legitimate—thing that affects many women. Cheryl Meyer, a psychologist and author who wrote Mothers Who Kill, says that postpartum depression is pretty common, and it doesn't necessarily translate into murdering your children. She goes on to say that “I don’t see anything in there about harming the children or taking them out of the future equation.”

The Bloody Sock

There was a bloody sock found about two streets away. The sock did have Damon and Darin's blood on it, and the sock was one of Darin's from the utility room. That means that the sock was present at the time of the murders; however, the prosecution never explained how the sock got there (or how Darlie would have had the time to run down the alley, plant the sock, and get back to the house before the police arrived). Why would an intruder take a sock but leave the murder weapon? Why would someone leave the sock in plain sight?

Single Fiberglass Fiber

Investigators found a single fiberglass fiber on the bread knife that was in the knife block. The only fiberglass source that they could find in the vicinity was the window screen that was cut. In some ways, this suggests that the knife may have been used to cut the screen, implicating the Routiers. However, another expert notes that single fibers are notoriously mobile. It could have come from anywhere and just settled there, including the fact that it could have migrated from the window screen after it had been cut and gone into the knife block. If investigators dusted the screen first and then dusted the knives, it's possible that a single fiber could have been transferred from the screen to the knife. This is why alleging things based on a single fiber is tenuous at best.

Inconsistent Testimony

Darlie was treated at Baylor hospital, and the nurses who treated her gave inconsistent testimony. In their notes, the nurses note that Darlie is sobbing and asking about her children. On the stand, several of the nurses called her "whiney," which is a very specific word choice. When questioned, the nurses said:

Nurse Diane Hollon: “We were supposed to meet at 12:00 noon in Toby’s room.”
Doug Mulder: “And who’s ‘we’?”
Hollon: “Everybody, all the Baylor people.”

This is called "preparing the witness," and the ethics of it are a bit questionable. There's a pretty thin line between preparing and coaching. It seems possible, given the specific use of language that wasn't noted anywhere in the original nursing notes, that they may have been coached to say these things or use this language. Why would medical professionals call someone who had just been viciously attacked "whiney"?

Birthday Party Footage

The birthday party film that was viewed by the jury showed Darlie, family, and friends celebrating his birthday near her son's grave. It did not show the hours previous to that scene where Darlie sobbed and grieved over the graves with her husband Darin. Why was the entire footage not shown? In The Last Defense, a 2018 docu-series about the Routier murders, juror number eight claimed that Darlie's actions were "disgusting" and that "they wouldn't have liked this." How does she know? She isn't the expert on these children. The prosecutor also claimed to be "sickened" by her behavior. But trying to be normal in the face of overwhelming tragedy doesn't seem that unrealistic. Dr. Gregory Davis says that there are essentially as many manifestations of grief as there are human beings (The Last Defense). Darin also said that "We chose the song ‘Gansta’s Paradise’ for their funeral because it was their favorite song. We really didn’t think twice about whether or not it was appropriate—it was still their favorite song… that’s how we wanted to honor them."

Unidentified Fingerprints

A bloody fingerprint taken from her living room coffee table was demonstrated by no less than three experts to not belong to anyone living in her home. Two more fingerprints in the utility room and door leading to the garage were also shown to not belong to Darlie, anyone in the family, or anyone investigating the crime. Darlie thinks the murderer escaped the home after attacking her and her two sons. The court will not grant the evidential hearing necessary to investigate and evaluate this evidence.

Taken from the utility room door is a patent bloody fingerprint—this is the first one. Forensic fingerprint analyst Glenn Langenburg positively proved that the prints do not belong to Darlie. Robert Lohnes also claimed that the fingerprint did not belong to Darlie. Her exclusion indicates that an unknown third party not only deposited this print, but deposited it in blood on the night of the murders.

In addition, Langenburg currently is conducting a second examination of the bloody fingerprint on the utility room door to determine whether Darin Routier can also be excluded as the source of this print. If, as Darlie expects, Darin Routier is not the source of this print, Darlie definitively will have demonstrated that an unknown third party deposited two separate fingerprints, one of them in the victims' blood, while fleeing the scene on the night of the murders.

How Long Would it Take to Make all These Wounds?

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Were these wounds self inflicted?
Were these wounds self inflicted? | Source

How do you feel?

Do you think without a reasonable doubt that Darlie is guilty?

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Injuries Authentic?

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She was a genius if she planned this one. So real looking.  Did she do this?Or this?Why would she put a planned bruise here, I wonder?Seems like a slight turn would be a clearer picture, doesn't it?
She was a genius if she planned this one. So real looking.
She was a genius if she planned this one. So real looking.
Did she do this?
Did she do this?
Or this?
Or this?
Why would she put a planned bruise here, I wonder?
Why would she put a planned bruise here, I wonder?
Seems like a slight turn would be a clearer picture, doesn't it?
Seems like a slight turn would be a clearer picture, doesn't it?
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I Believe That Darlie Deserves a New Trial

It is impossible to believe how much trouble the legal system will go to to make things turn out the way they want. She lost everything that day. She lost two children to a vicious murder, and she cannot even get back her youngest son. The evidence presented against her was circumstantial at best.

My View of Her Changed As I Got More Evidence

When I saw Darlie dancing around her children's graves, spraying silly string, laughing, and acting so happy I thought, "of course, she killed those babies." I was filled with hate, seeing her acting this way and those babies of hers, murdered and in the ground beneath her.

I can't say that I accept this behavior even now. People are different, and I know they are. It still doesn't make them guilty of murder. I really felt so guilty the more I listened, read, and learned. I am not the only one with a change of mind.

With Darlie, what I did not see was the same as what others did not see: proof. How long will our rotten, dirty judicial system keep getting by with having their say—right or wrong—and hiding information to make trials go the way they want? Why do they continually do this? What I and the jury did not see was Darlie's horrible cut and bruised black arms and hands—defensive wounds, without a doubt.

I have read many true crime books, and it seems like obscuring information and twisting it is almost a common thing. The law wants to solve a crime so quickly that some idiot decides how it happened and then makes sure it looks that way.

Here's Why I Began to Doubt This Case

There are many things missing in this case.

  • The screen that was mis-reported as being cut from the inside.
  • Possible improper read-back of testimony to the jury by the court reporter.
  • The pictures of Darlie's cuts and bruises on her arms which were taken when she was hospitalized the night of the murders.
  • The prosecution's refusal to provide access to any evidence in their custody in the case.
  • A lack of sufficient DNA testing.
  • Some writers who have interviewed Darlie Routier have decided to help her fight to get a new trial. Since reporting their opinions on her situation, they report that their ability to visit her has been blocked or made so inconvenient that little can be accomplished.
  • During the trial investigators invoked their Fifth Amendment rights against self-incrimination during cross examination, preventing the defense from rebutting their testimony. Why? This alone would be reason for disbelief and a new trial!

Video Resources, Sources, and Further Information

If you are looking for documentaries and further resources, here are some helpful videos.

  • Forensic Files Season 4 Episode 1 explores the Routier case in a more or less even-handed way, but ultimately seems to believe that she did murder her children.
  • The Last Defense is a docu-series, and the first four episodes explore the Routier case in meticulous detail.
  • Ashleigh Banfield of CNN discusses how she was there for the original trial, thought Darlie had to be guilty, and then saw a show that cast serious doubt on her guilt.
  • Darlie's case was also investigated by a show called The Investigators.
  • 20/20 ran a segment in 1999 and updated it in 2000 called "Her Own Flesh and Blood" that is a strong investigation of what was missed and glossed over.
  • Barbara Davis, the author of Precious Angels, walks through what she argues are 14 myths of the trial.

© 2010 Pollyannalana

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  • JustinCase976 profile image

    JustinCase976 

    10 hours ago

    I wanted to share this link for those who would like a better understanding of crime scenes, fingerprinting, and AFIS

    https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/Publications/abstract.as...

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    rosey1111 

    2 days ago

    No it doesn't happen all the time. What happens all the time is BLOOD is spread, easily. You can't just wipe it off and run away, if you're running away, as Darlie states, you don't have time to clean your self off.

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    JustinCase976 

    2 days ago

    The Dallas PD has about eight different divisions i.e. central, south central, northeast, etc. It looks like Central Dallas is the closest division to the Frank Crowley Courts Building, where we will be marching. The number is 214-670-4413.

    The Dallas County Sheriff's office is actually located in the building itself. Their number is 214-653-3450.

    Dallas County DA Faith Johnson's office is also located in the building. The number is 214-653-3600.

    Make those phones ring off the hook, ladies!

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    RealMForbes 

    2 days ago

    Hi Polly. That is a great idea my friend. I think calling and writing online articles are the best way to help Darlie. I am thinking of writing an open letter to Darlie where I directly bring attention the drugs and the affairs with Jodi Cotner, Karen Neal, and Dana. I talked about this with my sister and we both agree we have to let everyone know the truth about Darin and his devil worshiping and murderous past. I have to work, but my sister just lays around all day doing nothing. So she will try and go to the protest.

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    Pollyannalana 

    2 days ago from US

    I just had an idea. Is there a number ones who cannot go could call? Drive them crazy with phone calls, maybe two or three numbers at the police near this protest? Or wherever appropriate. Doesn't that seem a good idea?

    It might make them bothered more than by the protest. I would sure do it and get the numbers around to hundreds online.

    Make a loud noise altogether!

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    Pollyannalana 

    2 days ago from US

    Thank you!!!

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    JustinCase976 

    2 days ago

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    Pollyannalana 

    3 days ago from US

    Justin - No I have heard nothing about that! That is so thrilling to hear. I bet Darlie is excited about it too.

    No I will not be able to be there but I would love to and will be getting in on keeping touch with this happening as closely as I can.

    Please share the experience with us when you get back!

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    JustinCase976 

    3 days ago

    The TV was on in the room; he could see and recognize his mother.

    "All that blood" came mostly from Darlie and was shed after she stood up and began moving around, after the intruders had left. A common misconception is that the killers would have tracked blood throughout the house and outside, but that's simply not the case. The boys' bleeding was more internal than external. Even one of the state's expert witnesses conceded that an intruder would not necessarily have been particularly bloody.

    It is possible for a person or persons to exit through the screen without leaving trace evidence. It happens all the time; that's why investigators have so many cold cases. Sometimes there's just nothing to work with.

    Darlie's bloody footprints were indeed everywhere, including in front of the sink. Please check your facts again.

    Again, the sock was not planted. Refer to above re tracking blood.

    Darin & the glass: I've already addressed this in a previous comment.

    Are you telling us that with one child dead and the other dying, you'd waste precious seconds running upstairs to see for yourself that the baby was okay? She knew Darin had been upstairs in the same room with Drake. It was a safe assumption that he was unharmed just as Darin was, so yes, top priority was to get an ambulance there. And for the record, as soon as she ended the call with 911, the first thing she did was ask about Drake.

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    rosey1111 

    3 days ago

    If the house was dark, he wouldn't know who it was.

    I actually think it is 3 people

    Darlie

    Darin and another person. With all that blood, blood would've been found outside.

    No way anyone could go out the cut screen without leaving something

    If you're running out of the house, through the screen, you are going to leave evidence

    And her footprints that showed up with the luminol, were her footprints anywhere else besides the kitchen sink

    So, the question is, how was the sock planted? Anyone inside the house would have left some type of blood reroute to plant the sock.

    Was Darin outside? Because no way he heard a glass break from upstairs. That is just an excuse as to why he awakened

    I know if my 2 sons were stabbed, I'd immediately be thinking of my 3rd, mother's instinct, and would have run up the stairs, because I'd want to know what happened to my baby

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    JustinCase976 

    3 days ago

    Agreed Polly, he wouldn't have gone anywhere near her if she was the one who hurt him.

    Have you heard about the march/protest that's being held in front of the Frank Crowley Building in Dallas? The march will be held on October 12th-14th and the purpose is to urge the authorities to finally upload unidentified fingerprint 85j into IAFIS in the hopes of finding a match. The more bodies present, the better for Darlie. I just booked my flight; I hope you will be able to make it.

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    Pollyannalana 

    4 days ago from US

    My main point here is to people who think Darlie stabbed them. He would not be seeking help from her if she had hurt him I am sure but I have read or heard nowhere that he sought help from his father.

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    JustinCase976 

    6 days ago

    Polly, I'm not trying to be argumentative, but I do believe that Darin and Darlie concentrated mainly on Devon since he was not breathing. Damon had been injured in his back; they may have been worried about spinal injuries if they moved him in any way. He was breathing on his own, so there was no point to doing CPR on him. In that situation, I feel that Devon would be their main focus. Darin was desperately trying to get oxygen flowing in his lifeless body so that he would not suffer brain damage, had he lived. In the meantime, I think they were both just praying Damon could hold on long enough for the paramedics to get there. As a parent, I'm sure it was an agonizing decision, but if I were in that position, I think I would have done the same.

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    Pollyannalana 

    7 days ago from US

    I think a very important thing to look at is that one little boy who was calling for his mother's help. He saw who stabbed him I am sure since he lived to walk around and come for his mother and that would never be if she had stabbed him. Wonder if he ever goes toward his dad who seems to be so desperately avoiding helping him?

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    Pollyannalana 

    7 days ago from US

    True Justin or Darin may have ran out to dispose of it and missed the drain.

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    Pollyannalana 

    7 days ago from US

    rosey - If I am not mistaken there was blood of one of the boys on the sock which made it virtually impossible for her to have stabbed him before taking a lone sock down the alley because of the time frame of all it would take to poke and stab herself in so many places and slice her throat in such a precise way as to miss dying by a fraction of an inch. It was estimated I believe for a ten minute time frame for all of that to happen.

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    JustinCase976 

    7 days ago

    There were three intruders to start with, but when they realized people were in the house and the attack started, one of them took off in their vehicle and left the other two behind. This is why two men were spotted by Darlene Potter between two and three in the morning, walking down Dalrock road (one of them in his bare feet). The first guy brought a knife with him; it was his trusty old hunting knife and he never went without it. He's the one who cut the screen and stabbed Devon. The second guy went for the kitchen butcher knife as soon as he realized there were people in the house. He's the one who attacked Darlie and Damon. Two different men, two different knives. This was not random either; these men were sent there with the understanding that no one would be home. The Routiers were actually scheduled to fly out to Altoona the following week.

    What about the 911 call does not make sense? I'm not being facetious either, I'm genuinely curious.

    Rosey, I think you can tell from my comments that I am an educated, intelligent person. I did not just make this scenario up out of thin air; I have studied this case in great depth with a logical and analytical mind. I did not come to this conclusion overnight.

    As for the glass breaking, I really don't think Darin heard that at all. I think he THINKS he remembers it, which does not make him a liar. That kind of thing is actually pretty common. I don't know if you've ever studied psychology, but the subconscious is fascinating and powerful.

    I will always believe she is innocent. This belief doesn't have so much to do with her personally as it does the fact that I believe, with good reason, that a trio of lowlifes broke into that house in June of 1996 and murdered two little boys. I'm also the child of a homicide detective and a forensic psychiatrist (terrifying, I know), so please take into consideration that I DO know a little something.

    PS: I agree with you 100% about Diane Downs.

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    rosey1111 

    7 days ago

    Right, and why didn't she get stabbed in the same manner as the kids. Self-inflicted. Of course it had to be at night, she couldn't run and drop the sock in the daylight, too many people up and around. And we're supposed to believe a murderer just happened to drop his sock. Listen to the 911 call. Makes no sense. Hey no one said she was brilliant. Oh and if she couldn't stab 2 kids at once, why would an intruder try to do so. So why are there 2 different versions of the glass breaking. Because LIARS can't keep their stories straight. Sorry but her story is so full of bs, so glad the jury saw right through her. Too many variables? She probably thought it would be easy. She sure didn't drop any of her blood on the sofa, where she supposedly was attacked. Guilty Guilty Guilty let her rot in jail like Diane Downs

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    JustinCase976 

    7 days ago

    Pre-meditated, huh? In the middle of the night, with Darin right upstairs? That's a brilliant plan. What if the baby woke up and he had to come downstairs and warm up a bottle? She can't stab 2 people at once; what if one of the kids had woken up and made it upstairs? There's too many variables that could have gone wrong for any of this to be premeditated. And I'm supposed to believe that she purposely spilled blood on that white carpet? Get a clue.

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    rosey1111 

    7 days ago

    And Darlie has fooled all of her supporters. Guilty Guilty Guilty. Oh yes, so dazed to follow a stranger. Give me a break. Oh yeah let me pick up a bloody knife, oh yeah. Nobody would pick up a bloody knife. You'd be screaming seeing a bloody knife. Pre-meditated murder

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    JustinCase976 

    8 days ago

    When Darlie first got off the couch and followed after the man, she wasn't waking from sleep, she was regaining consciousness. She would have been dazed, groggy, and not quite sure if she was dreaming or not. Following after him would have been subconscious and automatic, since she had no sense of danger at that moment (hey, who are you? where are you going? what's going on?). It's the same thing with regard to picking up the knife (what the?...this doesn't belong here). Even once she turned on the lights, she may have been frozen in shock for a few seconds while trying to process the fact that her kids were hurt and covered with blood, and she was covered in blood, and oh my God there was a man, and a knife, and he...DARIN!!!!

    It's fine for you to tell me what you think YOU would do in that situation, but you can't say what Darlie would or would not have done, because you're not her and you were not there.

    Non-supporters always vacillate between the idea of Darlie being a criminal mastermind, and her being dumb AF. She's going to take this sock, dabbed with just a smidge of blood, run 75 yards in her bare feet (or even more ludicrous, in Darin's sneakers), run back to the house (all the while risking being seen by Bill Gorsuch across the street, who usually gets home around 2am.) So, now she's planted this sock, which by the way, there is no guarantee will either be found by police or linked to the crime scene. And not once did she ever mention the word sock. Never says, "he had this sock on his hand" or "he put a sock over my mouth." But yet, somehow, her IQ magically jumps up a good 25 points momentarily and suddenly she's sophisticated enough to think of stabbing herself in her dominant arm, all the way to the bone, and slices her throat with her non-dominant hand, miraculously missing her carotid artery by 2mm? Nope, nope, nope. No way Jose.

    Darlie may not be able to fool you, but the prosecution sure did.

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    rosey1111 

    8 days ago

    The 'logical' reason for Darlie to plant a sock, to make it look as if someone else dropped a sock running away. Yes, not very good thinking, but as I said, NONE of her blood was on it. She hadn't cut herself yet. She started screaming her blood-curdling scream AFTER she cut herself. Give me a logical explanation why she didn't yell for her husband FIRST thing, ESPECIALLY not knowing how her baby was. Mother's instinct, you'd be running upstairs to your baby. Call 911, not walk after a murderer. She can't fool me

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    Lameduck1 

    9 days ago

    If the crown is so certain that Darlie is guilty the get the execution over. They aren't only playing with Darlie's mind, she has a family and a Son who has not had personal contact with his Mom since he was 8 months old. Something wonky went on in that house that night and I think Darin was involved.

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    JustinCase976 

    9 days ago

    Still waiting for one person, anyone, who can offer a LOGICAL reason for Darlie to "plant" that sock...

    The sock was not planted. It fell out of his pocket as he was running away.

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    rosey1111 

    10 days ago

    Guilty Guilty Guilty

    She didn't scream for her husband right away.

    She planted the sock and cut herself after the fact

    She isn't consistent with her statements. And who would pick up the knife. No Way. Guilty Guilty Guilty

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    Pollyannalana 

    2 weeks ago from US

    Meggagirl - I suppose he wanted to get on with his life and remarry, which I believe he has.

    Why they did not immediately suspect him beats me. Perhaps he dropped little comments to make them suspect her and by the time they saw they were duped it was too late and they did not want to look stupid.

    She should get a new trial simply on the way they portrayed her to a group of people they especially chose that would charge her with murder simply because they thought she was a low life.

    That is a ploy often used and should not be allowed. In an upstanding court, it would not.

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    Meggagirl 

    2 weeks ago

    I believe she is innocent she desreves a new trail they did not prove she did it. They never looked into the father and why did they get divorced if darin said she did not do it then why is he getting a divorce from her and not standing by her why did they get divorced

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    Pollyannalana 

    3 weeks ago from US

    James, I agree Darlie is innocent but Darin? Maybe he did not actual do the killing but what do the police know on him to take his only living son from him and he doesn't even protest? They know the truth now but it would cost them too much, but if they left his son with him knowing he was the murderer, well how much more would that cost them? There are a few there who know the truth after they railroaded Darlie...surely now more than one has shared that truth. It will come out one day, even if too late for Darlie.

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    Pollyannalana 

    3 weeks ago from US

    lafoxy-that could have meant suicide and really, what a plan stabbing and cutting herself, then managing to slit her throat within an inch of her life and running down an alley to take one sock...who can honestly believe this crap? What did she have to gain? What did Darin have to gain? Helloooo

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    lafoxy 

    3 weeks ago

    At the end of the show, the prosecutors showed her diary entry dated a day before the murders. "Dear Lord forgive me for what I'm about to do" - that is a confession in my books. Guilty as charged.

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    James R Finchum 

    3 weeks ago

    First, I have researched this case beginning right after Darlie's cinviction. Secondly, TJean Jenkins is absurdly flawed in her post. Darin was not in the basement of the house when this occurred.

    Darin was asleep upstairs in the bed with their infant. Darlie met him at the base of the stairs when he ran downstairs after she screamed.

    Darin had nothing to do with his son's death. Also a mens athletic sock was found 75 yards away from the Routier home in the alley with Devon's blood on it. This piece of evidence was said to have been planted by Darlie. In order for her to have done this, she would have had to run 75 yards down to place it, then 75 yards back. Thats a football field and a half.

    This woman is innoncent and needs to be given a FAIR trial.

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    TJeanJenkins 

    3 weeks ago

    I agree with you Polly. Except I never doubted Darlie. My sister and I knew write away that Darin committed this crime. It is all over his face. He even looks like a heroine junkie who worships Satan.

    When Steven Cooper told me last week that Darin had failed 5 lie detector tests and 3 drug tests it just proved what I knew this whole time. It also explains why he did 8 fake CPRs on Damon after he came upstairs from the basement.

    God Bless you Polly

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    Pollyannalana 

    3 weeks ago from US

    Deb, same here, I was sure she was guilty from the news broadcasts about her and the silly string video. Then I found out about the other grave site video where you could see how destraught she was and then I saw her and Darin talking about their boys and it was day and night. She was full of love, he was full of something but it was not love, it disgusted me, so cold. I knew then she did not hurt her boys and although I did not at that time suspect him of the murder I certainly do now.

    He did it for the insurance money on her and perhaps he did not intend for the boys to die but they woke when whatever drug was put across Darlie's face did not prevent a struggle beforehand causing all her injuries and waking them.

    How he lives with himself I just have no idea but you can see and feel the evil in him...well I can. It is sickening.

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    Deb McDonald 

    3 weeks ago

    In the beginning I thought she was guilty. I have seen several documentaries on this case. The jury did not see the pictures of her injuries. As for the silly string video......It did not show that Darlie and her family had a memorial service beforehand. I am a big fan of The First 48. I have seen several people use silly string at their loved ones grave.

    Also, there were fingerprints that did not belong to family or friends on the glass coffee table.

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    JustinCase976 

    3 weeks ago

    Does anyone else find it interesting that after putting Darlie on death row, prosecutor Toby Shook opened a criminal defense law firm and one of his partners was Doug Mulder's son? Makes you wonder just how tight Toby and Doug were during the trial.

    Just some good ole boys/never meanin no harm...

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    TRUEKezzy 

    3 weeks ago

    Thank you for letting me know and nice to hear you are doing ok Polly. These maggots have really made a mess of things. I hope you have a good time with your company. Darin and his evil Satanist religion are going to be exposed very soon thanks to people like us.

    God Bless

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    Pollyannalana 

    3 weeks ago from US

    Mrsdoubt - You have a right to your opinion but anyone putting rhyme or reason on paper I see no reason they would not point to the one with the most...or anything to gain, and that was Darin. Not Darlie and I am sure the this police department has been aware of that for some time. If Darlie Kee and Darin had not run around making a farce of the whole thing, Darlie may could have been helped by now. I have a hard time understanding why no one has even really tried, there is no solid evidence against her and it is an impossible plot they say she maneuvered with all she had to do in such a limited time and if her lawyer had of pushed and made more of that the jury would have seen she was not guilty of this...just because she went to a strip club. Prosecutors can do a good job picking juries and these did for sure getting Darlie life and maybe death for having low morals. They sure didn't mind casting the first stone and apparently have no trouble living with themselves.

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    Pollyannalana 

    3 weeks ago from US

    Sorry Jo, I really have had no time for anything and it may stay that way at least through the weekend since I have company. Will get back as soon as I can and hopefully with more time.

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    RealMForbes 

    4 weeks ago

    Polly, I would like to apologize to you for these maggots with fake profiles affecting this article with the nonsense. I am smarter than these people. My education puts me in a position to explain what really happened and Darin and Kee have been attacking me ever since.

    But I did speak with Steven Cooper recently about this case. He told me once again that Darin is under direct suspicion based on the evidence that I gave him, and the drugs that he gave Darlie. We need to stand strong and continue to put pressure on the state of Texas to do the right thing. More and more people are reading my articles and your articles.

    We can do this Polly!

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    Jo Douglas 

    4 weeks ago from Canada

    Hi Polly, I hope your doing good. I miss talking to you. Please don't give up on your article. I am sorry my issues with these stalkers affected your article. I hope to talk to you soon my friend.

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    stunning 1 

    4 weeks ago

    Angie totally agree. As for Mrsdoubt You're he the brightest crayon in the box. If Darin lied that's PERJURY. Good god! I'm going to enjoy what the night had left..

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    Mrsdoubt 

    4 weeks ago

    You're wasting your time with the letters and petition. President Trump can only pardon Federal inmates not baby killers who are on DR and he's a family man so he wouldn't do anything for Darlie.

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    Mrsdoubt 

    4 weeks ago

    The only "new trial" Darlie is ever going to get is to be tried for Devon's murder so be careful what you wish for.

    Darin is never going to be arrested because it was Darlie who murdered the children and not him. But you keep on trashing him and be prepared to answer his lawsuit for defamation of character. Keep it up and you will force him to tell what he knows--that Darlie murdered the kids and he lied to cover for her

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    JustinCase976 

    5 weeks ago

    OMG...I guess I didn't get it, but I do now. I have officially entered the twilight zone.

    ***slowly backing away...***

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    RealMForbes 

    5 weeks ago

    WHY SHOULD DARIN ROUTIER BE INVESTIGATED AND CONSIDERED A SUSPECT IN THE MURDER OF DEVON AND DAMON ROUTIER?

    1. Darin made changes to his insurance after he beat her.

    2. Darin was sleeping with Jodi Cotner, Karen Neal, Dana and others

    3. Darin lied about his car not working.

    4. Darin is a Satinist

    5. Darin failed 14 poly tests.

    6. Darin lied about being in the basement b4 Darlie dialed 911.

    7. Darin lied when he said he did not know Karen Neal (His secret lover) planted the sock.

    8. Darin lied about Drake being in the room with the dog

    9. Darin lied about not liking his aunt Sandy.

    10. Darin lied about being the one who wore her panties. Pervert!.

    11. Darin lied about shaking Waddell's hand.

    12. Darin lied about the table being from IKEA.

    13. Darlie lied to police about the crystal meth he was selling and using before the attack.

    14. Darin lied about painting the gate.

    15. Darin lied to Davis about the window being a gift from Aunt Sandy.

    16, Darin lied about sleeping in the nude.

    17. Darin lied about going to the medic van and asking about Drake's diaper

    18. Darin lied when he said Darlie had no pulse and that was the reason he didnt help her.

    19. Darin lied about only doing cpr on Devon once. He did 14 CPRs on Damon

    20. Darin has never admitted to being a Satanist pedofile.

    21. Darin lied about Darlie being 5 foot 9 inches when he came out of his room.

    22. Darin lied about not knowing Darlie was Jewish at birth.

    23. Darin lied about parking his car on the street to make it safer for old ladies walking the block.

    24. Darin was never investigated by the Secret Service for tax fraud.

    25. Police found cocaine, crystal meth, herion, weed, ludes, acid, shrooms, PCP, and crack in Darins bedroom during the search.

    26. Darin was never drug tested in Florida

    27. Darins bloody jeans were found in the black sedan 3 days later

    28 Darin couldnt be excluded from the DNA on the cap found at the Walmart.

    29. Darin didnt dispute the insurance company when they refused to pay unless he signed over custody of Drake.

    30. Darin buried his boys with Backstreet Boys posters and GI Joe toys

    31. Darin picked a violin player instead of a traditional pianist for his sons funeral.

    32. Darin showed signs of being sexually obsessed with Jodi Cotner

    33. Darin made sickening jokes about Greg Davis's wife.

    34. The first phone call Darin made was to his mother to tell her about the tragedy.

    35. Darin had killed before.

    36. Darin tried to deny the sock in the alley was a size 9.

    37, Blood was found by his urine sample in the garage.

    38. Darin could have gotten to and from the bathroom to his bedroom without Devon seeing him.

    39. Darin couldnt be excluded from the finger print in blood on the doorway to the Jeep Cherokee

    40. Darin fit the description Darlie gave to match.com when she was looking for a boyfriend.

    41. Darin kept changing his story about who's name Darlie screamed out, first it was Drake and then it was Kee

    42. Darin locked the cat up earlier the night before the attack.

    43. Darin lied about the dog being sick with the flu because he knew the intruder.

    44. Darin lied about Darlie asking him for a a new car hours before the attack.

    45. Darin washed up and kissed his girlfriend Karen Neal while he was destroying evidence while his family was dead and dying.

    46. Darin told a cps worker the boys got in the way of his soap opera TV time.

    47. Darin moved in with Darlie Kee and continued to live with her even after the arrest.

    48. Darin promised to make Barbara Jovell his new wife, but changed his mind after the murders.

    49. The night before the attack Darin admitted he was in the garage painting.

    50. Darin was turned down for a $5,000,000 dollar loan just before the attack, he lied by saying the loan was for Dana to get a new car.

    51. Darin was broke yet he hired his employees brother to come in just two days before the attack to help Darlie with the house and kids, and she just happen to witness this pink car Darin and Jovell had been staging.

    52. Darin parked his car on the street after he came back from Jodi Cotner trying to make it appear nobody was home.

    53. Darin was the one who brought up the shards of glass in the ice show.

    54. Darin was broke yet her hired Karen to work with him at the shop giving him alone time with her.

    55. Darin just happen to take Darlie's car to work leaving her stranded with no vehicle so she couldnt check up on him and Jodi Cotner.

    56. Darin lied about Darlie planning to take a trip to Moscow.

    57. Darin lied about the family vacaction he was planning for the 31st of November, he was broke and didnt have the money to go.

    58. Darin was losing everything and now he was looking at paying support for 14 other people on top of supporting himself.

    59. Shortly after Darlie was arrested Darin did an interview where he said he was tired of reporters askiing him to help Drake, he wanted to write a book and tell his side of the story.

    60. Darin moved in with a 15 year old girl he cheated on Darlie with.

    61. Darin lied to police about what woke him up when the house caught fire earlier that year.

    62, Darin has continued to change his hairstyle over the years.

    63 Darin contracted HIV and cancer, where Darlie didnt

    64 Darin gave Darlie a glass of milk right before she went to bed that night, she became tired right after and only one glass was broken and the glass she drank from that night was never shown in any of the pics.

    65. Darin lied in the last interview claiming he had been searching for the orange car weeks after the murders, knowing he set that car up with Sarah Jackson.

    66. Darin changed his appearance right before he was to tesify, he cut off his eyelashes so his description didnt fit the description of the intruder.

    67. Darin noticed Darlies missing panties and then made up the possible rape and intruder theory to the media.

    68. Right after Darin returned to the house after leaving when Waddell got there, he never released the dog from the basement.

    69. At 2:35am officer Walling came in and he said Darin was just standing in the living room, but he was red face and out of breath, as though he had been running, further proving Waddell was telling the truth when he said Darin left the home.

    70. Darin ran over to karens at 2:40am, screaming and yelling putting on a show that he was desperate for help when he knew police and medics were already there on the scene. Karen herself was sexually turned on by Darins behavior.

    71. There is not one shred of evidence to prove Darin did anything to try and sell the house.

    71. Darin used Devons dead body to decieve the officer into believing he was trying to save his family. Darin knew Devon died seconds into the 911 call, he knew Devon was gone when he did that 14th cpr on Devon almost an hour later when Waddell arrived.

    71. Darin lied about not knowing Damon was hurt, he lied about Damon having no pulse, and he lied about his cpr training teaching him not to turn Damon over after he claimed he had no pulse.

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    Angie-St 

    5 weeks ago

    I told you stunning1 and Polly. This Kezzy-Jo Douglas person is not all there upstairs mentally. Multiple personality disorder and schizophrenia. She creates these different profiles and then will have an entire conversation with him/herself for YEARS debating nonsense. Cocaine, crystal meth, Darlie Kee selling her own daughter out, pokemon drugs, racist attacks, 20 fake cpr, Darin devil worship etc etc etc.

    The pokemon thing is not even new. Jo Douglas said there was a new specialist examining the Dna named Professor Oak. I looked him up and its another pokemon character. This isnt funny. Two children were murdered.

    I think Darlie is innocent personally, but Kezzy/Jo Douglas/Jean Jenkins/Mforbes/...... Frankly make us all look like morons with only a 4th grade education with these crazy theories. There is no drugs or multiple CPRs in the case. And Darin was not having an affair with sisters, neighbors, and nurses.

    Block Jo Douglas and all these crazy mirror profiles Polly. How can I prove to you that Kezzy and Jo are the same person doing this?

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    stunning 1 

    5 weeks ago

    I'm not going to waste my time here anymore if these trolls are left to comment.They are talking about Pokemon and Crystal meth and Poly you know about the case and they are just trolling you....

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    stunning 1 

    5 weeks ago

    Polly. Please delete this Kezzy. The drug and the state they are referring to are POKEMON. Good god. This person is a troll and needs to be deleted..

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    Jo Douglas 

    5 weeks ago from Canada

    RealMForbes JUST STOP ALREADY WITH THE FAKE PROFILES. WHY DONT YOU SHOW SOME RESPECT FOR POLLY? SAD THAT I HAVE BLOCKED YOU EVERYWHERE AND THE ONLY PLACE YOU HAVE LEFT TO STALK ME IS HERE ON HUBPAGES. YOU HAVE SOME VERY SICK OBSESSIONS.

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    RealMForbes 

    5 weeks ago

    Jo Douglas, you have done so much to help Darlie. Please continue to help by writing ON TOPIC comments about the case. Polly has asked us to be positive and do what we can to help free Darlie.

    You also missed a few fake CPR attempts. You got the first 2. But here are a few more.

    -after he pulled the table off of Devon, he went over to Damon and performed CPR

    - after he hid Darlie's panty, he then went back and did another fake cpr on Damon

    -at some point he went back upstairs to put on pants. When he came downstairs again he did a fake cpr on Devon

    -the was crystal meth found in the garage. While Darlie was getting towels for officer Waddell, Darin snuck into the garage and took a hit of crystal meth. He then performed cpr on Damon to cover up his drug use.

    -after darin went to Karen's house (his secret lover) she was worried he might look guilty. She told him to make sure to perform cpr on Devon as soon as he gets back to the house. And he did.(This is also when Karen planted the sock in the alley)

    -when more police arrived Darin made sure to shove his pedofile tongue down Damons thrust l throat one more time.

    -Darlie herself said Darin did a cpr attempt on Damon right after he cleaned blood from kitchen sink. A lot of people think SHE cleaned the sink, but it was Darin trying to make Darlie look guilty.

    There are a few more fake CPR attempts that Darin made, but you get the idea. It is hard to get a complete record because Darlie was under the influence of the drug Cyndaquil. She can't remember it well.

    This has all been layed out and is under review by the court. Darin is going to be arrested before August is out MARK MY WORDS.

    Kezzy, I am sorry to hear about your cousin Willow. I am sure she did great things even tho she never graduated high school or went to college. Dont let these attacks from some dampen your spirit. It is hard fern some of us to get over the loss of a loved one. But it will get easier.

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    Jo Douglas 

    5 weeks ago from Canada

    TRUEKezzy Polly has asked you to stop with the fake profiles names. You have no respect for Polly or this article. You are willing to do anything you can to try and discredit supporters to Darlie. You are lying about statements made by me and others regarding the number of cpr attempts Darin faked on his son Devon. He did two, one at 15 seconds into the 911 call, and the second one three minutes and 45 seconds after Waddell arrived. Those are the facts so stop the lies and mocking supporters. And stop using other peoples profile names, it is disrespectful and childish

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    TRUEKezzy 

    5 weeks ago

    I would like to thank you Polly. Enough is enough with these fake profiles coming in and causing trouble.

    I wanted to say that Darlie is well aware of all of the work that is being done online getting the truth out about Darin. She has told Steven Cooper that she has read these new evidences from many of the articles are producing. And her defense team is looking hard into the 7 CPR attempts on Damon. Plus Darlie's dog and his barking is of serious concern for her appeal in court.

    Thank you Polly.

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    Pollyannalana 

    5 weeks ago from US

    Thanks everyone. Let's please start over and quit the bickering and just concentrate on new fact or ideas that can be used to free Darlie. Anything knocking each other or over the hill looney tunes will just be deleted whether you think it is fair or not, I want this an open discussion people will want to read and come in not feeling threatened by fighting and feuding so that is just how it is going to be and no use going back bringing up anything about he said she said.

    Clean slate, starting now. Freeing Darlie the ONLY objective.

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    TRUEKezzy 

    5 weeks ago

    I would like to share something personal Polly. I recently lost a member of my family. A cousin. Her name was Willow, like a willow tree. We were very very very close. She was like the sister I never had.

    Willow had a tough life. She never went to college or even high school. But she was my best friend. We lost Willow last year to a rare kidney disease. Anyway she also married an evil man just like Darlie Routier did.

    I saw my dear sweet Willow suffer physical and metal abuse by this "man". And so when I see Darlie being attacked by that evil Darin I get so frustrated. That is why I care so much about justice for Darlie. Despite the haters and maggots that attack me for telling the truth about Darin.

    But thank God that there are people like you in the world Polly. You have always been there to make sure justice is served.

    God bless you Polly.

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    TRUEKezzy 

    5 weeks ago

    JustinCase you just don't get it do you?. Darin is a satinist. All of the evidence is right there for anyone with a 4th grade IQ to see. The dog is the key to this whole case. Once we can identify that Karen Neal lied on the witness stand to protect her secret love affair with Darin, then we can show a new jury that the dog is actually a silent witness to this crime.

    And we need to get a confession out of Darin too. If we can get him to give up the names of his Satinist friends who helped kill the children, then we can get all of the pieces of this puzzle to fall in line.

    I swear these good fern nothing maggots will never stop covering for Darin's lies.

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    Jo Douglas 

    5 weeks ago from Canada

    TJeanJenkins Polly has been police and asked you to stop with the fake profiles and lies. Darin was not referred to as a satinist by anyone but you. You have come here over and over posting lies and stories that you knew were not true. Stop already. You are making a mockery of this article and this case. Its really none of your business about a persons profile or how many they use as long as they are giving the same truth. You are trying distort the facts of this case by mocking and lying about previous posts.. WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM, MAYBE SCARED THAT PEOPLE ARE FINALLY REALLIZING WHAT DARIN DID? PARDO KNEW AND HE TRIED TO TELL DARIN WAS GUILTY AND SHE SNAPPED. DARIN KEPT THE TRUTH FROM DARLIE FOR MANY YEARS, NOW THAT HE IS OUT OF THE PICTURE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO SHOW HER THE TRUTH.

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    TJeanJenkins 

    5 weeks ago

    Darlie is innocent. And while some people play childish games with fake profiles, I am going to speak the truth about Darin. Jo Douglas wrote 4 brilliant articles about the facts in this case. But these maggots won't talk about the truth. They just play childish games with fake profiles.

    How long before everybody sees that Darin is a Satinist? How many articles proving his evil must Jo write before they give Darlie a new trial?

    Darin and his lover Jodi Cotner set this whole thing up. At trial they wanted insurance in case Doug Mulder was able to mount a good defense. This was a conspiracy to make the nurses tell lies on the stand.

    Will you all please look at the evidence and stop paying attention to the games being played by Bryan st John, Sclemmons, and Perverton Wood. Jo Douglas is the real deal. All the others are fakes Polly.

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    Pollyannalana 

    5 weeks ago from US

    You could be right Jo and I did wonder but they are not putting down Darlie and what can I do? I don't know one person here personally and doubt I ever will.

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    Jo Douglas 

    5 weeks ago from Canada

    Polly, it is obvious that RealForbes and Truekezzy are fake profiles once again making up lies and stories here deliberately trying to distract anyone from finding out the facts in this case. This just shows how desperate Darin and Kee are to try and stop anyone from looking into Darin.

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    RealMForbes 

    5 weeks ago

    Yes we should all agree to stop the personal attacks. Save Darlie. No distractions from the swarm of men trying execute a young woman.

    Has anyone even examined the 911 call. It is obvious that Karen Neal taught him how to do the 9 fake CPR attempts on Damon. You can even heae Darin call Karen's name at 4:14 of the call. His son's are dieing and he is thinking about the woman he is cheating on Darlie with. I am starting to think they planned this from the beginning.

    They planned to kill Darlie and the kids before she could find out about the affair with Karen Neal. I will ask Steven Cooper to look into that as a motive for Darin in addition to all of the other evidence that we have found Polly. Jo Douglas has a few articles full of new evidence and facts. Please read them if you have not already.

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    TRUEKezzy 

    5 weeks ago

    I agree Polly. There should be no more personal attacks here. We are trying to get the truth out about Darlie and how the state of Texas railroaded an INNOCENT woman. These Darin defending maggots will stop at nothing to keep me quiet. But I will fern off any attacks from them and tell the truth about how Darin and Kee have been plotting to keep Darlie in prison even after all of the evidence is out there for all to see.

    Darin is a Satanist who got high on crystal meth and attacked his family. I have proven this time and time again. More and more people are looking at Darin thanks to you Polly. We need to keep up the pressure.

    Steven Cooper has told me that we are all really making a difference here. The state of Texas will have to buckle under the pressure at some point. The Cyndaquil found in Darlie's system should be enough for a new trial alone.

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    Jo Douglas 

    5 weeks ago from Canada

    JustinCase976 The spelling of the dogs name is not important. The character or breed of the dog is very important.

    First of all Poms are known to bark at everything, these dogs have certain characteristics about them, one being their keen strong sense of sound and smell. They do bark at every motion even if it isn't right there in the home. They sense when someone is arriving at the home let alone walking in That dog was not locked up at night, he was left in the halls to roam from room to room. But on June 5th to the early hours of June 6th Darin had him locked up so he wouldn't wake Darlie and the boys.

    Darlie and Karen both testified that dog barked at everything. Karen knew the family for years and she said he would start barking right as she was approaching the house and continued to bark until he saw her. When Darin claimed to have come down those stairs that dog never made a sound, yet when Darin went back up those stairs at three minutes into the 911 call he is heard barking for the first time. Darin then lied in his police statement by saying the reason he went upstairs was to put his jeans on, when both officer Waddell and Darlie said he already had his jeans on. The lies with Darin started months before the crime and continued on for years after, he is still lying.

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    Pollyannalana 

    5 weeks ago from US

    HP has been editing this article for weeks now, I have no idea why so long but I would like the arguing to stop and only comments about the case and allow new reader a part. I am sick of the name calling and fighting. Opinions about the case are welcome, especially anything new. Keep comments moderately short. If anyone finds anything important that should be a part of the story let me know and I will include it in the body of the story as long as there is references to back it up.

    Thank you.

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    stunning1 

    5 weeks ago

    Oh and I've commented on that Bryan guys youtube many times and called him a flat out idiot. Lol. and never was threatened by him..

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    stunning1 

    5 weeks ago

    Oh and your theory is crazy as there was like 100,00 of jewelry sitting on the counter..

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    stunning1 

    5 weeks ago

    Jo. You need help. You sound like the guy who said he killed Jon bennet. Carr. This is not uncommon in high profile cases. Anyone with any intelligence can see you may be an attention seeker. It's not uncommon. No one would talk about a "closed" case with you. You are filling the comment section with nonsense. You have sad Darrin was going to be arrested for ages. Good god! Please go see a doctor and get on some meds!

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    Jo Douglas 

    6 weeks ago from Canada

    Angie, You are a liar. I have used other profile names on other sites, but trying to convince Polly that I have deceived her is not going to fly. I have been completely honest with her, unlike yourself. Its obvious I have hit home with facts regarding Darins guilt and you are here just to distract everyone from what we are talking about here. This isn't about me or all the profile names you are using to try and discredit me. Polly is right this is about Darlie, not about me. So be respectful and stop trying to slander the people who are posting. Don't think for one minute that Polly doesn't realize the Kirk D, Jenkins and all those other profiles. Stop wasting everyones time here with your childish games

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    JustinCase976 

    6 weeks ago

    Cc, I tried to reply to your comment, but HP won't let me post anything about a certain first respondent's lies or anything about a cover up by a certain PD. Someone doesn't like what I have to say, which can only mean I've touched a nerve LOL

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    JustinCase976 

    6 weeks ago

    I see HP deleted yet another of my comments about how Waddell lied; talk about things that make you go hmmmmm. NO TRUTH FOR YOU! YOU COME BACK ONE YEAR!

    So, to all these people, or person (whatever, I really don't care) making all these posts and comments claiming they've been researching this case for years and know all the facts, and seem to have psychic knowledge of what the Routier's dog would or would not have done, I have one question: how is it that you don't even know the damn dog's name? For the record, his name was Domain, not Damian.

    Now if you'll excuse me, I have a lunch date with Darin and Darlie Kee. We need to have a brainstorming session on how we're going to make more fake profiles to discredit people on the internet *eye roll*

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    Pollyannalana 

    6 weeks ago from US

    Angie, I just really don't care what Jo does anywhere else and what other names. This article is for Darlie and I am pretty sure Jo has put many hours working on her defense, and although I do not agree with some of it I have no reason to think she is mental, but if she is we should not be talking bad about her.

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    Kirk D 

    6 weeks ago

    I guess Darin and Kee have taken over this hubpage too. The same old tired attacks against me changing my name as if that makes any difference to Darlie being railroaded by Texas. We all know that Bryan St John and Sclemmons are the ones helping Darin and Kee and stalking the rest of us just for telling the truth.

    And mocking a woman who died of cancer is just awful. These maggots will go as low as possible. But not as low as that Satinist Darin who killed his boys to satisfy his evil master in some evil ritual. And not as low as Jodi Cotner who Darin was sleeping with. He convicned her to change her story at trial to make Darlie look guilty.

    And the worst part is that Kee knew all of this but she let them throw her own daughter under the bus. She knew that Darin was screwing Basia and Karen but she said nothing to the cops. When I spoke to detective Nabors last month, he said he never knew about the affairs with Dana, Cotner, and Karen. That is because Kee hid the truth.

    As Jo Douglas has pointed out very clearly, that maggot Darin performed 12 fake CPR attempts on Damon after he stabbed him in the garage and moved his body. He did all of this to throw off police from the real killers, mainly him and his Satinist crew that were there that night. Nice try "Angie" aka Bryan St John.

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    Jean Jenkins 

    6 weeks ago

    You need to mind your business "Angie". I think that you are probably Bryan St John coming here to stir up trouble. Darlie Kee will stop at nothing to discredit me and everybody else from getting the truth out about her and what she did to Darlie. You have been stalking me for years. That is how you know what I have said and what profile names that I used. You are so sick.

    I changed my name becuase you threatened me with your gun and I have been totally honest with Polly about why I changed my name. And I will never stop telling the truth about Darin.

    He performed 8 fake CPRs on Damon to cover up what he and his Satinist gang had done to his family. And Darin was selling Crystal Meth to minors. There is a police record of this activity. He got high on Meth and then attacked Darlie and the kids. Get off your lazy but and research the case files like I did.

    JustinCase is another friend of Darin Polly. He knows that his buddy killed those boys and I have proven time and time again. I spoke to Steven Cooper about what these online bullies representing Darin are doing and it wont work. Darlie has been made aware of the efforts to keep her on death row by Darin and her mom. But like I said, Darin is going to be arrested in a matter of days now that the toxicology report has proven that she was drugged. So you maggots can put that in your pipe and smoke it.

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    JustinCase976 

    6 weeks ago

    Just an after thought: I honestly did not start commenting here to argue with or attack anyone. I have no other profiles or user names, and while I'm obviously using a pseudonym like everyone else, I'm very real and I'm steadfast in my ruling that the theory of Darlie as the killer simply doesn't hold water. There is too much reasonable doubt to justify this woman's sentence. If I'm "desperate" to do anything, it is to see this colossal travesty of justice set right ASAP

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    Angie 

    6 weeks ago

    Hey Pollyannalana,

    Your article is too good to have this circus in the comment section. And I'm not going to waste my time engaging directly with Kezzy-Jo here.

    But I hope that you notice a few things.

    1. Kezzy-Jo has just admitted to you that she has been coming on your site and other sites saying the same thing DAILY FOR. AT LEAST 4 YEARS about this case under 9+ different names. This behavior is abnormal to say the least. It is obsessive. Why would a sane person do such a thing?

    2. Kezzy-Jo creates this whole elaborate and frankly RIDICULOUS explanation for why she did this, and feels compelled to write a 5000-word essay to sell you this nonsense. Ask yourself Pollyannalanna.....If Bryan St John is threatning you and your family with a "gun," WHAT THE HELL is changing your online alias from "Kezzy" to "Mforbes" going to accomplish? ESPECIALLY, when you consider the fact that Kezzy-Jo continues to communicate with Brian st John (as recently as a week ago on Youtube)! Where is the police report? Where is the compliant to Youtube against him? Where is the quote or link to the actual threat he made? How does calling yourself "Jo Douglas" protect you from being hurt by this person and his "gun" threats? This is classic paranoia.

    3. Why would Kezzy-Jo DELETE her accounts? If you are going to change your name, fine but why do you have to delete the articles that you wrote. Ask yourself Pollyannalana.....would you delete this article willingly because of "threats" from Bryan St John? I highly doubt it because that would accomplish nothing and be RIDICULOUS.

    4. Here is the real reason for the name changes and account deletions. Kezzy-Jo is a racist and a bigot and her profiles have been reported and removed by Hubpages, Youtube, and Facebook MANY times. So she creates a new profile name and comes right back. She uses the n-word on blacks who criticise her, calls people "dirty Jews" and other anti-semitic racial slurs. Slurs against Hispanics. Calls women in the case "sluts" and "whores" that God will punish. I won't repeat Kezzy-Jo's greatest hits here out of respect for you.

    I don't see any posts here with that language, but is this the first you have heard about this behavior from Kezzy-Jo? You seem very well informed Polly, so I'm guessing you know this already too.

    They even call her "KKK Kezzy"

    5. Ask yourself Polly which makes more logical sense? The online Darin Routier fanclub is "stalking" and "threatning" Kezzy-Jo so much that she needs a new alias to throw off the scent (even though EVERYBODY still knows its the same person).......?

    Or, KKK Kezzy gets her accounts deleted every time she calls detective Wadell a "dirty Jew cop"???

    And by the way Polly, you can mark my word that Kezzy-Jo will write another 5000-word comment here to bury my comment here hoping nobody will read it. I bet you a dollar.

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    JustinCase976 

    6 weeks ago

    Cc, I said that David Waddell lied; I said nothing about the perjury of anyone else, although it wouldn't surprise me. If you want proof of Waddell's lie, you need two things: a picture of the layout of the Routier's first floor, and a recording of the 911 call. Now, look at the layout and note the location of the Roman room, where the children were attacked, and see where Devon was positioned. Darin was attempting to perform CPR on Devon, so we know he is in that room, as well. At 3 minutes and 28 seconds into the call, Darlie speaks directly to Darin. "Darin, is he dead?" Darin's reply cannot be heard so its likely his response was non verbal, a nod, but Darin is in the room and Darlie is speaking to him. She immediately becomes even more hysterical, screaming, "Oh my GOD!" At 3:39 into the call, Waddell enters the house and Darin and Darlie both start screaming at him. Darin yells "Look for a rag!" and Darlie screams "They killed our babies!" But wait...didn't Waddell testify that he saw Darin coming out of the front door, met him in the yard, gun drawn, demanded he identify himself, and then followed him into the house? Look again at that first floor layout and tell me how Darin got from the back end of the Roman room, down the hall, past the stairs, past the living room, out the front door and into the yard to meet Waddell by the fountain, have this exchange with him, and then come inside with Waddell...in the span of 10 seconds? Darin was still in the house when Waddell first arrived, and Bill Gorsuch's testimony actually backs that up. If you read it, he says on direct examination that he hadn't been asleep long when he heard a noise that disturbed his sleep, but he did not come fully awake. A short while later, he was fully wakened by Darin yelling. He looked out the window and saw Darin BY THE SIDEWALK with a police officer. He also stated he never actually saw the officer get out of the car. He looked at his alarm clock and the time was 2:40. He then saw Darin go inside with Waddell. Gorsuch reiterated the time of 2:40 upon cross examination and was adamant that his clocks are set for actual, precise time, and not several minutes fast as some people are prone to do. By 2:40, Darlie was already off the phone with 911. Waddell was in the house by 2:34. As for why he's never been charged with perjury, maybe its because his superiors assured him he'd be just fine if he stuck to the script and hung in there until his transfer to Plano came through a few weeks later. Perhaps Waddell did see a man coming out the front door? Perhaps in the time it took him to park, exit the vehicle, draw his gun and walk up to the house, he lost sight of him? Waddell's entire testimony was about damage control and saving face for the department. I don't put much stock in conspiracy theories, but this Texas we're talking about. I don't fabricate stories, I analyze facts.

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    Jo Douglas 

    6 weeks ago from Canada

    Cc, You are fully aware they lied, so why even bring this up. Darins own affidavit proved he lied through his teeth, the 911 call proves he lied about everything. I don't understand what exactly you are asking for? The proof is all there even though Darin tried to manipulate everyone into believing his lies.

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    Jo Douglas 

    6 weeks ago from Canada

    Cc, Ask yourself the same question? The police search found cocaine in Darins room, he wasn't charged, he was caught lying on the stand and wasn't charged, he did that affidavit along with Darlie Kee and neither were charged, Darin lied about not meeting Waddell out front, he lied about the second cpr he did on Devon, he lied about the table falling on Devon, he lied about Waddell letting the intruder get away, Darins entire statement was a complete lie and that has been proven without any doubt. SO WHY DONT YOU TELL US HOW DARIN GOT AWAY WITH IT?

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    Cc 

    6 weeks ago

    JustinCase. If these people lied during testimony and you can prove it why haven’t they been charged and convicted. Sounds like maybe your just making up your own story just like so many other people.

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    Jo Douglas 

    6 weeks ago from Canada

    PART 2

    OFFICER WADDELL THEN DESCRIBES HOW THEY WALKED INTO THE HOUSE AND HE SEES DAMON ALIVE MOVING ON THE FLOOR. HE DESCRIBES SEEING DEVON AS ALREADY BEEN DECEASED. HE THEN SAYS DARIN IMMEDIATELY RUSHES PAST DAMON AND HE GOES BACK TO DEVON AND HE BEGINS THIS SECOND HORRIFIC CPR ON HIM. THIS IS ALMOST 4 MINUTES AFTER HE STOPPED THAT FIRST CPR HE CLAIMED TO HAVE DONE ON HIM. TO THIS DAY DARIN HAS DENIED DOING THAT SECOND CPR ON DEVON.

    OFFICER WADDELL IS HEARD ON THE 911 CALL TALKING TO DARLIE AND SHE IS DIRECTING HIM TO THE KITCHEN. THE SECOND THEIR BACKS ARE TURNED DARIN FLEES THE HOME AGAIN. OFFICER WADDELL SAYS IN HIS INTERVIEW HE BELIEVED DARIN WENT TO KARENS FOR HELP, BUT KNOW FOR A FACT THAT IS NOT WHERE DARIN WENT. WE KNOW FOR A FACT BY KARENS OWN TESTIMONY, AND THE 911 CALL SHE NEVER APPEARED AT THAT HOME UNTIL AFTER 2:40AM WHEN DARLIE WAS OFF THE PHONE WITH 911.

    MR. GORSUCH DESCRIBES IN DETAIL HOW HE SAW DARIN RUN OVER TO KARENS AFTER THE POLICE AND MEDICS WERE ALREADY THERE. DARIN PUT ON THIS HORRIFIC SHOW OF DESPERATION BY SCREAMING AND YELLING HE NEEDED HELP FOR HIS FAMILY. HE KNEW FOR A FACT MEDICS WERE ALREADY ATTENDING TO FAMILY MEMBERS.

    DARIN DELIBERATELY TRIED TO CONFUSE THE TIMELINE OF WHEN HE WENT TO KARENS. HE DELIBERATELY TRIED TO MAKE IT APPEAR HE WENT TO KARENS WHEN HE LEFT THAT HOUSE AT 2:34AM RIGHT AFTER WADDELL ARRIVED. KAREN HERSELF EVEN QUESTIONED DARINS SUSPICIOUS BEHAVIOR WHEN HE ARRIVED AT HER HOME.

    DARIN KNEW FOR A FACT THAT OFFICER WADDELL HAD TOLD HIM TO GO TO A NEIGHBORS JUST TO GET HIM OFF THE SCENE. HE WAS TOLD TO LEAVE THE HOME AND NOT ENTER AGAIN, BUT DARIN WENT OVER GOT KAREN AND TERRY AND HE INTENIONALLY CAME BACK WITH TERRY AND HE ENTERED THE HOME THROUGH THE FRONT DOOR QUICKLY GOING INTO THE DINING ROOM BEFORE ANYONE SAW HIM.

    TERRY REMAINED AT THE FRONT DOOR UNTIL KAREN ARRIVED. KAREN BEGAN TO ENTER THE HOME BUT WAS STOPPED BY OFFICER WADDELL AS HE WAS COMING DOWN THE STAIRS. HE TOLD KAREN EVERYTHING WAS UNDER CONTROL . MR. GORSUCH DESCRIBED HOW TERRY AND KAREN WERE ESCORTED FROM THE HOUSE, BUT DARIN REMAINED INSIDE.

    DARIN LATER STATED THAT HE WAS DETERMINED TO GET BACK INTO THAT HOUSE TO GO THROUGH ALL THE EVIDENCE. HE THEN CHANGED THAT STATEMENT TO SAY HE WENT BACK INTO THE HOME WHILE WAITING TO HEAR WHERE THEY WERE TAKING DARLIE

    OFFICERS STATED HOW SUSPICIOUS IT WAS THAT DARIN JUST SAT OUTSIDE THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE FOR LONGEST TIME.

    TO THIS DAY DARIN HAS NEVER ADMITTED THAT HIS FIRST PHONE CALL WAS TO HIS SISTER IN LAW DANA. HE CALLED HER TO ASK HER TO CONTACT HIS EMPLOYEE BARBARA JOVELL TO HAVE HER COME OVER AND MAKE A STATEMENT TO THE POLICE REGARDING A SUSPICIOUS BLACK CAR.

    THE TRUTH BEHIND THE BLACK CAR.

    THE TRUTH ABOUT THE BLACK CAR AND THE PREMEDITATED CRIME DARIN HAD BEEN SETTING UP DIDNT SURFACE UNTIL SIX YEARS AFTER DARLIE WAS CONVICTED.

    BOTH DARLIE KEE AND DARIN WROTE AN AFFIDAVIT ABOUT THEIR KNOWLEDGE OF DARINS PLANS TO ROB HIS OWN HOME. DARIN TRIED TO MAKE IT APPEAR THAT HE HAD BEEN SEARCHING FOR SOMEONE TO ROB HIS HOME SO THIS WOULD MAKE IT APPEAR THAT A STRANGER HAD HEARD THE RUMORS AND DECIDED TO ROB HIS HOME. THIS IS NOT THE TRUTH ABOUT DARINS TRUE INTENT.

    DARIN DIDNT GO TO STRANGERS ASKING IF THEY KNEW SOMEONE WHO WOULD ROB HIS HOME. DARIN HAD NO INTENTIONS EVER OF HIRING ANYONE TO ROB HIS HOME. HE WENT TO A FEW FAMILY MEMBERS AND CLOSE FRIENDS TELLING THEM HE WANTED TO ROB HIS OWN HOUSE AND COLLECT THE INSURANCE. DARIN PLANNED ON REMOVING THE VALUABLE ITEMS FROM HIS HOME AND STORING THEM UNTIL HE WAS ABLE TO COLLECT ON HIS INSURANCE CLAIM.

    DARIN BEGAN STAGING THIS WEEKS IN ADVANCE. HE MADE CHANGES TO HIS INSURANCE POLICY AND BEGAN STAGING THE HOME TO MAKE IT APPEAR SOMEONE WAS STALKING HIS HOUSE SCOPING IT OUT FOR A POSSIBLE ROBBERY.

    DARIN HAD GONE TO HIS LONG TIME EMPLOYEE TO ASK HER TO HIM STAGE THE SCENE. HE HAD INVOLVED HER IN ANOTHER FRAUD INSURANCE CRIME IN 1993 WHEN HE STOLE HIS OWN JAG CAR AND LEFT TOWN. HE THEN CALLED BARBARA JOVELL TO HAVE HER REPORT THE CAR STOLEN. DARIN WAS PAID OUT ON THIS CRIME.

    WEEKS PRIOR TO THE ATTACK BARBARA JOVELL HAD A FRIEND OF HERS GO BY THE HOME TO MAKE IT APPEAR THAT SOMEONE WAS WATCHING OR SCOPING OUT THE HOUSE. BARBARA JOVELL GAVE A FALSE POLICE STATEMENT AND FALSE COURT TESTIMONY REGARDING THIS BLACK CAR. TO THIS DAY SHE HAS NEVER CONTACTED THE POLICE TO CONFESS TO HER INVOLVEMENT IN THE STAGING OF THIS BLACK CAR.

    DARIN THEN WENT TO NEIGHBORS TELLING THEM THAT A BLACK CAR HAD BEEN SEEN STALKING HIS HOME. AT ONE POINT KAREN NEAL CAME HOME TO FIND THIS CAR SITTING PARKED IN FRONT OF HER HOME APPEARING TO WATCH THE ROUTIER HOUSE. WHEN SHE TRIED TO APPROACH THE CAR IT SPED AWAY.

    EVEN THOUGH DARIN WAS BROKE HE HAD HIRED HIS EMPLOYEES MOTHER TO COME INTO THE HOME TO HELP DARLIE WITH THE HOUSE AND KIDS. THIS WAS ALL PART OF THE STAGING. ON THE SECOND DAY JOVELLS MOTHER WAS THERE SHE HAD WITNESSED A BLACK CAR IN THE BACK ALLEY. THEY MAN WAS OUT OF HIS CAR AND HE WAS LOOKING THROUGH THE WINDOWS TO THE GARAGE. SHE HAD MADE A POINT OF TELLING AND SHOWING DARLIE THIS PERSON IN THE ALLEY.

    THIS SUSPICIOUS BEHAVIOR MADE ME REALIZE THAT THE PLANS DARIN WAS MAKING TO ROB HIS HOME WAS ABOUT TO HAPPEN IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

    TO FURTHER CONFIRM MY SUSPICIONS I LEARNED OF MANY OTHER SIGHTENINGS BY DARIN AND HIS EMPLOYEE THE DAY BEFORE THE ATTACK.

    DARIN DESCRIBES HOW HE COMES HOME AND AS HE IS ARRIVING AT THE HOUSE THIS SUSPICIOUS BLACK CAR SPEEDS PAST HIS HOME. HE SAYS HIS BOYS ARE STILL OUTSIDE PLAYING ALONE, BUT HE DOES FEEL CONCERNED ENOUGH ABOUT THEIR SAFETY TO CALL THEM INTO THE HOUSE, OR REMAIN OUTSIDE TO SUPERVISE THEM.

    BARBARA JOVELL ASLO MADE THE CLAIM THAT WHILE SHE WAS LEAVING THE HOME THIS BLACK CAR SPED PAST HER AND HER MOTHER AT A HIGH RATE OF SPEED, YET BOTH DARIN AND JOVELL ADMITTED THEY NEVER WARNED DARLIE OF THIS POTENTIAL DANGER.

    WHEN DARIN DID THAT INTERVIEW IN MAY OF 2018 AND COMPLETELY LIED TO THE WORLD ABOUT HOW HE HAD DRIVEN AROUND FOR WEEKS LOOKING FOR THIS BLACK CAR I WAS FURIOUS. HOW COULD ANY TV STATION DO A DOCUMENTARY ON A SO CALLED TRUE STORY WITHOUT EVEN SEARCHING OUT THE FACTS?

    I NOW HAD NO DOUBT ABOUT WHAT DARIN HAD DONE HERE. I ALREADY KNEW IT WAS POSSIBLE FOR DARIN TO HAVE GOTTEN TO AND FROM THAT UTILITY ROOM WITHOUT DARLIE EVER SEEING HIM. I KNEW HE HAD THE OPPORTUNTIY AND MOTIVE TO DO THIS CRIME. ONCE I REALIZED THAT DARIN WAS CAPABLE OF USING HIS OWN SONS DEAD BODY TO TRICK AND DECIEVE DARLIE AND POLICE INTO BELIEVING HE WAS DOING EVERYTHING IN HIS POWER TO TRY AND HELP HIS FAMILY.

    THE LIES WITH DARIN JUST CONTINUED THROUGH THE MONTHS AND YEARS AFTER THE MURDERS.

    DARIN FIRST CLAIMED HE NEVER TRIED TO SAVE DAMON BECAUSE HE HAD NO PULSE. THEN HE CHANGED THAT STORY AFTER PEOPLE REALIZED THAT THE REASON YOU OFFER CPR IS BECSAUSE THE VICTIM WASNT BREATHING, HE THEN CLAIMED HIS TRAINING TAUGHT HIM NOT TO TURN HIM OVER. ONCE THEY REALIZED DARIN NEVER APPLIED PRESSURE TO DAMON OR EVEN INSTRUCTED ANYONE ELSE TO HE CHANGED HIS STORY AGAIN BY CLAIMING HE DIDNT KNOW DAMON WAS HURT. I COULD NOT WRAP MY HEAD AROUND HOW THE POLICE WERE ABLE TO JUST DISMISS ALL THIS EVIDENCE AGAINST DARIN?

    DARIN LIED ABOUT THE GLASS TABLE FALLING ON DEVON, YET THE POLICE NEVER QUESTIONED OR CONFRONTED DARIN ABOUT THIS LIE HE TOLD. DARIN EVEN COMMITTED PERJURY BY GOING TO DETAIL WITH DOUG MULDER ABOUT THIS FALLEN TABLE AND FLOWER ARRANGEMENT, YET HE WAS NEVER CHARGED. INSTEAD DOUG MULDER IS HEARD TRYING TO COAX DARIN INTO CHANGING HIS TESTIMONY.

    DARIN WAS CONFRONTED AS TO WHY HE NEVER TRIED TO SAVE DARLIE. DARIN CLAIMED HE DIDNT KNOW DARLIE WAS CUT UNTIL HE CAME BACK FROM KARENS, THAT WAS AT 2:40AM, TEN MINUTES AFTER THE ATTACK, YET HE WAS HEARD BY MR GORSUCH AND WADDELL SCREAMING THAT SOMEONE STABBED HIS WIFE AND KIDS. THIS WAS AT 2:33:45AM, ALMOST 6 MINUTES BEFORE HE WENT TO KARENS.

    THE SOCK

    THE STORY THE PROSECUTION GAVE AS TO HOW AND WHY THE SOCK WAS IN THE ALLEY WAS A COMPLETE JOKE. IT MADE NO SENSE WHAT SO EVER. EVERYONE KNEW DARIN HAD LEFT THAT HOUSE AT 2:34AM AND WAS NEVER CONFRONTED AS TO WHERE HE WENT AT THAT TIME. IT WAS OBVIOUS HE HAD SNUCK OUT THROUGH THE SLIDING DOORS LEADING

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    Jo Douglas 

    6 weeks ago from Canada

    WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE TO HAVE THE POLICE FINALLY INVESTIGATE DARIN?

    Motives for Darin Routier to murder his family.

    A 500,000 dollar life insurance policy on Darlie and 10,000 on Devon and Damon. The pollicy on Darlie was for 250,000, but Darin knew he had a clause on her policy that would have paid him double if she had died on June 6th.

    Darlie asked Darin for a seperation just hours before the attack. Darin was already broke so he was looking not only losing his lifestyle and home, but now he was looking at supporting 4 people on top of his already crumbling financial situation.

    TIMELINE

    ATTACK ON DEVON STARTS AT 2:25AM

    ACCORDING TO DOCTORS DEVON COULD HAVE LIVED UP TO 5 MINUTES. DARLIE SCREAMED OUT AT 39 SECONDS DEVON IS DEAD, OH MY GOD DEVON IS DEAD.

    ATTACK ON DAMON STARTS AT 2:26AM

    DOCTORS ESTIMATED DAMON COULD HAVE LIVED UP TO 9 MINUTES

    DAMON DIED AT APPROXIMATELY 2:40AM RIGHT AFTER THE MEDICS ENTERED THE HOME.

    THIS TIMELINE SHOWS THAT THE ATTACK WENT ON WITH THE VICTIMS FOR AT LEAST 5 MINUTES BEFORE DARIN APPEARED ON THE SCENE.

    ON JUNE 6TH DARIN TOLD THE ROWLETTE POLICE DEPARTEMENT HE WAS WOKEN BY DARLIE SCREAMING INTO THE PHONE WITH 911. I PERSONALLY CALLED THAT POLICE DEPARTMENT TO CONFIRM THIS DETAIL YEARS AGO.

    BY JUNE 8TH DARIN HAD WRITTEN A POLICE STATEMENT SAYING HE HEARD A NOISE AND THEN HEARD DARLIE SCREAM OUT. THERE WAS NO MENTION WHAT SO EVER ABOUT BEING WOKEN BY THE SOUND OF GLASS BREAKING.

    SOME OF US BEGAN TO QUESTION THIS PART OF DARINS STORY. DARIN THEN DID AN INTERVIEW WHERE HE GAVE SPECIFIC DETAILS OF HOW HE WAS WOKEN BY THE SOUND OF LIGHT GLASS BREAKING, HE MADE SURE TO ADD " YOU KNOW, A FAR AWAY SOUND, YOU KNOW NOT CLOSE" HE MADE SURE THAT IT WAS UNDERSTOOD THAT HE WAS NOT RIGHT THERE WHEN THE GLASS BROKE. WE WANTED TO KNOW HOW IT WAS POSSIBLE FOR DARIN TO HAVE EVEN HEARD THE SOUND OF LIGHT GLASS BREAKING, LET ALONE BE WOKEN BY THAT SOUND OVER THE SOUND OF DARLIE'S DOG BARKING. EVEN WITHOUT THE DOG BARKING IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IMPOSSIBLE FOR DARIN TO HAVE BEEN WOKEN BY THE SOUND OF LIGHT GLASS BREAKING. EACH TIME DARIN WAS CAUGHT AND CONFRONTED IN A LIE HIS STORY CHANGED.

    ON THE LAST DEFENCE IN MAY OF 2018 DARIN ONCE AGAIN CHANGED HIS STORY. DARIN CAME RIGHT OUT AND SAID HE NEVER HEARD A SOUND FROM ANYONE UNTIL HE HEARD DARLIE SCREAMING. HE KNEW THE STORY ABOUT HEARING THE GLASS BREAKING WASN'T CREDIBLE SO HE WENT BACK TO HIS ORIGINAL STORY HE TOLD THE POLICE ON JUNE 6TH. DARIN HAS BEEN CHANGING HIS STORY OVER AND OVER FOR THE PAST 22 YEARS. THERE IS ONLY ONE EXPLANATION FOR THAT, HE HAS SOMETHING TO HIDE.

    MOVING ON THROUGH HIS MANY DIFFERENT ACCOUNTS OF WHAT HE CLAIMS HAPPENED.

    DARIN WAS LATER QUESTIONED ABOUT WHY THE DOG WASNT HEARD BARKING WHEN HE FIRST EMERGED ON THE SCENE. DARIN ACTUALLY HAD THE NERVE TO TRY AND TRICK AND DECIEVE PEOPLE INTO BELIEVING THAT THE REASON THE DOG DIDNT BARK WAS BECAUSE HE KNEW THE INTRUDER.

    SEVERAL DIFFERENT WITNESSES INCLUDING DARLIE HERSELF SAID HER DOG BARKED AT EVERYTHING AND EVERY ONE INCLUDING FAMILY MEMBERS. AGAIN DARIN WAS INTENTIONALLY POINTING THE FINGER DIRECTLY AT DARLIE.

    DARIN THEN SAYS DARLIE IS AT THE FOOT OF THE STAIRS WHEN HE EMERGES FROM HIS ROOM. WE KNOW BY THE BLOOD EVIDENCE THIS IS NOT TRUE. THERE IS NO BLOOD PUDDLE FROM DARLIE NEAR THE LANDING OF THE STAIRS WHERE HE CLAIMS SHE HAD BEEN STANDING AND SCREAMIING. DARLIE HAS NEVER SAID THE WORDS "I SAW DARIN COME OUT OF HIS ROOM" SHE HAS STATED SHE SAW HIM COMING DOWN THE STAIRS.

    DARIN DID ANOTHER INTERVIEW LATER WHERE HE CLAIMS THAT HE CAME DOWN AND THEY LOOKED AT EACH OTHER IN THIS LONG LOVING GAZE AND THEN HE TOLD HER TO GO AND DIAL 911. I COULDNT BELIEVE THE POLICE WERE ACTUALLY BELIEVING THIS CRAP. IT WAS LIKE SOMETHING OUT OF A HORROR MOVIE. A CHILD COULD FIGURED OUT THAT THIS NEVER HAPPENED.

    EVEN THOUGH DARLIE CLAIMED DARIN WAS THERE BEFORE SHE DIALED 911 WE KNOW FOR A FACT BY THE 911 CALL DARIN DIDNT APPEAR ON THOSE STAIRS UNTIL 15 SECONDS INTO THAT 911 CALL. SHE IS HEARD TELLING DARIN TO HURRY, THEN SHE PULLS THE RECIEVER AWAY FROM HER MOUTH TO CONTINUE SAYING SOME THING ELSE TO DARIN.

    IN DARINS POLICE STATEMENT HE ADMITS HE LOOKS UP AND HE SEES SHE IS ON THE PHONE WHEN HE RUNS OVER TO DEVON.

    THE FIRST TIME DARIN IS WITH DEVON IS AT 2:30:15, FIFTEEN SECONDS INTO THE CALL. HE DESCRIBES HOW HE IMMEDIATELY STARTS TO DO CPR ON DEVON AT THAT TIME. HE GOES INTO DETAIL OF HOW HE BLOWS IN HIS MOUTH THEN INTO HIS CHEST. HE THEN ANNOUNCES TO DARLIE DEVON IS DEAD. DARLIE SCREAMS OUT AT 39 SECONDS INTO THE 911 CALL DEVON IS DEAD OH MY GOD HE IS DEAD.

    DARIN THEN CLAIMS AS POLICE ARE COMIING IN THE FRONT DOOR HE IMMEDIATELY RUNS UPSTAIRS TO PUT PANTS ON BECAUSE HE DOESNT WANT THEM TO SEE HIM WITH NO PANTS.

    WE KNOW FOR A FACT THIS IS NOT TRUE. WE KNOW BY OTHER WITNESSES AND THE 911 CALL DARIN RAN UPSTAIRS JUST AS THE FIRST OFFICER PULLED UP TO THE HOUSE. WE ALSO KNOW FOR A FACT DARIN ALREADY HAD HIS PANTS ON BEFORE HE WENT BACK UPSTAIRS AS OFFICER WADDELL PULLED UP. BOTH DARLIE AND OFFICER WADDELL STATED THIS IN THEIR STATEMENTS AND TESTIMONY IN COURT.

    DARIN LATER CHANGED HIS STORY WHILE TESTIFYING IN COURT. HE ADMITS THAT HE ALREADY HAD HIS PANTS ON BEFORE HE WENT BACK UP STAIRS, BUT HE WAS NEVER CONFRONTED ABOUT THE TRUE REASON HE STOPPED THE CPR ON DEVON TO GO UPSTAIRS BEFORE POLICE ENTERED THE HOME

    DARIN THEN CLAIMS THAT HE HAD RUSHED OUT OF THE HOUSE TO GO OVER TO KARENS TO GET HELP FOR HIS BOYS. WE KNOW FOR A FACT BY THE 911 CALL DARIN DID NOT LEAVE THE HOUSE AS WADDELL PULLED UP TO GO OVER TO KARENS. HE WAS SEEN BY A WITNESS MEETING WADDELL IN THE FRONT YARD AND THEM BOTH TURNING AROUND TOGETHER TO GO BACK INTO THE HOUSE. WADDELL ALSO GAVE THIS EXACT TESTIMONY. TO THIS DAY DARIN HAS DENIED MEETING WADDELL IN THE FRONT YARD.

    OFFICER WADDELL ENTERED THE HOUSE AT 2:33:45 ALMOST 4 MINUTES AFTER DARIN STOPPED THE FIRST CPR ON DEVON.

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    Jo Douglas 

    6 weeks ago from Canada

    Polly, I did post this on my face book account under the group Gina started but I wanted to share some of my thoughts and findings. Instead of people slandering my profiles, why don't they bring evidence to try and debunk my claims against Darin? They cant, that is why they chose to lie and use fake profiles claiming its me making up those false stories.

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    Jo Douglas 

    6 weeks ago from Canada

    Polly, One thing we know for sure is all those names that were mentioned to you about fake profiles just goes to prove my point. They took the time to stalk search and threaten for years just to try and cover up the truth about Darin. If you read those profiles you will see the comments never changed, the names and theory never changed. Those profiles were stalked, threatened and bullied for years every time the truth was told about Darin. This started many years ago and it still continues now. They think if they discredit me to you, you wont post my comments on information I have uncovered about Darin.

    This is your article and I respect what you chose to post. This is just another sneaky way for them to try and stop the truth from coming out.

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    Jo Douglas 

    6 weeks ago from Canada

    Polly, thank you for pointing that out. I have always been honest with you about my comments and why the name changes. When someone seeks out your profile and they threaten with a weapon and to contact what they believe is your family and job you know they are desperate to keep the truth from being told here. Even though there has been different names it doesn't change the fact that the message is the same. Darin was never investigated and decided to search out people for answers. Its obvious I am getting a little closer to the truth, so they decided to use threats and slander to try and keep me silent. I have always been open and honest with you about everything I have said.

    Thank you for pointing out the truth about them using fake profiles to try and slander me. This has gone on here on your article for months. They went from two cpr claiming I said 11, they went from an affair with Dana to one with Karen. It is pathetic to see how desperate they are to try and shut me up.

    They have even used that fake profile to claim I was slandering Waddell. At first I did believe he lied, but then I was able to find out the truth and had since retracted my comments about his testimony. They didn't bother to research that though, they just continued to try and slander me to shut me up. I am not going away. I know what Darin did.

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    Jo Douglas 

    6 weeks ago from Canada

    Angie For your information I have never denied using other profile names, the same as you using different profiles to slander me. I have been stalked and threatened by Bryan, Kee, Darin and other family members for years. Bryan searched out what he thought was my family members and threatened them, he threatened what he thought was my job, he even brought up a gun. I am not the only person out here who has been forced to use other profile names to try and get the truth out there about Darin. This isn't about me or any of the profiles I have used to protect myself from Kee, Darin, Bryan Everton wood. All of this took place before Bryans own son slaughtered his girlfriends child. YOU HAVE THE BALLS TO WONDER WHY SO MANY PEOPLE FEAR BRYAN, KEE, DARIN AND EVERTON WOOD. Using old profile names trying to slander and discredit people is not going to stop the truth from coming out about Darin. So just stop already and try and focus on what this article is about.

    You have even mocked and slandered a women who died of cancer. Forbes articles were closed out, that account was closed out. Don't think for one minute that Polly doesn't know what has been going on here. I have had no reason to keep anything from her, so you are just making a fool of yourself

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    Angie 

    6 weeks ago

    Right on Miss Pollyannalana!!!

    You go girl!

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    frenchhorngirl 

    6 weeks ago

    Not sure if this has been mentioned. In the time line, the boys names are reversed..

    “Damon Routier: Darlie and Darin's five-year-old son. Was found DOA.

    Devon Routier: Darlie and Darin's six-year-old son. Died on the way to the hospital.”

    Devon was DOA. Damon was still alive, and died in the ambulance.

    Just sayin’....

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    Pollyannalana 

    6 weeks ago from US

    No Angie - Maybe I was the first to know.

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    JustinCase976 

    6 weeks ago

    Here you go Polly; a quick who's who:

    Bryan St. John: Quite possibly Darlie's number one hater and the most vocal about his belief in her guilt. Search him on YouTube, it will explain it all.

    Everton (Perverton) Wood: Another well-known Darlie naysayer who is very liberal with his anti-Darlie comments

    Barbara "Basia" Jovell: A former friend of Darlie's and employee of Darin. Testified for the state about Darlie's supposed post partum depression and suicidal thoughts. Assumed by many to have been having an affair with Darin. In her fantasies, maybe...

    Karen Neal: Neighbor across the street who also happened to be a nurse. Darlie can be heard screaming for her on the 911 call. Theorized by some as yet another woman Darin was having an affair with. From interviews I've seen with her, I doubt she would have fooled around with Darin if he were the last man on earth.

    Jodi Cotner: An Emergency Room nurse from Baylor Dallas that was working on June 6th when Darlie was brought in. Testified for the state at trial. An earlier comment suggested that she, too, was sleeping with Darin, although to my knowledge he never even met her. That Darin sure does get around.

    Stephen Cooper: Lead counsel of Darlie's appellate team. Has been working on the case pro bono for the last 18 years. Is 100% convinced of Darlie's innocence.

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    Angie 

    6 weeks ago

    Omg I am sorry but you seem to be the last to know Pollyannalana. God Bless your heart, and this is a great article!

    But It is common knowledge that Kezzy, Mforbes, Jo Douglas, Kirk Douglas, shy kes, crimewatching, Wrong con, Jean Jenkins etc. are all the same person.

    Want proof? Goto Jackie Lynnley's hubpage about the book Dateline Purgatory, and look at the comments. You will see "Mforbes" saying the EXACT same things as "Jo Douglas". You will also be able to see how "Mforbes" comments with the same frequency (just about 4-5 times a week). Look at the comments on this page from about 2 years ago. You will see that "Kezzy" is saying exactly the same thing as "Jo Douglas" is today. You will also find "Mforbes" right here about a year ago. You can find her facebook and youtube comments under the same names.

    JustinCase is 100% correct on saying she is the Bryan st John on the other side of the spectrum.

    She goes on and on with "Darin did this" and "Darin did that." And has done so for years on just about every Darlie site out there.

    Anytime you see a person talking about multiple Cpr attempts, Cyndaquil drugs, dogs barking or not barking, Darin being a Satanist, the chair in the living room being turned over, Darin having an affair with the sister Dana or anyone else 4 that matter, the Leeza show, using cocaine or crystal meth, Darlie Kee being a bad mother, Doug Mulder being the worst lawyer ever, or OBSESSING over Bryan st John or Sclemmons, or talks about some "Fern" tree for no obvious reason......you should know it is the same ONE person.

    Also whenever you see anyone call somebody else a "maggot" or claims to talk to "insiders" like Wadell, Cooper, media people, or family members etc..... this is a dead giveaway that its Kezzy aka "Jo Douglas"

    I don't know WHY she or anybody does something like this but I have a few theories.

    God Bless. I hope Darlie is vindicated soon and can be reunited with her family.

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    Joan Thermoset 

    6 weeks ago

    JustinCase,

    I am starting to agree with you. Jo Douglas is posing as MForbes, Kezzy, Shy Kes, and like 9 other profiles. ALL FAKE. It must be Bryan St John spreading many lies and falsehoods about the evidence in this case.

    Pollyannalana, have you noticed how Jo Douglas makes comments on almost a daily basis and picks fights with everybody? This HAS GOT TO BE Bryan St John or Sclemmons or Perverton Wood. Jo is messing up this web page and stirring up trouble with his/her personal attacks against those of us who KNOW that Darlie is innocent!

    Darin did kill those boys Jo Douglas aka Bryan St John aka Kezzy aka MForbes, aka Shy Kes aka etc...... You will not stop the truth from being told, no matter how many fake profiles you make.

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    Jo Douglas 

    6 weeks ago from Canada

    Kezzy Kesler You are really pathetic, evil doesn't even describe what you really are. I think people have realized now that Darin and Kee are behind the evil posts on Polly's article. Your comment saying fern will stand tall? Really? you claim your not mocking a women who died of cancer? Do you really think we haven't figured out your ip address?

    You continue to feed this site with lies and distractions trying to lead everything away from Darin. We know Darlie didn't kill those boys, and we know there was no intruder. Barbara Jovell has already came clean about setting up that black car, yet Darin had the balls to claim he spent two weeks looking for that black car. He has no shame he make me sick. He knew him and Barbara set that car up as part of the staging for him to rob his own home. This was all about Darin collecting the insurance.

    The only ones who have a hatred for Waddell and continue to lie about him is Darin and Kee. Pathetic. She chose to protect that monster rather than support her own daughter. No shame for either one of them

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    Pollyannalana 

    6 weeks ago from US

    Yes Kezzy, thx, I did check it out.

    Pardon me for being so out of it sometimes but when more than one person goes by the same name and several at that, then I have to be suspicious and wonder what is what and frankly I don't have time for the games. I used to talk to another Kezzy Kesler, we even emailed for awhile but apparently you are not that person so why are you going by that name?

    I don't recall deleting anything recently but if I did there was a very good reason or perhaps HP deleted it before I even saw it, it has happened but there would be good reason or someone reported you for a comment. I just cannot say.

    I am not playing favorites for I am not that childish. I don't know many of these people some of you argue around about or happenings I am unaware of or comment to each other. I just leave you all to it. I have enough trouble keeping up with what I know.

    It has been a long time since I read that book so perhaps I have the facts wrong, would not surprise me. I plan to read it again as soon as I can, but none of that really matters unless someone with some power does something with any of these facts.

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    JustinCase976 

    6 weeks ago

    Jo Douglas (aka Shy, Kezzy, M Forbes and who knows how many others) what, exactly, is ridiculous? The eyewitnesses who saw these men? The statements made by the men who did this and told to other people? Please, enlighten me on what is so ridiculous. You said in your own article that Darin is not a stupid man, so please explain to me how he thought he was going to get away with killing his wife and children for insurance money less than a week after being turned down for a $5000 loan? You accuse everyone of having a fake profile, but you're the one on here using half a dozen different profiles to comment (don't even deny it, I can tell they are all you from the wording, grammar, and syntax). You are the Bryan St. John of the opposite end of the spectrum. I'm not a friend or family member of Kee or Darin, I'm simply someone who read a book about this case and got an idea that wouldn't let go of me. I ordered open records, made phone calls, studied the transcripts, the crime scene photos, and listened to the 911 call no less than 500 times. Waddell lied on the witness stand and I can prove it. I know the identities of the two men who broke into the house that night. The only thing I can't say for certain is whether or not they were connected to the insurance scam Darin was looking to pull off, but no way did Darin purposely try to have his family killed.

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    Jo Douglas 

    6 weeks ago from Canada

    JustinCase976 , This is about the most ridiculous theory I have heard yet. You are so desperate to try and take the focus off of Darin your willing to post all kinds of lies. There has never been a post about Darin having an affair with Karen Neal. There has never been a post about Darin being involved satanic cult. You are just making crap up as you go along. It is obvious this fake profile is Darin and Kee trying desperately to discredit anyone who brings light to the evidence that proves Darin's guilt. Everyone knows Darlie Kee and Darin knew if they hired Mulder and didnt implicate Darin in the crime she was going to death row. Darlie Kee chose to protect Darin over her own daughters innocence. That wasnt a secret 22 years ago, and its no secret now. This whole case was built on a conspiracy. Had Kee done what a mother should have done, and Darin was investigated as he should have been, Darlie wouldnt be on death row. The overwhelming evidence the original lawyers found against Darin should have been shown to the jury. Darin will never be viewed as the victim. His last interview just confirmed what we all already knew about Darin. Twenty two years later Darin is still setting Darlie up and pointing the finger at her by claiming he signed that affidavit because he was basically forced to do it by her lawyers. He is perverted disgusting maggot.

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    JustinCase976 

    6 weeks ago

    Polly, I apologize for losing my temper; I was upset because my comment about David Waddell lying on the witness stand and the resulting cover up by police had been deleted. I feel like the people commenting on this thread are perpetuating a fantasy, but you are correct, they have every right to state their opinions. I do know the book you are referring to, and the theory of the two men breaking in stuck with me and I began doing my own research, submitting open record requests and requesting police reports (I'm kind of shocked that I seem to be the only person who thought to do this). You are mistaken about the men being caught for stealing the white truck. One of them, they guy who is now deceased, was arrested exactly one month to the day of the murders for carjacking a man at knife point. The other guy was arrested on unrelated charges several months later. These men were both in the same county jail at the same time. In late December, Guy #1 was found hanging in his cell in the jail...with his hands tied securely in front of him with a bed sheet. The Medical Examiner found this to be highly suspicious, but in the end, classified the man's death as suicide. The man who died had requested psychiatric help to deal with nightmares and flashbacks regarding one of his past crimes. I strongly suspect that the second guy killed him because he felt he was a loose end that needed to be tied up and silenced, and that leads me to believe that at least one of the jail employee's had a hand in it. I'm not trying to keep his identity a secret, I would shout it from the rooftops if I thought anyone would take me seriously. This is something that needs to be handled very delicately; this is a very evil person and he has never been charged in connection with the Rowlett murders. There is nothing but hearsay and circumstantial evidence at this point, and to be honest, I don't trust a living soul in the state of Texas. The police don't want to hear it, the DA doesn't want to hear it, the appellate judge doesn't want to hear it. I don't know who to go to with this information without solid proof. I'd love to get a DNA sample from him to compare to some of the untested evidence, those limb hairs from the sock, for example. The unidentified fingerprint may very well be his, and both of these men would have fingerprints on file since they were convicted of felonies. The FBI, the DA's office, and the Texas Department of Public Safety keep passing the buck as to which agency is responsible for uploading that print into IAFIS, but the defense team has their own experts that could privately compare the prints. If the living man's DNA does not turn out to be a match for the hairs from the sock, then that means they came from the dead man. That man's mother is still alive, and he has a brother and a sister that could be tested for mitochondrial DNA. As for Darin, I'm starting to feel like he may be one of the few people left that would actually do something about this, and that's if he actually believed me. I'm sure the family has had their share of total strangers contacting them claiming to know something, only for it to turn out to be a waste of time. I'd prefer to have something solid before making that contact. I know that you and others strongly suspect that Darin played a role in these murders, and while I respect that, I do not agree. My gut instinct tells me that if he had any involvement at all, it was peripheral and tangential, at best. When he started putting the word out that he was looking for people to stage a robbery while the family was on vacation, for insurance purposes, it's very possible that this fell upon the wrong set of ears and they decided to go check out the goods for themselves. I think they thought the Routiers were already gone and since Darin's Jag was not in the driveway, they assumed the house was empty. The rest is history. I have tried for four years to find information on any other stabbings involving young children that took place in Dallas County or the surrounding area in June of 1996, but came up empty. It's not that I think these men were the killers: I have a moral certainty of it.

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    Kezzy Kesler 

    7 weeks ago

    Wait just a minute. I would NEVER attack a person suffering from cancer Jo Douglas. When I was in the 4th grade I lost someone very close to me from cancer. Show me one single time where I did that! You are making things up out of thin air Jo!

    You and others have attacked me for telling the truth about Darin with your IP address nonsense. I have been fighting for Darlie for years so stop trying to confuse Polly with your slander of me.

    Stop trying to change the subject from Darin Jo Douglas. Nice try but it WONT WORK! Darin has to pay for what he did to those boys. If you want to help make her case stronger then please help. But cut out your attacks on me and others. We all want Darlie to go free because she is innocent. We are on the same team.

    Polly, I hope you had a chance to look at the links I sent you. God Bless!!

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    Pollyannalana 

    7 weeks ago from US

    JustinCase - No matter what anyone thinks of me, I am a fair, just person and I try to treat everyone who deserves it respectful. I have said nothing about satanists and have no idea what that is about, but if others want to then within reason I allow all opinions if they do not come in hate.

    I had an opinion at one time based on a book I read, that two men broke in and it was to make it look like a robbery and Darin had them do it of course. It was the white truck, stolen I believe and they were caught for that.

    I really do not understand why you would keep secret who this guy is. I don't believe Darin would hurt him unless he thinks he would get caught up in something.

    Single letters to the President would do nothing, that is why it needs to be a very powerful petition.

    I will check out your link. Thank you.

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    Jo Douglas 

    7 weeks ago from Canada

    Kezzy Kesler You are a despicable creep. How dare you mock a women who died of cancer. You make me sick. Evil doesn't even describe you. you are an evil bitter vengeful person with no shame at all. If your going to mock someone or steal someones profile, the least you can do is be honest about what your posting.

    Must be getting to you now that all this evidence is coming out about Darin.

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    JustinCase976 

    7 weeks ago

    You know what Polly, I used to have a lot of respect for you and I thought this was one of the best articles out there on this case and Darlie's innocence. I thought we were all on the same side but after seeing the kind of crap comments you choose to post I'm thoroughly disgusted. I'm trying to tell people THE TRUTH about what happened that night. There were two men in that house on June 6, 1996...AND I KNOW WHO THEY ARE. I know their names. I know where one is buried and I know where the other one, a recent parolee, is living right now. I'm gonna tell you right now that any of your commenters claiming that they "called Stephen Cooper and chatted about Darlie and her case" is full of shit. It's called CLIENT CONFIDENTIALITY and unless they're a member of the legal team, Steve Cooper isn't going to be discussing this, period. All of this nonsense about Darin being a Satanist and sleeping with Basia, Karen Neal, etc is just muddying the waters and in the long run will make it even harder for Darlie to prove her innocence. So, Darin decided to have Darlie killed for the life insurance money...less than 5 days after being turned down for a $5,000 loan? Yeah, OK. He may not be a genius but the man isn't stupid. Here's the facts: two men broke in. One had his own knife, the other grabbed one from the kitchen when he realized the house wasn't empty after all. These guys have admitted this to other people! During the first week of June, they stole a white truck and took a road trip from Wylie, heading for Dallas. (Guess where Rowlett is on the map?) Somewhere along the way, they broke into a house they believed was empty. (Darlie's car was in the street, Darin's Jag was broken down.) They broke in and it all went bad. There were young children, in the room, and a fight broke out. The kids woke up, saw the men's faces, and they stabbed them. This is what the living guy told his wife when they returned from their trip. He told her they "broke into a house that was supposed to be empty and fucked some people up." Oh, and guess what else? The two men in question fit the description of the two men that tried to break into Mary Rickels' house half a mile away around 2:00 am. They also match the description of the men Darlene Potter saw walking on Dalrock Road early in the morning hours of June 6th...and one of them was in his BARE FEET. Hmmm, wonder where his socks went? If they're not the killers, then pigs just sprouted wings. But it's OK, I know you're not going to post this comment and that's for the best, I don't want this guy to know anyone is looking at him for this crime. I would go straight to Darin with his name and address but I'm afraid he'll kill the SOB and then no one will ever be able to prove Darlie innocent.

    So, here's a link to the petition you were asking about: https://www.change.org/p/dallas-da-faith-johnson-r...

    You might want to note that this petition was signed by Bruce Davis, brother of Prosecutor Greg Davis, and check out what he had to say about his brother's track record of DP convictions, it's rather interesting. Good luck with writing to the president, I wrote him half a dozen times and keep getting the same canned response: that this is a matter for state and local government and to take it up with them. Anyway, I won't be commenting here again; I'll save it for my own article. Everybody posting on here is just feeding into drama but no one is interested in the truth if it doesn't fit what they believe. If there's something you want to say to me feel free to email me at secondstar2theright63@yahoo.com, if not, good luck.

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    Pollyannalana 

    7 weeks ago from US

    Kezzy, can you show me where to go to read about this? I mean she will be set free if they have proven this and I have several of you or those pretending to be you talk about one way or another but I need a link to go read all about it. THX

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